Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:32 am
Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:36 am
Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:39 am
Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:43 am
Spartikus47 wrote:SAM HAMMAM brought Ridsdale in!!!!!!!!!!
Jesus christ wtf is going on
Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:55 am
Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:00 am
Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:21 am
Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:43 am
Spartikus47 wrote:Annis all I want is a stable, hooligan free, financially sound club who I can go and support. Could you tel me what is wrong with that? I am not a fly by night supporter but I may not be "in the know" like yourself. I am just commenting on things as I see them
As I see it Sam Hammam is responsible (multiple times) for putting my aspiration for my club at risk.
You do not have to justify your reasons for supporting Cardiff City, nor should you.
However, is it not true we are in all this debt because of Sam Hammam (directly and indirectly). Just because I am not prepared to welcome him back with open arms. He embraced the hooligan element of our club, allbeit I don't think he truly understood what he was doing in that respect.
We have many fantastic fans (80%+), but too many morons spoiling it. Please do not take this as tarring you with this brush, but it is when other fans actions affect how I am allowed to support my team that it starts taking the piss.
For me Sam Hammam took us to the brink in more than one respect and represents a Cardiff City I want nothing to do with.
Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:46 am
Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:49 am
Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:58 am
Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:28 am
jamccfc wrote:Spartikus47 wrote:Annis all I want is a stable, hooligan free, financially sound club who I can go and support. Could you tel me what is wrong with that? I am not a fly by night supporter but I may not be "in the know" like yourself. I am just commenting on things as I see them
As I see it Sam Hammam is responsible (multiple times) for putting my aspiration for my club at risk.
You do not have to justify your reasons for supporting Cardiff City, nor should you.
However, is it not true we are in all this debt because of Sam Hammam (directly and indirectly). Just because I am not prepared to welcome him back with open arms. He embraced the hooligan element of our club, allbeit I don't think he truly understood what he was doing in that respect.
We have many fantastic fans (80%+), but too many morons spoiling it. Please do not take this as tarring you with this brush, but it is when other fans actions affect how I am allowed to support my team that it starts taking the piss.
For me Sam Hammam took us to the brink in more than one respect and represents a Cardiff City I want nothing to do with.
without sounding like i am sniping.
would you rather the club is put into admin ( a possiblity if tg & vt want to force pmg out )
or would you rather sam back for exchange of debt into shares with no access or control over financial matters ( sam himself has said he wants niether )
you seem to be stuck in a time warp the club has some hooligan element ,the same as any other club, but by no means does sam promote or condone it.
you should be thankful we have a club to supoort and that sam is willing to convert the debt.
if i was sam and been through what he has, abuse over langston, failed to be paid anything off the £24m, having £24m reduced to £15, and more importantly SERIOUS ILL HEALTH, i don't think i would entertain the thought of returning.
my hat goes off to him and i would welcome him back wholeheartedly.
if you feel that you cannot continue to watch the club if sam comes back then tough, we need sam, we want sam and sam wants us.
WELCOME BACK SAM, YOU ARE STILL WANTED MY THE MAJORITY OF THE REAL FANS
Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:32 am
Spartikus47 wrote:I literally cannot believe what I am reading about Sam Hammam returning. And subsequently the influence of people on this board on the way our football club is and will be run. Sam Hammam nearly killed this club on more than one occassion, and the true City people like Dave Jones have been battling against him and his actions since he took over.
To be honest I don't give a flying F*** which of you have "personal" friendships with him, or what drum he banged to get you to follow him blindly (something you seem to be continueing to do!). You are the same people that ultimately made it impossible for me to go and watch Cardiff City away at many London games (during my time living there) because of your reputations and actions which meant trips were strictly bus and ticket only.
All I want is a normal club to support and just because a few want to be on the pathetic "inner circle" its impossible.
If Sam Hammam returns then that will signal the end of my City days I am afraid.
Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:45 am
Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:56 am
Forever Blue wrote:Spartic, I cant even be bothered to answer your comments are they are totally wrong and there is no Substance to it whats so ever.
Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:13 am
TrecynonBlue wrote:jamccfc wrote:Spartikus47 wrote:Annis all I want is a stable, hooligan free, financially sound club who I can go and support. Could you tel me what is wrong with that? I am not a fly by night supporter but I may not be "in the know" like yourself. I am just commenting on things as I see them
As I see it Sam Hammam is responsible (multiple times) for putting my aspiration for my club at risk.
You do not have to justify your reasons for supporting Cardiff City, nor should you.
However, is it not true we are in all this debt because of Sam Hammam (directly and indirectly). Just because I am not prepared to welcome him back with open arms. He embraced the hooligan element of our club, allbeit I don't think he truly understood what he was doing in that respect.
We have many fantastic fans (80%+), but too many morons spoiling it. Please do not take this as tarring you with this brush, but it is when other fans actions affect how I am allowed to support my team that it starts taking the piss.
For me Sam Hammam took us to the brink in more than one respect and represents a Cardiff City I want nothing to do with.
without sounding like i am sniping.
would you rather the club is put into admin ( a possiblity if tg & vt want to force pmg out )
or would you rather sam back for exchange of debt into shares with no access or control over financial matters ( sam himself has said he wants niether )
you seem to be stuck in a time warp the club has some hooligan element ,the same as any other club, but by no means does sam promote or condone it.
you should be thankful we have a club to supoort and that sam is willing to convert the debt.
if i was sam and been through what he has, abuse over langston, failed to be paid anything off the £24m, having £24m reduced to £15, and more importantly SERIOUS ILL HEALTH, i don't think i would entertain the thought of returning.
my hat goes off to him and i would welcome him back wholeheartedly.
if you feel that you cannot continue to watch the club if sam comes back then tough, we need sam, we want sam and sam wants us.
WELCOME BACK SAM, YOU ARE STILL WANTED MY THE MAJORITY OF THE REAL FANS
So the fans who don't want Sam back are not real fans? Grow up!
Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:15 am
jamccfc wrote:The qoute ' Real fans ' was aimed at our Ceo.i was not having a go at anybody and apologise if some took it the wrong way. We are all city fans with different views.
Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:31 am
Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:32 am
Forever Blue wrote:Spartic, I cant even be bothered to answer your comments are they are totally wrong and there is no Substance to it whats so ever.