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David Cameron

Tue May 11, 2010 7:57 pm

Has been in his job less than an hour and already a Scottish family have lost there home when the father lost his job. :ayatollah: :D :D :mrgreen:

Re: David Cameron

Tue May 11, 2010 8:02 pm

abf9 wrote:Has been in his job less than an hour and already a Scottish family have lost there home when the father lost his job. :ayatollah: :D :D :mrgreen:



:lol:

I thought his speech was excellent and if he sticks to his words then there is real hope (I didn't vote for him by the way), and am definately prepared to give him a chance.

Re: David Cameron

Tue May 11, 2010 8:17 pm

Lawnmower wrote:
abf9 wrote:Has been in his job less than an hour and already a Scottish family have lost there home when the father lost his job. :ayatollah: :D :D :mrgreen:



:lol:

I thought his speech was excellent and if he sticks to his words then there is real hope (I didn't vote for him by the way), and am definately prepared to give him a chance.


Hope your faith isn't miss-placed, it would be interesting to return to this thread in 12 months time?

Re: David Cameron

Tue May 11, 2010 8:20 pm

We don't have a choice except to give him a chance. I'm slightly, ever so slightly, comforted by the fact there are Liberal Democrats involved but I'm still anxious about a Conservative led government.

Re: David Cameron

Tue May 11, 2010 8:23 pm

Zabier wrote:We don't have a choice except to give him a chance. I'm slightly, ever so slightly, comforted by the fact there are Liberal Democrats involved but I'm still anxious about a Conservative led government.


I would sure prefer a Conservative Government which involved the LibDems than one which involved Maggie Thatcher that's for sure.

Re: David Cameron

Tue May 11, 2010 9:18 pm

It will not last long, I will give it one year than we will have another election which labour will be put back in power with David Milibank as pm

Re: David Cameron

Tue May 11, 2010 9:26 pm

doubt it wil last a year Frank Gallagher for PM :ayatollah: :D :D

Re: David Cameron

Tue May 11, 2010 9:31 pm

Zabier wrote:We don't have a choice except to give him a chance. I'm slightly, ever so slightly, comforted by the fact there are Liberal Democrats involved but I'm still anxious about a Conservative led government.


Exactly, the longer our country faced uncertainty the worse the markets were going to become.

We cannot head into a double dip recession, I am not a fan of the Conservatives but we need stability at the moment, let’s hope the economy recovers.

Re: David Cameron

Tue May 11, 2010 9:33 pm

chris_ccfc wrote:
Zabier wrote:We don't have a choice except to give him a chance. I'm slightly, ever so slightly, comforted by the fact there are Liberal Democrats involved but I'm still anxious about a Conservative led government.


Exactly, the longer our country faced uncertainty the worse the markets were going to become.

We cannot head into a double dip recession, I am not a fan of the Conservatives but we need stability at the moment, let’s hope the economy recovers.

Interest rates will rise and my 20 quid a week tax credits will disappear.

Cameron is not to be trusted.

Re: David Cameron

Tue May 11, 2010 9:48 pm

Who knows how he will perform but this week several major investment companies were warning that a some sort of government needed to be formed quickly as the market was taking a drastic downward spiral with all the uncertainty.

We might not like it but it’s better than us slipping back into recession. No doubt I will be hit in the pocket, and they won’t make it any easier for me to buy my first house, but life goes on.

Re: David Cameron

Tue May 11, 2010 10:58 pm

wayne wrote:It will not last long, I will give it one year than we will have another election which labour will be put back in power with David Milibank as pm


Labour?

Allah strike me dead.

I've spent the best, most rewarding part of my career (a word I totally detest, its a fuckin job) helping the water and wastewater treatment "departments" of former socialist governments out of the crap, litteraly (sp). The left wing twats want a society dropped to their level, ain't gona happen mate, those that have had 40 - 50 years of socialism want to get up the ladder, make a life for themselves not sit on their on their arses.

Apologies Wayne, I should direct this more to the herbets on MM's board, but name me one "black" (that is a horible word to use to describe a fellow human being) person that complains about racsism, name me one working class person, a genuine working class person that is anywhere near a civil service, government job and I'll show you, maybe a middle class fool, an upper class toff with no brain, just a fanny and I'll give you your labour party.

Thatcher didn't destroy the working class, she gave us the opportunity some of us took it. I think it was Tebbit that said get on your bike, look for work, look at yourself and think what can you do. Brown, a university educated middle class, spoon in the gob shite, former Chancellor of the Exchequer, then Prime Minister led this country into a bigger pile of shit than we've ever faced.

We and I mean we have around 3 million young lads that have made the ultimate sacrifice that are burried on the the French/Belgium border. Some have propper graves, most were blown into small pieces others, who knows.

We on the so called fascist right wing of pathetic british society are actively campaigning to bring the boys back home. I didn't see any mention in any political party manifesto to contribute to the now "archaelogical" sites.

Harry Patch.

Re: David Cameron

Tue May 11, 2010 11:17 pm

Willy the Wombat aka Harry Patch, self congratulatory horse shit, why do you feel the need to rewrite the history books!!!!

Yer man now has the keys, simmer down and let's all see what happens. :ayatollah:

Re: David Cameron

Wed May 12, 2010 8:52 am

f**k knows what willy womabt is on

I think hes just pissed off his tory boys didnt get a clear majority and we have a watered down liberal tory govt

Re: David Cameron

Wed May 12, 2010 9:12 am

As opposed to unelected Brown with unelected Campbell and Mandelson really pulling the strings...

