Cardiff City Forum



A forum for all things Cardiff City

DISGUSTING!

Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:32 am

I literally cannot believe what I am reading about Sam Hammam returning. And subsequently the influence of people on this board on the way our football club is and will be run. Sam Hammam nearly killed this club on more than one occassion, and the true City people like Dave Jones have been battling against him and his actions since he took over.

To be honest I don't give a flying F*** which of you have "personal" friendships with him, or what drum he banged to get you to follow him blindly (something you seem to be continueing to do!). You are the same people that ultimately made it impossible for me to go and watch Cardiff City away at many London games (during my time living there) because of your reputations and actions which meant trips were strictly bus and ticket only.

All I want is a normal club to support and just because a few want to be on the pathetic "inner circle" its impossible.

If Sam Hammam returns then that will signal the end of my City days I am afraid.

Re: DISGUSTING!

Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:36 am

Ridsdale was a milion times worst for CCFC than Sam was but we saw him off and the Club survived just , Sam is coming back in a totally new role with money to invest and he is key to reducing the Langston debt . At the time of black Friday and the initial Langston issue I was NOT a fan of Sam but my opinion has changed after finding out the truth and the facts over many things ....................... as far as Im concerned now he cant come back quick enough altho Im a bit pissed off with Riddler's involvement tho :ayatollah:

Re: DISGUSTING!

Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:39 am

SAM HAMMAM brought Ridsdale in!!!!!!!!!!

Jesus christ wtf is going on

Re: DISGUSTING!

Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:43 am

Spartikus47 wrote:SAM HAMMAM brought Ridsdale in!!!!!!!!!!

Jesus christ wtf is going on


yeah and Ridsdale took the ultimate piss after Sam left , give Sam a chance coz all he wants to do is invest into CCFC and help reduce the Langston debt . Also Sam is a football man with football contacts and thats what is very mucj needed at the mo as the current board / management at CCFC are totally rugby biased :ayatollah:

Re: DISGUSTING!

Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:55 am

Sam and Langton could have and still could make life very difficult for our club if they wanted to play hardball. But instead he is looking to come back and help the club. Putting your head on the chopping block again at his age and knowing that some fans are going to give you a hard time shows me that Sam still loves our club unlike some people on the board!

I for one will be welcoming Sam Back :ayatollah:

Re: DISGUSTING!

Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:00 am

Spartic, I cant even be bothered to answer your comments are they are totally wrong and there is no Substance to it whats so ever.

Re: DISGUSTING!

Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:21 am

Annis all I want is a stable, hooligan free, financially sound club who I can go and support. Could you tel me what is wrong with that? I am not a fly by night supporter but I may not be "in the know" like yourself. I am just commenting on things as I see them

As I see it Sam Hammam is responsible (multiple times) for putting my aspiration for my club at risk.

You do not have to justify your reasons for supporting Cardiff City, nor should you.

However, is it not true we are in all this debt because of Sam Hammam (directly and indirectly). Just because I am not prepared to welcome him back with open arms. He embraced the hooligan element of our club, allbeit I don't think he truly understood what he was doing in that respect.

We have many fantastic fans (80%+), but too many morons spoiling it. Please do not take this as tarring you with this brush, but it is when other fans actions affect how I am allowed to support my team that it starts taking the piss.

For me Sam Hammam took us to the brink in more than one respect and represents a Cardiff City I want nothing to do with.

Re: DISGUSTING!

Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:43 am

Spartikus47 wrote:Annis all I want is a stable, hooligan free, financially sound club who I can go and support. Could you tel me what is wrong with that? I am not a fly by night supporter but I may not be "in the know" like yourself. I am just commenting on things as I see them

As I see it Sam Hammam is responsible (multiple times) for putting my aspiration for my club at risk.

You do not have to justify your reasons for supporting Cardiff City, nor should you.

However, is it not true we are in all this debt because of Sam Hammam (directly and indirectly). Just because I am not prepared to welcome him back with open arms. He embraced the hooligan element of our club, allbeit I don't think he truly understood what he was doing in that respect.

We have many fantastic fans (80%+), but too many morons spoiling it. Please do not take this as tarring you with this brush, but it is when other fans actions affect how I am allowed to support my team that it starts taking the piss.

