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" Malky Mackay "

Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:11 pm

Fair play to the guy he seems to be growing as a manager at a rapid pace. In my opinion he still has a lot to learn but he has proved so many wrong so far this season. There have been many times i have questioned his pre-match team selection but the result has proved me wrong over and over.

At the beginning of the season he was single minded in getting players with his work ethic that could get us out of this division and so far how can we argue with him. I think you'd have to go a long way to find such a together squad and I believe the lack of egos has gained us at least 10 extra points on our rivals.

A massive example of this is Aron Gunnarsson. He was dropped (rightfully so in my opinion) but he kept coming off the bench and putting in huge performances and scoring some vital goals, then Don Cowie jumped the queue when mutch got injured in front of him. Gunnar didn't pout but waited in the wings then took his chance and cemented his place in our midfield.

The biggest change i have seen in malky this year is his use of substitutes. Last season the amount of times everyone could see we needed a change but nothing happened seemed to be a weekly thing. But in hindsight malky obviously had no faith in what was at his disposal. This season there is a complete contrast, if someone isn't doing the business he is hauled off at half time. 3 examples of this was Kiss against Hull, Rudy last week and Kev vs Millwall (i think).

There is still a slight question mark about malky's ability in the transfer market in my opinion. I think Kiss isn't good enough, i don't think Velikonja will come through and Jordon Mutch really needs to prove himself. Noone, Connolly, Turner, Smith have been big successes, bellamy was obvious, kimbo has shown me enough to say he's gonna be a very good player for us but i still think i need to see more to be 100% convinced that the dossier system a complete success.
Having said that he's assembled a group of players that have got us 10 points clear mid january so this system must have had some success.

Tactically i believe malky has had his hands tied to a certain extent by the injury to Maynard. He is the only striker on our books who is able to effectively play up top alone. i reckon this would have seen us play 4-5-1 more often and i think we would have seen far more of kimbo if this was the case. Malky has certainly proved that he is flexible when it comes to tactics though. He often varies wingers and uses them to either tuck in/give width and also to be attack minded/defensive. He also showed like yesterday that he is not afraid to do something completely different.

I think we have a fine young manager and whether he can cut it in the premier league time will tell but at the moment he is doing a superb job and i believe he deserves our backing 100%. :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Malky Mackay

Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:15 pm

Best upcoming British manager :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Malky Mackay

Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:17 pm

good post :ayatollah:

Re: Malky Mackay

Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:21 pm

Tbh I would say say far his biggest strength has been the players he have signed.

I still think kiss is worth what we paid.
Mutch has huge potential but needs time and games.

Etien is looking less likely but one out of how many signins?

Re: Malky Mackay

Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:21 pm

CantonJack wrote:Best upcoming British manager


:thumbup: :notworthy:

Re: Malky Mackay

Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:22 pm

Good post, although I thought Malky took too long to change from his preferred 4-5-1 away formation earlier in the season, which clearly wasn't working and we kept losing possession further upfield and inviting unnecessary pressure on us!

This was especially prevalent, when we just stood off our opponents and allowed them to run us ragged, for nigh on 60 minutes at Forest!

Malky seemed too stubborn to me at the time and I remember travelling back from Nottingham really miffed!

Since then however, he's played predominantly a 4-4-2 formation away from home, save for the odd game like yesterday and it's worked!

I can't fault any of the team selections or substitutions he's made since around the Forest game either and he seems to be learning his trade very quickly! :D

Re: Malky Mackay

Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:24 pm

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Re: Malky Mackay

Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:30 pm

2blue2handle wrote:Tbh I would say say far his biggest strength has been the players he have signed.

I still think kiss is worth what we paid.
Mutch has huge potential but needs time and games.

Etien is looking less likely but one out of how many signins?



I'm not sure about kiss and i honestly think velikonja wont make it here now cos malky has had plenty of opportunities to play him and hasnt. Jury is out on jordon mutch to be honest but he's got plenty of time tonprove himself.
Maybe i am being a bit harsh on his transfers, he did have more than most at his disposal but we are 10 points clear too.

Re: Malky Mackay

Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:33 pm

thehumblegringo wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:Tbh I would say say far his biggest strength has been the players he have signed.

I still think kiss is worth what we paid.
Mutch has huge potential but needs time and games.

Etien is looking less likely but one out of how many signins?



I'm not sure about kiss and i honestly think velikonja wont make it here now cos malky has had plenty of opportunities to play him and hasnt. Jury is out on jordon mutch to be honest but he's got plenty of time tonprove himself.
Maybe i am being a bit harsh on his transfers, he did have more than most at his disposal but we are 10 points clear too.


