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" PFA CALLED IN TO SORT PLAYERS WAGES OUT "

Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:11 am

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballna ... -26967946/ :evil:

Sorry I dont Believe Gethin Jenkins Comments one bit, As I knew All about This and They have Not been paid, Also Our current players HAVE NOT BEEN PAID ANY BONUS FOR LAST SEASON or YEARLY SIGNING ON FEES. Chops is Owed Over £150,000 Net, We Owe Our Players over £500,000 and Sadly its Very True.
Jenkins Please dont lie or Spin, I have spoken to them, Over a meal the other day they had A BIG BUST UP WITH Dave Jones Over it as some threatened to strike.


Yes Jenkins they did This Month finally get their Basic Wages on time, BUT THEY HAVE NOT RECEIVED MONEY FOR LAST SEASON or THE PLAYERS WHO HAVE NOW LEFT ARE OWED THOUSANDS, HOW ARE WE GOING TO ATTRACT NEW PLAYERS WITH ALL THIS GOING ON, ITS A SMALL WORLD and PLAYERS TALK TO EACH OTHER :evil: :evil:




This Club once again Next week are going to ask them for This Season to Defer Bonus/Appearance money etc .
It has to be sorted Before the Sheffield Utd as it has to be Registered with the Football League.

Re: " PFA CALLED IN TO SORT PLAYERS WAGES OUT "

Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:41 am

let's time it to see how long it takes to get on other message boards slagging Annis off for being negative, or is that truthful :o , only you decide.

Re: " PFA CALLED IN TO SORT PLAYERS WAGES OUT "

Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:44 am

BigGwynram wrote:let's time it to see how long it takes to get on other message boards slagging Annis off for being negative, or is that truthful :o , only you decide.


viewtopic.php?f=2&t=18575 :o

Re: " PFA CALLED IN TO SORT PLAYERS WAGES OUT "

Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:46 am

BigGwynram wrote:let's time it to see how long it takes to get on other message boards slagging Annis off for being negative, or is that truthful :o , only you decide.


FFS Gwyn this continual shadowing, and protection, of every Annis word is really sad.

He is a grown up now and really does not need his own stalker :oops:

Re: " PFA CALLED IN TO SORT PLAYERS WAGES OUT "

Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:51 am

Keli wrote:
BigGwynram wrote:let's time it to see how long it takes to get on other message boards slagging Annis off for being negative, or is that truthful :o , only you decide.


FFS Gwyn this continual shadowing, and protection, of every Annis word is really sad.

He is a grown up now and really does not need his own stalker :oops:


Kell, So its OK WHEN I GET SLATED By THE SAME PEOPLE CONTINOUS, But if Some people then Support me its Wrong, DOUBLE STANDARDS ME THINKS :roll:

Re: " PFA CALLED IN TO SORT PLAYERS WAGES OUT "

Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:55 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Keli wrote:
BigGwynram wrote:let's time it to see how long it takes to get on other message boards slagging Annis off for being negative, or is that truthful :o , only you decide.


FFS Gwyn this continual shadowing, and protection, of every Annis word is really sad.

He is a grown up now and really does not need his own stalker :oops:


Kell, So its OK WHEN I GET SLATED By THE SAME PEOPLE CONTINOUS, But if Some people then Support me its Wrong, DOUBLE STANDARDS ME THINKS :roll:


Annis, not double standards mate. I post on both boards and therefore have no real loyalty to either.

Do you think you need someone to fight your battles for you (I don't think so...).

People appear to be shadowing your every word and IMO that is not good, and maybe the reason why some people have a problem with this board.

Just an observation :ayatollah:

Re: " PFA CALLED IN TO SORT PLAYERS WAGES OUT "

Sat Jul 31, 2010 7:57 am

Gethin Jenkins is destined to fail, to due to not having a background in football and being an 'egg head'.

