Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:29 pm
Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:33 pm
Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:24 pm
Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:28 pm
Ben wrote:why are they allowed to cover thier faces ??? we can't do it!
Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:49 pm
Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:51 pm
taffyapple wrote:Allah and the Prophet instruct all Muslims to strive to move to a Muslim land
Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:14 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:Ben wrote:why are they allowed to cover thier faces ??? we can't do it!
Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:24 pm
Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:38 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:Ben wrote:why are they allowed to cover thier faces ??? we can't do it!
Well we could there is no law against it.
Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:52 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:Before you click on the link I just want make some statements here.
1. I dont support the BNP but I feel the guy here has a very good point.
2. Take note how many attended this demonstration. Its very clear from this that the muslim community dont support these guys.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lku1SQJw2xw
Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:10 pm
NinianParkWasMyWife wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:Ben wrote:why are they allowed to cover thier faces ??? we can't do it!
Well we could there is no law against it.
Try walking in to a bank with a balaclava on, Or in to a airport and on a plane, See what happens
Maybe there is no law against it but you will be arrested without doubt
Muslim women should not be allowed to cover their faces like that it is a massive security risk, if they want to wear that type of clobber they should f**k off to a country that makes them do it, Ban the burka now i say
Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:14 pm
Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:29 pm
Nuclearblue wrote:Looking at that lot was a bit like Alton Towers today Seriously the f*cking lot of em should be rounded up and given a one way ticket to a country of there choice. Somewhere that supports there ideology. We are supposed to be at WAR in afghanistan to rid there country of this menace!! but home here we let them do what the f**k they want. It makes my blood boil are boys are dying out in Afghanistan and our Gals. What a stain on there memory
Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:10 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:Before you click on the link I just want make some statements here.
1. I dont support the BNP but I feel the guy here has a very good point.
2. Take note how many attended this demonstration. Its very clear from this that the muslim community dont support these guys.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lku1SQJw2xw
Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:32 pm
joe_public wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:Before you click on the link I just want make some statements here.
1. I don't support the BNP but I feel the guy here has a very good point.
2. Take note how many attended this demonstration. Its very clear from this that the muslim community don't support these guys.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lku1SQJw2xw
As you quite rightly say, there was no support from within the Islamic community, it was totally unrepresentative.
Quite ironic though that the BNP are outraged by this. This is the same BNP that constantly bangs on about freedom of speech and the right to be able to express your views, even if those views are offensive to large sections of the population and even if half of what you are saying is based on lies. Now all of a sudden, people who they disagree with are not allowed that same freedom. They need to make their minds up - one minute it is one rule for all, abide by them or f**k off, now they are saying they are allowed free speech but Muslims are not.
And what exactly has got them wound up? A pitifully small bunch of people protesting in the street.
In the film he asks "what about our rights and what about our heritage?" - well exactly, what about our heritage of free speech? our heritage of freedom to worship? Those on the demo were not looking to take away our rights or heritage, they were simply protesting about anti-Islamic laws being brought in.
The BNP seem outraged at people praying in the street. Big deal. Seems harmless enough to me.
Granted some of the stuff they were shouting was a bit over the top, but no more over the top than what goes on at BNP/EDL demos - in fact, considerably less offensive than what the EDL were shouting at the same location just a few weeks ago. Perhaps they could use the same argument - they are mostly moderate but a few nutters tag on to them?
"let me tell you what the lion sounds like when it roars ... AAAARRRRGGGGHHHH!!!" --- oooh.. scary! Are the BNP really scared of this nonsense? I have heard worse threats being chanted down the city. Was this demo really a bigger threat to society than - for instance - a footy firm on the rampage?
They have had enough of the Killing in Iraq and Afghanistan. So have I !!! They complained about naked women being used to sell chocolate bars - sound fair enough to me - not exactly a 'scene that should not be allowed on British streets', as the BNP guy put it. The BNP find it offensive - well most people think the BNP are offensive, so welcome to our world.