Seriously, Sludge, Brown wasn't even elected Labour leader. Cozy deal causing other candidates to pull out.

Hardly democracy in action, is it?

And again, the whole "Brown can't resign" bit was bogus - he resigned before a Tory/Lib Dem package was fully agreed. Naked power grab.

Labour party will now descned into the usual backbiting chaos... Harriet Harperson as interim leader... eeek. Various factions will now in fight, unions will kick off as they want the harder left re-established giving them more power. Could be damaging.

What are your thoughts on the cabinet lineup? Thing it looks quite good myself, especially getting Cable, Hague involved. Worst case scenario would be the rise of the hard left again, making Labour unelectable, with the coalition in power doing well.

The thing people are missing about PR is more of these coalitions will naturally occur as first past the post weakened.

And to be fair, I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing.

Re: David Cameron

Wed May 12, 2010 10:01 am

I think the cabinet looks generally ok

apart from fox

should have had paddy ashdown

the hard left is finished

labour will regroup and appoint a " face " to woo over the middle class vote they lost

Re: David Cameron

Wed May 12, 2010 10:09 am

I agree the hard left is finished.

The problem is, they don't yet know it.

Backlash to brown's poor performance, may be emboldened and kick up a fuss, causing the usual Labour in fighting.

Could be a pretty brutal, punishing Labour leadership election, dirty linen, accusations, recriminations.

Think Ashdown is a spent force, to be honest.

As AV / PR comes in, if it does, problem is the traditional first past the post system dies, more of these coalitions will inevitably occur. A useful check and balance, I suppose.

Re: David Cameron

Wed May 12, 2010 10:10 am

Sludge wrote:I think the cabinet looks generally ok

apart from fox

should have had paddy ashdown

the hard left is finished

labour will regroup and appoint a " face " to woo over the middle class vote they lost

David Miliband I expect.

Re: David Cameron

Wed May 12, 2010 11:08 am

Lawnmower wrote:
abf9 wrote:Has been in his job less than an hour and already a Scottish family have lost there home when the father lost his job. :ayatollah: :D :D :mrgreen:



:lol:

I thought his speech was excellent and if he sticks to his words then there is real hope (I didn't vote for him by the way), and am definately prepared to give him a chance.


he is a smarmy twonk who knows nothing about real life. He will look after his chums and the old boy network will be buzzing this morning. Lets hope Clegg has the bollocks to stop the worst of it or has he been bought off with promises of riches.

Look out Wales and Sciotland the public sector that many of us rely on for work and services will be under immediate attack. False economy of the tories will be disaster for many people but as long as the share prices go up they wont be that bothered.

Have they let that even bigger twonk Osborne loose at the Treasury? If so god help us.

Re: David Cameron

Wed May 12, 2010 11:11 am

Willy the Wombat wrote:
wayne wrote:It will not last long, I will give it one year than we will have another election which labour will be put back in power with David Milibank as pm


Labour?

Allah strike me dead.

I've spent the best, most rewarding part of my career (a word I totally detest, its a fuckin job) helping the water and wastewater treatment "departments" of former socialist governments out of the crap, litteraly (sp). The left wing twats want a society dropped to their level, ain't gona happen mate, those that have had 40 - 50 years of socialism want to get up the ladder, make a life for themselves not sit on their on their arses.

Apologies Wayne, I should direct this more to the herbets on MM's board, but name me one "black" (that is a horible word to use to describe a fellow human being) person that complains about racsism, name me one working class person, a genuine working class person that is anywhere near a civil service, government job and I'll show you, maybe a middle class fool, an upper class toff with no brain, just a fanny and I'll give you your labour party.

Thatcher didn't destroy the working class, she gave us the opportunity some of us took it. I think it was Tebbit that said get on your bike, look for work, look at yourself and think what can you do. Brown, a university educated middle class, spoon in the gob shite, former Chancellor of the Exchequer, then Prime Minister led this country into a bigger pile of shit than we've ever faced.

We and I mean we have around 3 million young lads that have made the ultimate sacrifice that are burried on the the French/Belgium border. Some have propper graves, most were blown into small pieces others, who knows.

We on the so called fascist right wing of pathetic british society are actively campaigning to bring the boys back home. I didn't see any mention in any political party manifesto to contribute to the now "archaelogical" sites.

Harry Patch.


i would like to think i am from a working class background. Both my Grandfathers were miners and my parents were born and bred in the Valleys. Just cos my dad went to Grammar school and decided against the pit does not make him a toff.

Re: David Cameron

Wed May 12, 2010 11:19 am

squashed grapes wrote:i would like to think i am from a working class background. Both my Grandfathers were miners and my parents were born and bred in the Valleys. Just cos my dad went to Grammar school and decided against the pit does not make him a toff.


Think or are? "Working class or toff"? What outdated dogma.

The class war is utterly irrelevant these days.

Put it this way, grew up in an area of Cardiff that would count to those who claim such things "middle class". Father was self employed in manual labour "working class".

I run my own company in the IT industry "middle class", went to Uni "no doubt a toff".

Using generalisation of "class" is quite frankly barking these days. Society has moved on, those clinging to such irrelevant stereotypes need to accept they are utterly meaningless these days and should ask themselves why they cling to such labels...

Re: David Cameron

Wed May 12, 2010 11:19 am

Before with all the taxes david cameron is fetching in now, we'll all be paying taxes for season tickets next year lol :old: