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Postby Forever Blue » Sun Mar 24, 2019 6:47 pm

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Monday 25th March 2019

Nantes say they are fully compliant with FIFA rules and point to the fact that FIFA registered the International Transfer Certificate on January 21, 2019 at 5.30pm.

A Cardiff spokesperson said: "The club is aware of FIFA's request for a response by April 3 and is processing that accordingly. We have no further comment at this stage."


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Monday 25th March 2019

Cardiff will on Wednesday present to Fifa.

Cardiff City Say Emiliano Sala was not their player.

Emiliano Sala had not put pen to paper on a new, revised deal.

The technical hitch surrounded the signing on fee.

Cardiff will argue Sala would have had to sign a revised deal in order to play in the Premier League. They are understood to also be keen on making the case that certain terms of their transfer agreement with Nantes had also not been fulfilled.

Nantes FC will also present their case.











Exclusive: Cardiff City plan to tell Fifa deal struck to buy Emiliano Sala became 'null and void' after he died

What Cardiff City will say on Wednesday to Fifa.

Cardiff City's Match Day Programme with a Daffodil as a tribute to Emiliano Sala


Cardiff City had front-loaded his signing-on fee in contravention of rules stipulating such money must be paid in equal instalments over the duration of a player’s contract.


Cardiff City are withholding the first instalment of the £15m fee to Nantes for Emiliano Sala and do not now intend to pay.

DAILY TELEGRAPH

SUNDAY 24 MARCH 2019

Cardiff City will tell Fifa the deal they struck to buy Emiliano Sala became “null and void” after he died when the club responds to a complaint over their refusal to pay Nantes his £15 million transfer fee.

The Daily Telegraph can reveal details of the case Cardiff plan to submit to football’s world governing body to explain their withholding of the first instalment of that fee amid a row over who owned Sala when he was tragically killed in a plane crash two months ago.

Their response, which they were given until next Wednesday to provide, will include the refusal of the Premier League to allow the striker to play in the competition over what can now be disclosed was a signing-on fee that was non-compliant with its rules.

It will also include what Cardiff will argue is the non-fulfilment of legally-binding clauses in the transfer agreement they struck with Nantes for the player.

As revealed by this newspaper last month, Sala signed a contract with Cardiff that was rejected by the Premier League only for him to be killed before a revised one could be signed.

It can now be disclosed it was rejected because Cardiff City had front-loaded his signing-on fee in contravention of rules stipulating such money must be paid in equal instalments over the duration of a player’s contract.

Sala would have had to sign a revised deal to play in the Premier League and The Telegraph can reveal there is a dispute about whether he had agreed to do so before he died.

Cardiff also plan to argue that a clause in the transfer agreement with Nantes – which they say the French club had even proposed – was not fulfilled.

A source close to the Premier League side told The Telegraph the agreement stipulated that the Football Association of Wales and France’s Ligue de Football Professionnel (LFP) had to confirm to both clubs that Sala “has been registered as a Cardiff City FC player and that the player’s International Transfer Certificate has been released”.





The source said this had not happened before Sala died on January 21, despite another clause stating both parties had to make “reasonable endeavours” to ensure all conditions in the agreement were met by the following day.

“The transfer agreement between Cardiff and Nantes was subject to several conditions,” the source said. “If any were not satisfied, the contract would be deemed null and void, with no payment due.”

The source added: “Nantes proposed that clause. They asked for the strict notification requirements.

“The transfer deadline was just over a week after that. So if the transfer didn’t complete on the 22nd of January, Nantes had time to find an alternative buyer for the player.
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Re: CARDIFF SAY DEAL WAS "NULL & VOID" AFTER SALA DIED

Postby wez1927 » Sun Mar 24, 2019 6:55 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Exclusive: Cardiff City plan to tell Fifa deal struck to buy Emiliano Sala became 'null and void' after he died

What Cardiff City will say on Wednesday to Fifa.

Cardiff City's Match Day Programme with a Daffodil as a tribute to Emiliano Sala


Cardiff City had front-loaded his signing-on fee in contravention of rules stipulating such money must be paid in equal instalments over the duration of a player’s contract.


Cardiff City are withholding the first instalment of the £15m fee to Nantes for Emiliano Sala and do not now intend to pay.

