Fri May 17, 2019 1:34 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:BlueGog wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:Lengee wrote:Thank you for your comments Andysince76. They seem fair enough. However I certainly have not labelled anyone as a vile Nazi.
By the way, I watched a programme about descendants of the top Nazis on BBC 4 and it was very thought provoking and emotional. Worth watching on iplayer.
A stark reminder of where narrow minded racist nationalism can lead given strong leaders preaching hate in troubled economic times.
Of course we can bank on the BBC to have an unbiased view of things. Funny how they did not report last nights attempts in Merthyr to stop people getting to the Farage meeting by remainers who blocked the road, obviously these were people who do not believe in free speech.
Looks like the Merthyr rally was a bit of a non-event! Compare it with last Saturdays independence march in Cardiff, oh and by the way the BBC didn't report that either!
If you think that photograph in Trago Mills car park shows the total number who turned up, you really are living on a different planet. The actual speeches made are available for anyone to see, as are the people who attended. You can take a photograph of the CCS an hour before kick off and see very few fans in the ground, that does'nt mean it will be empty at kick off time. Lets see how Plaid perform in comparrison to a party that has only been in existence for a couple of months at next weeks elections.
Fri May 17, 2019 2:20 pm
BlueGog wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:BlueGog wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:Lengee wrote:Thank you for your comments Andysince76. They seem fair enough. However I certainly have not labelled anyone as a vile Nazi.
By the way, I watched a programme about descendants of the top Nazis on BBC 4 and it was very thought provoking and emotional. Worth watching on iplayer.
A stark reminder of where narrow minded racist nationalism can lead given strong leaders preaching hate in troubled economic times.
Of course we can bank on the BBC to have an unbiased view of things. Funny how they did not report last nights attempts in Merthyr to stop people getting to the Farage meeting by remainers who blocked the road, obviously these were people who do not believe in free speech.
Looks like the Merthyr rally was a bit of a non-event! Compare it with last Saturdays independence march in Cardiff, oh and by the way the BBC didn't report that either!
If you think that photograph in Trago Mills car park shows the total number who turned up, you really are living on a different planet. The actual speeches made are available for anyone to see, as are the people who attended. You can take a photograph of the CCS an hour before kick off and see very few fans in the ground, that does'nt mean it will be empty at kick off time. Lets see how Plaid perform in comparrison to a party that has only been in existence for a couple of months at next weeks elections.
Here's another photo from today's Mirror, the caption under it says: "LOW TURNOUT Event in car park failed to draw huge crowds organisers hoped."
Merthyr got it right, no place for fascist in Wales.
Fri May 17, 2019 3:46 pm
Fri May 17, 2019 3:54 pm
BlueGog wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:BlueGog wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:Lengee wrote:Thank you for your comments Andysince76. They seem fair enough. However I certainly have not labelled anyone as a vile Nazi.
By the way, I watched a programme about descendants of the top Nazis on BBC 4 and it was very thought provoking and emotional. Worth watching on iplayer.
A stark reminder of where narrow minded racist nationalism can lead given strong leaders preaching hate in troubled economic times.
Of course we can bank on the BBC to have an unbiased view of things. Funny how they did not report last nights attempts in Merthyr to stop people getting to the Farage meeting by remainers who blocked the road, obviously these were people who do not believe in free speech.
Looks like the Merthyr rally was a bit of a non-event! Compare it with last Saturdays independence march in Cardiff, oh and by the way the BBC didn't report that either!
If you think that photograph in Trago Mills car park shows the total number who turned up, you really are living on a different planet. The actual speeches made are available for anyone to see, as are the people who attended. You can take a photograph of the CCS an hour before kick off and see very few fans in the ground, that does'nt mean it will be empty at kick off time. Lets see how Plaid perform in comparrison to a party that has only been in existence for a couple of months at next weeks elections.
Here's another photo from today's Mirror, the caption under it says: "LOW TURNOUT Event in car park failed to draw huge crowds organisers hoped."
Merthyr got it right, no place for fascist in Wales.
Fri May 17, 2019 5:36 pm
Jock wrote:BlueGog wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:BlueGog wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:Lengee wrote:Thank you for your comments Andysince76. They seem fair enough. However I certainly have not labelled anyone as a vile Nazi.
By the way, I watched a programme about descendants of the top Nazis on BBC 4 and it was very thought provoking and emotional. Worth watching on iplayer.
A stark reminder of where narrow minded racist nationalism can lead given strong leaders preaching hate in troubled economic times.
Of course we can bank on the BBC to have an unbiased view of things. Funny how they did not report last nights attempts in Merthyr to stop people getting to the Farage meeting by remainers who blocked the road, obviously these were people who do not believe in free speech.
Looks like the Merthyr rally was a bit of a non-event! Compare it with last Saturdays independence march in Cardiff, oh and by the way the BBC didn't report that either!