As for the comment, "should any member of the British public stand there are shout like they are shouting we would be arrested on the spot" - you need to get out more son and check out the evangelical nutters that stand in the streets of Cardiff reading from the old testament telling us we are all going to hell, week in, week out, without ever getting nicked.
Freedom of speech my arse. Bloody Hypocrites.
(* Oh, and the advert for a Muslim dating agency that google adds have added to the page - )
Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:43 pm
Nuclearblue wrote:joe_public wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:Before you click on the link I just want make some statements here.
1. I don't support the BNP but I feel the guy here has a very good point.
2. Take note how many attended this demonstration. Its very clear from this that the muslim community don't support these guys.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lku1SQJw2xw
As you quite rightly say, there was no support from within the Islamic community, it was totally unrepresentative.
Quite ironic though that the BNP are outraged by this. This is the same BNP that constantly bangs on about freedom of speech and the right to be able to express your views, even if those views are offensive to large sections of the population and even if half of what you are saying is based on lies. Now all of a sudden, people who they disagree with are not allowed that same freedom. They need to make their minds up - one minute it is one rule for all, abide by them or f**k off, now they are saying they are allowed free speech but Muslims are not.
And what exactly has got them wound up? A pitifully small bunch of people protesting in the street.
In the film he asks "what about our rights and what about our heritage?" - well exactly, what about our heritage of free speech? our heritage of freedom to worship? Those on the demo were not looking to take away our rights or heritage, they were simply protesting about anti-Islamic laws being brought in.
The BNP seem outraged at people praying in the street. Big deal. Seems harmless enough to me.
Granted some of the stuff they were shouting was a bit over the top, but no more over the top than what goes on at BNP/EDL demos - in fact, considerably less offensive than what the EDL were shouting at the same location just a few weeks ago. Perhaps they could use the same argument - they are mostly moderate but a few nutters tag on to them?
"let me tell you what the lion sounds like when it roars ... AAAARRRRGGGGHHHH!!!" --- oooh.. scary! Are the BNP really scared of this nonsense? I have heard worse threats being chanted down the city. Was this demo really a bigger threat to society than - for instance - a footy firm on the rampage?
They have had enough of the Killing in Iraq and Afghanistan. So have I !!! They complained about naked women being used to sell chocolate bars - sound fair enough to me - not exactly a 'scene that should not be allowed on British streets', as the BNP guy put it. The BNP find it offensive - well most people think the BNP are offensive, so welcome to our world.
As for the comment, "should any member of the British public stand there are shout like they are shouting we would be arrested on the spot" - you need to get out more son and check out the evangelical nutters that stand in the streets of Cardiff reading from the old testament telling us we are all going to hell, week in, week out, without ever getting nicked.
Freedom of speech my arse. Bloody Hypocrites.
(* Oh, and the advert for a Muslim dating agency that google adds have added to the page - )
All that shite shouted by those Brit hating Radicals and all you seem to do is have a go at the BNP. It wasn't them shouting hatred was it. As to those nutters you get down Cardiff "you're all going to die" Brigade they are harmless enough. They don't go around blowing people up do they ? So comparing them with those radicals is not worthy of a mention in the same sentence.They have always been around and they are a source of amusement. These radicals are NOT
Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:51 pm
Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:56 pm
Nuclearblue wrote:All that shite shouted by those Brit hating Radicals and all you seem to do is have a go at the BNP. It wasn't them shouting hatred was it. As to those nutters you get down Cardiff "you're all going to die" Brigade they are harmless enough. They don't go around blowing people up do they ? So comparing them with those radicals is not worthy of a mention in the same sentence.They have always been around and they are a source of amusement. These radicals are NOT [/color]
Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:57 pm
Nuclearblue wrote:All that shite shouted by those Brit hating Radicals and all you seem to do is have a go at the BNP. It wasn't them shouting hatred was it. As to those nutters you get down Cardiff "you're all going to die" Brigade they are harmless enough. They don't go around blowing people up do they ? So comparing them with those radicals is not worthy of a mention in the same sentence.They have always been around and they are a source of amusement. These radicals are NOT
Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:15 pm
Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:17 pm
Xcasual wrote:At the end of the day ,if you hate the British way of life & British values just leave the country,born here or not .SIMPLE
Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:25 pm
Xcasual wrote:At the end of the day ,if you hate the British way of life & British values just leave the country,born here or not .SIMPLE
Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:30 pm
joe_public wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:All that shite shouted by those Brit hating Radicals and all you seem to do is have a go at the BNP. It wasn't them shouting hatred was it. As to those nutters you get down Cardiff "you're all going to die" Brigade they are harmless enough. They don't go around blowing people up do they ? So comparing them with those radicals is not worthy of a mention in the same sentence.They have always been around and they are a source of amusement. These radicals are NOT [/color]
As well as chanting hateful songs, football hooligans regularly follow through with random violence against strangers. There is nothing amusing about this.
