Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:39 pm
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thomasblue wrote:There is easily 10 full backs better than him in the championship alone
Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:00 pm
thomasblue wrote:Dont like slagging him off but the truth is he is an average championship defender , no better no worse .
He tries hard enough and allways looks to help out in attack ( more now than he used to )
BUT he gets skinned by anybody with a bit of pace
gets turned inside out by anybody with a bit of skill
constantly out of position putting his c/b under pressure
when he does get on the overlap his crossing is diabolical
There is easily 10 full backs better than him in the championship alone
He is not good enough for the premiership
And a replacement is needed for next year if we want to stay up FACT
Other than that i like him lol
Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:00 pm
Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:01 pm
thomasblue wrote:Dont like slagging him off but the truth is he is an average championship defender , no better no worse .
He tries hard enough and allways looks to help out in attack ( more now than he used to )
BUT he gets skinned by anybody with a bit of pace
gets turned inside out by anybody with a bit of skill
constantly out of position putting his c/b under pressure
when he does get on the overlap his crossing is diabolical
There is easily 10 full backs better than him in the championship alone
He is not good enough for the premiership
And a replacement is needed for next year if we want to stay up FACT
Other than that i like him lol
Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:04 pm
Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:08 pm
thomasblue wrote:WAYNE BRIDGE - BRIGHTON - not really
STEPHEN CARR BRUM
SAM RICKETTS BOLTON
TYRONE MEARS - BOLTON
KIERON TRIPPIER - BURNLEY
DEAN MOXEY - PALACE
JOHN BRAYFORD - DERBY
ALAN TATE - LEEDS - definetly not
PAUL KONCHESKY - LEICESTER - no he isnt
DANIEL AYALA - FOREST
JOHNATHAN PARR - PALACE
MATT CONNOLLY - CARDIFF - doesnt play left back for us and certianly not better at going forward
I GOT ONE OR TWO MORE IF YOU WANT THEM ? OR DO YOU JUST WANT TO ARGUE WITH THOSE CHOICES ???
Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:08 pm
Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:08 pm
thomasblue wrote:WAYNE BRIDGE - BRIGHTON
STEPHEN CARR BRUM
SAM RICKETTS BOLTON
TYRONE MEARS - BOLTON
KIERON TRIPPIER - BURNLEY
DEAN MOXEY - PALACE
JOHN BRAYFORD - DERBY
ALAN TATE - LEEDS
PAUL KONCHESKY - LEICESTER
DANIEL AYALA - FOREST
JOHNATHAN PARR - PALACE
MATT CONNOLLY - CARDIFF
I GOT ONE OR TWO MORE IF YOU WANT THEM ? OR DO YOU JUST WANT TO ARGUE WITH THOSE CHOICES ???
Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:13 pm
Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:13 pm
Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:13 pm
thomasblue wrote:WAYNE BRIDGE - BRIGHTON - better but played at Prems top level
STEPHEN CARR BRUM - gets done week in, week out, watch more football
SAM RICKETTS BOLTON - see above - bolton are struggling for a reason
TYRONE MEARS - BOLTON - see above
KIERON TRIPPIER - BURNLEY - stop the drug abuse please
DEAN MOXEY - PALACE - arguably a better player but no guarantee that he is
JOHN BRAYFORD - DERBY - better but also the best full back in the Championship by some distance
ALAN TATE - LEEDS - No, just no. He is a terrible player
PAUL KONCHESKY - LEICESTER - Better but has Prem experience and once played for Liverpool
DANIEL AYALA - FOREST - No just no. He was crap at Prem level at youth and still is now
JOHNATHAN PARR - PALACE - Again no. This is just another name you've plucked out because hes at Palace
MATT CONNOLLY - CARDIFF - Hes a makeshift right back, not a left back. They face different threats unless wingers switch wings.
Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:17 pm
BlueBirdForLife wrote:thomasblue wrote:WAYNE BRIDGE - BRIGHTON
STEPHEN CARR BRUM
SAM RICKETTS BOLTON
TYRONE MEARS - BOLTON
KIERON TRIPPIER - BURNLEY
DEAN MOXEY - PALACE
JOHN BRAYFORD - DERBY
ALAN TATE - LEEDS
PAUL KONCHESKY - LEICESTER
DANIEL AYALA - FOREST
JOHNATHAN PARR - PALACE
MATT CONNOLLY - CARDIFF
I GOT ONE OR TWO MORE IF YOU WANT THEM ? OR DO YOU JUST WANT TO ARGUE WITH THOSE CHOICES ???