DAILY TELEGRAPH

SUNDAY 24 MARCH 2019

Cardiff City will tell Fifa the deal they struck to buy Emiliano Sala became “null and void” after he died when the club responds to a complaint over their refusal to pay Nantes his £15 million transfer fee.

The Daily Telegraph can reveal details of the case Cardiff plan to submit to football’s world governing body to explain their withholding of the first instalment of that fee amid a row over who owned Sala when he was tragically killed in a plane crash two months ago.

Their response, which they were given until next Wednesday to provide, will include the refusal of the Premier League to allow the striker to play in the competition over what can now be disclosed was a signing-on fee that was non-compliant with its rules.

It will also include what Cardiff will argue is the non-fulfilment of legally-binding clauses in the transfer agreement they struck with Nantes for the player.

As revealed by this newspaper last month, Sala signed a contract with Cardiff that was rejected by the Premier League only for him to be killed before a revised one could be signed.

It can now be disclosed it was rejected because Cardiff City had front-loaded his signing-on fee in contravention of rules stipulating such money must be paid in equal instalments over the duration of a player’s contract.

Sala would have had to sign a revised deal to play in the Premier League and The Telegraph can reveal there is a dispute about whether he had agreed to do so before he died.

Cardiff also plan to argue that a clause in the transfer agreement with Nantes – which they say the French club had even proposed – was not fulfilled.

A source close to the Premier League side told The Telegraph the agreement stipulated that the Football Association of Wales and France’s Ligue de Football Professionnel (LFP) had to confirm to both clubs that Sala “has been registered as a Cardiff City FC player and that the player’s International Transfer Certificate has been released”.





The source said this had not happened before Sala died on January 21, despite another clause stating both parties had to make “reasonable endeavours” to ensure all conditions in the agreement were met by the following day.

“The transfer agreement between Cardiff and Nantes was subject to several conditions,” the source said. “If any were not satisfied, the contract would be deemed null and void, with no payment due.”

The source added: “Nantes proposed that clause. They asked for the strict notification requirements.

“The transfer deadline was just over a week after that. So if the transfer didn’t complete on the 22nd of January, Nantes had time to find an alternative buyer for the player.

if the contract was bot not fulfilled then we shouldn't pay why should we pay when we don't have to? , i dont want us being 15 million plus light, it will really affect next season whatever league we are in
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Re: CARDIFF SAY DEAL WAS "NULL & VOID" AFTER SALA DIED

Postby grange_end1927 » Sun Mar 24, 2019 6:57 pm

This is just a f joke, embarrassing
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Re: CARDIFF SAY DEAL WAS "NULL & VOID" AFTER SALA DIED

Postby pembroke allan » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:07 pm

grange_end1927 wrote:This is just a f joke, embarrassing



What ia a joke? Think the explanation is quite clear and if true then Nantes have made the boob boob over contracts! It clearly states ameliano died before international clearance was completed! Yes its a messy buisness but at end day no one including you would part with 15m if contracts was not valid. :thumbup:
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Re: CARDIFF SAY DEAL WAS "NULL & VOID" AFTER SALA DIED

Postby wez1927 » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:10 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Exclusive: Cardiff City plan to tell Fifa deal struck to buy Emiliano Sala became 'null and void' after he died

What Cardiff City will say on Wednesday to Fifa.

Cardiff City's Match Day Programme with a Daffodil as a tribute to Emiliano Sala


Cardiff City had front-loaded his signing-on fee in contravention of rules stipulating such money must be paid in equal instalments over the duration of a player’s contract.


Cardiff City are withholding the first instalment of the £15m fee to Nantes for Emiliano Sala and do not now intend to pay.

DAILY TELEGRAPH

SUNDAY 24 MARCH 2019

Cardiff City will tell Fifa the deal they struck to buy Emiliano Sala became “null and void” after he died when the club responds to a complaint over their refusal to pay Nantes his £15 million transfer fee.

The Daily Telegraph can reveal details of the case Cardiff plan to submit to football’s world governing body to explain their withholding of the first instalment of that fee amid a row over who owned Sala when he was tragically killed in a plane crash two months ago.

