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Cardiff City Trademark Lapsed - FAO Craig

Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:32 pm

Craig, you seem to be under the illusion that a businesses trading identifier is also its trademark. My dear friend you couldn't be more wrong.

This is taken from a trademark search on the very site you linked. I think you'll see that I am right and that the trademark has the status of EXPIRED. It was registered in 02 and has now lapsed with no renewal as you can see there.
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Re: Cardiff City Trademark Lapsed - FAO Craig

Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:39 pm

Anyone else concerned by this? Why has it not been renewed?

I see a big name change bombshell about to hit

Re: Cardiff City Trademark Lapsed - FAO Craig

Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:43 pm

Haven't we always been AFC?
I remember being a kid and asking my dad what the A stood for?

When did "Cardiff city fc" expire?

Re: Cardiff City Trademark Lapsed - FAO Craig

Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:44 pm

Paxman wrote:Anyone else concerned by this? Why has it not been renewed?

I see a big name change bombshell about to hit


Cardiff City AFC Bluebirds is still registered. Whether we are covered under this I do not know and someone with more background in this regards may be able to help us out.

However, 'Cardiff City FC and Cardiff City Football Club have expired. I don't know the implications for this but why have they been allowed to expire?

Re: Cardiff City Trademark Lapsed - FAO Craig

Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:45 pm

2blue2handle wrote:Haven't we always been AFC?
I remember being a kid and asking my dad what the A stood for?

When did "Cardiff city fc" expire?


Unsure mate but that is still registered but dont know whether it covers us. If it does then great news because it dont run out until 2018 but the current name on the sites is CARDIFF CITY FC or CARDIFF CITY FOOTBALL CLUB which mirrors the lapsed trademarks worryingly.

Re: Cardiff City Trademark Lapsed - FAO Craig

Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:48 pm

Paxman wrote:Anyone else concerned by this? Why has it not been renewed?

I see a big name change bombshell about to hit



Yes , what has the f*cking idiot got up his sleeve with the name . Nothing would surprise me anymore

Re: Cardiff City Trademark Lapsed - FAO Craig

Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:49 pm

Why do you post under three usernames? Hefilmsclouds, JBCCFC and All black everything? Answer that for me and i'll take you seriously.

:old:

Re: Cardiff City Trademark Lapsed - FAO Craig

Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:49 pm

HeFilmsTheClouds wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:Haven't we always been AFC?
I remember being a kid and asking my dad what the A stood for?

When did "Cardiff city fc" expire?


Unsure mate but that is still registered but dont know whether it covers us. If it does then great news because it dont run out until 2018 but the current name on the sites is CARDIFF CITY FC or CARDIFF CITY FOOTBALL CLUB which mirrors the lapsed trademarks worryingly.


I always find it murky anyway (not just us) but different parts of the club under different names.

I think Ninian parks sign was "Cardiff city afc"

It is certainly interesting tho.

Re: Cardiff City Trademark Lapsed - FAO Craig

Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:51 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Why do you post under three usernames? Hefilmsclouds, JBCCFC and All black everything? Answer that for me and i'll take you seriously.

:old:


Mac, PC and Mobile.

Re: Cardiff City Trademark Lapsed - FAO Craig

Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:53 pm

That's a bit worrying. I am sure that if the name of the club changed then a lot of people would walk away.

Re: Cardiff City Trademark Lapsed - FAO Craig

Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:53 pm

HeFilmsTheClouds wrote:
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Why do you post under three usernames? Hefilmsclouds, JBCCFC and All black everything? Answer that for me and i'll take you seriously.

:old:


Mac, PC and Mobile.


In that order or? Why don't you use just the one for all three? Do you have a different personality each time you log into said items as you have drastically different views for each account. You got something to tell us Barnett? Only the other day you said the rebrand doesn't bother you.

:old:

Re: Cardiff City Trademark Lapsed - FAO Craig

Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:57 pm

Expired in Nov 2012.

I'm guessing it's more likely to be a cock up by the club. Someone forgetting to renew.

Does that mean somoene could produce merchandise with 'Cardiff City Football Club' and 'Cardiff City FC' without an issue?

Re: Cardiff City Trademark Lapsed - FAO Craig

Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:58 pm

Search any club and you will see loads of expired names similar to ours. There is still a version of the name on trademark.

Manchester United FC has expired.

Re: Cardiff City Trademark Lapsed - FAO Craig

Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:58 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:
In that order or? Why don't you use just the one for all three? Do you have a different personality each time you log into said items as you have drastically different views for each account. You got something to tell us Barnett? Only the other day you said the rebrand doesn't bother you.

:old:


It didn't bother me mate until I heard of the scarf promotion campaign. That was the breaking point for me. Not only did it come at a time when some fans were just starting to unify again ready for the promotion campaign but it was a clear case of forcing the red on people. Those who didn't accept having a colour forced on them got abused and told to support other clubs.

There was no need at all for it. The club should have waited until the summer and then compromised but instead showed its true colours after initially stating the BLUE would remain. I do not see how we can believe this claim in the slightest given that the latest scarf didn't feature a drop of blue and even the bluebird was red.

I think the scarf issue made me realise that this was never going to stop. Every little bit Tan could push the rebrand he would do so just that little bit further to get the ideal club he wants.

Re: Cardiff City Trademark Lapsed - FAO Craig

Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:00 pm

Owain wrote:Expired in Nov 2012.

I'm guessing it's more likely to be a cock up by the club. Someone forgetting to renew.

Does that mean somoene could produce merchandise with 'Cardiff City Football Club' and 'Cardiff City FC' without an issue?


Interesting, how much to buy them :lol:

Re: Cardiff City Trademark Lapsed - FAO Craig

Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:01 pm

Why can you not understand that despite being a brain washing campaign by the club the scarfs were NOT FORCED on anyone. I refused one quite politely, many others could but refused. Now, you were not there, so stop speaking lies, lies and more lies. People had a choice whether or not they wanted a red scarf or not and they lapped them up in their droves.

:old:

Re: Cardiff City Trademark Lapsed - FAO Craig

Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:01 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
Owain wrote:Expired in Nov 2012.

I'm guessing it's more likely to be a cock up by the club. Someone forgetting to renew.

Does that mean somoene could produce merchandise with 'Cardiff City Football Club' and 'Cardiff City FC' without an issue?


Interesting, how much to buy them :lol:


COuple of hundred quid I would guess.

Re: Cardiff City Trademark Lapsed - FAO Craig

Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:07 pm

Barnett, look what was registered in 2009 with a 10 year registration with they come with.

http://www.trademarken.co.uk/trademark/ ... SaaG6OnzFq

It seems you stopped scrolling judging by the dates. More scaremongering
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Re: Cardiff City Trademark Lapsed - FAO Craig

Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:07 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Why can you not understand that despite being a brain washing campaign by the club the scarfs were NOT FORCED on anyone. I refused one quite politely, many others could but refused. Now, you were not there, so stop speaking lies, lies and more lies. People had a choice whether or not they wanted a red scarf or not and they lapped them up in their droves.

:old:


Not everyone they "sold out" in the Ninian stand 15mins before KO :lol:
Told my nephew he could have mine :oops:

Re: Cardiff City Trademark Lapsed - FAO Craig

Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:10 pm

It'd be a bit silly to put on/off lights on the front of the CCS with the words 'Cardiff City Football Club' if this is the case

BARNETT- ELAPSED TRADEMARK...NO!

Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:11 pm

http://www.trademarken.co.uk/trademark/ ... SaaG6OnzFq

Registered in 2009 with standard 10 year registration.

The copy and paste you did was of old trademarks either dead or expiring. Not new ones.

Re: Cardiff City Trademark Lapsed - FAO Craig

Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:13 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:Barnett, look what was registered in 2009 with a 10 year registration with they come with.

http://www.trademarken.co.uk/trademark/ ... SaaG6OnzFq

It seems you stopped scrolling judging by the dates. More scaremongering


Craig, I accepted that but does that cover the club on all basis' with the new badge etc. as well or just with the old badge? Im not looking for an argument but a discussion on this. As I stated above there are other trademarks still registered and active but do these protect us with the new badge as that trademark registration specifically has the old badge on it.

Stop with the scaremongering nonsense. We support the same club and I'm sure you want the club to keep its name and nickname as well. Lets have an adult like discussion on this. :ayatollah:

Re: Cardiff City Trademark Lapsed - FAO Craig

Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:14 pm

Adults dont use 3 usernames and argue with themselves.....nutters do.

Re: Cardiff City Trademark Lapsed - FAO Craig

Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:20 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:Adults dont use 3 usernames and argue with themselves.....nutters do.


Where have I argued with myself? More unsubstantiated claims. Bye then.

Re: Cardiff City Trademark Lapsed - FAO Craig

Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:21 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
Owain wrote:Expired in Nov 2012.

I'm guessing it's more likely to be a cock up by the club. Someone forgetting to renew.

Does that mean somoene could produce merchandise with 'Cardiff City Football Club' and 'Cardiff City FC' without an issue?


Interesting, how much to buy them :lol:


Owners of expired trademarks have 6 months after expiration to renew.

Re: Cardiff City Trademark Lapsed - FAO Craig

Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:22 pm

Wayne S wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
Owain wrote:Expired in Nov 2012.

I'm guessing it's more likely to be a cock up by the club. Someone forgetting to renew.

Does that mean somoene could produce merchandise with 'Cardiff City Football Club' and 'Cardiff City FC' without an issue?


Interesting, how much to buy them :lol:


Owners of expired trademarks have 6 months after expiration to renew.


All very interesting.

Re: Cardiff City Trademark Lapsed - FAO Craig

Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:23 pm

HeFilmsTheClouds wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:Adults dont use 3 usernames and argue with themselves.....nutters do.


Where have I argued with myself? More unsubstantiated claims. Bye then.


Errrr a few days ago you didnt care about the rebrand. Now your a staunch blue......

Re: Cardiff City Trademark Lapsed - FAO Craig

Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:24 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
Wayne S wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
Owain wrote:Expired in Nov 2012.

I'm guessing it's more likely to be a cock up by the club. Someone forgetting to renew.

Does that mean somoene could produce merchandise with 'Cardiff City Football Club' and 'Cardiff City FC' without an issue?


Interesting, how much to buy them :lol:


Owners of expired trademarks have 6 months after expiration to renew.


All very interesting.


New one registered 2009

http://www.trademarken.co.uk/trademark/ ... SaaG6OnzFq

Re: Cardiff City Trademark Lapsed - FAO Craig

Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:24 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:Adults dont use 3 usernames and argue with themselves.....nutters do.


Hes a staunch pro rebrander in one, a suicidal, hate Tan, RIP CCFC in the other and the third he's a Serie A scout with a family to support with theories about Southampton wanting to get relegated on purpose for the parachute money.

:old:

Re: Cardiff City Trademark Lapsed - FAO Craig

Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:25 pm

Typical scaremongering.

What a stupid sig too.