Is VT here to stay?

Simple question, should be interesting to see the responses.

Personally I think so, hence the heavy investment in the club and the planned improvemts to the facilities. If he chooses to sell up and a new owner comes in, then I imagine their first move would be to revert to blue. I cannot see this happening for many years though.

So, do you think VT is here to stay?

I would say for a couple of seasons if we get to the premier.

Simple question, should be interesting to see the responses.

Personally I think so, hence the heavy investment in the club and the planned improvemts to the facilities. If he chooses to sell up and a new owner comes in, then I imagine their first move would be to revert to blue. I cannot see this happening for many years though.

So, do you think VT is here to stay?

Good question and yes I believe he's here for the long haul. Why? He's creating something here. I know it's unpopular and I hate it as much as the next real City fan but you can't deny the rebrand was ambitious if not a stupid idea but ambitious nonetheless. He's spent a hell of a lot of money on the playing staff and plans for a new training ground are afoot. He's even threatening to take a look at the debt! Plus he's trying to sell us to the Asian market which is pretty fruitless in the championship but in the premier league it will work no doubt.

Whatever his motives he's here for the long haul which is his one saving grace as far as I am concerned, I may not like what he has done to my club but I cannot deny his commitment to the cause.

I personally think he is and am very grateful for his input and support.

Simple question, should be interesting to see the responses.

Personally I think so, hence the heavy investment in the club and the planned improvemts to the facilities. If he chooses to sell up and a new owner comes in, then I imagine their first move would be to revert to blue. I cannot see this happening for many years though.

So, do you think VT is here to stay?

Good question and yes I believe he's here for the long haul. Why? He's creating something here. I know it's unpopular and I hate it as much as the next real City fan but you can't deny the rebrand was ambitious if not a stupid idea but ambitious nonetheless. He's spent a hell of a lot of money on the playing staff and plans for a new training ground are afoot. He's even threatening to take a look at the debt! Plus he's trying to sell us to the Asian market which is pretty fruitless in the championship but in the premier league it will work no doubt.

Whatever his motives he's here for the long haul which is his one saving grace as far as I am concerned, I may not like what he has done to my club but I cannot deny his commitment to the cause.


Very good question took the words out of my mouth.Agree with what you say, he has a good record of developing and expanding his investments. I too would say the long haul.

Yes, appreciate his efforts. He's a wealthy businessman but over the past few months he's been at a lot of our games, quite impressive considering he's thousands of miles away most of the time.

Simple question, should be interesting to see the responses.

Personally I think so, hence the heavy investment in the club and the planned improvemts to the facilities. If he chooses to sell up and a new owner comes in, then I imagine their first move would be to revert to blue. I cannot see this happening for many years though.

So, do you think VT is here to stay?

Good question and yes I believe he's here for the long haul. Why? He's creating something here. I know it's unpopular and I hate it as much as the next real City fan but you can't deny the rebrand was ambitious if not a stupid idea but ambitious nonetheless. He's spent a hell of a lot of money on the playing staff and plans for a new training ground are afoot. He's even threatening to take a look at the debt! Plus he's trying to sell us to the Asian market which is pretty fruitless in the championship but in the premier league it will work no doubt.

Whatever his motives he's here for the long haul which is his one saving grace as far as I am concerned, I may not like what he has done to my club but I cannot deny his commitment to the cause.

This is how i see it, i'm unhappy with the loss of the blue home shirts but there is no question that without VT's investment, we, as a club, would be dead in the water, he has put a lot of money into the club which he can only reclaim by getting us and keeping us in the premier league, if he then sells the club on at a profit then good on him, a new owner might even return us to blue.

Very good question and honestly couldn't call it either way.

Has he rebranded us to sell us on to someone who has already shown interest for a quick buck?

Has he rebranded us to increase his own personal image in this part of the world?

Has he rebranded because they were the terms another potential investor has given him?

The question is a good one because it opens up many more and we can only predict what will happen.

Yes i would say after all hes done so far and put in the club money wise its obvious

As long as the club is eventually run well financially im happy for him to stay

Can't wait for him to leave.

Can't wait for him to leave.

Well, in that case i hope you know of a money man ready to step in.

I think so.

Well I don't think he will just pull out. He may sell us on and reduce the percentage he owns.

In my opinion and it is just that based on what people down the club have said.

VT had no interest in football and seen it as an investment come status thing to help expand his other business interests, but something has changed and he getting the bug big time, which can only be good for us.

A big turning point was that post match lap him and Tg did after the Leicester game I think, it made him feel ten foot tall and totally loved up.

Now no matter how rich you are, money wont be you that sort of love and feeling, and I think he's buzzing off it, and there in is part of my worry, if he feels he's lost our love, he may lose his interest in us, hard one to call, and seriously I just want to see the best result long term for the club, I don't do what I do to feel important, you ask anyone that really knows me if they think that is the case.

I am happy to be a part of it like the rest of us and just want to sit there and take it all in after waiting years for days like this, there'l be no one happier than me when all this crap dies down and we can just move on, but I wont hold my breath.

In my opinion and it is just that based on what people down the club have said.

VT had no interest in football and seen it as an investment come status thing to help expand his other business interests, but something has changed and he getting the bug big time, which can only be good for us.

A big turning point was that post match lap him and Tg did after the Leicester game I think, it made him feel ten foot tall and totally loved up.

Now no matter how rich you are, money wont be you that sort of love and feeling, and I think he's buzzing off it, and there in is part of my worry, if he feels he's lost our love, he may lose his interest in us, hard one to call, and seriously I just want to see the best result long term for the club, I don't do what I do to feel important, you ask anyone that really knows me if they think that is the case.