You being serious, most of them are right backs for a start, taylor has improved a lot this season and ince is a prem player in the making so if he got turned a few times, i bet he would turn at least most of them on that list
Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:22 pm
Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:22 pm
All Black Everything. wrote:thomasblue wrote:WAYNE BRIDGE - BRIGHTON - better but played at Prems top level
STEPHEN CARR BRUM - gets done week in, week out, watch more football
SAM RICKETTS BOLTON - see above - bolton are struggling for a reason
TYRONE MEARS - BOLTON - see above
KIERON TRIPPIER - BURNLEY - stop the drug abuse please
DEAN MOXEY - PALACE - arguably a better player but no guarantee that he is
JOHN BRAYFORD - DERBY - better but also the best full back in the Championship by some distance
ALAN TATE - LEEDS - No, just no. He is a terrible player
PAUL KONCHESKY - LEICESTER - Better but has Prem experience and once played for Liverpool
DANIEL AYALA - FOREST - No just no. He was crap at Prem level at youth and still is now
JOHNATHAN PARR - PALACE - Again no. This is just another name you've plucked out because hes at Palace
MATT CONNOLLY - CARDIFF - Hes a makeshift right back, not a left back. They face different threats unless wingers switch wings.
So the only three there who are better are Bridge who has plied his trade at the Premierships top level, Konchesky who has plied his trade at a decent level in the Premiership although struggled somewhat at Liverpool and Brayford, a player who has been tipped by many to easily make the move up to the Premiership etc.
Ridiculous to be honest. You've basically just proved how good he actually is. Easily the 4th best in the division and only ones who beat him are those with real potential talent or proven Prem experience.
Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:24 pm
thomasblue wrote:All Black Everything. wrote:thomasblue wrote:WAYNE BRIDGE - BRIGHTON - better but played at Prems top level
STEPHEN CARR BRUM - gets done week in, week out, watch more football
SAM RICKETTS BOLTON - see above - bolton are struggling for a reason
TYRONE MEARS - BOLTON - see above
KIERON TRIPPIER - BURNLEY - stop the drug abuse please
DEAN MOXEY - PALACE - arguably a better player but no guarantee that he is
JOHN BRAYFORD - DERBY - better but also the best full back in the Championship by some distance
ALAN TATE - LEEDS - No, just no. He is a terrible player
PAUL KONCHESKY - LEICESTER - Better but has Prem experience and once played for Liverpool
DANIEL AYALA - FOREST - No just no. He was crap at Prem level at youth and still is now
JOHNATHAN PARR - PALACE - Again no. This is just another name you've plucked out because hes at Palace
MATT CONNOLLY - CARDIFF - Hes a makeshift right back, not a left back. They face different threats unless wingers switch wings.
So the only three there who are better are Bridge who has plied his trade at the Premierships top level, Konchesky who has plied his trade at a decent level in the Premiership although struggled somewhat at Liverpool and Brayford, a player who has been tipped by many to easily make the move up to the Premiership etc.
Ridiculous to be honest. You've basically just proved how good he actually is. Easily the 4th best in the division and only ones who beat him are those with real potential talent or proven Prem experience.
John parr ripped us apart when we played palace last year hes the left back with long blonde hair and is a very very good player , connolly can play anywhere along the back 4 .
tyrone mears dean moxey kieron trippier are all better and by some distance .
he may be top ten but would be around 8th at best
sorry but just an honest oppinion
Will taylor be good enough for the prem then ? iyo
Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:24 pm
Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:25 pm
I Bleed Blue wrote:Paul Konchesky better than Andrew Taylor
Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:26 pm
BlueBirdForLife wrote:I Bleed Blue wrote:Paul Konchesky better than Andrew Taylor
And tate
Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:26 pm
Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:29 pm
CraigCCFC wrote:Hahaha just gone for recognised names. Seriously get off football manager and learn about the game
Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:34 pm
thomasblue wrote:I wasnt slagging him off he does a decent job im saying there are better left back around . its a fact .
He WAS at fault for there goal because he let his man get goal side of him which should never happen
He could have also gave a penalty away BUT other than that he had a decent game .to often he is below average and all people are saying is that he is a weak link in a otherwise solid defense . most goals we concede come from down his side and that is also a fact , which you would know if you watch the games and take notice .
Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:34 pm
thomasblue wrote:CraigCCFC wrote:Hahaha just gone for recognised names. Seriously get off football manager and learn about the game
there recognised names because there good players , and i said full backs they were just off the top of my head and i dont play computer games boys .
Question . how many of you had heard of taylor before he came here and would you have put him in a top ten full back list when he was at middlesborough ?
Alan tate is a left back who can play c/b
Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:38 pm
Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:44 pm
CjBluebird17 wrote:Knew about taylor when he was at Middlesborough when they were in the prem. He's got about 60 caps under him in the premier league. How many of those full backs can say that?
Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:46 pm
thomasblue wrote:CjBluebird17 wrote:Knew about taylor when he was at Middlesborough when they were in the prem. He's got about 60 caps under him in the premier league. How many of those full backs can say that?
probably 6 of them
bridge - easily
konchesky - yes
ricketts yes
mears ? possibly right back
ayala not sure guessing quite a center back few though
carr - yes past it now
the others are mainly young hopefulls who look quality
Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:48 pm