HOW MUCH LONGER TO PUT UP WITH THE MORIBUND DINOSAUR, JONES?

Listening to the CCFC iPlayer commentary of today's game at Peterborough crystalised why Peter Ridsdale MUST get rid of our present manager NOW. With him in charge I simply can't see how we will ever get promotion. To keep him and still get promotion will need an absolute miracle.

As I have posted many times before, the man has my absolute respect in coming through the awful, unfounded court case that would have ended most people. However, as a football manager the man has now become an abject liability. I have no delight in writing this; it is merely my observations of watching football over 50 years and studying his modus operandi during his spell in charge at CCFC.

Let’s be honest. Its easy being a manager when your team is winning but great managers manage to get victories from the most unlikely of situations. Great managers have a perceptive mind as sharp as a knife in dissecting what’s happening on the pitch, know how to rectify that situation and a ruthless streak in putting it right. Wenger, Mourhino, Ferguson, Ancelotti etc are professors in this respect. Meanwhile we have the prison that is 4-4-2, the continual selection of players who haven’t played well in months, poor man-management (remember: Alexander and Thompson etc) and abysmal motivational skills. His stubbornness and unteachability are now legendary amongst City followers.

Sure its easy when things are easy but good managers, like cream, come to the surface in hot times. Time and time again in the big games Jones’ tactics cause us an uphill fight before the first ball is kicked. Remember the F A Cup Final (where was Ramsey ? why didn’t Thommo play instead of Hasselbaink?), the Swansea C games and many others show this is a repeating trend.

In short, any outfit that somehow manages to score the first goal against us; any side that adopts a somewhat physical game-plan; or any side that dares to play 4-5-1 against us and its as good as saying, “Bye, bye 3 points.” Jones simply has no comprehension of how to respond to these basic movements of the oppositions’ pawns. His, reaction, to defeat, “You haven’t played the game professionally so shut up! … [SP … I have and I do know!]” is condescending and arrogant in the extreme. I guess he’d say the same thing to Wenger and Mourinho (who only played 12 pro games between them). What a cheek. Anyone with an analytical brain and ideas has more to offer than the Jones’ approach.

Some will say that we can’t afford to get rid of the manager. I will still say that we can’t afford to keep him! He must go and go now.

StT.

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Last edited by Steve the Tea TM (c) on Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:25 am, edited 1 time in total.

Good post i totaly agree with you.

Here here agree with every word

well said steve

Here here agree with every word

Ditto I agree with everything to.

He will not walk and ridders will not sack him so he will be withus untill the end of the season.

Agree'd Steve, good post. But Jones will be here till the end of the season, and we will finish 8th, just below the Jacks, Ridsdale will leave, and so will Jones.

I've posted my thoughts in a separate post so I'm not going to say anything other than totally agree mate.

Fantastic post Steve

totally agree with you steve,dave jones has not got a plan B when the shit starts hitting the fan.Go now I say he"s taken us as far as he can.

that is the best post i have ever read on a message board, you have it spot on, it is plain he did not like thompson and i dont think he likes mccormack, well i wont go on, you just got it right

Like i said - use £700,000 of the income from the early season ticket sales and pay the prat off ffs!

Great Post Steve and Totally Agree.

he should go but we cant afford too,wed have to pay him off,pay his staff off,pay for new manager,and he ll want his own staff.not going to happen.

Listening to the CCFC iPlayer commentary of today's game at Peterborough crystalised why Peter Ridsdale MUST get rid of our present manager NOW. With him in charge I simply can't see how we will ever get promotion. To keep him and still get promotion will need an absolute miracle.

As I have posted many times before, the man has my absolute respect in coming through the awful, unfounded court case that would have ended most people. However, as a football manager the man has now become an abject liability. I have no delight in writing this; it is merely my observations of watching football over 50 years and studying his modus operandi during his spell in charge at CCFC.

Let’s be honest. Its easy being a manager when your team is winning but great managers manage to get victories from the most unlikely of situations. Great managers have a perceptive mind as sharp as a knife in dissecting what’s happening on the pitch, know how to rectify that situation and a ruthless streak in putting it right. Wenger, Mourhino, Ferguson, Ancelotti etc are professors in this respect. Meanwhile we have the prison that is 4-4-2, the continual selection of players who haven’t played well in months, poor man-management (remember: Alexander and Thompson etc) and abysmal motivational skills. His stubbornness and unteachability are now legendary amongst City followers.

Sure its easy when things are easy but good managers, like cream, come to the surface in hot times. Time and time again in the big games Jones’ tactics cause us an uphill fight before the first ball is kicked. Remember the F A Cup Final (where was Ramsey ? why didn’t Thommo play instead of Hasselbaink?), the Swansea C games and many others show this is a repeating trend.

In short, any outfit that somehow manages to score the first goal against us; any side that adopts a somewhat physical game-plan; or any side that dares to play 4-5-1 against us and its as good as saying, “Bye, bye 3 points.” Jones simply has no comprehension of how to respond to these basic movements of the oppositions’ pawns. His, reaction, to defeat, “You haven’t played the game professionally so shut up! … [SP … I have and I do know!]” is condescending and arrogant in the extreme. I guess he’d say the same thing to Wenger and Mourinho (who only played 12 pro games between them). What a cheek. Anyone with an analytical brain and ideas has more to offer than the Jones’ approach.

Some will say that we can’t afford to get rid of the manager. I will still say that we can’t afford to keep him! He must go and go now.

StT.

So the dust has settled on the London Road fiasco that was supposed to be a football match between a relegation-bound Peterbro and an aspiring Cardiff City team but I dare say that both the anger over that performance and demand for action from Peter Ridsdale has not receded amongst City fans. For I don't know how many times in his reign DJ, when cornered by hacks, his last throw of the dice is as predictable as his 4-4-2 formation: "The players this ..." "They didn't that ..." You can't distance yourself from your troops. Imagine Montgomery during WWII saying such. You know I still haven't watched my copy of the Stoke (h) Play-Off defeat yet and I think it will be as long a time before I muster the resources to watch Dave's after-match comments from Monday.

I don't wish to say I told you so, but for a number of years my views on Mr Jones,the manager, have not changed. What has is that there is now such a ground swell of opinion against our present leader that unless Mr Ridsdale takes decisive action, and soon, then any further iffy results will make DJs' position completely and utterly untenable and, sadly, an open revolt from the fans could follow. This I would not wish upon DJ for even he deserves to be treated with dignity, particularly after the shocking events he and his family have had to come through in their private lives.

Decisive action can still be done with dignity. Jonsey has done well, in very difficult times, but, I believe, he has taken us as far as he can. For that what he has done I say,and PR needs to say, "Thank you Dave, I appreciate everything you have done for this Club but the time has come for fresh ideas."

So where does that leave Cardiff City FC? Some say Mark Hughes but he, too, hit his peak after the victory over Italy and, high and dry in his own prison of 4-5-1, was found wanting on the international stage. Who can forget when losing to Russia, in a match we needed to win, he brought on Earnshaw but consigned him to play on the right in an unchanging 5-man midfield. Managers in their fifties are not for me; they think everything is as it was 20 years ago. But the game has moved on! For this reason Curbishley and Coppell are not for me either. Alex Ferguson, and only a few others, keep that hunger for victory alive in their latter years. We need a hungry young man who is not affraid to stand up to some of our prima-donas. Whether that means a 40-something manager in his own right or a 30-something track-suited eager beaver with an older head as his Number 2 I don't know. But this Club, these players need new ideas. Dave Jones, sadly, is not the person who can deliver that.

StT.