SHOCKING DEFENCE, WORRYING BUT PLENTY OF PASSION AND HEART

The team are obviously fully committed to playing for OGS, however we once again showed that we are not good enough at this level. WBA were poor and we were as bad, the odds are we will both go down with Fulham, which if that's so, then at least those two teams won't be the massive threat that a club the size of Sunderland would be in the Championship.

Correct the commitment and desire is there, but the quality and tactics are not in my opinion and the results show that.

You have to admit a big slice of luck is not going our way match after match. Football is sometimes like that I think we have been very unlucky on many occasions this season and Hull for example have been very lucky thats sometimes the difference between success and failure. There hasn't been too many occasions this season where our players haven't given their all during a game whether that be under Malky or Ole. At the moment we are under Ole and I believe we as loyal supporters should all get behind him and the team to give them the best opportunity of success rather than criticizing our managers tactics and our players quality and maybe that slice of luck will turn our way in the coming games

Loyalty to OGS, or any other manager for that matter is not the issue, by the way, it takes me at least 7 hours of travelling to get to every home game as a ST holder, so it's laughable to question loyalty, of me and more so Annis Luck, also has very little to do with it, once or twice yes, but the games we have lost or drawn all season have been down to the fact that as a team we are not good enough, under Malky or OGS. There is for me though one big positive and that is that I see in OGS a character and manager who is exciting and wants to play attacking football and given time, money and transfer windows he can build the best most talented squad we have ever seen at Cardiff

As highlighted above if Annis is not critical of Ole and the players there then I don't read English very well and nowhere have I questioned "yours" or anyone else's loyalty got that east end chip on your shoulder there mate Thought this was a place where all opinions were welcomed? as long as they don't conflict with god almighty's opinions eh? pmsl

I am allowed an opinion and at this moment in time Ole's tactics are not working, results or the league table dont lie. I am stated the truth, backed up by facts. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=121450

A question for you, are we winning games yes or no?

Of course your allowed an opinion, it's your forum isn't it? The rest of us on this FORUM are allowed an opinion too aren't we without being jumped upon? All opinions are welcome aren't they, whether they agree with you or not? My opinion is I think Ole is doing ok (including tactics) in the time he has been allowed and in the cards he was handed so late on in the season. It's not his fault he was left with a team full of Championship players and numerous bad signings. Malky in my opinion did a fab job in the Championship but he wasn't up to the task for the Premier League, he was far too inexperienced and tactically naive. It has cost us and Ole has been trying to play catch up ever since. Can he pull it off? I don't know, I sure hope he can but I for one applaud him and all the players for having the courage to give it a go. At least if we go down we go down fighting trying to win games hopefully with all the fans right behind our team and manager. Oh, and I'm not looking at the table yet there's still six games to go, I still have hope - Come on you Bluebirds!!!.
A question for you, were we winning games under Malky? I suspect your answer to my question is the same as mine to yours a big fat no but theres still time for Ole to fix that.

The team are obviously fully committed to playing for OGS, however we once again showed that we are not good enough at this level. WBA were poor and we were as bad, the odds are we will both go down with Fulham, which if that's so, then at least those two teams won't be the massive threat that a club the size of Sunderland would be in the Championship.

Correct the commitment and desire is there, but the quality and tactics are not in my opinion and the results show that.

You have to admit a big slice of luck is not going our way match after match. Football is sometimes like that I think we have been very unlucky on many occasions this season and Hull for example have been very lucky thats sometimes the difference between success and failure. There hasn't been too many occasions this season where our players haven't given their all during a game whether that be under Malky or Ole. At the moment we are under Ole and I believe we as loyal supporters should all get behind him and the team to give them the best opportunity of success rather than criticizing our managers tactics and our players quality and maybe that slice of luck will turn our way in the coming games

Loyalty to OGS, or any other manager for that matter is not the issue, by the way, it takes me at least 7 hours of travelling to get to every home game as a ST holder, so it's laughable to question loyalty, of me and more so Annis Luck, also has very little to do with it, once or twice yes, but the games we have lost or drawn all season have been down to the fact that as a team we are not good enough, under Malky or OGS. There is for me though one big positive and that is that I see in OGS a character and manager who is exciting and wants to play attacking football and given time, money and transfer windows he can build the best most talented squad we have ever seen at Cardiff

As highlighted above if Annis is not critical of Ole and the players there then I don't read English very well and nowhere have I questioned "yours" or anyone else's loyalty got that east end chip on your shoulder there mate Thought this was a place where all opinions were welcomed? as long as they don't conflict with god almighty's opinions eh? pmsl

I am allowed an opinion and at this moment in time Ole's tactics are not working, results or the league table dont lie. I am stated the truth, backed up by facts. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=121450

A question for you, are we winning games yes or no?