Kiss was very poor last game, I think he will go out on loan next season and it will help him.

Have to remember last seasons transfers as well tho.

I wanted MM in the first place so I'm delighted we got him and think he has been excellent.

Re: Malky Mackay

Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:36 pm

Great post. He is quality :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Malky Mackay

Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:39 pm

Overthemoon wrote:Good post, although I thought Malky took too long to change from his preferred 4-5-1 away formation earlier in the season, which clearly wasn't working and we kept losing possession further upfield and inviting unnecessary pressure on us!

This was especially prevalent, when we just stood off our opponents and allowed them to run us ragged, for nigh on 60 minutes at Forest!

Malky seemed too stubborn to me at the time and I remember travelling back from Nottingham really miffed!

Since then however, he's played predominantly a 4-4-2 formation away from home, save for the odd game like yesterday and it's worked!

I can't fault any of the team selections or substitutions he's made since around the Forest game either and he seems to be learning his trade very quickly! :D



Good post that mate and i entirely agree with you, and like you say since that forest game malky has been completely on the ball with his decisions (only peterboro have caught us cold tactically). Malky has shown a great willingness to adapt and deserves great credit for that :ayatollah:

Re: Malky Mackay

Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:41 pm

thehumblegringo wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:Good post, although I thought Malky took too long to change from his preferred 4-5-1 away formation earlier in the season, which clearly wasn't working and we kept losing possession further upfield and inviting unnecessary pressure on us!

This was especially prevalent, when we just stood off our opponents and allowed them to run us ragged, for nigh on 60 minutes at Forest!

Malky seemed too stubborn to me at the time and I remember travelling back from Nottingham really miffed!

Since then however, he's played predominantly a 4-4-2 formation away from home, save for the odd game like yesterday and it's worked!

I can't fault any of the team selections or substitutions he's made since around the Forest game either and he seems to be learning his trade very quickly! :D


Good post that mate and i entirely agree with you, and like you say since that forest game malky has been completely on the ball with his decisions (only peterboro have caught us cold tactically). Malky has shown a great willingness to adapt and deserves great credit for that :ayatollah:

:ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Malky Mackay

Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:41 pm

Also subbed Mutch Boxing Day vs Palace and that changed the game! Well done Malky :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Malky Mackay

Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:47 pm

thehumblegringo wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:Good post, although I thought Malky took too long to change from his preferred 4-5-1 away formation earlier in the season, which clearly wasn't working and we kept losing possession further upfield and inviting unnecessary pressure on us!

This was especially prevalent, when we just stood off our opponents and allowed them to run us ragged, for nigh on 60 minutes at Forest!

Malky seemed too stubborn to me at the time and I remember travelling back from Nottingham really miffed!

Since then however, he's played predominantly a 4-4-2 formation away from home, save for the odd game like yesterday and it's worked!

I can't fault any of the team selections or substitutions he's made since around the Forest game either and he seems to be learning his trade very quickly! :D



Good post that mate and i entirely agree with you, and like you say since that forest game malky has been completely on the ball with his decisions (only peterboro have caught us cold tactically). Malky has shown a great willingness to adapt and deserves great credit for that :ayatollah:


I wouldn't even say Peterborough caught us tactically. They just got an early goal and nothing we could do could break them down. Add that to some awful defending and it doesn't matter what the manager's tactics were.

I'd disagree with you on the transfer market front though. I'd say we've been night on perfect in it. Velikonja aside I think all of his fee transfers have been decent to great and Rudy aside all of his frees have been good to brilliant. very little to complain about imo.

Re: Malky Mackay

Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:47 pm

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Re: Malky Mackay

Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:50 pm

Well said, you must be a former Leisure & Tourism student to come up with that.

Re: " Malky Mackay "

Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:53 pm

He's growing as a manager incredibly fast, made all the right decisions recently. I trust him so much more than Dave Jones.

He oozes confidence :ayatollah:

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Re: " Malky Mackay "

Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:55 pm

Cardiffmad wrote:Well said, you must be a former Leisure & Tourism student to come up with that.


Hahaha i dont like it when you invade my posts i'm not ready for my funeral just yet! The grim reaper

Re: " Malky Mackay "

Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:03 pm

I'm not sure there has ever been a manager where all his signings were a success.

Some of the most successful managers were Shankley and co at Liverpool and they had a fair number of failures. But their real success was in not buying instant success - look at the younger players such as Tosh, Keegan and Rush whom they bought from lower divisions. They provided years of service. A much better approach that £35million on a flop.

I've always felt that that is how we should operate. Failures don't cost the earth and can be shipped on. Successes can do a great job or be sold on. That's the good thing about Malky's signings many have potential to get money back or better.

Re: " Malky Mackay "

Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:06 pm

Fantastic post \o/ <o> \o/ <o> \o/

Re: " Malky Mackay "

Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:08 pm

Griff wrote:I'm not sure there has ever been a manager where all his signings were a success.

Some of the most successful managers were Shankley and co at Liverpool and they had a fair number of failures. But their real success was in not buying instant success - look at the younger players such as Tosh, Keegan and Rush whom they bought from lower divisions. They provided years of service. A much better approach that £35million on a flop.

I've always felt that that is how we should operate. Failures don't cost the earth and can be shipped on. Successes can do a great job or be sold on. That's the good thing about Malky's signings many have potential to get money back or better.



It's difficult because we dont know exactly how much we've paid for players, only rumours.
Maribor reckon we paid over £2 mill for velikonja, if we did that is a lot of money. Jordon mutch is said to be over £2 mill as well. But i do agree with that most of our players could be sold on at a profit tomorrow so i will agree i was a bit harsh. I was just tryimg to be as balanced as i could. :malky:

Re: " Malky Mackay "

Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:10 pm

thehumblegringo wrote:
Cardiffmad wrote:Well said, you must be a former Leisure & Tourism student to come up with that.


Hahaha i dont like it when you invade my posts i'm not ready for my funeral just yet! The grim reaper


Looking good at the moment, nice cushion to have.
A mate of mine went to Brum with you and a few others.

Re: " Malky Mackay "

Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:10 pm

thehumblegringo wrote:Fair play to the guy he seems to be growing as a manager at a rapid pace. In my opinion he still has a lot to learn but he has proved so many wrong so far this season. There have been many times i have questioned his pre-match team selection but the result has proved me wrong over and over.

At the beginning of the season he was single minded in getting players with his work ethic that could get us out of this division and so far how can we argue with him. I think you'd have to go a long way to find such a together squad and I believe the lack of egos has gained us at least 10 extra points on our rivals.

A massive example of this is Aron Gunnarsson. He was dropped (rightfully so in my opinion) but he kept coming off the bench and putting in huge performances and scoring some vital goals, then Don Cowie jumped the queue when mutch got injured in front of him. Gunnar didn't pout but waited in the wings then took his chance and cemented his place in our midfield.

The biggest change i have seen in malky this year is his use of substitutes. Last season the amount of times everyone could see we needed a change but nothing happened seemed to be a weekly thing. But in hindsight malky obviously had no faith in what was at his disposal. This season there is a complete contrast, if someone isn't doing the business he is hauled off at half time. 3 examples of this was Kiss against Hull, Rudy last week and Kev vs Millwall (i think).

There is still a slight question mark about malky's ability in the transfer market in my opinion. I think Kiss isn't good enough, i don't think Velikonja will come through and Jordon Mutch really needs to prove himself. Noone, Connolly, Turner, Smith have been big successes, bellamy was obvious, kimbo has shown me enough to say he's gonna be a very good player for us but i still think i need to see more to be 100% convinced that the dossier system a complete success.
Having said that he's assembled a group of players that have got us 10 points clear mid january so this system must have had some success.

Tactically i believe malky has had his hands tied to a certain extent by the injury to Maynard. He is the only striker on our books who is able to effectively play up top alone. i reckon this would have seen us play 4-5-1 more often and i think we would have seen far more of kimbo if this was the case. Malky has certainly proved that he is flexible when it comes to tactics though. He often varies wingers and uses them to either tuck in/give width and also to be attack minded/defensive. He also showed like yesterday that he is not afraid to do something completely different.

I think we have a fine young manager and whether he can cut it in the premier league time will tell but at the moment he is doing a superb job and i believe he deserves our backing 100%. :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:



Great post mate

Agree with everything. The sub situation this season is something no Cardiff manager has ever had the luxury. When you can leave £2m signings out of the starting 11 then it's something we're not used to. He's on the verge of becoming a Cardiff City legend after only two seasons. Incredible how many decent managers in British football originated from that 30 mile radius of Glasgow. As professional as they come

Re: " Malky Mackay "

Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:10 pm

thehumblegringo wrote:Fair play to the guy he seems to be growing as a manager at a rapid pace. In my opinion he still has a lot to learn but he has proved so many wrong so far this season. There have been many times i have questioned his pre-match team selection but the result has proved me wrong over and over.

At the beginning of the season he was single minded in getting players with his work ethic that could get us out of this division and so far how can we argue with him. I think you'd have to go a long way to find such a together squad and I believe the lack of egos has gained us at least 10 extra points on our rivals.

