I'm sorry but my take on tonight

Cardiff played shit apart from last 10 mins of extra time, Burton almost won it on 88+ minutes.
The atmosphere, bunch of twats singing Germany Germany and 4-1 too the Germany etc.
McCormack in my opinion will be off, he threw his shirt in the crowd.

Wish I went West and watched Wales.

The Germany chants weren't too bad and were expected. Seem to remember seeing a Russian flag in the away section. Works both ways. Unfortunately Wales aren't in major tournaments for the English fans to chant the name of the country that beat us.


The game itself was a real bore. Fitness levels showed. The first 90minutes was like going back 15 years with the standard of football on display.

But its Germany!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do people not know they also killed Welsh people..

Whether it be in 1939-1945 or 1999-2005, it still happened.

Plenty of Welsh people have been killed by English.

could go into a history lesson here

I have been to Germany and got treated with far greater respect as a Welshman there than in England were I have had plenty of abuse for being Welsh.

But its Germany!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do people not know they also killed Welsh people..

Whether it be in 1939-1945 or 1999-2005, it still happened.

You cant blame the German people for the two world wars. Britain have killed enough people of the years in our colonisation of the globe.

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But when it comes down too it (frontline etc.) WE ARE ALL BRITISH

Plenty of Welsh people have been killed by English.

could go into a history lesson here

I have been to Germany and got treated with far greater respect as a Welshman there than in England were I have had plenty of abuse for being Welsh.

Hear Hear!

Its a matter of opinion, members of my familly were killed by the Germans so I guess its the way I was brought up.. A PROUD BRIT

But when it comes down too it (frontline etc.) WE ARE ALL BRITISH

True, but I won't not support Germany just because of the world wars. Its all history now and it isn't the German peoples fault. They are a different generation now.

I'll always support Britain, but I won't support them any more just because they are playing Japan, Germany, Argentina etc.

But when it comes down too it (frontline etc.) WE ARE ALL BRITISH

German troops have fought and died out in Afghanistan along with British troops.

Stayed until half time in extra time. Left to get train. Missed train by seconds. Realised we were stuck in Cardiff. Found out we missed 3 goals in 15 mins. Still tamping

Cardiff played shit apart from last 10 mins of extra time, Burton almost won it on 88+ minutes.
The atmosphere, bunch of twats singing Germany Germany and 4-1 too the Germany etc.
McCormack in my opinion will be off, he threw his shirt in the crowd.

Wish I went West and watched Wales.

I wish i stayed at home. 4 hour round trip. Left after 90mins.

guys i think your missing the point here.

HELLO

WORLD CUP 2010
germany V england
4 1

come on surly you all didnt forget that ?

But its Germany!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do people not know they also killed Welsh people..

Whether it be in 1939-1945 or 1999-2005, it still happened.

You cant blame the German people for the two world wars. .

Sorry but wasn't Hitler an elected politican..?

I wasnt aware that genocide and conquering the world was part of his manifesto.

Its a matter of opinion, members of my familly were killed by the Germans so I guess its the way I was brought up.. A PROUD BRIT

good for you billy, you where brought up the right way, well done.

I wasnt aware that genocide and conquering the world was part of his manifesto.

Using that theory then I suppose you dont blame the British people in voting in Blair only for him to invade Iraq.

What election did he state he would invade Iraq?

Cardiff played shit apart from last 10 mins of extra time, Burton almost won it on 88+ minutes.
The atmosphere, bunch of twats singing Germany Germany and 4-1 too the Germany etc.
McCormack in my opinion will be off, he threw his shirt in the crowd.

Wish I went West and watched Wales.

. Welsh not British

I will never chant Germany, or wave a flag

But its Germany!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do people not know they also killed Welsh people..

Whether it be in 1939-1945 or 1999-2005, it still happened.

You cant blame the German people for the two world wars. .

Sorry but wasn't Hitler an elected politican..?

Yes Hitler was. He was voted Chancellor (PM). But it wasn't the German peoples fault that when the President died Hitler broke constitution rules to elect himself supreme leader by getting rid of the chancellor and president posts and making himself fuhrer.

Also, the reperations that Germany had to pay after WW1 practically bankrupted Germany. Inflation was so ridiculous, a loaf of bread cost a few hundred deutchmarks. There would be baskets of money lying around on the street and no one would pick it up because it was worthless.

Then along came a man who had a fantastic 5year economic plan to fix it all. That's why the Germans voted for Hitler. They didn't vote for him thinking "let's kill people".

Anyone who disagreed with the regime, dissapeared and was never seen again. That's why there was no uprising.

If you want to point fingers at countries in the WW2, look no further than Russia. They acted the most evil durint the war. Stalin killed more Russians than Hitler did, by sending them into battle with no food and no weapons. On Russia's march into Berlin, 2million women were raped by Russian soldiers.

If you learn your history, your ignorance about the German people would disapear. What I have mentioned is only a FRACTION of German history. There is loads more to the WW.

BTW I have been to Germany a few times, nice people and a nice place.

But its Germany!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do people not know they also killed Welsh people..

Whether it be in 1939-1945 or 1999-2005, it still happened.

You cant blame the German people for the two world wars. .

Sorry but wasn't Hitler an elected politican..?

And havnt we heared of Operation Valkyre as there were plenty of Germans very much anti Hitler during the war and the plot to kill him very nearly worked . Im also sure that many of us know Stefan ( Hofmeister ) on this forum and he is a new breed German who's moved on from the past and is a realist to what happened well before he was born .

As for last night I didnt go but did Koumas change the game when he came on and was that defo Ross's last game ?

Cardiff played shit apart from last 10 mins of extra time, Burton almost won it on 88+ minutes.
The atmosphere, bunch of twats singing Germany Germany and 4-1 too the Germany etc.
McCormack in my opinion will be off, he threw his shirt in the crowd.

Wish I went West and watched Wales.

. Welsh not British

What does it say on your passports, driving lisense etc.

But when it comes down too it (frontline etc.) WE ARE ALL BRITISH

German troops have fought and died out in Afghanistan along with British troops.

Very few. They are primarily peace keepers in Afghanistan and will not fight.

This thread should be about football. As such, the English are our nearest rivals. Just as Swansea and Bristol are our league rivals.

Fook the English.