Their response, which they were given until next Wednesday to provide, will include the refusal of the Premier League to allow the striker to play in the competition over what can now be disclosed was a signing-on fee that was non-compliant with its rules.

It will also include what Cardiff will argue is the non-fulfilment of legally-binding clauses in the transfer agreement they struck with Nantes for the player.

As revealed by this newspaper last month, Sala signed a contract with Cardiff that was rejected by the Premier League only for him to be killed before a revised one could be signed.

It can now be disclosed it was rejected because Cardiff City had front-loaded his signing-on fee in contravention of rules stipulating such money must be paid in equal instalments over the duration of a player’s contract.

Sala would have had to sign a revised deal to play in the Premier League and The Telegraph can reveal there is a dispute about whether he had agreed to do so before he died.

Cardiff also plan to argue that a clause in the transfer agreement with Nantes – which they say the French club had even proposed – was not fulfilled.

A source close to the Premier League side told The Telegraph the agreement stipulated that the Football Association of Wales and France’s Ligue de Football Professionnel (LFP) had to confirm to both clubs that Sala “has been registered as a Cardiff City FC player and that the player’s International Transfer Certificate has been released”.





The source said this had not happened before Sala died on January 21, despite another clause stating both parties had to make “reasonable endeavours” to ensure all conditions in the agreement were met by the following day.

“The transfer agreement between Cardiff and Nantes was subject to several conditions,” the source said. “If any were not satisfied, the contract would be deemed null and void, with no payment due.”

The source added: “Nantes proposed that clause. They asked for the strict notification requirements.

“The transfer deadline was just over a week after that. So if the transfer didn’t complete on the 22nd of January, Nantes had time to find an alternative buyer for the player.

if the contract was bot not fulfilled then we shouldn't pay why should we pay when we don't have to? , i dont want us being 15 million plus light, it will really affect next season whatever league we are in
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Re: CARDIFF SAY DEAL WAS "NULL & VOID" AFTER SALA DIED

Postby wez1927 » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:10 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
grange_end1927 wrote:This is just a f joke, embarrassing



What ia a joke? Think the explanation is quite clear and if true then Nantes have made the boob boob over contracts! It clearly states ameliano died before international clearance was completed! Yes its a messy buisness but at end day no one including you would part with 15m if contracts was not valid. :thumbup:

agree with you
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Re: CARDIFF SAY DEAL WAS "NULL & VOID" AFTER SALA DIED

Postby nins27 » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:13 pm

Why is it a joke if the deal was not done
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Postby nins27 » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:28 pm

if the deal was not done then great news for our club
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Re: CARDIFF SAY DEAL WAS "NULL & VOID" AFTER SALA DIED

Postby wez1927 » Sun Mar 24, 2019 7:44 pm

nins27 wrote:if the deal was not done then great news for our club

agree
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Re: CARDIFF SAY DEAL WAS "NULL & VOID" AFTER SALA DIED

Postby Ibby » Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:09 pm

Sorry, but as tragic as it is, the transfer was complete. He had become a Cardiff player, so therefore they should pay up. Sala had gone back on his own terms to say goodbye to people.
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Postby nins27 » Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:14 pm

Ibby wrote:Sorry, but as tragic as it is, the transfer was complete. He had become a Cardiff player, so therefore they should pay up. Sala had gone back on his own terms to say goodbye to people.


if the deal was not done then how is he a Cardiff player :banghead:
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Re: CARDIFF SAY DEAL WAS "NULL & VOID" AFTER SALA DIED

Postby castleblue » Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:20 pm

Much has been said in respect of this tragic story and many who have contributed to threads on this board have said Cardiff announced his signing and therefore he was our player and the club should pay £15m to Nantes.

However Cardiff announced the signing of ES "Subject To International Clearance" and if you believe this story by the Telegraph then we now know the International Clearance NEVER arrived. In simple terms that means there was no signing and therefore NO transfer fee is payable.

Many have said Cardiff should pay because the delay was solely down to the club making an error in the contract documentation submitted. Well the reality is Cardiff City, Nantes, both clubs lawyers, the player, the players agent, and any other party with an interest in this transfer, like the McKays ALL would have had access to these documents and they ALL failed to notice that the signing on fee had been "Front Loaded" in the contract contrary the PL & EFL rules which stipulate such fees must be spread by equal installments over the full term of the contract. In my opinion there is no way Cardiff City are solely responsible for that and the responsibility lies with everyone involved in negotiating, writing up the contract, reviewing the documents and signing them. If this is true they ALL have responsibility for this contract not being worth the paper it's written on.

This is good news for the club but I get a feeling this my rumble on for years and the only people to gain out of this will be the blood sucking lawyers.


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Postby BAMBA CREW » Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:23 pm

All this leaves a horrible taste in the mouth. Can't wait for it all to be over
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Re: CARDIFF SAY DEAL WAS "NULL & VOID" AFTER SALA DIED

Postby WelshPatriot » Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:28 pm

Ibby wrote:Sorry, but as tragic as it is, the transfer was complete. He had become a Cardiff player, so therefore they should pay up. Sala had gone back on his own terms to say goodbye to people.


What part of the article are you struggling with??
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Re: CARDIFF SAY DEAL WAS "NULL & VOID" AFTER SALA DIED

Postby WelshPatriot » Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:29 pm

grange_end1927 wrote:This is just a f joke, embarrassing


Embarrassing would be paying 15million for a player that wasn't ours legally.
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Postby Daya » Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:50 pm

Oh yes he was - oh no he wasn’t

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Postby Bazforth » Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:51 pm

grange_end1927 wrote:This is just a f joke, embarrassing



I concur, it leaves a very bad taste in the mouth.
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Postby wez1927 » Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:52 pm

WelshPatriot wrote:
grange_end1927 wrote:This is just a f joke, embarrassing


Embarrassing would be paying 15million for a player that wasn't ours legally.

agree
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Postby Daya » Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:52 pm

Will the Malaysians be subsidising the fans for flags like they are the Burnley Trip ?

They mugged you off chaps! ( once again)
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Postby 2blue2handle » Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:52 pm

If it wasn't complete I'm sure Nantes can claim on on their insurance.
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Postby wez1927 » Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:01 pm

2blue2handle wrote:If it wasn't complete I'm sure Nantes can claim on on their insurance.

exactly
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Postby Daya » Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:11 pm

2blue2handle wrote:If it wasn't complete I'm sure Nantes can claim on on their insurance.


Hopefully they can as Cardiff Couldn't as they didn't have enough :lol:

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Re: CARDIFF SAY DEAL WAS "NULL & VOID" AFTER SALA DIED

Postby Isawgarystevensscoreagoal » Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:23 pm

I'd like to turn the argument around. How would we fare, or be perceived, if we had paid in full when ES signed and we declared him our player then the tragic accident took and then we ask for our money back because of the outstanding contract technicalities?
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Postby Llan_Blue » Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:24 pm

Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:I'd like to turn the argument around. How would we fare, or be perceived, if we had paid in full when ES signed and we declared him our player then the tragic accident took and then we ask for our money back because of the outstanding contract technicalities?

That’s not how transfers work though so it’s irrelevant
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Postby NIBluebird » Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:26 pm

Ibby wrote:Sorry, but as tragic as it is, the transfer was complete. He had become a Cardiff player, so therefore they should pay up. Sala had gone back on his own terms to say goodbye to people.


Have you read the article ??
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Postby Daya » Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:28 pm

Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:I'd like to turn the argument around. How would we fare, or be perceived, if we had paid in full when ES signed and we declared him our player then the tragic accident took and then we ask for our money back because of the outstanding contract technicalities?


irrelevent really as 99.9% of deals are paid upfront.
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Postby worcester_ccfc » Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:47 pm

Embarrassing from our club.

All involved should be ashamed of themselves.
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Postby WelshPatriot » Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:49 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:Embarrassing from our club.

All involved should be ashamed of themselves.


Ridiculous! would you pay out in full for your house if contracts hadn't been exchanged??
The club is a business nothing more nothing less with a board paid to look after it's interests. That includes not paying out for a player that wasn't legally ours.
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Postby Igovernor » Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:50 pm

Daya wrote:Oh yes he was - oh no he wasn’t

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Postby Bluebird1990 » Sun Mar 24, 2019 9:56 pm

Daya do everyone a favour and f**k off you pathetic waste of oxygen
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