Re: " PFA CALLED IN TO SORT PLAYERS WAGES OUT "

Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:09 am

Kell,

I agree, I can fight my own battles, but just look at the other night when certain people thought Borley and I had fallen out, they were delighted and attacked me straight away, When they saw we were Friends they all went in to hiding once again, Also We have had 98% of every Statement we have made right, but the minute they think its wrong they swarm again like Bees, but are not man enough to say we were right and people like Gwyn get fed up of it, SURELY YOU CAN SEE THAT :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: " PFA CALLED IN TO SORT PLAYERS WAGES OUT "

Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:16 am

Forever Blue wrote:Kell,

I agree, I can fight my own battles, but just look at the other night when certain people thought Borley and I had fallen out, they were delighted and attacked me straight away, When they saw we were Friends they all went in to hiding once again, Also We have had 98% of every Statement we have made right, but the minute they think its wrong they swarm again like Bees, but are not man enough to say we were right and people like Gwyn get fed up of it, SURELY YOU CAN SEE THAT :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


You are 100% correct, and it is very sad. Yes, I see the other side as well, and those non-supporters of you are IMO just as sad/bad.

Unfortunately now, to one side you cannot put a foot wrong and to the other you cannot put a foot right. That is what you get for being high profile LOL

It doesn't matter what you say you will always be the devil to some, and the saviour to others, but to have someone jump in before anyone has said anything in response to this particular thread is a bit silly.

Anyway, I will have to watch otherwise I will get accused of stalking you as well and become a hypocrit :lol:

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: " PFA CALLED IN TO SORT PLAYERS WAGES OUT "

Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:23 am

Keli wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Kell,

I agree, I can fight my own battles, but just look at the other night when certain people thought Borley and I had fallen out, they were delighted and attacked me straight away, When they saw we were Friends they all went in to hiding once again, Also We have had 98% of every Statement we have made right, but the minute they think its wrong they swarm again like Bees, but are not man enough to say we were right and people like Gwyn get fed up of it, SURELY YOU CAN SEE THAT :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:


You are 100% correct, and it is very sad. Yes, I see the other side as well, and those non-supporters of you are IMO just as sad/bad.

Unfortunately now, to one side you cannot put a foot wrong and to the other you cannot put a foot right. That is what you get for being high profile LOL

It doesn't matter what you say you will always be the devil to some, and the saviour to others, but to have someone jump in before anyone has said anything in response to this particular thread is a bit silly.

Anyway, I will have to watch otherwise I will get accused of stalking you as well and become a hypocrit :lol:

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

:lol: :lol: :ayatollah:

Cheers Kell :ayatollah:

Re: " PFA CALLED IN TO SORT PLAYERS WAGES OUT "

Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:32 am

Good enough for the bunch of losers.
Should we feel sorry for them?
A decent performance at Wembley and
None of this would be happening.
Should we fell sorry for them?
This squad has always had a yellow streak.
wankers

Re: " PFA CALLED IN TO SORT PLAYERS WAGES OUT "

Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:35 am

stickywicket wrote:Good enough for the bunch of losers.
Should we feel sorry for them?
A decent performance at Wembley and
None of this would be happening.
Should we fell sorry for them?
This squad has always had a yellow streak.
wankers


But thats not how you treat players in a professional club, I do agree they were a bunch of loosers.

Re: " PFA CALLED IN TO SORT PLAYERS WAGES OUT "

Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:37 am

BigGwynram wrote:let's time it to see how long it takes to get on other message boards slagging Annis off for being negative, or is that truthful :o , only you decide.