Of course your allowed an opinion, it's your forum isn't it? The rest of us on this FORUM are allowed an opinion too aren't we without being jumped upon? All opinions are welcome aren't they, whether they agree with you or not? My opinion is I think Ole is doing ok (including tactics) in the time he has been allowed and in the cards he was handed so late on in the season. It's not his fault he was left with a team full of Championship players and numerous bad signings. Malky in my opinion did a fab job in the Championship but he wasn't up to the task for the Premier League, he was far too inexperienced and tactically naive. It has cost us and Ole has been trying to play catch up ever since. Can he pull it off? I don't know, I sure hope he can but I for one applaud him and all the players for having the courage to give it a go. At least if we go down we go down fighting trying to win games hopefully with all the fans right behind our team and manager. Oh, and I'm not looking at the table yet there's still six games to go, I still have hope - Come on you Bluebirds!!!.
A question for you, were we winning games under Malky? I suspect your answer to my question is the same as mine to yours a big fat no but theres still time for Ole to fix that.

I never jumped on your opinion in fact I enjoy different opinions
Ole has brought 7 of his own players and we had 18 games still to play, we were not rooted at the bottom of the Premier League in fact far from it, we were not even in the bottom 3 all facts.
Ole inherited David Marshall,Steven Caulker, Gary Medel, Jordon Mutch,Craig Bellamy,Craig Noone,Fraizer Campbell,Declan John a rising young star,all have at some stages of the season done very well, plus then Ole brought in ' 7 ' new players all his own. Including 3 cup games Ole will have had 21 games come May to have got his team playing, to me we should at least be where Norwich are.

Kim Bo who we all thought was class, Odemwingie who is playing well for Stoke who are way up the league, Peter Whittingham who u all thought was pure class(i never by the way),Taylor and Turner who some rate, some dont, all good squad players.

If we are relegated Ole must shoulder the blame, same as if we stay up Ole gets all the plaudits, way back Jan 3rd most people agreed with that, I cant see how anyone cant, but everyone is entitled to their own opinions

I just think Ole was not the right man at that time to bring in, hopefully Ole will still succeed and either keep us up this season or take us straight back up next season.

The team are obviously fully committed to playing for OGS, however we once again showed that we are not good enough at this level. WBA were poor and we were as bad, the odds are we will both go down with Fulham, which if that's so, then at least those two teams won't be the massive threat that a club the size of Sunderland would be in the Championship.

Correct the commitment and desire is there, but the quality and tactics are not in my opinion and the results show that.

You have to admit a big slice of luck is not going our way match after match. Football is sometimes like that I think we have been very unlucky on many occasions this season and Hull for example have been very lucky thats sometimes the difference between success and failure. There hasn't been too many occasions this season where our players haven't given their all during a game whether that be under Malky or Ole. At the moment we are under Ole and I believe we as loyal supporters should all get behind him and the team to give them the best opportunity of success rather than criticizing our managers tactics and our players quality and maybe that slice of luck will turn our way in the coming games

Loyalty to OGS, or any other manager for that matter is not the issue, by the way, it takes me at least 7 hours of travelling to get to every home game as a ST holder, so it's laughable to question loyalty, of me and more so Annis Luck, also has very little to do with it, once or twice yes, but the games we have lost or drawn all season have been down to the fact that as a team we are not good enough, under Malky or OGS. There is for me though one big positive and that is that I see in OGS a character and manager who is exciting and wants to play attacking football and given time, money and transfer windows he can build the best most talented squad we have ever seen at Cardiff

As highlighted above if Annis is not critical of Ole and the players there then I don't read English very well and nowhere have I questioned "yours" or anyone else's loyalty got that east end chip on your shoulder there mate Thought this was a place where all opinions were welcomed? as long as they don't conflict with god almighty's opinions eh? pmsl

I am allowed an opinion and at this moment in time Ole's tactics are not working, results or the league table dont lie. I am stated the truth, backed up by facts. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=121450

A question for you, are we winning games yes or no?

