IT IS A MYSTERY

An average of 2250 season ticket holders do not turn up at every home game and even more baffling is against swansea 2080 did not turn up ?

With the price on season tickets I cannot understand why so many would turn up wek in week out, I know fans go on hloiday during the season and others may work certain weekends but for these numbers to be missing each home game is just not right.

For 2080 seats to be empty at a debry match in which the tickets are already paid for is astonishing, I know of people who did not attend but gave their tickets to friends to enjoy the match but this is over 2000 tickets every game not being used.

The club are mystified with this situation as well, the club has obviously had the money for the tickets but are missing out on other revenue ie. food, drinks, club shop.etc.

I know that some fans came to the stadium at the beginning of the season and no longer turn up because they do not like the atmosphere at CCS but again I would be surprised if this accounted for the numbers we are talking about here.

Do you know of any reason for these fans not to turn up as the club are keen to know themselves.

It really is perplexing, and concerning.

I'm amazed at these figures Carl.

I really cannot think of a reason for so many regularly missing games.

I have missed one home game this season, but a freind of mine had my card, my mrs has missed about six games, & on about four of those occasions her card was also used. It seems a high figure of people not turning up, & not allowing there cards to be used, especially for the Swansea game.

An average of 2250 season ticket holders do not turn up at every home game and even more baffling is against swansea 2080 did not turn up ?

With the price on season tickets I cannot understand why so many would turn up wek in week out, I know fans go on hloiday during the season and others may work certain weekends but for these numbers to be missing each home game is just not right.

For 2080 seats to be empty at a debry match in which the tickets are already paid for is astonishing, I know of people who did not attend but gave their tickets to friends to enjoy the match but this is over 2000 tickets every game not being used.

The club are mystified with this situation as well, the club has obviously had the money for the tickets but are missing out on other revenue ie. food, drinks, club shop.etc.

I know that some fans came to the stadium at the beginning of the season and no longer turn up because they do not like the atmosphere at CCS but again I would be surprised if this accounted for the numbers we are talking about here.

Do you know of any reason for these fans not to turn up as the club are keen to know themselves.

Carl

Its ridiculous and there is no obvious reason for it. Perhaps the club should have written to those who don`t often turn up (I doubt if it is the same 2,000 people each week) to find out why.

One scheme I would like to see introduced (and will try and take up through the Trust) is some form of "ticket exchange" where season ticket holders who know they will be unable to attend certain games through illness , holiday , change of jobs to outside the area or other reason can write to the club confirming that they cannot attend and authorising the freed up ticket to be available for purchase for the match(es) in question. They could then have a credit to their season ticket cost or vouchers for the club shop or similar and the club would benefit from having another ticket to sell. Might help to avoid situations like the Swansea game where "full" signs were put up re the Family Stand but where there were clearly hundreds of seats physically available because season ticket holders didn`t use their seats.

May take a bit of organising but should be possible with the current season ticket card electronic system and a bit of effort on the part of the club.


Keith

There a lots of clubs who operate a ticket exchange system.

It is more relevant now in CCS with a swipe card as people are reluctant to sell/give their cards away for single matches etc when at NP tickets were easier to dispose of.

The bloke who sits by me in the Canton has only been to about 3 home games this season and when I asked him why that was he said that he actually lives in Liverpool and bought his season ticket primarily to be able to but away tickets as he said he'd been to almost all of the away games which was quite easy from Liverpool.

When I asked why he didn't just get an away membership he said he wanted to be an ambassador for first dibs on play off and cup tickets etc.

I'm sure he's a rare case but I just post this as an example of one of what are no doubt many reasons why not all season ticket holders go to every game.

An average of 2250 season ticket holders do not turn up at every home game and even more baffling is against swansea 2080 did not turn up ?

With the price on season tickets I cannot understand why so many would turn up wek in week out, I know fans go on hloiday during the season and others may work certain weekends but for these numbers to be missing each home game is just not right.

For 2080 seats to be empty at a debry match in which the tickets are already paid for is astonishing, I know of people who did not attend but gave their tickets to friends to enjoy the match but this is over 2000 tickets every game not being used.

The club are mystified with this situation as well, the club has obviously had the money for the tickets but are missing out on other revenue ie. food, drinks, club shop.etc.

I know that some fans came to the stadium at the beginning of the season and no longer turn up because they do not like the atmosphere at CCS but again I would be surprised if this accounted for the numbers we are talking about here.

Do you know of any reason for these fans not to turn up as the club are keen to know themselves.

I'd bet most spaces which we had for the Swansea game were kids tickets in the family stand.

Not really suprised at that.

