Your all delusional, if you think.....

That all these fans wearing red scarves or not protesting at the re-brand are all PLASTICS or johnny come latelys. The majority are supporters who have been going off and on for years and years. Ok they weren't at every game, but just remember on the odd occasion we pulled big crowds through the 80s, 90s and throughout 2000 just remember when we had a 20k turnout for Leeds, who were to a man passionate Cardiff supporters. So don't delude yourselves that these are mostly new supporters they are not, yes more kids, but the majority have been Cardiff fans for years and years. This message board and mike Morris is a microcosm of our support, just like all the hoolies back in the day were deluded to believe that supporting our club was all about rucking with the opposition, the large majority went to support the team and nothing else. Last night was a watershed, my advice is if it hurts that much then it's time to leave it there not carry on killing yourselves inside.

That all these fans wearing red scarves or not protesting at the re-brand are all PLASTICS or johnny come latelys. The majority are supporters who have been going off and on for years and years. Ok they weren't at every game, but just remember on the odd occasion we pulled big crowds through the 80s, 90s and throughout 2000 just remember when we had a 20k turnout for Leeds, who were to a man passionate Cardiff supporters. So don't delude yourselves that these are mostly new supporters they are not, yes more kids, but the majority have been Cardiff fans for years and years. This message board and mike Morris is a microcosm of our support, just like all the hoolies back in the day were deluded to believe that supporting our club was all about rucking with the opposition, the large majority went to support the team and nothing else. Last night was a watershed, my advice is if it hurts that much then it's time to leave it there not carry on killing yourselves inside.

Well said..

That all these fans wearing red scarves or not protesting at the re-brand are all PLASTICS or johnny come latelys. The majority are supporters who have been going off and on for years and years. Ok they weren't at every game, but just remember on the odd occasion we pulled big crowds through the 80s, 90s and throughout 2000 just remember when we had a 20k turnout for Leeds, who were to a man passionate Cardiff supporters. So don't delude yourselves that these are mostly new supporters they are not, yes more kids, but the majority have been Cardiff fans for years and years. This message board and mike Morris is a microcosm of our support, just like all the hoolies back in the day were deluded to believe that supporting our club was all about rucking with the opposition, the large majority went to support the team and nothing else. Last night was a watershed, my advice is if it hurts that much then it's time to leave it there not carry on killing yourselves inside.

The people who are most frustrating are the ones that say stuff like

The way cardiff fans have rolled over and accepted the rebrand sickens me

If they are so passionately against it then it is up to them to organise it a response to it.

There have been some twits and parody/joke accounts from the red side but most of the division and split has come from blues accusing people who don't really mind what colour we play in of being not proper fans (I will get abuse for this but I emplore you to dig up any threads by people who have accepted the rebrand that actively insult the people that havent, they are few and far between).

I agree with you, the time has come for something to be done, put up or shut up, rather than this constant whinging and bickering. People referring to the past doesn't help e.g. they arent a proper fan because they werent that rainy night in the 80s when we got 2000. Unfortunately the rebrand has happened NOW, not then, and Cardiffs support NOW appear to not really mind what colour the team play in.

Regardless of the scarfs and red-filled stadium I am sure most fans would rather play in blue, some people just realise that if someone gives/loans (depending on the future debt ---> equity issue) you lots of money you don't necessarily get to set every term and condition of the deal.

If it wasn't for this message board and MMs, no one would have any idea if there was anyone against the re-brand, that's how strongly the supporters feel. The last time I saw Cardiff supporters angry about anything, was the Ridsdale rip-off and what happened. 3000 of us marched on the ground, organised by Annis and others and supported in good numbers which got the message that we were not happy across to the board. It is not the new supporters as they are called by some, it's all of us, those who are honest with themselves will admit that it is not really that important in the scheme of things.