Of course your allowed an opinion, it's your forum isn't it? The rest of us on this FORUM are allowed an opinion too aren't we without being jumped upon? All opinions are welcome aren't they, whether they agree with you or not? My opinion is I think Ole is doing ok (including tactics) in the time he has been allowed and in the cards he was handed so late on in the season. It's not his fault he was left with a team full of Championship players and numerous bad signings. Malky in my opinion did a fab job in the Championship but he wasn't up to the task for the Premier League, he was far too inexperienced and tactically naive. It has cost us and Ole has been trying to play catch up ever since. Can he pull it off? I don't know, I sure hope he can but I for one applaud him and all the players for having the courage to give it a go. At least if we go down we go down fighting trying to win games hopefully with all the fans right behind our team and manager. Oh, and I'm not looking at the table yet there's still six games to go, I still have hope - Come on you Bluebirds!!!.
A question for you, were we winning games under Malky? I suspect your answer to my question is the same as mine to yours a big fat no but theres still time for Ole to fix that.

I never jumped on your opinion in fact I enjoy different opinions
Ole has brought 7 of his own players and we had 18 games still to play, we were not rooted at the bottom of the Premier League in fact far from it, we were not even in the bottom 3 all facts.
Ole inherited David Marshall,Steven Caulker, Gary Medel, Jordon Mutch,Craig Bellamy,Craig Noone,Fraizer Campbell,Declan John a rising young star,all have at some stages of the season done very well, plus then Ole brought in ' 7 ' new players all his own. Including 3 cup games Ole will have had 21 games come May to have got his team playing, to me we should at least be where Norwich are.

Kim Bo who we all thought was class, Odemwingie who is playing well for Stoke who are way up the league, Peter Whittingham who u all thought was pure class(i never by the way),Taylor and Turner who some rate, some dont, all good squad players.

If we are relegated Ole must shoulder the blame, same as if we stay up Ole gets all the plaudits, way back Jan 3rd most people agreed with that, I cant see how anyone cant, but everyone is entitled to their own opinions

I just think Ole was not the right man at that time to bring in, hopefully Ole will still succeed and either keep us up this season or take us straight back up next season.

Come the end of the season Norwich will be where we are now, and we will be out of the bottom three

Annis you keep saying quality and tactics
Well ole inherited the quality we got from malky
On saturday he was forced due to injuries to change our starting line up as you well know
He tried to bring players to do the same job of those injured and it didnt work
However give him some credit ffs for quickly making changes and getting us back in the game
And lets be honest when we got back to 2 all it was us having ago and them playing on the break
On any other day we could of gone on and won that and even after going behind again with only injury time to play we still got something from the game
Many weeks ago you were claiming our home form would be key to us staying up as long as we nicked points away from home
You have to score goals to win games and at least thats what we are better at under ole than malky
Oles stats 1 goal scored to 2 conceded
Malky stats 1 goal scored to 3 conceded
You moan about quality but malky left us short
You keep on saying ole brought in 7 (not bad in the short time he had to get them in )
Due you not agree cala deihlie and zaha are quality (zaha not showing it yet )(but malky wanted zaha aswell)we miss cala when hes out
Deilhie makes a difference when he comes on
Fabio is quality but was lacking match fitness when he first played
Wolfe needs time to get up to the pace of the premiership
And we havnt over spent like malky did
I really think its time to stop comparing malky and ole and stop trying to allocate blame
Imo if we stay up or go down it will be becouse of malky and ole and more importantly the players and in some small way us the fans

January transfer windows are known to be difficult to do much business as clubs often don't want to let players to. Ole did the best he could and the likes of fabio, daehli, jones, cala and zaha have all made contributions.

We were never going to get world beaters in January.

But some think malky would of done wonders for us if he had not been sacked hmmmmmmmm

Annis you keep saying quality and tactics
Well ole inherited the quality we got from malky
On saturday he was forced due to injuries to change our starting line up as you well know
He tried to bring players to do the same job of those injured and it didnt work
However give him some credit ffs for quickly making changes and getting us back in the game
And lets be honest when we got back to 2 all it was us having ago and them playing on the break
On any other day we could of gone on and won that and even after going behind again with only injury time to play we still got something from the game
Many weeks ago you were claiming our home form would be key to us staying up as long as we nicked points away from home
You have to score goals to win games and at least thats what we are better at under ole than malky
Oles stats 1 goal scored to 2 conceded
Malky stats 1 goal scored to 3 conceded
You moan about quality but malky left us short
You keep on saying ole brought in 7 (not bad in the short time he had to get them in )
Due you not agree cala deihlie and zaha are quality (zaha not showing it yet )(but malky wanted zaha aswell)we miss cala when hes out
Deilhie makes a difference when he comes on
Fabio is quality but was lacking match fitness when he first played
Wolfe needs time to get up to the pace of the premiership
And we havnt over spent like malky did
I really think its time to stop comparing malky and ole and stop trying to allocate blame
Imo if we stay up or go down it will be becouse of malky and ole and more importantly the players and in some small way us the fans

Comparisons between Ole and Malky are the main topics of conversation on this forum, which is why this topic will be done to death and repeated constantly.

But some think malky would of done wonders for us if he had not been sacked hmmmmmmmm

Steve, My Honest opinion is that if Malky had been left alone and not virtually battered and hammered by Tan, Malky would of kept us up. We would of beaten Sunderland,West Ham, Hull City, WBA (Away) and got a draw at the Jacks and Man United.
Thats my honest belief and opinion and nothing will change that, but sadly thanks to the Dictator we will never know and now the Championship is where we look like heading.

January transfer windows are known to be difficult to do much business as clubs often don't want to let players to. Ole did the best he could and the likes of fabio, daehli, jones, cala and zaha have all made contributions.

We were never going to get world beaters in January.

I do agree they are harder than other transfer months, but Ole still brought ' 7 ' players in.

January transfer windows are known to be difficult to do much business as clubs often don't want to let players to. Ole did the best he could and the likes of fabio, daehli, jones, cala and zaha have all made contributions.

We were never going to get world beaters in January.

I do agree they are harder than other transfer months, but Ole still brought ' 7 ' players in.

He did, most of which have contributed and given us more options. I think cala and fabio will start most games and the likes of Zaha and Daehli will feature in most games too. My point is that I'm not sure we could have done much better given our position. In general big names won't sign for a club fighting relegation.

But some think malky would of done wonders for us if he had not been sacked hmmmmmmmm

Steve, My Honest opinion is that if Malky had been left alone and not virtually battered and hammered by Tan, Malky would of kept us up. We would of beaten Sunderland,West Ham, Hull City, WBA (Away) and got a draw at the Jacks and Man United.
Thats my honest belief and opinion and nothing will change that, but sadly thanks to the Dictator we will never know and now the Championship is where we look like heading.

Annis

You say hammered and battered by tan but the reality is they just dident speak to each other for two months. Mehmet was still there running the club day to day and his relationship with Malky was a good one.
Malky has just been used as a stick to beat tan with and as I have said before if tan had sacked Malky after the palace away game there would not have been such a big reaction.
You know yourself going back to the coaches after the palace defeat there was a large number of fans who were calling for his head.
Personally if we go down I hope tan does move on and sells us on to another buyer. My question to you would then be what if the only buyer is someone like peter lim who wants to keep us red what would your reaction be then. Would you let him buy the club and then start more marches and demonstrations against him as you have against tan or would you actively oppose lim buying the club in the first place.
I'm only interested because amongst all the rhetoric regarding the marches no one from any of the supporters organisations has actually come out and said what their plans are if they manage to drive tan from the club.
I suspect that there is no real plan and if tan did call everyones bluff I believe the majority of opposition would disappear overnight as the fear of the cub folding would be a step to far for some fans.
My own personal opinion is after two years of the rebrand which I always believed was based on superstition by tan and has brought no real commercial benefits to the club that dave sugarmans stance was the right one.

But some think malky would of done wonders for us if he had not been sacked hmmmmmmmm

Steve, My Honest opinion is that if Malky had been left alone and not virtually battered and hammered by Tan, Malky would of kept us up. We would of beaten Sunderland,West Ham, Hull City, WBA (Away) and got a draw at the Jacks and Man United.
Thats my honest belief and opinion and nothing will change that, but sadly thanks to the Dictator we will never know and now the Championship is where we look like heading.

Annis

You say hammered and battered by tan but the reality is they just dident speak to each other for two months. Mehmet was still there running the club day to day and his relationship with Malky was a good one.
Malky has just been used as a stick to beat tan with and as I have said before if tan had sacked Malky after the palace away game there would not have been such a big reaction.
You know yourself going back to the coaches after the palace defeat there was a large number of fans who were calling for his head.
Personally if we go down I hope tan does move on and sells us on to another buyer. My question to you would then be what if the only buyer is someone like peter lim who wants to keep us red what would your reaction be then. Would you let him buy the club and then start more marches and demonstrations against him as you have against tan or would you actively oppose lim buying the club in the first place.
I'm only interested because amongst all the rhetoric regarding the marches no one from any of the supporters organisations has actually come out and said what their plans are if they manage to drive tan from the club.
I suspect that there is no real plan and if tan did call everyones bluff I believe the majority of opposition would disappear overnight as the fear of the cub folding would be a step to far for some fans.
My own personal opinion is after two years of the rebrand which I always believed was based on superstition by tan and has brought no real commercial benefits to the club that dave sugarmans stance was the right one.

Steve, In my heart I wish there had been 20,000 David Sugarmans, but there was not and fans like u and I who hated/despised the Rebrand still went, but I honestly believe if the few thousand who were like us had done the same as Dave, we would never have kept the BLUE going inside our stadium and we would by now of lost our identity forever as the Red would of been totally accepted.

As to Tan going, who knows whats around the corner? Do u ? because I dont, who says Tan wont just get bored of us,who says Tan wont throw his toys out of the pram and be fuming he failed by being relegated? As to Lim if he takes over I will just continue my stance and I will never stop what believe I in.

It's about the club and its identity not an owner.

I honestly believe there is always a buyer around the corner for anything, the stumbling block will be the debt Tan has created.

One thing I will say about Tan is, thats thanks to his clown behaviour Cardiff City are now world wide known, a buyer could now come from America,Russia, any part of the world.


As to Malky, no man could take the pressure he was put under in the last 2 months,its hard enough just to manage in the Premier League.

But some think malky would of done wonders for us if he had not been sacked hmmmmmmmm

Steve, My Honest opinion is that if Malky had been left alone and not virtually battered and hammered by Tan, Malky would of kept us up. We would of beaten Sunderland,West Ham, Hull City, WBA (Away) and got a draw at the Jacks and Man United.
Thats my honest belief and opinion and nothing will change that, but sadly thanks to the Dictator we will never know and now the Championship is where we look like heading.

Annis

You say hammered and battered by tan but the reality is they just dident speak to each other for two months. Mehmet was still there running the club day to day and his relationship with Malky was a good one.
Malky has just been used as a stick to beat tan with and as I have said before if tan had sacked Malky after the palace away game there would not have been such a big reaction.
You know yourself going back to the coaches after the palace defeat there was a large number of fans who were calling for his head.
Personally if we go down I hope tan does move on and sells us on to another buyer. My question to you would then be what if the only buyer is someone like peter lim who wants to keep us red what would your reaction be then. Would you let him buy the club and then start more marches and demonstrations against him as you have against tan or would you actively oppose lim buying the club in the first place.
I'm only interested because amongst all the rhetoric regarding the marches no one from any of the supporters organisations has actually come out and said what their plans are if they manage to drive tan from the club.
I suspect that there is no real plan and if tan did call everyones bluff I believe the majority of opposition would disappear overnight as the fear of the cub folding would be a step to far for some fans.
My own personal opinion is after two years of the rebrand which I always believed was based on superstition by tan and has brought no real commercial benefits to the club that dave sugarmans stance was the right one.

Steve, In my heart I wish there had been 20,000 David Sugarmans, but there was not and fans like u and I who hated/despised the Rebrand still went, but I honestly believe if the few thousand who were like us had done the same as Dave, we would never have kept the BLUE going inside our stadium and we would by now of lost our identity forever as the Red would of been totally accepted.

As to Tan going, who knows whats around the corner? Do u ? because I dont, who says Tan wont just get bored of us,who says Tan wont throw his toys out of the pram and be fuming he failed by being relegated? As to Lim if he takes over I will just continue my stance and I will never stop what believe I in.

It's about the club and its identity not an owner.

I honestly believe there is always a buyer around the corner for anything, the stumbling block will be the debt Tan has created.

One thing I will say about Tan is, thats thanks to his clown behaviour Cardiff City are now world wide known, a buyer could now come from America,Russia, any part of the world.