It was Steve Borley slagging Annis off for being negative, that's a FACT, I still have a copy of his post, other 'message boards' were bound to jump all over it. And for the abuse that Annis took, Borley came in for some vile stuff from Eddie May on here, its 6 and two 3's, any body who posts on public message boards are in the firing line. You know that from your RAMS days Gwyn and lets be honest, most of the so called sniping is just winding up with no malice meant, you do it, I do it, everyone does it and we all bite on times. :lol: :ayatollah:

Re: " PFA CALLED IN TO SORT PLAYERS WAGES OUT "

Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:39 am

WHY PICK ON JENKINS? HE HASN'T BEEN AT THE CLUB 5 MINUTES.
WE OWE MILLIONS .OVER PAY OUR PLAYERS.
I WOULD SUGGEST SELLING THE LOT.
START AGAIN WITH A SALARY CAP OF £5K
I DON'T BELIVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OUR PRIMA DONNA PLAYERS HAVE UNDER ACHIEVED.
YET EXPECT OUR SYMPATHY.

Re: " PFA CALLED IN TO SORT PLAYERS WAGES OUT "

Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:41 am

davdil wrote:WHY PICK ON JENKINS? HE HASN'T BEEN AT THE CLUB 5 MINUTES.
WE OWE MILLIONS .OVER PAY OUR PLAYERS.
I WOULD SUGGEST SELLING THE LOT.
START AGAIN WITH A SALARY CAP OF £5K
I DON'T BELIVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OUR PRIMA DONNA PLAYERS HAVE UNDER ACHIEVED.
YET EXPECT OUR SYMPATHY.


Yes I am picking on Jenkins because his statement to the PRESS IS 100% NOT TRUE and THATS WRONG IN MY OPINION.

Re: " PFA CALLED IN TO SORT PLAYERS WAGES OUT "

Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:43 am

Re The sniping.
Get real boys and girls.
This is not the real world.
Its a virtual world.
Get a life as they say.

JENKINS shouldn't be at the club at all!!!

Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:50 am

You thought Pinochio Pete was bad, you ain't seen nothing yet!!!

All will come out in the wash, a leopard never loses its spots.

Re: " PFA CALLED IN TO SORT PLAYERS WAGES OUT "

Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:51 am

i dont think i ever recall deleting or editing anyones posts on the RAMS site, no attacks, no sniping, just lads who all got on, only jacks who came on soon went running lol

i wounder why

Re: " PFA CALLED IN TO SORT PLAYERS WAGES OUT "

Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:55 am

WE are in difficult economic times, irrespective of the mess that City are in financially.Most of those players are very well paid and whilst it is clearly wrong that bonuses have not been paid, there are many out there having pay cuts and freezes, if not losing their jobs.
perhaps a touch of realism is required here. :|

Re: " PFA CALLED IN TO SORT PLAYERS WAGES OUT "

Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:56 am

Forever Blue wrote:
davdil wrote:WHY PICK ON JENKINS? HE HASN'T BEEN AT THE CLUB 5 MINUTES.
WE OWE MILLIONS .OVER PAY OUR PLAYERS.
I WOULD SUGGEST SELLING THE LOT.
START AGAIN WITH A SALARY CAP OF £5K
I DON'T BELIVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OUR PRIMA DONNA PLAYERS HAVE UNDER ACHIEVED.
YET EXPECT OUR SYMPATHY.


Yes I am picking on Jenkins because his statement to the PRESS IS 100% NOT TRUE and THATS WRONG IN MY OPINION.


What part is not true?

Bluebirds chief executive Gethin Jenkins said: “We have ensured the players and staff have been paid on time as we are committed to do. This is true.

“As from now a large majority of scheduled bonus payments have been paid and the reminder will be completed in the early part of next week. You say some players have told you they haven't been paid but what Jenkins is saying here is that most have, the rest will be paid next week. Maybe the players you spoke to are the ones being paid next week. We will have to wait and see.

“That includes players who have moved on from the club.” As this is a follow on from the "the remainder will be completed in the early part of next week" line, again, we will have to wait til next week.

Re: " PFA CALLED IN TO SORT PLAYERS WAGES OUT "

Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:56 am

Gethin Jenkins as the CEO should be telling the truth. He is the link between the boardroom and the fans and the press. The board will of course not want everything to be aired in public and we should all respect that however when the CEO makes statements they should be truthful at all times.
It's been very easy for him this season because the golden ticket scam has delivered him 18,000 season ticket holders but in my opinion if he carries on like this he will have a struggle next season.

We know things are difficult for everybody at the club because of the financial situation but honesty costs NOTHING.

Re: " PFA CALLED IN TO SORT PLAYERS WAGES OUT "

Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:59 am

R44MCC wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
davdil wrote:WHY PICK ON JENKINS? HE HASN'T BEEN AT THE CLUB 5 MINUTES.
WE OWE MILLIONS .OVER PAY OUR PLAYERS.
I WOULD SUGGEST SELLING THE LOT.
START AGAIN WITH A SALARY CAP OF £5K
I DON'T BELIVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OUR PRIMA DONNA PLAYERS HAVE UNDER ACHIEVED.
YET EXPECT OUR SYMPATHY.


Yes I am picking on Jenkins because his statement to the PRESS IS 100% NOT TRUE and THATS WRONG IN MY OPINION.


What part is not true?

Bluebirds chief executive Gethin Jenkins said: “We have ensured the players and staff have been paid on time as we are committed to do. This is true.

“As from now a large majority of scheduled bonus payments have been paid and the reminder will be completed in the early part of next week. You say some players have told you they haven't been paid but what Jenkins is saying here is that most have, the rest will be paid next week. Maybe the players you spoke to are the ones being paid next week. We will have to wait and see.

“That includes players who have moved on from the club.” As this is a follow on from the "the remainder will be completed in the early part of next week" line, again, we will have to wait til next week.


None of the ex players have received their monies and No players have received their Bonus etc etc.


You have only ever done 3 posts and they All stick up for Jenkins and You even tried to Deny there was an Embargo in one :lol: :lol: Now are you him

Re: " PFA CALLED IN TO SORT PLAYERS WAGES OUT "

Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:00 am

ridofrid wrote:Gethin Jenkins as the CEO should be telling the truth. He is the link between the boardroom and the fans and the press. The board will of course not want everything to be aired in public and we should all respect that however when the CEO makes statements they should be truthful at all times.
It's been very easy for him this season because the golden ticket scam has delivered him 18,000 season ticket holders but in my opinion if he carries on like this he will have a struggle next season.

We know things are difficult for everybody at the club because of the financial situation but honesty costs NOTHING.


Thats All We Ask for is HONESTY.

Re: " PFA CALLED IN TO SORT PLAYERS WAGES OUT "

Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:06 am

Forever Blue wrote:http://www.walesonline.co.uk/footballnation/cardiff-city-fc/2010/07/31/pfa-called-into-cardiff-city-cash-dispute-91466-26967946/ :evil:

Sorry I dont Believe Gethin Jenkins Comments one bit, As I knew All about This and They have Not been paid, Also Our current players HAVE NOT BEEN PAID ANY BONUS FOR LAST SEASON or YEARLY SIGNING ON FEES. Chops is Owed Over £150,000 Net, We Owe Our Players over £500,000 and Sadly its Very True.
Jenkins Please dont lie or Spin, I have spoken to them, Over a meal the other day they had A BIG BUST UP WITH Dave Jones Over it as some threatened to strike.


Yes Jenkins they did This Month finally get their Basic Wages on time, BUT THEY HAVE NOT RECEIVED MONEY FOR LAST SEASON or THE PLAYERS WHO HAVE NOW LEFT ARE OWED THOUSANDS, HOW ARE WE GOING TO ATTRACT NEW PLAYERS WITH ALL THIS GOING ON, ITS A SMALL WORLD and PLAYERS TALK TO EACH OTHER :evil: :evil:




This Club once again Next week are going to ask them for This Season to Defer Bonus/Appearance money etc .
It has to be sorted Before the Sheffield Utd as it has to be Registered with the Football League.



If they get paid next week then Jenkins is telling the truth.


What is the man supposed to do. if we havent got the money then we can't pay it. I'd rather the cleaners and the office staff get paid than some poxy bonus which Chops will probably blow at the bookies.

He'll get his money and so will the others.

The players should keep this behind closed doors, shut their mouths get on with it and and show some pride in the shirt instead fo dragging the club through the mud. I'm beginning to want to see them sold off.

Re: " PFA CALLED IN TO SORT PLAYERS WAGES OUT "

Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:16 am

Tim, All this type of stuff should not be going on at Our Club, Lets hope they pay Chops £150,000.

Re: " PFA CALLED IN TO SORT PLAYERS WAGES OUT "

Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:17 am

Mixed feeling about the players talking like this. If I was in their shoes I would be cautious about my business but then again there is a stage where you have to take dramatic action. Perhaps its got to that stage. When you are owed money from an employer who is struggling to pay you then you usually mind you are last in their priorities. The longer that goes on the more frustrated one becomes and ends up resorting to such actions. They actions do usually kick the employer into doing something about it. Such is life.

Besides we all know why they are in this situation and its a bonus as far as I'm concerned that this is giving the Riddler more bad press. Lets hope this sort of story helps finish him off for good.

Re: " PFA CALLED IN TO SORT PLAYERS WAGES OUT "

Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:18 am

Forever Blue, I couldn't quote you as it wouldn't let me for some reason so here is my reply -

First off, I am not Gethin Jenkins.

Second, as for the denying the embargo, exactly where did I deny it? I asked what embargo and why do we have one. That is not denying it, just asking a question.

Thirdly, I would imagine the only ex player who you know hasn't been paid is Warren Feeney. Have you spoken to ALL ex players and asked them?

How do you know that EVERY current player has not had their bonuses? Have you spoken to EVERY current player individually?

And yes, I am sticking up for Jenkins on this occasion as there is nothing in his statement that ANYONE on here knows 100% is lies. NO-ONE on this board knows whether EVERY current player or EVERY ex player has or has not had their bonuses. It is confidential information and I, for one, do not discuss my wages and bonuses with other epmloyees and I would say that a lot of people don't.

Re: " PFA CALLED IN TO SORT PLAYERS WAGES OUT "

Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:21 am

R44MCC wrote:Forever Blue, I couldn't quote you as it wouldn't let me for some reason so here is my reply -

First off, I am not Gethin Jenkins.

Second, as for the denying the embargo, exactly where did I deny it? I asked what embargo and why do we have one. That is not denying it, just asking a question.

Thirdly, I would imagine the only ex player who you know hasn't been paid is Warren Feeney. Have you spoken to ALL ex players and asked them?

How do you know that EVERY current player has not had their bonuses? Have you spoken to EVERY current player individually?

And yes, I am sticking up for Jenkins on this occasion as there is nothing in his statement that ANYONE on here knows 100% is lies. NO-ONE on this board knows whether EVERY current player or EVERY ex player has or has not had their bonuses. It is confidential information and I, for one, do not discuss my wages and bonuses with other epmloyees and I would say that a lot of people don't.



Funny story is, I havent spoken to Feeney for a week, I thought you might think that, I do know more than 1 player.

Re: " PFA CALLED IN TO SORT PLAYERS WAGES OUT "

Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:22 am

I cant believe any of you are sticking up for OUR CLUB, Surely OUR CLUB ARE IN THE WRONG ?

Re: " PFA CALLED IN TO SORT PLAYERS WAGES OUT "

Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:25 am

R44MCC wrote: It is confidential information and I, for one, do not discuss my wages and bonuses with other epmloyees and I would say that a lot of people don't.


I'm pretty sure the deferrment of the bonuses and wages had been in the media. This has been going on for a while now and nown and again drastic measures hoave to be taken to and perhaps the players felt it was the right time to do this. Going public sometimes goes does give the lick up the arse the boss needs.