For me Sam Hammam took us to the brink in more than one respect and represents a Cardiff City I want nothing to do with.

without sounding like i am sniping.
would you rather the club is put into admin ( a possiblity if tg & vt want to force pmg out )
or would you rather sam back for exchange of debt into shares with no access or control over financial matters ( sam himself has said he wants niether )
you seem to be stuck in a time warp the club has some hooligan element ,the same as any other club, but by no means does sam promote or condone it.
you should be thankful we have a club to supoort and that sam is willing to convert the debt.
if i was sam and been through what he has, abuse over langston, failed to be paid anything off the £24m, having £24m reduced to £15, and more importantly SERIOUS ILL HEALTH, i don't think i would entertain the thought of returning.
my hat goes off to him and i would welcome him back wholeheartedly.
if you feel that you cannot continue to watch the club if sam comes back then tough, we need sam, we want sam and sam wants us.
:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:
WELCOME BACK SAM, YOU ARE STILL WANTED MY THE MAJORITY OF THE REAL FANS

Re: DISGUSTING!

Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:46 am

most people seem to forget, it was sam who took us on when we were in div 4, now if he hadn't we wouldn't be in the championship conteding for a premier league spot, NO f.a cup final, no play off final, no swansea games, none of your big games, we wouldn't have a stadium and we would still be in that div, or even worse lower down, teams like portsmouth and even ipswich town would have been a dream :lol:


we all got carried away with it at the time

Re: DISGUSTING!

Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:49 am

So by expressing an opinion which contradicts yours I am now not a real fan?

I haven't criticised anybody directly, and tried to put across my point in a constructive manner. I have spent the money and put the time on the terraces like all of you.

Re: DISGUSTING!

Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:58 am

Jamie regarding your post and the hooligan issue I for 1 have NOT seen 1 single statement or comment from either Roman Abramavic or Chelsea FC about the FA Cup day incidents ................ if the 2nd biggest team in the Prem has hooligan issues then some people walk around blind to the fact that its gone away :ayatollah:

Re: DISGUSTING!

Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:28 am

jamccfc wrote:
Spartikus47 wrote:Annis all I want is a stable, hooligan free, financially sound club who I can go and support. Could you tel me what is wrong with that? I am not a fly by night supporter but I may not be "in the know" like yourself. I am just commenting on things as I see them

As I see it Sam Hammam is responsible (multiple times) for putting my aspiration for my club at risk.

You do not have to justify your reasons for supporting Cardiff City, nor should you.

However, is it not true we are in all this debt because of Sam Hammam (directly and indirectly). Just because I am not prepared to welcome him back with open arms. He embraced the hooligan element of our club, allbeit I don't think he truly understood what he was doing in that respect.

We have many fantastic fans (80%+), but too many morons spoiling it. Please do not take this as tarring you with this brush, but it is when other fans actions affect how I am allowed to support my team that it starts taking the piss.

For me Sam Hammam took us to the brink in more than one respect and represents a Cardiff City I want nothing to do with.

without sounding like i am sniping.
would you rather the club is put into admin ( a possiblity if tg & vt want to force pmg out )
or would you rather sam back for exchange of debt into shares with no access or control over financial matters ( sam himself has said he wants niether )
you seem to be stuck in a time warp the club has some hooligan element ,the same as any other club, but by no means does sam promote or condone it.
you should be thankful we have a club to supoort and that sam is willing to convert the debt.
if i was sam and been through what he has, abuse over langston, failed to be paid anything off the £24m, having £24m reduced to £15, and more importantly SERIOUS ILL HEALTH, i don't think i would entertain the thought of returning.
my hat goes off to him and i would welcome him back wholeheartedly.
if you feel that you cannot continue to watch the club if sam comes back then tough, we need sam, we want sam and sam wants us.
:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:
WELCOME BACK SAM, YOU ARE STILL WANTED MY THE MAJORITY OF THE REAL FANS




So the fans who don't want Sam back are not real fans? Grow up!

Re: DISGUSTING!

Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:32 am

Spartikus47 wrote:I literally cannot believe what I am reading about Sam Hammam returning. And subsequently the influence of people on this board on the way our football club is and will be run. Sam Hammam nearly killed this club on more than one occassion, and the true City people like Dave Jones have been battling against him and his actions since he took over.

To be honest I don't give a flying F*** which of you have "personal" friendships with him, or what drum he banged to get you to follow him blindly (something you seem to be continueing to do!). You are the same people that ultimately made it impossible for me to go and watch Cardiff City away at many London games (during my time living there) because of your reputations and actions which meant trips were strictly bus and ticket only.

All I want is a normal club to support and just because a few want to be on the pathetic "inner circle" its impossible.

If Sam Hammam returns then that will signal the end of my City days I am afraid.



Worrying times indeed for City. Sam didn't do anything for the fans. He just did things for his mates.