As to Malky, no man could take the pressure he was put under in the last 2 months,its hard enough just to manage in the Premier League.

I agree with most of what you say annis but after that day in the high court I will never have the belief that there is another buyer around the corner because there was no alternative to tan that day.
Tan has done wonderful things for this club with the academies and training etc but he should sit down with the supporters and trust leaders now to at least listen to people's opinions on the shirt and badge.
Even if he has no intention of changing back to blue there is enough of a groundswell of opinion that should make him take notice of supporters feelings and at least enter into dialogue.
I guess we will just have to wait and see what happens but for me the club has lost its appeal because the rebrand now takes precedent in every conversation with fans I have been going with for donkey's years .

But some think malky would of done wonders for us if he had not been sacked hmmmmmmmm

Steve, My Honest opinion is that if Malky had been left alone and not virtually battered and hammered by Tan, Malky would of kept us up. We would of beaten Sunderland,West Ham, Hull City, WBA (Away) and got a draw at the Jacks and Man United.
Thats my honest belief and opinion and nothing will change that, but sadly thanks to the Dictator we will never know and now the Championship is where we look like heading.

Annis

You say hammered and battered by tan but the reality is they just dident speak to each other for two months. Mehmet was still there running the club day to day and his relationship with Malky was a good one.
Malky has just been used as a stick to beat tan with and as I have said before if tan had sacked Malky after the palace away game there would not have been such a big reaction.
You know yourself going back to the coaches after the palace defeat there was a large number of fans who were calling for his head.
Personally if we go down I hope tan does move on and sells us on to another buyer. My question to you would then be what if the only buyer is someone like peter lim who wants to keep us red what would your reaction be then. Would you let him buy the club and then start more marches and demonstrations against him as you have against tan or would you actively oppose lim buying the club in the first place.
I'm only interested because amongst all the rhetoric regarding the marches no one from any of the supporters organisations has actually come out and said what their plans are if they manage to drive tan from the club.
I suspect that there is no real plan and if tan did call everyones bluff I believe the majority of opposition would disappear overnight as the fear of the cub folding would be a step to far for some fans.
My own personal opinion is after two years of the rebrand which I always believed was based on superstition by tan and has brought no real commercial benefits to the club that dave sugarmans stance was the right one.

Steve, In my heart I wish there had been 20,000 David Sugarmans, but there was not and fans like u and I who hated/despised the Rebrand still went, but I honestly believe if the few thousand who were like us had done the same as Dave, we would never have kept the BLUE going inside our stadium and we would by now of lost our identity forever as the Red would of been totally accepted.

As to Tan going, who knows whats around the corner? Do u ? because I dont, who says Tan wont just get bored of us,who says Tan wont throw his toys out of the pram and be fuming he failed by being relegated? As to Lim if he takes over I will just continue my stance and I will never stop what believe I in.

It's about the club and its identity not an owner.

I honestly believe there is always a buyer around the corner for anything, the stumbling block will be the debt Tan has created.

One thing I will say about Tan is, thats thanks to his clown behaviour Cardiff City are now world wide known, a buyer could now come from America,Russia, any part of the world.


As to Malky, no man could take the pressure he was put under in the last 2 months,its hard enough just to manage in the Premier League.

I agree with most of what you say annis but after that day in the high court I will never have the belief that there is another buyer around the corner because there was no alternative to tan that day.
Tan has done wonderful things for this club with the academies and training etc but he should sit down with the supporters and trust leaders now to at least listen to people's opinions on the shirt and badge.
Even if he has no intention of changing back to blue there is enough of a groundswell of opinion that should make him take notice of supporters feelings and at least enter into dialogue.
I guess we will just have to wait and see what happens but for me the club has lost its appeal because the rebrand now takes precedent in every conversation with fans I have been going with for donkey's years .

Steve, but there lies the problem Tan wont sit down with the fans and listen,no one is allowed an opinion other than him and whilst we have a divided club, our club will never ever really be successful, u can throw all the money in the world at it, but without supporters behind u, their really is no real club.