A massive example of this is Aron Gunnarsson. He was dropped (rightfully so in my opinion) but he kept coming off the bench and putting in huge performances and scoring some vital goals, then Don Cowie jumped the queue when mutch got injured in front of him. Gunnar didn't pout but waited in the wings then took his chance and cemented his place in our midfield.

The biggest change i have seen in malky this year is his use of substitutes. Last season the amount of times everyone could see we needed a change but nothing happened seemed to be a weekly thing. But in hindsight malky obviously had no faith in what was at his disposal. This season there is a complete contrast, if someone isn't doing the business he is hauled off at half time. 3 examples of this was Kiss against Hull, Rudy last week and Kev vs Millwall (i think).

There is still a slight question mark about malky's ability in the transfer market in my opinion. I think Kiss isn't good enough, i don't think Velikonja will come through and Jordon Mutch really needs to prove himself. Noone, Connolly, Turner, Smith have been big successes, bellamy was obvious, kimbo has shown me enough to say he's gonna be a very good player for us but i still think i need to see more to be 100% convinced that the dossier system a complete success.
Having said that he's assembled a group of players that have got us 10 points clear mid january so this system must have had some success.

Tactically i believe malky has had his hands tied to a certain extent by the injury to Maynard. He is the only striker on our books who is able to effectively play up top alone. i reckon this would have seen us play 4-5-1 more often and i think we would have seen far more of kimbo if this was the case. Malky has certainly proved that he is flexible when it comes to tactics though. He often varies wingers and uses them to either tuck in/give width and also to be attack minded/defensive. He also showed like yesterday that he is not afraid to do something completely different.

I think we have a fine young manager and whether he can cut it in the premier league time will tell but at the moment he is doing a superb job and i believe he deserves our backing 100%. :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:



Great post mate

Agree with everything. The sub situation this season is something no Cardiff manager has ever had the luxury. When you can leave £2m signings out of the starting 11 then it's something we're not used to. He's on the verge of becoming a Cardiff City legend after only two seasons. Incredible how many decent managers in British football originated from that 30 mile radius of Glasgow. As professional as they come

Re: " Malky Mackay "

Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:16 pm

To think we could have had Shearer! I wonder what sort of team we would have had under Shearer and how many of his old pals who are past it he would have signed?

Malky was spot on with his team selection once again yesterday. I totally agreed with Noone on the bench as Kim and Conway do a lot more defensive work. Personally, I would have started Conway and Smith on the wings, but Malky started Kimbo and he scored and was man of the match in my opinion. His cross field ball for our winning goal was sensational!

Re: " Malky Mackay "

Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:25 pm

Most managers would have thrown Conway to the lions after he put in a transfer request but he gave him another opportunity too which he took with both hands. I believe that descision spoke volumes and gave hope to all the players who wernt getting regular game time. :malky:

Re: " Malky Mackay "

Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:24 pm

He was exactly what we needed after Jones (I like Jones and wish him well).
The way he has galvanized the squad from the off is superb.
He is his own man and won't take shit.
That's why we have no prima donnas and a squad that fights tooth and nail for each other.

His signings have been great (Etienn will come good I'm sure) and he won't be bullied in the market.
My only criticism is the way that he is using Whitts, but you can't argue with that when you see the results.

Re: " Malky Mackay "

Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:52 pm

His substitutions show a ruthlessness not many managers have actually!

Mutch WILL come good, he is a class player, but somethings not quite right
at the moment, whether its attitude, injury... we will see. But when Malky
took him off after half an hour was it?

It was

"you are on there to do a certain job, to give me a particular strength and to
give 100% to the cause, your not doing it Son, come and sit down and have a
think about it"


Every single player in the squad saw that. ;)

Something else i noticed last night was our superior fitness on what is NOT our pitch.
As shit as that pitch is, Blackpool play on it every other week and are used to it. In
the last ten minutes when we were hitting the corners we were actually following it
up with two/three bodies and not giving them a free rein to just hoof it back up into
our half. Blackpool looked leggy at the end. Conway in particular looked like he had
just come on :lol:

Fit, determined, drilled. Add a little flair to that mix (Kim bo/Bellamy/Whitts/Campbell????)

Our lads could stay in Dubai till March and the chasing pack would still be chasing :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: " Malky Mackay "

Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:36 pm

He seems to have proved my doubts about him were wrong. :malky: :malky: :malky: :malky: :malky:

Re: " Malky Mackay "

Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:00 am

Somebody bump the Malky Man Utd thread.