Mon Jun 03, 2024 2:43 pm
Mon Jun 03, 2024 2:48 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Great I absolutely can’t stand Sunak
Latest Poll shows Sunak's Tories will face a devastating defeat in the upcoming elections and could end up with just 66 seats, ceding a 302 majority to Labor in UK parliament in next week's elections.
Mon Jun 03, 2024 2:56 pm
Jock wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Great I absolutely can’t stand Sunak
Latest Poll shows Sunak's Tories will face a devastating defeat in the upcoming elections and could end up with just 66 seats, ceding a 302 majority to Labor in UK parliament in next week's elections.
From Roland Rat to Flip Flop Starmer. It really is an AIDS or Ebola election.
Mon Jun 03, 2024 4:06 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Great I absolutely can’t stand Sunak
Latest Poll shows Sunak's Tories will face a devastating defeat in the upcoming elections and could end up with just 66 seats, ceding a 302 majority to Labor in UK parliament in next week's elections.
Mon Jun 03, 2024 6:54 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Great I absolutely can’t stand Sunak
Latest Poll shows Sunak's Tories will face a devastating defeat in the upcoming elections and could end up with just 66 seats, ceding a 302 majority to Labor in UK parliament in next week's elections.
If the Reform party hold there form then yes I can see this happening. It happened to John Major, he was expected to hand Labour a 80 seat majority but Tactical Voting (TV) handed Labour a record 189 seat majority. Thing with this TV is people voted for the candidate that was going to defeat the Conservative candidate. So if say it was the Liberal candidate who was going to defeat the Conservative then everyone but a Conservate votes voted for the Liberal. TV could be a bit different this time.
With the emergence of the Reform party they will take quite a few disgruntled Tory votes leaving the door open for whoever was going to come 2nd in a Conservate constituency. Although everyone is saying its going to be a big Labour majority I am not sure. A Labour majority yes but not a landslide.
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Tue Jun 04, 2024 6:38 am
Underhill1927 wrote:The “but Labour are as bad as the Tories” is a lazy excuse not to critically think in my opinion. A lot has changed since they were last in power.
If you honestly think that’s the case then vote elsewhere but I don’t see how anyone can honestly look at the years of corruption, incompetence and lies and not think any kind of change is needed.
I’m one of the “they’re all pretty much in it for themselves” camp, but so will vote for the ones that I think have some empathy and compassion for the working man. Who that is I’m unsure of yet.
Tue Jun 04, 2024 6:42 am
Jock wrote:Underhill1927 wrote:The “but Labour are as bad as the Tories” is a lazy excuse not to critically think in my opinion. A lot has changed since they were last in power.
If you honestly think that’s the case then vote elsewhere but I don’t see how anyone can honestly look at the years of corruption, incompetence and lies and not think any kind of change is needed.
I’m one of the “they’re all pretty much in it for themselves” camp, but so will vote for the ones that I think have some empathy and compassion for the working man. Who that is I’m unsure of yet.
The working man would have to be wearing a frock before Labour showed him any compassion.
Tue Jun 04, 2024 7:42 am
Jock wrote:Underhill1927 wrote:The “but Labour are as bad as the Tories” is a lazy excuse not to critically think in my opinion. A lot has changed since they were last in power.
If you honestly think that’s the case then vote elsewhere but I don’t see how anyone can honestly look at the years of corruption, incompetence and lies and not think any kind of change is needed.
I’m one of the “they’re all pretty much in it for themselves” camp, but so will vote for the ones that I think have some empathy and compassion for the working man. Who that is I’m unsure of yet.
The working man would have to be wearing a frock before Labour showed him any compassion.
Tue Jun 04, 2024 4:44 pm
Underhill1927 wrote:The “but Labour are as bad as the Tories” is a lazy excuse not to critically think in my opinion. A lot has changed since they were last in power.
If you honestly think that’s the case then vote elsewhere but I don’t see how anyone can honestly look at the years of corruption, incompetence and lies and not think any kind of change is needed.
I’m one of the “they’re all pretty much in it for themselves” camp, but so will vote for the ones that I think have some empathy and compassion for the working man. Who that is I’m unsure of yet.
