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Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:05 pm
i thinks its a good deal for us and Ross, lets be honest hes a shadow of the player he was !
that run he had into the box yesterday was typical of the player he is now.
2 season ago he would have got to that pass and chipped it over the keeper.
maybe he can pick his career up again with Roy Keane .. 500k for a player who likes a drink or 2 is a good deal
Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:08 pm
i would prefer transfer fee not fee plus stead
Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:09 pm
troobloo3339 wrote:i would prefer transfer fee not fee plus stead
And me. Stead is shite
Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:10 pm
troobloo3339 wrote:i would prefer transfer fee not fee plus stead
its 500k plus John stead
Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:15 pm
couldnt agree more with the ross thing, a year or so ago he would,ve got there but hes nowhere near as fit and has lost a bit of pace ...as for stead he,ll do a job covering jay,got good feet and decent in the air...plus cash decent deal.
Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:18 pm
i think it would be a crap deal
Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:20 pm
what? this is official now is it ?
Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:28 pm
i know it 500k plus stead isaid i would prefer all cash no swap and cash do u now understand what i meant chri pike
Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:30 pm
beggers cant be choosers though can they!
Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:36 pm
troobloo3339 wrote:i know it 500k plus stead isaid i would prefer all cash no swap and cash do u now understand what i meant chri pike
yes sorry mate
Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:48 pm
500k plus stead how much does that value ross at 1 mill 2 mill anybody like to guess
Mon Aug 09, 2010 3:54 pm
bluestar wrote:500k plus stead how much does that value ross at 1 mill 2 mill anybody like to guess
We'd be lucky to get more than £1m for him if forest are offering £1.5m for whittingam!
Mon Aug 09, 2010 4:05 pm
Is this offical now?
Mon Aug 09, 2010 4:56 pm
Yes i think so. Stead will be good back up to jay. Ross is not happy here so move him out.
Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:24 pm
The only thing wrong with Ross is that he's not starting. Once he's got 5 or 10 games under his belt, we'll see how stupid this deal is.
Ross is a £3m player.
Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:36 pm
Just so everyone know's where I stand with Dave Jones before commenting, I think he has done an excellent job on the whole, at least up until last summer anyway, since when I have despaired at much of what he has done, especially player recruitment. It's pretty clear that Jones has in terms of transfer fees done exceptionally well overall, again up until last summer since when much has been questionable. Previously, most if not all failures cost virtually nothing, though this is also conveniently forgetting that he has predominantly had a huge wage bill that has seen many millions wasted on Fowler, JFH & Sinclair etc.
Anyway, McCormack was quite possibly the best of the lot, or at least it should have been. Having cost a paltry £120k or so, after one season we had a £5m player who was creative, determined, versatile, scored goals, gave the team a lot even when not scoring and was all round pretty damn good. Despite banging in 20 goals, Jones saw it fit to replace him though and whether directly or indirectly as a result of signing Chopra, put his nose out of joint and reduced him to back up striker and only competing for a possible spot on the wing. Since then, McCormack has degenerated into a bloated drunkard to the extent we are struggling to get a £1m for what is an excellent player when appreciated. Whatever the rights and wrongs of McCormack's reaction, it certainly shows very poor man management from Jones and even more utilisation of the players and funds at his disposal.
The deal to replace him for £500k plus a player who is barely decent, on substantial wages to boot and barring injury will hardly play is crazy for me and is a further error from Jones from the generous funds he has been afforded.
Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:26 pm
if thats what the deal is i will be happy
stead might turn into a decent player under jones.. the same a bothroyd has
Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:49 pm
saladthedragon wrote:Just so everyone know's where I stand with Dave Jones before commenting, I think he has done an excellent job on the whole, at least up until last summer anyway, since when I have despaired at much of what he has done, especially player recruitment. It's pretty clear that Jones has in terms of transfer fees done exceptionally well overall, again up until last summer since when much has been questionable. Previously, most if not all failures cost virtually nothing, though this is also conveniently forgetting that he has predominantly had a huge wage bill that has seen many millions wasted on Fowler, JFH & Sinclair etc.
Anyway, McCormack was quite possibly the best of the lot, or at least it should have been. Having cost a paltry £120k or so, after one season we had a £5m player who was creative, determined, versatile, scored goals, gave the team a lot even when not scoring and was all round pretty damn good. Despite banging in 20 goals, Jones saw it fit to replace him though and whether directly or indirectly as a result of signing Chopra, put his nose out of joint and reduced him to back up striker and only competing for a possible spot on the wing. Since then, McCormack has degenerated into a bloated drunkard to the extent we are struggling to get a £1m for what is an excellent player when appreciated. Whatever the rights and wrongs of McCormack's reaction, it certainly shows very poor man management from Jones and even more utilisation of the players and funds at his disposal.
The deal to replace him for £500k plus a player who is barely decent, on substantial wages to boot and barring injury will hardly play is crazy for me and is a further error from Jones from the generous funds he has been afforded.
Totally agree i mean lets sign a center half and stick him up front after a blinding season before than at center back i mean why people moan hes past it and a one season wonder i never know the guys not playing in his postion and when he does its left midfield what do they expect another 26goals every year from him it aint going to happend,bad management u ask me or a personal fall out it just dont make sence
Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:56 pm
Id be sad to see Ross go
because i remember him for the player he was a few seasons ago. It does seem by reports he has got a drink problem which is sad because he is ruining his career.
Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:18 pm
Any news on the Ross exchange.
Adding Stead and Olifinjana to the squad would give us more of a physical/height presence. Something that teams getting out of the championship very often have.
Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:31 pm
I would be sad to see him go also, but it would be a good deal.
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