I am happy to be a part of it like the rest of us and just want to sit there and take it all in after waiting years for days like this, there'l be no one happier than me when all this crap dies down and we can just move on, but I wont hold my breath.

hes been at most games this season flying over 12 hour flight ,i think hes commited

He will be here until it no longer suits his business needs.

He will be here until it no longer suits his business needs.

I don't think his business needs require him being at every game, but he still comes.

In my opinion and it is just that based on what people down the club have said.

VT had no interest in football and seen it as an investment come status thing to help expand his other business interests, but something has changed and he getting the bug big time, which can only be good for us.

A big turning point was that post match lap him and Tg did after the Leicester game I think, it made him feel ten foot tall and totally loved up.

Now no matter how rich you are, money wont be you that sort of love and feeling, and I think he's buzzing off it, and there in is part of my worry, if he feels he's lost our love, he may lose his interest in us, hard one to call, and seriously I just want to see the best result long term for the club, I don't do what I do to feel important, you ask anyone that really knows me if they think that is the case.

I am happy to be a part of it like the rest of us and just want to sit there and take it all in after waiting years for days like this, there'l be no one happier than me when all this crap dies down and we can just move on, but I wont hold my breath.

If he loses a lot of support/love, it's only by forcing a rebrand on a club that nobody really wants (even the staunch pro-reds would PREFER us in Blue).

In my opinion and it is just that based on what people down the club have said.

VT had no interest in football and seen it as an investment come status thing to help expand his other business interests, but something has changed and he getting the bug big time, which can only be good for us.

A big turning point was that post match lap him and Tg did after the Leicester game I think, it made him feel ten foot tall and totally loved up.

Now no matter how rich you are, money wont be you that sort of love and feeling, and I think he's buzzing off it, and there in is part of my worry, if he feels he's lost our love, he may lose his interest in us, hard one to call, and seriously I just want to see the best result long term for the club, I don't do what I do to feel important, you ask anyone that really knows me if they think that is the case.

I am happy to be a part of it like the rest of us and just want to sit there and take it all in after waiting years for days like this, there'l be no one happier than me when all this crap dies down and we can just move on, but I wont hold my breath.

If he loses a lot of support/love, it's only by forcing a rebrand on a club that nobody really wants (even the staunch pro-reds would PREFER us in Blue).

Who are these pro reds? even the ones buying the kit are doing it as a show of support for the team and the club, not because the pigment or shade suits them more, as someone said the last time I had a favourite colour was when I was six, and that was a toy car.

Football fans being what we are in the main will support him and his decisions as long as things keep moving forward and working out well, if it goes bad on the pitch, they will hound him out whatever colour we are playing in.

Whilst some people are obsessed with colour etc, the vast majority as it can be seen are more concerned with on field actions and results, it would be totally different if we were ate the bottom rather than top of the division, and that's just how it is.

I don't think the record season ticket sales and the waiting list for next years is because we play in red, it's because we are winning and successful, regardless of any colour change.

Does anyone believe we 'd have big crowds and records sales if we were sliding down the divisions but playing in blue.

Can't wait for him to leave.

If it wasn't for him mate we'd be right in the shit.

Another grown up sensible answer from you once again

If he does not f**k about with our badge and tradition any more I will welcome
him staying.

He has been the best thing to happen to Cardiff since Sam Hammam first walked in through the
door and has now surpassed anything Sam ever did. Main difference is in his business acumen.

We are making huge strides forward, but within a rigid structure. We WILL spend big, but we will
NOT spend silly money, either on Players or wages.

We look like a Club that knows what its about and where its going. If he sells us and moves on
we may well get back the Blue kit, but it will be into the unknown again.

He will be here until it no longer suits his business needs.

I don't think his business needs require him being at every game, but he still comes.

He keeps coming back because Malky has promised him that Kev will definitely score one of these days and he is determined not to miss it

I hope he is here for many seasons to come. Can only be good to have a man of his wealth and passion to the club for a long time.

Can't wait for him to leave.

If it wasn't for him mate we'd be right in the shit.

Another grown up sensible answer from you once again

You're welcome.

Some very interesting responses as I expected, with most people feeling that he's here for the long-term. I suppose it brings about further questions that some of you have touched upon.

Firstly, is VT beginning to view this club as more than just a business?

Would he leave a job half finished? (The proposed training facilities, the expanding fan-base, the advancement on and off the pitch, is he likely to jump ship early?)

and finally, what would it take for him to leave? Is it just a numbers game to him? Or do the fans opinions play a role?

I would appreciate if this didn't descend into another rebrand thread. It's important to take different perspectives on VT, his vision and the future.

No, he will sell the club on in the summer to the Chinese consortium, providing we are a premier league club

He doesn't care what the fans think, or he would have respected the club's traditions and identity.

He doesn't care what the fans think, or he would have respected the club's traditions and identity.

He was there when Cardiff City needed someone to get the Club out the shit.
Without Tan there would be no tradition or Identity. There would be no Club.

Yes, I think so... Well all I know is, if I threw 10s of millions into a project, then I wouldn't be going anywhere untill I got a return on the project I'd been investing heavily into, know matter how rich I was. Even if I didn't care about losing the money I'd pumped in, I certainly wouldn't want to lose face and admit defeat by cutting my loses (being a successful business man like v.t, you wouldn't want to fail at all costs)

He doesn't care what the fans think, or he would have respected the club's traditions and identity.

He was there when Cardiff City needed someone to get the Club out the shit.
Without Tan there would be no tradition or Identity. There would be no Club.

I'm not saying he didnt, that's not the point I was making though.

He doesn't care about what the fans think, because he would hve respected the fans wishes if he did.