Spk soon Steve

annis you say malky was under so much pressure from tan
and tan wouldn't stop meddling
so why didn't malky have the balls to stand up to tan
ole wasn't going to come until tan matched oles asking price proving ole could/would stand up to tan
malky was as much to blame as tan was with there disputes
the blue fans used malky to get at tan
and malky used us fans to also get at tan
if there was no rebrand our fans would of been calling for malky,s sacking after the the 2 poor results away at stoke and Norwich

annis you say malky was under so much pressure from tan
and tan wouldn't stop meddling
so why didn't malky have the balls to stand up to tan
ole wasn't going to come until tan matched oles asking price proving ole could/would stand up to tan
malky was as much to blame as tan was with there disputes
the blue fans used malky to get at tan
and malky used us fans to also get at tan
if there was no rebrand our fans would of been calling for malky,s sacking after the the 2 poor results away at stoke and Norwich

My opinion is 50% made up 40% exaggerated 10% truth

But some think malky would of done wonders for us if he had not been sacked hmmmmmmmm

Steve, My Honest opinion is that if Malky had been left alone and not virtually battered and hammered by Tan, Malky would of kept us up. We would of beaten Sunderland,West Ham, Hull City, WBA (Away) and got a draw at the Jacks and Man United.
Thats my honest belief and opinion and nothing will change that, but sadly thanks to the Dictator we will never know and now the Championship is where we look like heading.

Weeks before Malay left he said he wanted 3 players! Would have been interesting to see which 3 players he wanted!

Bellamy by far the worst player on the pitch, terribly greedy and was woeful.

Bellamy by far the worst player on the pitch, terribly greedy and was woeful.

Dando, I thought he was very selfish and greedy at West Brom and all his runs were then totally wasted.

Bellamy by far the worst player on the pitch, terribly greedy and was woeful.

Dando, I thought he was very selfish and greedy at West Brom and all his runs were then totally wasted.

Needs to distribute the ball quicker, Campbell had a great view of a goal and made a good run and all he had to was play him and tried to do it himself.

annis you say malky was under so much pressure from tan
and tan wouldn't stop meddling
so why didn't malky have the balls to stand up to tan
ole wasn't going to come until tan matched oles asking price proving ole could/would stand up to tan
malky was as much to blame as tan was with there disputes
the blue fans used malky to get at tan
and malky used us fans to also get at tan
if there was no rebrand our fans would of been calling for malky,s sacking after the the 2 poor results away at stoke and Norwich

2 poor away results at Stoke and Norwich? We got a point at each FFS!

2 poor away results at Stoke and Norwich? We got a point at each FFS!

Correct Alex and Stoke a week later I think beat Chelsea or Liverpool, they are clutching at straws to have ago once again at City's greatest ever manager in my time

Ole now one single point from a top 10 team

2 poor away results at Stoke and Norwich? We got a point at each FFS!

Correct Alex and Stoke a week later I think beat Chelsea or Liverpool, they are clutching at straws to have ago once again at City's greatest ever manager in my time

Ole now one single point from a top 10 team

With the subs and second half he easily could have went for the win v Stoke.

We had Manu away, Man City away, Everton away, Spurs away and a inform Liverpool team at home.

We gave them all a difficult game. You need to look over the games he had against the teams in the top 10.

they were shit results
both games we sat back with 9 men behind the ball
at Norwich our fans on the way out were unanimous in saying malky had to go
annis sometimes you make me laugh malky best manager ever what a joke and quite disrespectfull to a lot of other managers we have had down the years
at the end of the game at stoke malky walked off fist punching the air like he had just won the league ffs what ambition was he showing

they were shit results
both games we sat back with 9 men behind the ball
at Norwich our fans on the way out were unanimous in saying malky had to go
annis sometimes you make me laugh malky best manager ever what a joke and quite disrespectfull to a lot of other managers we have had down the years
at the end of the game at stoke malky walked off fist punching the air like he had just won the league ffs what ambition was he showing

Steve, AWAY FROM HOME TWO DRAWS

Love u Steve

they were shit results
both games we sat back with 9 men behind the ball
at Norwich our fans on the way out were unanimous in saying malky had to go
annis sometimes you make me laugh malky best manager ever what a joke and quite disrespectfull to a lot of other managers we have had down the years
at the end of the game at stoke malky walked off fist punching the air like he had just won the league ffs what ambition was he showing

Sorry Steve got to disagree, they were good draws but shocking performances.

Also it was not unanimous by the fans after Norwich calling for Malky to go.

The most exiting times at cardiff, and you are arguing if norwich draw was god or bad?
In fact it was a piss poor game and should be forgotten. Watching cardiff now is exiting, enjoy it!