The appalling video of him made after the Leeds game should have spelled the end of him in football. Unfortunately not. Isn't it great......to have a man potentially coming back on the board who endorses hooliganism?! :shock:

Only at Cardiff. If this does happen, I will be embarrassed to be a Cardiff fan.

Re: DISGUSTING!

Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:45 am

The qoute ' Real fans ' was aimed at our Ceo.i was not having a go at anybody and apologise if some took it the wrong way. We are all city fans with different views.

Re: DISGUSTING!

Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:56 am

Forever Blue wrote:Spartic, I cant even be bothered to answer your comments are they are totally wrong and there is no Substance to it whats so ever.


With all due respect Annis you need to be careful about dissing someone's views. There are very many City fans who are filled with horror with the prospect of Sam having an influence at our club again.

Myself, I'm slightly on the fence. I love the passion that Sam will bring but I've said before that Black Friday was the worst day I've ever had as a City fan in 38/39 years of going down there, so I am slightly concerned.

We keep hearing that we haven't heard Sam's side of the story but who's fault is that ? If we knew that then we could make our own minds up.

I am slightly easier about this proposal if TG is still "in charge" but don't expect all fans to worship at the feet of Sam. He has some bridges to build. The High Court Judge was in no doubt that Sam is Langstone and therefore it was he who pushed us close to oblivion (having previously rescued us :roll: :lol: )and therefore fans need to know the full story.

One thing is for sure, it's going to be exciting and very interesting :lol: :ayatollah:

Re: DISGUSTING!

Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:13 am

TrecynonBlue wrote:
jamccfc wrote:
Spartikus47 wrote:Annis all I want is a stable, hooligan free, financially sound club who I can go and support. Could you tel me what is wrong with that? I am not a fly by night supporter but I may not be "in the know" like yourself. I am just commenting on things as I see them

As I see it Sam Hammam is responsible (multiple times) for putting my aspiration for my club at risk.

You do not have to justify your reasons for supporting Cardiff City, nor should you.

However, is it not true we are in all this debt because of Sam Hammam (directly and indirectly). Just because I am not prepared to welcome him back with open arms. He embraced the hooligan element of our club, allbeit I don't think he truly understood what he was doing in that respect.

We have many fantastic fans (80%+), but too many morons spoiling it. Please do not take this as tarring you with this brush, but it is when other fans actions affect how I am allowed to support my team that it starts taking the piss.

For me Sam Hammam took us to the brink in more than one respect and represents a Cardiff City I want nothing to do with.

without sounding like i am sniping.
would you rather the club is put into admin ( a possiblity if tg & vt want to force pmg out )
or would you rather sam back for exchange of debt into shares with no access or control over financial matters ( sam himself has said he wants niether )
you seem to be stuck in a time warp the club has some hooligan element ,the same as any other club, but by no means does sam promote or condone it.
you should be thankful we have a club to supoort and that sam is willing to convert the debt.
if i was sam and been through what he has, abuse over langston, failed to be paid anything off the £24m, having £24m reduced to £15, and more importantly SERIOUS ILL HEALTH, i don't think i would entertain the thought of returning.
my hat goes off to him and i would welcome him back wholeheartedly.
if you feel that you cannot continue to watch the club if sam comes back then tough, we need sam, we want sam and sam wants us.
:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:
WELCOME BACK SAM, YOU ARE STILL WANTED MY THE MAJORITY OF THE REAL FANS




So the fans who don't want Sam back are not real fans? Grow up!



spot on

back to the old days of if you dare to critisise sam , you are not a real fan

does anyone want to see my programmes from 1975 ?

we didnt sell many in those days !!!

Re: DISGUSTING!

Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:15 am

jamccfc wrote:The qoute ' Real fans ' was aimed at our Ceo.i was not having a go at anybody and apologise if some took it the wrong way. We are all city fans with different views.



just read this mate , no worries

:ayatollah:

Re: DISGUSTING!

Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:31 am

How many of us would have been as patient as sam has.if we were owed millions.WELCOME BACK SAM :ayatollah:

Re: DISGUSTING!

Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:32 am

Forever Blue wrote:Spartic, I cant even be bothered to answer your comments are they are totally wrong and there is no Substance to it whats so ever.



Annis surely though this is the time to answer him and give him reason to change his opinions if that is the case and many others i think who are not keen on his return

Give him the substance to want to have Sam back and the reason why he should be welcomed back by the fans that think it is a bad idea going "backwards" instead of forward

I for one would like a list of Pro's and Con's written for his reininolvement at CCFC

:ayatollah: