' CARDIFF CITY TRAINING GROUND ? '

' CARDIFF CITY TRAINING GROUND ? '......... oh yes one of the other promises from 2 years ago yet ive not seen ONE promise thats been delivered yet for a red shirt just extended promises time after time with more bullshit

Hardly a broken promise. They are waiting for planning permission, which can take a long time you numptey lol

And don't forget the stadium expansion and squad investment

Hes going to invest in the team to make more money off it on promotions ect it does not take natman to break that news to us all and the expansion was part funded by the governing bodys for the super cup

' CARDIFF CITY TRAINING GROUND ? '......... oh yes one of the other promises from 2 years ago yet ive not seen ONE promise thats been delivered yet for a red shirt just extended promises time after time with more bullshit

Hardly a broken promise. They are waiting for planning permission, which can take a long time you numptey lol

Where is it then or any promise for that matter enlighten us all craig although i couldnt give a toss about any other promise than the so called " DEBT TO EQUITY " thats like an episode of eastenders its been dragged out that much. Most accepted this red crap and fans divide for this reason only

Have you not read the thread?

They are waiting for planning permission. You know,that thing you need before you build something!

He delivered on stadium expansion, or do you disbelieve that?

He delivered on giving manager big transfer budget.

no he has not delivered on the debt to equity but this thread was about the training ground so everything else is irrelevant.

Critisize him for rebrand and the so far, failure to convert but you cant deny he has followed through with the rest.

' CARDIFF CITY TRAINING GROUND ? '......... oh yes one of the other promises from 2 years ago yet ive not seen ONE promise thats been delivered yet for a red shirt just extended promises time after time with more bullshit

Hardly a broken promise. They are waiting for planning permission, which can take a long time you numptey lol

And don't forget the stadium expansion and squad investment

Hes going to invest in the team to make more money off it on promotions ect it does not take natman to break that news to us all and the expansion was part funded by the governing bodys for the super cup

O if he does something good its down to someone else but if its bad its all him?

You do make yourself look stupid sometimes

Craig the mans a born liar all this stadium & training ground or better than that everything he does means f**k all because its still not converted debt to equity thats what its all about for most of us fans untill thats done 90% of fans dont believe he word hes said as hes stalled many times on it so continues to rank up the loans yet does what he wants in the meantime

Craig the mans a born liar all this stadium & training ground or better than that everything he does means f**k all because its still not converted debt to equity thats what its all about for most of us fans untill thats done 90% of fans dont believe he word hes said as hes stalled many times on it so continues to rank up the loans yet does what he wants in the meantime

Thats not what you said. You have claimed he lied about the training ground, which he hasnt.

He has actually lied once and thats about the debt conversion. Everything else he has actually followedthrough on. That cant be denied.

Craig the mans a born liar all this stadium & training ground or better than that everything he does means f**k all because its still not converted debt to equity thats what its all about for most of us fans untill thats done 90% of fans dont believe he word hes said as hes stalled many times on it so continues to rank up the loans yet does what he wants in the meantime

Thats not what you said. You have claimed he lied about the training ground, which he hasnt.

He has actually lied once and thats about the debt conversion. Everything else he has actually followedthrough on. That cant be denied.

Once a liar always a liar and like ive said the training ground means nothing to me or joe bloggs on the pitch debt to equity does as promised two years ago ALL OF IT

Craig the mans a born liar all this stadium & training ground or better than that everything he does means f**k all because its still not converted debt to equity thats what its all about for most of us fans untill thats done 90% of fans dont believe he word hes said as hes stalled many times on it so continues to rank up the loans yet does what he wants in the meantime

Thats not what you said. You have claimed he lied about the training ground, which he hasnt.

He has actually lied once and thats about the debt conversion. Everything else he has actually followedthrough on. That cant be denied.

Once a liar always a liar and like ive said the training ground means nothing to me or joe bloggs on the pitch debt to equity does as promised two years ago ALL OF IT

So why are you bleating on about him lying (proven wrong) about the training ground in a thread titled CCFC TRAINING GROUND?

Craig the mans a born liar all this stadium & training ground or better than that everything he does means f**k all because its still not converted debt to equity thats what its all about for most of us fans untill thats done 90% of fans dont believe he word hes said as hes stalled many times on it so continues to rank up the loans yet does what he wants in the meantime

Thats not what you said. You have claimed he lied about the training ground, which he hasnt.

He has actually lied once and thats about the debt conversion. Everything else he has actually followedthrough on. That cant be denied.

Once a liar always a liar and like ive said the training ground means nothing to me or joe bloggs on the pitch debt to equity does as promised two years ago ALL OF IT

So why are you bleating on about him lying (proven wrong) about the training ground in a thread titled CCFC TRAINING GROUND?

Its not built yet so nothings proven

Craig the mans a born liar all this stadium & training ground or better than that everything he does means f**k all because its still not converted debt to equity thats what its all about for most of us fans untill thats done 90% of fans dont believe he word hes said as hes stalled many times on it so continues to rank up the loans yet does what he wants in the meantime

Thats not what you said. You have claimed he lied about the training ground, which he hasnt.

He has actually lied once and thats about the debt conversion. Everything else he has actually followedthrough on. That cant be denied.

And that technically isn't a lie either

Craig the mans a born liar all this stadium & training ground or better than that everything he does means f**k all because its still not converted debt to equity thats what its all about for most of us fans untill thats done 90% of fans dont believe he word hes said as hes stalled many times on it so continues to rank up the loans yet does what he wants in the meantime

Sorry, but (unusually for you) that is an incredibly small-minded comment (in the parts where it actually makes any sense)

Love him or hate him, how on earth can you say "everything he does means f**k all" when much of what he has done has only enhanced the quality of facility we now have (or are about to have) at Cardiff City FC?

I would also say that it is highly unlikely that "90% of fans don't believe a word he's said" (slightly edited to make grammatical sense) as most paying supporters (and they are the ones that really matter at the end of the day) that I speak to only have two 'major' issues:

1: The change to red from blue

2: The (so far) failure to convert the so-called debt into equity, as promised

The former is his biggest error (that is exactly what it was) but there may well be "business" reasons for the latter and I'm sure Vincent Tan is astute enough a businessman (if not a football man) to know what is best for his not inconsiderable investment

That won't make us fans happy, but with respect it is his money and not ours and given the amounts involved (which is a drop in the ocean of his total wealth) it appears to concern us far more than him!

Try to view proceedings with a little more pragmatism and you just might be able to separate the issues you appear to have amalgamated into one big anti-Tan crusade