With the exception of the 7/7 boomings (the culprits of which are either dead or in jail) we have not had anyone blown up by Islamic radicals. Granted there must be some out there that would like to do it, but how come we are comfortable that the "you're all going to die" Brigade down the city are harmless (even though they regularly are not) but the Muslims out on Saturday must all be evil suicide bombers (even though they very very rarely are)?
Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:41 pm
NinianParkWasMyWife wrote:joe_public wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:All that shite shouted by those Brit hating Radicals and all you seem to do is have a go at the BNP. It wasn't them shouting hatred was it. As to those nutters you get down Cardiff "you're all going to die" Brigade they are harmless enough. They don't go around blowing people up do they ? So comparing them with those radicals is not worthy of a mention in the same sentence.They have always been around and they are a source of amusement. These radicals are NOT [/color]
As well as chanting hateful songs, football hooligans regularly follow through with random violence against strangers. There is nothing amusing about this.
With the exception of the 7/7 boomings (the culprits of which are either dead or in jail) we have not had anyone blown up by Islamic radicals. Granted there must be some out there that would like to do it, but how come we are comfortable that the "you're all going to die" Brigade down the city are harmless (even though they regularly are not) but the Muslims out on Saturday must all be evil suicide bombers (even though they very very rarely are)?
What about the Lockerbie bombing?
Or the Brits that got caught up in the twin towers?
Madrid bombings? Bali bombings? Brits died in both. list the can go on and on
And the very people you are saying are harmless are praising the culprits and wishing it on us, Maybe if our internal security wasn't as good as it is there would be a lot more terrorist attacks. Look how many of these extreme Muslims have been caught plotting attacks against the British public in the last decade or so.
Cant really beleive you are sticking up for them cunts that were in Cardiff.
Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:48 pm
Were any of the people on the streets of Cardiff involved in these bombing then? If so, you must share what you know with special branch and lets get them locked up. If not, what on earth are you talking about?
I am not sticking up for them, i think they are a little bit mad, but they have as much right to lick windows as the BNP do.
I do not want to live in a society where you do not have the right to free speech or the right to worship whoever or what ever you want to. I do not want to live in a society where you are judged by the colour of your skin or the clothes you wear.
Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:49 pm
NinianParkWasMyWife wrote:
Were any of the people on the streets of Cardiff involved in these bombing then? If so, you must share what you know with special branch and lets get them locked up. If not, what on earth are you talking about?
I am not sticking up for them, i think they are a little bit mad, but they have as much right to lick windows as the BNP do.
I do not want to live in a society where you do not have the right to free speech or the right to worship whoever or what ever you want to. I do not want to live in a society where you are judged by the colour of your skin or the clothes you wear.
Never once said they were involved in bombings, read back because you obviously mis-read, however these are the same people that preach hate against the british public and encourage terror attacks
Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:04 pm
Are they? do you know them then?
Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:10 pm
Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:17 pm
NinianParkWasMyWife wrote:Are they? do you know them then?
You dont need to know them. chants of you will all die is enough for me.
Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:30 pm