The club have also got to consider how many of the empty seats were ones where the season ticket was 'free' in the first place. Hundreds of kids tickets 'sold' FOC for the familty stand and that always seesm to be where the most 'missing' fans are.

how many families , kids etc actually want to sit next to the away fans at CCS anyway ? I bet switching the family end to the Canton will do a hell of a lot for that

Is it true that when the official attendance is given it includes all season ticket holders whether or no they actually turn up or is it a figure based on the actual number of people inside the ground?

If the former then it would appear from Carl's post that if you take approximately 2000 off each official attendance the figures don't look quite so good.

An average of 2250 season ticket holders do not turn up at every home game and even more baffling is against swansea 2080 did not turn up ?

With the price on season tickets I cannot understand why so many would turn up wek in week out, I know fans go on hloiday during the season and others may work certain weekends but for these numbers to be missing each home game is just not right.

For 2080 seats to be empty at a debry match in which the tickets are already paid for is astonishing, I know of people who did not attend but gave their tickets to friends to enjoy the match but this is over 2000 tickets every game not being used.

The club are mystified with this situation as well, the club has obviously had the money for the tickets but are missing out on other revenue ie. food, drinks, club shop.etc.

I know that some fans came to the stadium at the beginning of the season and no longer turn up because they do not like the atmosphere at CCS but again I would be surprised if this accounted for the numbers we are talking about here.

Do you know of any reason for these fans not to turn up as the club are keen to know themselves.

Maybe if it is the same 200 week in week out. But if its a different one then more understandable.

my mate paid the deposit for the seat next to mine, but then cancelled his direct debit,
The club wouldnt sell the seat for any league games.
Maybe alot of people had done that, and the club didnt receive the money.

A man in his late 50's early 60's and his wife next to me and my mate have 3 seats for the 2 of them, when i asked him why the other seat is always empty he told me that his wife was uncomfortble sitting next to a stranger so had to buy the other seat so nobody would sit next to her.

I know two guys who bought season tickets who hardly go. One got a new job and can only attend one in every four games, whilst the other got a new missus in Bridgend so spends all weekend shagging her.

Many fans I know cant stand the New Stadium and just dont go any more to home games, just Away now.
A lot of fans buy even though they cant make some games due to work.
I wasnt at the Jacks game, but my 4 tickets were snapped up and so were counted.

My son and I have season tickets and live in Dorset. He lost his job, and the new one he found insisted he work Saturdays so cannot go. They are usually used by family in Cardiff, but not always. Also, shamefully, if games are on tv I dont travel as it is a long way and costly to drive there and back when it is on in my living room. I also go to quite a few away games, especially those in the south ( london only 90 miles away for example ). Similar to the guy in Liverpool I also took into consideration the possibility of qualifying for tickets to play offs, etc as a season ticket is relatively cheap, and I see it as a way of still supporting the club I love, if not always in person. Believe it or not, it is more expensive to watch Bournemouth than the city in most cases.

Since the Peterborough game on Tuesday 9 February I have been one of those missing, despite having a season ticket. I vowed then I will never go to another game or put another penny into the club whilst Ridsdale remains at the club and that remains the case. What exacerbated those feelings was the abysmal turn out at the protest that was supposed to have happened that night and the subsequent ignorance/ apathy of so many in the face of which led me to lose faith in many of my fellow supporters, far worse than anything Ridsdale has done. The only time I have been back to the ground was for the protest Annis arranged, but I did not go to the game.

theres a feller from norwich who sits next to me and skunky and he has done 1 game all season, and that was the geordie game

Since the Peterborough game on Tuesday 9 February I have been one of those missing, despite having a season ticket. I vowed then I will never go to another game or put another penny into the club whilst Ridsdale remains at the club and that remains the case. What exacerbated those feelings was the abysmal turn out at the protest that was supposed to have happened that night and the subsequent ignorance/ apathy of so many in the face of which led me to lose faith in many of my fellow supporters, far worse than anything Ridsdale has done. The only time I have been back to the ground was for the protest Annis arranged, but I did not go to the game.

With all due respect, and i know you are a valued member of the forum and community, but no matter whats said, done and actioned, I could never abandon the team i love and support - no matter what happens - i go to the game to support the 11 players on the pitch. I put asside all the off field problems, and concentrate on the reasons why i actually attend......

Little pick n shovel and all that....

without being mischevious, how many in the family stand who have free child tickets, took advantage of getting the cheapest seat in town when buying a family ticket ,when they also probably had no intention of taking their kids?
the family stand always looks to have more gaps dotted about than any other.
perhaps the club could look into this, should be compulsory to take your kids a minmum of say 12 games?
may be way off the mark?

perhaps a lot of people died,when was that swine flu thingy?

without being mischevious, how many in the family stand who have free child tickets, took advantage of getting the cheapest seat in town when buying a family ticket ,when they also probably had no intention of taking their kids?
the family stand always looks to have more gaps dotted about than any other.
perhaps the club could look into this, should be compulsory to take your kids a minmum of say 12 games?
may be way off the mark?

I only got access to my kids on weekends, so they haven't been to a single midweek game all season. Looks like the will miss the play off home leg.

without being mischevious, how many in the family stand who have free child tickets, took advantage of getting the cheapest seat in town when buying a family ticket ,when they also probably had no intention of taking their kids?
the family stand always looks to have more gaps dotted about than any other.
perhaps the club could look into this, should be compulsory to take your kids a minmum of say 12 games?
may be way off the mark?

First thing they want to do with that stand is move it to where the canton is!!!!

Since the Peterborough game on Tuesday 9 February I have been one of those missing, despite having a season ticket. I vowed then I will never go to another game or put another penny into the club whilst Ridsdale remains at the club and that remains the case. What exacerbated those feelings was the abysmal turn out at the protest that was supposed to have happened that night and the subsequent ignorance/ apathy of so many in the face of which led me to lose faith in many of my fellow supporters, far worse than anything Ridsdale has done. The only time I have been back to the ground was for the protest Annis arranged, but I did not go to the game.

I admire your principle, but I reckon you're just cutting your nose off to spite your own face. I attend games to support my team! Fook all to do with the Riddler.

Riddler has had the money for this season so don't give a fook. I personally go to games but have stopped buying programmes , 50/50 etc , and I do this to withhold my money from him !!! If I didn't attend games , then he'd still have my ST money.
I admit I bought a new ST before christmas (well I was paying for the Jan transfer window - or so I thought) , but not attending is a very big stance to take. I admire the way you made your mind up and stick to your principles but couldn't do it myself.

i agree the people who are ST holders and not attending dont have any effect on riddler, they may feel better in them selves but riddler already has there money

hopefully he wont be here long, hes clinging on but his finger nails, hoping we get promoted to claim his f*cking bonus

If he goes , can he still claim his bonus ? Or part of it ? He'll know all the angles , his aim is to make money for himself so he'll have it covered. Or is that why I read somewhere his contract was being scrutinised by lawyers ?

I think the family stand does account for a large number of the MIA's.

It is also worth considering that season tickets are good value as they work out at something like £14 a game. Walk up is £27 a game so in theory you can miss nearly 50% of games and still be no worse off!

With the change in working patterns coupled with early and late kick-off times some fans obviously think its worth buying a season ticket and then choosing their games.

Personally I would consider that a successful policy rather than one that needs change.

Last season I would hand my ticket over to a friend if I was not attending the game. This season I have been reluctant to do that with my card for reasons mentioned above. Even so it is against club policy to give your card to someone else as it was last season to hand your ticket over. I feel this is a short sightedness of a club policy which needs to be looked at.

I think the club should have an incentive to allow them to sell your seat if you dont attend. For example if they sell your seat they give you a £10 voucher to spend in the club shop. This would make me make the effort to phone the club up and tell them I'm not coming. Without an incentive what season ticket holder is going to be bothered to tell the club?

I think the family stand does account for a large number of the MIA's.

It is also worth considering that season tickets are good value as they work out at something like £14 a game. Walk up is £27 a game so in theory you can miss nearly 50% of games and still be no worse off!

With the change in working patterns coupled with early and late kick-off times some fans obviously think its worth buying a season ticket and then choosing their games.

Personally I would consider that a successful policy rather than one that needs change.

As you know , my working pattern was changed and I can't make mid-week games (altho I've now got it sorted for play-off home game). BUT , if I could only make some weekend games instead of all , then what would I do ? Missing midweek is ok , as my ST has been used , but if I had to miss some week-ends too then I'd have to re-evaluate. I'd probably still buy , to help club , to ensure I got my ticket and to be with with you and the others for games

I think the family stand does account for a large number of the MIA's.

It is also worth considering that season tickets are good value as they work out at something like £14 a game. Walk up is £27 a game so in theory you can miss nearly 50% of games and still be no worse off!

With the change in working patterns coupled with early and late kick-off times some fans obviously think its worth buying a season ticket and then choosing their games.

Personally I would consider that a successful policy rather than one that needs change.

As you know , my working pattern was changed and I can't make mid-week games (altho I've now got it sorted for play-off home game). BUT , if I could only make some weekend games instead of all , then what would I do ? Missing midweek is ok , as my ST has been used , but if I had to miss some week-ends too then I'd have to re-evaluate. I'd probably still buy , to help club , to ensure I got my ticket and to be with with you and the others for games

Are you going back on 4 on 4 off Gary? BTW good news about the play-off mate I think we will come down to Canton for the away leg?