"THE BOOK THATS BANNED"

"THE RISE and FALL OF THE CARDIFF CITY VALLEY RAMS" Now Available £6.99p(FREE p&p) Was £9.99p .

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THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF MY BOOK
by BigGwynram » Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:51 pm

Mad ain't it, if ever there was a book that was against hooliganism, this is it. Someone has commneted about the cover, just shows how ignorant and short sighted they are, the thought behind the cover is to show how far we come. it shows the violence that had blighetd the club and then shows the Police holding up a valley Rams flag with broad smiles on their faces.

As a group we new that for our club to move forward we had to change things, and change them we did, during our existence, the arrest figures showed record falls year on year, since wehave folded the figures have increased again year on year.

The foreword in my book is written by Doctor Cliif Stoot is the most emminent academic involved in Football studies and he still uses our history and experiences at the Rams in all his lectures related to football matters.
I was asked to speak to 300 senior Police match commanders at Liverpool Uni about what we had acheived, does all this sound like a glorification of hooliganism.

I am proud of what the Rams helped to acheive and to have it dismissed in this way is like a kick in the bollocks.

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by Marc » Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:57 pm

Started reading at one o'clock today and finished about an hour ago (says it all really), an excellent read and what I liked the most was the Authors honesty, he could have "Bigged" Cardiff and the fans up as Invincible, butter wouldn't melt etc, but just told it as it was, I don't envy him for organising all those coaches and dealing with some of the bullshit that went on though
The only negative for me was that I didn't wan't the book to end!
A big thankyou and congratulations to Gwyn for writing this insightful book.

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DENYING OUR HISTORY
by BigGwynram » Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:53 pm

Why deny history, my book does not glorify or condone hooliganism, in fact it shows that we the fans recognised we had a problem and new that if we wanted to progress as a club we would have to do something ourselves to change things.

I would often say that the way to reduce hoolganism was to make people feel a part of "THEIR" club and take some resposibility rather than maintain a them and us situation that had existed so many times before. In the days gone by the more restrictions or heavy handed we were treated the worse we would react.

Many people had the vision of the RAMS as drunken marauding hordes, well we never set out to change peoples drinking habits or life style, we are just fellow fans not the thought police.

What we tried to emphasise was that the vast majority of Cardiff fans didn't wake up on the morning of the match planning to have a punch up or riot, they did plan to have a good drink, so wasn't it better to facilitate that, keep everyone together, find them suitable pubs near the ground and limit the possibility of serious disorder, which was simple and worked well until after reducing the serious disorder instead of aknoweldging how far we'd come and help stop serious problems, it was then a case of O.K. we've stopped the problems so now we can stop the drinking.

Well do you think the situation at Chelsea will do us more harm than having a reputation for being a load of drunks (but friendly drunks if treated properly) Scottish fans are seen as in the main a load of drunks, but not seen as trouble makers unless provoked, is that such a bad thing.

Rather than deny our history, isn't it better to aknowledge it and show how far we have come, pretending it didn't happen doesn't mean that it didn't happen.



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Annis this is like God save the queen by the pistols and Frankie's relax!

The book they banned !!

Annis this is like God save the queen by the pistols and Frankie's relax!

The book they banned !!

Wouldnt mind getting their publicity would We Gwyn

The Trust asked Gethin Jenkins on the 15th October the following

Removal of supporters books from the club shop

You asked us to find out why books written by supporters had been removed from the club shop. The book had actually sold out and the club decided that it did not want to restock this book as it did not feel it appropriate for a club shop.

My Reply.
Well How come I Had to pick up 4 SACKS OF BOOKS FROM THEIR and THE NEWS PAPER PRINTED THAT(Porkies FROM GETHIN JENKINS).Tut tut.

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The book has been banned because Gethin Jenkins belives it gloryfies hooliganism, anyone who has read the book will know its not.