Tue Jun 04, 2024 9:18 pm
wez1927 wrote:Underhill1927 wrote:The “but Labour are as bad as the Tories” is a lazy excuse not to critically think in my opinion. A lot has changed since they were last in power.
If you honestly think that’s the case then vote elsewhere but I don’t see how anyone can honestly look at the years of corruption, incompetence and lies and not think any kind of change is needed.
I’m one of the “they’re all pretty much in it for themselves” camp, but so will vote for the ones that I think have some empathy and compassion for the working man. Who that is I’m unsure of yet.
Reform are now more for the working man than any of the main stream parties .labour and tories are practically the same tbh .
Tue Jun 04, 2024 9:21 pm
wez1927 wrote:Underhill1927 wrote:The “but Labour are as bad as the Tories” is a lazy excuse not to critically think in my opinion. A lot has changed since they were last in power.
If you honestly think that’s the case then vote elsewhere but I don’t see how anyone can honestly look at the years of corruption, incompetence and lies and not think any kind of change is needed.
I’m one of the “they’re all pretty much in it for themselves” camp, but so will vote for the ones that I think have some empathy and compassion for the working man. Who that is I’m unsure of yet.
Reform are now more for the working man than any of the main stream parties .labour and tories are practically the same tbh .
Tue Jun 04, 2024 9:37 pm
Tue Jun 04, 2024 10:41 pm
wez1927 wrote:Hate sunak but he battered starmer in the debate tonight ,if your a pensioner or take a pension you should be worried about taxes labour are going to put on you .
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Wed Jun 05, 2024 2:52 am
Brezza wrote:At least Sunak answered the questions directly. KS NEVER did. Why? He really does not have a plan. BUT undoubtedly he WIL raise taxes. Then all who voted for him and change will moan for the next 5 years. Starmer and Raynor the dream team
Wed Jun 05, 2024 5:16 am
Sven wrote:Brezza wrote:At least Sunak answered the questions directly. KS NEVER did. Why? He really does not have a plan. BUT undoubtedly he WIL raise taxes. Then all who voted for him and change will moan for the next 5 years. Starmer and Raynor the dream team
He does have a plan but he daren't tell you before he is elected, as it involves hitting the hardworking...
Wed Jun 05, 2024 8:24 am
Bakedalasker wrote:Sven wrote:Brezza wrote:At least Sunak answered the questions directly. KS NEVER did. Why? He really does not have a plan. BUT undoubtedly he WIL raise taxes. Then all who voted for him and change will moan for the next 5 years. Starmer and Raynor the dream team
He does have a plan but he daren't tell you before he is elected, as it involves hitting the hardworking...
Yes Sven I'm seeing similar posters like this right across the media.
Our age have come cynical with these politicians over the years and I do feel their is an air of change wanted. However, if one happens it will be very false. Not because it’s the change we don't want but because it will return a Government, Labour landslide, that we definitely don't want.
Wed Jun 05, 2024 9:16 am
Jock wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:Sven wrote:Brezza wrote:At least Sunak answered the questions directly. KS NEVER did. Why? He really does not have a plan. BUT undoubtedly he WIL raise taxes. Then all who voted for him and change will moan for the next 5 years. Starmer and Raynor the dream team
He does have a plan but he daren't tell you before he is elected, as it involves hitting the hardworking...
Yes Sven I'm seeing similar posters like this right across the media.
Our age have come cynical with these politicians over the years and I do feel their is an air of change wanted. However, if one happens it will be very false. Not because it’s the change we don't want but because it will return a Government, Labour landslide, that we definitely don't want.
Change needed and wanted but not going to happen when we’re governed by Globalist shills. Off shoring has to stop for a fairer society but Starmer won’t touch it, Sunak is up to his armpits in it, so he’s happy with the status quo. Time for Revolution and public executions. Personally I’d like Johnathan Ashworth topped first, because he boils my piss.
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Wed Jun 05, 2024 9:49 pm
stickywicket wrote:latest poll Labour 40 Tories 19 Reform 17
Perhaps Sunak should be attacking Farage.
Reform UK is shaking up the general election campaign pulling to within two points behind the Tories in a shocking YouGov poll.
The latest survey conducted just before the ITV debate has put Labour leading the race with 40%, the Tories on 19%, Reform UK on 17%, the Liberal Democrats on 10% and the Greens on 7%.
If that wasn’t enough nightmare for Rishi Sunak, he is being investigated by the UK’s official statistics regulator for his claim that Labour will hike household taxes by £2,000.
Thu Jun 06, 2024 6:07 am
blemmy wrote:stickywicket wrote:latest poll Labour 40 Tories 19 Reform 17
Perhaps Sunak should be attacking Farage.
Reform UK is shaking up the general election campaign pulling to within two points behind the Tories in a shocking YouGov poll.
The latest survey conducted just before the ITV debate has put Labour leading the race with 40%, the Tories on 19%, Reform UK on 17%, the Liberal Democrats on 10% and the Greens on 7%.
If that wasn’t enough nightmare for Rishi Sunak, he is being investigated by the UK’s official statistics regulator for his claim that Labour will hike household taxes by £2,000.
The investigation by the statistics regulator is very much merited and Sunak's "performance" in the debate now pales into pathetic due to him knowingly lying about fabricated figures. Many people will see that as desperation and he should never be believed again.
Some people say that Sunak and Starmer are two cheeks of the same arse. If that's the case then Farage is the arsehole in the middle. Farage is a hateful extreme right winger who has no interest in Clacton, the Reform Party or the UK. The only thing making Farage throw his lot in with Reform is that it gives him the vehicle whereby he can bring about the decimation and humiliation of the Tory Party at the election. This has been his overriding aim in life ever since the Tories expelled him for extremism. Neither he or Reform will win a single seat but he will ensure a landslide victory for Labour at the Tories expense by splitting the Tory vote wherever Reform stands - a Tory vote shared is a Tory vote halved. With no seats but the Tories decimated and job done for Farage; I expect him to declare himself as not electable in the eyes of the UK electorate shortly after the election and to be on the plane back to his mentor Donald Trump shortly thereafter; who unfortunately is a right wing extremist who does have a good chance of power in the USA.
Me - I will just stay loyal to my working class roots on the back of 30 years in coal mining and vote Labour - only choice to me.
Thu Jun 06, 2024 6:26 am
wez1927 wrote:blemmy wrote:stickywicket wrote:latest poll Labour 40 Tories 19 Reform 17
Perhaps Sunak should be attacking Farage.
Reform UK is shaking up the general election campaign pulling to within two points behind the Tories in a shocking YouGov poll.
The latest survey conducted just before the ITV debate has put Labour leading the race with 40%, the Tories on 19%, Reform UK on 17%, the Liberal Democrats on 10% and the Greens on 7%.
If that wasn’t enough nightmare for Rishi Sunak, he is being investigated by the UK’s official statistics regulator for his claim that Labour will hike household taxes by £2,000.
The investigation by the statistics regulator is very much merited and Sunak's "performance" in the debate now pales into pathetic due to him knowingly lying about fabricated figures. Many people will see that as desperation and he should never be believed again.
Some people say that Sunak and Starmer are two cheeks of the same arse. If that's the case then Farage is the arsehole in the middle. Farage is a hateful extreme right winger who has no interest in Clacton, the Reform Party or the UK. The only thing making Farage throw his lot in with Reform is that it gives him the vehicle whereby he can bring about the decimation and humiliation of the Tory Party at the election. This has been his overriding aim in life ever since the Tories expelled him for extremism. Neither he or Reform will win a single seat but he will ensure a landslide victory for Labour at the Tories expense by splitting the Tory vote wherever Reform stands - a Tory vote shared is a Tory vote halved. With no seats but the Tories decimated and job done for Farage; I expect him to declare himself as not electable in the eyes of the UK electorate shortly after the election and to be on the plane back to his mentor Donald Trump shortly thereafter; who unfortunately is a right wing extremist who does have a good chance of power in the USA.
Me - I will just stay loyal to my working class roots on the back of 30 years in coal mining and vote Labour - only choice to me.
Nonsense, reform will take votes off Labour as will the workers party , the election before 2019 the brexit party ie reform now took more votes off Labour than the tories. Reform will win seats this time the momentum is massive for them atm , farage is 10 points up in Clacton already ,