The police back the book why doesn't the club?!
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Ian Sheppard I have known Gwyn for many years and I have to say he is no thug.He is a Bluebird through and through and I remember when he used to take Beefy with him (RIP Beef).The Guy is a Gent; and I would of thought that club would take any pennies they can get at present.
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Seán Flynn Nuff respect from a 'London Irish' Ram
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Andrew Riste i have followed the bluebirds up and down the country for 15 years and met big gwyn many many times and i must say he is an absolute gent, never once has he come across as a hooligan, i am disgusted by the way this book has been judged without being read !
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Kendal Eckley I hate this nanny state we're living in,as an adult I'd like to make up my own mind what book I'd like to read thanks.Other books like "Rise of the foot soldier"and the "Football factory" were'nt banned.
11 June at 21:34 · Comment · Like · Flag

Maria Williams I read this book in one day whilst on holiday. I laughed out loud at loads of it... its one o fthe funniest books i've read. I don't think it glorifies hooliganism at all... its more about the lads going to watch the footy and have a good time.... This ban is pathetic!!!
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Kyle Rose I don't like the sound of this gethin Jenkins hasn't got a clue about football
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Mark Lewis BEST FOOTBALL BOOK IN YEARS CHEERS BIG GWYN
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Neil Hume Great history the rams
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Melanie Richard Egg chasing gimp!!!!
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Dai Taxi i knew this shit would happen when they started employing eggchasers what next dai young taking over from dave jones why dont u read the book first muppet before you make judgement
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Asim Khan Gethin needs to realise, never judge a book by its cover!!!! congratulations Gwyn on publishing the book, hope the ban gets lifted and common sence prevails!!! its the fans who make up the club!
09 June at 14:37 · Comment · Like · Flag

Paul Everett very good book gwyn and some great memories!
09 June at 10:23 · Comment · Like · Flag

Mark Thorpe Not a cardiff fan but your exploits have travelled far and wide all football fans who understand how we have moved forward and the camaraderie should read it the guy must be a rugby fan
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Jonathan Owen I loved this book...and Gwyn Davies has Cardiff City written right through him. The guy should get a season ticket for life.
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Dean Royall it was a great read, i had some wonderful times on corkey and boneheads bue.









Mark Hodges great read gwyn, great memories!!
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Dai Camera Mr Jenkins,Please read the book first before making rash judgements.
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Richard Williams To ban your book from the club shop is just ignorance gwyn imho, as a club we have had problems but this action will only serve to alienate fans rather than embrace the problem and solve it.
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Richard Jeffery On the face of it not a good early move by our new CEO. I have had the privilege of knowing Gwyn for a few years now and he is a true gentleman and City supporter through and through. Valley Rams were of enormous support to us when we were getting Bluebirds DownUnder up and running. Suggest Mr Jenkins gives the book ...
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Ronnie Barker the book is a true account of the valley rams and in no way does it commend football
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all it tells is the truth and is a very good book
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Christian FrreStyle Te apoyo amigo
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Neil Hume Got my support
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Dean Winston gwyn and the rams should be praised for the support given 2 the city in the past and still now,any1 who has read the book will know that it does not glorify hooliganism,the eggchaser has got it all wrong
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Carl Price The guy clearly hasn't a clue and pehaps he should have stayed at Rodney parade. The book is without doubt a class read and brings back some good memories.
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The next question Mr Jenkins should be asked is "exactly why is the book about The Rise and Fall of the valley RAMS deemed 'inappropriate' for the club shop?"

It seems to me he has plucked this expression out of the air, without giving a proper explanation. It would be very interesting to know why the book is 'inappropriate' without us having to make assumptions.

Finally the stock issue is a complete red herring and frankly an insult to our intelligence if the CEO thinks we are swallowing that one.

The next question Mr Jenkins should be asked is "exactly why is the book about The Rise and Fall of the valley RAMS deemed 'inappropriate' for the club shop?"

It seems to me he has plucked this expression out of the air, without giving a proper explanation. It would be very interesting to know why the book is 'inappropriate' without us having to make assumptions.

Finally the stock issue is a complete red herring and frankly an insult to our intelligence if the CEO thinks we are swallowing that one.

I cant agree more with you Tony

"THE RISE and FALL OF THE CARDIFF CITY VALLEY RAMS" Now Available £6.99p(FREE p&p) Was £9.99p .

Link here http://www.annisabraham.co.uk/books/buy-books/

Support The Author Big Gwyn Davies Sign up here http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=109865819060422

What The South Wales Echo had to say http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales ... -26631267/



THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF MY BOOK
by BigGwynram » Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:51 pm

Mad ain't it, if ever there was a book that was against hooliganism, this is it. Someone has commneted about the cover, just shows how ignorant and short sighted they are, the thought behind the cover is to show how far we come. it shows the violence that had blighetd the club and then shows the Police holding up a valley Rams flag with broad smiles on their faces.

As a group we new that for our club to move forward we had to change things, and change them we did, during our existence, the arrest figures showed record falls year on year, since wehave folded the figures have increased again year on year.

The foreword in my book is written by Doctor Cliif Stoot is the most emminent academic involved in Football studies and he still uses our history and experiences at the Rams in all his lectures related to football matters.
I was asked to speak to 300 senior Police match commanders at Liverpool Uni about what we had acheived, does all this sound like a glorification of hooliganism.

I am proud of what the Rams helped to acheive and to have it dismissed in this way is like a kick in the bollocks.

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by Marc » Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:57 pm

Started reading at one o'clock today and finished about an hour ago (says it all really), an excellent read and what I liked the most was the Authors honesty, he could have "Bigged" Cardiff and the fans up as Invincible, butter wouldn't melt etc, but just told it as it was, I don't envy him for organising all those coaches and dealing with some of the bullshit that went on though
The only negative for me was that I didn't wan't the book to end!
A big thankyou and congratulations to Gwyn for writing this insightful book.

http://www.annisabraham.co.uk/books/buy-books/


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DENYING OUR HISTORY
by BigGwynram » Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:53 pm

Why deny history, my book does not glorify or condone hooliganism, in fact it shows that we the fans recognised we had a problem and new that if we wanted to progress as a club we would have to do something ourselves to change things.

I would often say that the way to reduce hoolganism was to make people feel a part of "THEIR" club and take some resposibility rather than maintain a them and us situation that had existed so many times before. In the days gone by the more restrictions or heavy handed we were treated the worse we would react.

Many people had the vision of the RAMS as drunken marauding hordes, well we never set out to change peoples drinking habits or life style, we are just fellow fans not the thought police.

What we tried to emphasise was that the vast majority of Cardiff fans didn't wake up on the morning of the match planning to have a punch up or riot, they did plan to have a good drink, so wasn't it better to facilitate that, keep everyone together, find them suitable pubs near the ground and limit the possibility of serious disorder, which was simple and worked well until after reducing the serious disorder instead of aknoweldging how far we'd come and help stop serious problems, it was then a case of O.K. we've stopped the problems so now we can stop the drinking.

Well do you think the situation at Chelsea will do us more harm than having a reputation for being a load of drunks (but friendly drunks if treated properly) Scottish fans are seen as in the main a load of drunks, but not seen as trouble makers unless provoked, is that such a bad thing.

Rather than deny our history, isn't it better to aknowledge it and show how far we have come, pretending it didn't happen doesn't mean that it didn't happen.



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"THE RISE and FALL OF THE CARDIFF CITY VALLEY RAMS" Now Available £6.99p(FREE p&p) Was £9.99p .

Link here http://www.annisabraham.co.uk/books/buy-books/

Support The Author Big Gwyn Davies Sign up here http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=109865819060422

What The South Wales Echo had to say http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales ... -26631267/



THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF MY BOOK
by BigGwynram » Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:51 pm

Mad ain't it, if ever there was a book that was against hooliganism, this is it. Someone has commneted about the cover, just shows how ignorant and short sighted they are, the thought behind the cover is to show how far we come. it shows the violence that had blighetd the club and then shows the Police holding up a valley Rams flag with broad smiles on their faces.

As a group we new that for our club to move forward we had to change things, and change them we did, during our existence, the arrest figures showed record falls year on year, since wehave folded the figures have increased again year on year.

The foreword in my book is written by Doctor Cliif Stoot is the most emminent academic involved in Football studies and he still uses our history and experiences at the Rams in all his lectures related to football matters.
I was asked to speak to 300 senior Police match commanders at Liverpool Uni about what we had acheived, does all this sound like a glorification of hooliganism.

I am proud of what the Rams helped to acheive and to have it dismissed in this way is like a kick in the bollocks.

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by Marc » Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:57 pm

Started reading at one o'clock today and finished about an hour ago (says it all really), an excellent read and what I liked the most was the Authors honesty, he could have "Bigged" Cardiff and the fans up as Invincible, butter wouldn't melt etc, but just told it as it was, I don't envy him for organising all those coaches and dealing with some of the bullshit that went on though
The only negative for me was that I didn't wan't the book to end!
A big thankyou and congratulations to Gwyn for writing this insightful book.

http://www.annisabraham.co.uk/books/buy-books/


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DENYING OUR HISTORY
by BigGwynram » Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:53 pm

Why deny history, my book does not glorify or condone hooliganism, in fact it shows that we the fans recognised we had a problem and new that if we wanted to progress as a club we would have to do something ourselves to change things.

I would often say that the way to reduce hoolganism was to make people feel a part of "THEIR" club and take some resposibility rather than maintain a them and us situation that had existed so many times before. In the days gone by the more restrictions or heavy handed we were treated the worse we would react.

Many people had the vision of the RAMS as drunken marauding hordes, well we never set out to change peoples drinking habits or life style, we are just fellow fans not the thought police.

What we tried to emphasise was that the vast majority of Cardiff fans didn't wake up on the morning of the match planning to have a punch up or riot, they did plan to have a good drink, so wasn't it better to facilitate that, keep everyone together, find them suitable pubs near the ground and limit the possibility of serious disorder, which was simple and worked well until after reducing the serious disorder instead of aknoweldging how far we'd come and help stop serious problems, it was then a case of O.K. we've stopped the problems so now we can stop the drinking.

Well do you think the situation at Chelsea will do us more harm than having a reputation for being a load of drunks (but friendly drunks if treated properly) Scottish fans are seen as in the main a load of drunks, but not seen as trouble makers unless provoked, is that such a bad thing.

Rather than deny our history, isn't it better to aknowledge it and show how far we have come, pretending it didn't happen doesn't mean that it didn't happen.



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Brilliant read Gwyn

The facebook group supporting it has just under 700 members, if we could reach 1000 it would be great

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=1 ... 422&ref=ts

The facebook group supporting it has just under 700 members, if we could reach 1000 it would be great

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=1 ... 422&ref=ts

Thomas I heard you have been working hard for Cheggers

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just bought one ready for the holidays!! happy days

just bought one ready for the holidays!! happy days

Cheers Steve, Will post tomorrow am, Its a Great Read

sorry i bought 3 !!!!

The facebook group supporting it has just under 700 members, if we could reach 1000 it would be great

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=1 ... 422&ref=ts

Thomas I heard you have been working hard for Cheggers

Finished the book yesterday and thought it was excellent. Great memories from Gwyn , and a superb story of trying to help restore our clubs image.

I've started Diary 2 today , I hope I enjoy it just as much.

Finished the book yesterday and thought it was excellent. Great memories from Gwyn , and a superb story of trying to help restore our clubs image.

I've started Diary 2 today , I hope I enjoy it just as much.

Gwyn are you reading

Cheers Gareth

sorry i bought 3 !!!!

great read