If you think that photograph in Trago Mills car park shows the total number who turned up, you really are living on a different planet. The actual speeches made are available for anyone to see, as are the people who attended. You can take a photograph of the CCS an hour before kick off and see very few fans in the ground, that does'nt mean it will be empty at kick off time. Lets see how Plaid perform in comparrison to a party that has only been in existence for a couple of months at next weeks elections.
Here's another photo from today's Mirror, the caption under it says: "LOW TURNOUT Event in car park failed to draw huge crowds organisers hoped."
Merthyr got it right, no place for fascist in Wales.
So voting to leave a protectionist block ran by unelected trough guzzelers makes me a Facist
Fri May 17, 2019 6:07 pm
BlueGog wrote:Jock wrote:BlueGog wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:BlueGog wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:Lengee wrote:Thank you for your comments Andysince76. They seem fair enough. However I certainly have not labelled anyone as a vile Nazi.
By the way, I watched a programme about descendants of the top Nazis on BBC 4 and it was very thought provoking and emotional. Worth watching on iplayer.
A stark reminder of where narrow minded racist nationalism can lead given strong leaders preaching hate in troubled economic times.
Of course we can bank on the BBC to have an unbiased view of things. Funny how they did not report last nights attempts in Merthyr to stop people getting to the Farage meeting by remainers who blocked the road, obviously these were people who do not believe in free speech.
Looks like the Merthyr rally was a bit of a non-event! Compare it with last Saturdays independence march in Cardiff, oh and by the way the BBC didn't report that either!
If you think that photograph in Trago Mills car park shows the total number who turned up, you really are living on a different planet. The actual speeches made are available for anyone to see, as are the people who attended. You can take a photograph of the CCS an hour before kick off and see very few fans in the ground, that does'nt mean it will be empty at kick off time. Lets see how Plaid perform in comparrison to a party that has only been in existence for a couple of months at next weeks elections.
Here's another photo from today's Mirror, the caption under it says: "LOW TURNOUT Event in car park failed to draw huge crowds organisers hoped."
Merthyr got it right, no place for fascist in Wales.
So voting to leave a protectionist block ran by unelected trough guzzelers makes me a Facist
Ummmh? Haven't we got elections next week? Unelected - not.
As for fascists, I wasn't thinking of the audience, if you were there or planning to vote for them, but Farage is a very dangerous, far right individual who holds fascist views. Charismatic, good orator, speaks in soundbites, popular with the ordinary man, just like Hitler. Oh, and he was elected too!
Fri May 17, 2019 6:17 pm
Fri May 17, 2019 6:23 pm
Fri May 17, 2019 6:29 pm
Jock wrote:BlueGog wrote:Jock wrote:BlueGog wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:BlueGog wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:Lengee wrote:Thank you for your comments Andysince76. They seem fair enough. However I certainly have not labelled anyone as a vile Nazi.
By the way, I watched a programme about descendants of the top Nazis on BBC 4 and it was very thought provoking and emotional. Worth watching on iplayer.
A stark reminder of where narrow minded racist nationalism can lead given strong leaders preaching hate in troubled economic times.
Of course we can bank on the BBC to have an unbiased view of things. Funny how they did not report last nights attempts in Merthyr to stop people getting to the Farage meeting by remainers who blocked the road, obviously these were people who do not believe in free speech.
Looks like the Merthyr rally was a bit of a non-event! Compare it with last Saturdays independence march in Cardiff, oh and by the way the BBC didn't report that either!
If you think that photograph in Trago Mills car park shows the total number who turned up, you really are living on a different planet. The actual speeches made are available for anyone to see, as are the people who attended. You can take a photograph of the CCS an hour before kick off and see very few fans in the ground, that does'nt mean it will be empty at kick off time. Lets see how Plaid perform in comparrison to a party that has only been in existence for a couple of months at next weeks elections.
Here's another photo from today's Mirror, the caption under it says: "LOW TURNOUT Event in car park failed to draw huge crowds organisers hoped."
Merthyr got it right, no place for fascist in Wales.
So voting to leave a protectionist block ran by unelected trough guzzelers makes me a Facist
Ummmh? Haven't we got elections next week? Unelected - not.
As for fascists, I wasn't thinking of the audience, if you were there or planning to vote for them, but Farage is a very dangerous, far right individual who holds fascist views. Charismatic, good orator, speaks in soundbites, popular with the ordinary man, just like Hitler. Oh, and he was elected too!
You really are very stupid but I can’t resist, what Facist views does Farrage hold.
When did we get a vote to decide who the EU President is? Did you vote for Tusk, Barnier, Junkers, Verhofstat or Selmyr?
Fri May 17, 2019 6:34 pm
Jock wrote:BlueGog wrote:Jock wrote:BlueGog wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:BlueGog wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:Lengee wrote:Thank you for your comments Andysince76. They seem fair enough. However I certainly have not labelled anyone as a vile Nazi.
By the way, I watched a programme about descendants of the top Nazis on BBC 4 and it was very thought provoking and emotional. Worth watching on iplayer.
A stark reminder of where narrow minded racist nationalism can lead given strong leaders preaching hate in troubled economic times.
Of course we can bank on the BBC to have an unbiased view of things. Funny how they did not report last nights attempts in Merthyr to stop people getting to the Farage meeting by remainers who blocked the road, obviously these were people who do not believe in free speech.
Looks like the Merthyr rally was a bit of a non-event! Compare it with last Saturdays independence march in Cardiff, oh and by the way the BBC didn't report that either!
If you think that photograph in Trago Mills car park shows the total number who turned up, you really are living on a different planet. The actual speeches made are available for anyone to see, as are the people who attended. You can take a photograph of the CCS an hour before kick off and see very few fans in the ground, that does'nt mean it will be empty at kick off time. Lets see how Plaid perform in comparrison to a party that has only been in existence for a couple of months at next weeks elections.
Here's another photo from today's Mirror, the caption under it says: "LOW TURNOUT Event in car park failed to draw huge crowds organisers hoped."
Merthyr got it right, no place for fascist in Wales.
So voting to leave a protectionist block ran by unelected trough guzzelers makes me a Facist
Ummmh? Haven't we got elections next week? Unelected - not.
As for fascists, I wasn't thinking of the audience, if you were there or planning to vote for them, but Farage is a very dangerous, far right individual who holds fascist views. Charismatic, good orator, speaks in soundbites, popular with the ordinary man, just like Hitler. Oh, and he was elected too!
You really are very stupid but I can’t resist, what Facist views does Farrage hold.
When did we get a vote to decide who the EU President is? Did you vote for Tusk, Barnier, Junkers, Verhofstat or Selmyr?
Fri May 17, 2019 6:35 pm
Fri May 17, 2019 6:41 pm
BlueGog wrote:Jock wrote:BlueGog wrote:Jock wrote:BlueGog wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:BlueGog wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:Lengee wrote:Thank you for your comments Andysince76. They seem fair enough. However I certainly have not labelled anyone as a vile Nazi.
By the way, I watched a programme about descendants of the top Nazis on BBC 4 and it was very thought provoking and emotional. Worth watching on iplayer.
A stark reminder of where narrow minded racist nationalism can lead given strong leaders preaching hate in troubled economic times.
Of course we can bank on the BBC to have an unbiased view of things. Funny how they did not report last nights attempts in Merthyr to stop people getting to the Farage meeting by remainers who blocked the road, obviously these were people who do not believe in free speech.
Looks like the Merthyr rally was a bit of a non-event! Compare it with last Saturdays independence march in Cardiff, oh and by the way the BBC didn't report that either!
If you think that photograph in Trago Mills car park shows the total number who turned up, you really are living on a different planet. The actual speeches made are available for anyone to see, as are the people who attended. You can take a photograph of the CCS an hour before kick off and see very few fans in the ground, that does'nt mean it will be empty at kick off time. Lets see how Plaid perform in comparrison to a party that has only been in existence for a couple of months at next weeks elections.
Here's another photo from today's Mirror, the caption under it says: "LOW TURNOUT Event in car park failed to draw huge crowds organisers hoped."
Merthyr got it right, no place for fascist in Wales.
So voting to leave a protectionist block ran by unelected trough guzzelers makes me a Facist
Ummmh? Haven't we got elections next week? Unelected - not.
As for fascists, I wasn't thinking of the audience, if you were there or planning to vote for them, but Farage is a very dangerous, far right individual who holds fascist views. Charismatic, good orator, speaks in soundbites, popular with the ordinary man, just like Hitler. Oh, and he was elected too!
You really are very stupid but I can’t resist, what Facist views does Farrage hold.
When did we get a vote to decide who the EU President is? Did you vote for Tusk, Barnier, Junkers, Verhofstat or Selmyr?
Below explains how the EU works. As you can see the Parliament (elected next week) passes new laws.
The European Commission does the day-to-day work of running the EU. It does things like proposing new laws for the European Parliament to vote on, and makes sure that that the laws the European Parliament has passed are used properly. It is based in Brussels (Belgium).
The European Parliament decides whether suggestions from the European Commission should be made into new laws. It helps to decide how much money the EU should spend. It also checks that all the other parts of the EU are working fairly. It is based across Strasbourg (France), Brussels (Belgium) and Luxembourg.
There's so many lies and untruths around you just cant see the wood from the trees.
Fri May 17, 2019 6:41 pm
rumpo kid wrote:Bluegog is still in school... we can’t expect any better.
Fri May 17, 2019 6:58 pm
Lengee wrote:Sir Jimmy
You made a comment that Junckers father was a Real Nazi and a war criminal. Rather than admitting you were wrong you chose to move the goalposts.
I was going to quote your last thread and answer it. But imho it was just long winded twaddle- and that's being kind.
All the best
And remember... Gorau prinder, prinder geiriau.
Fri May 17, 2019 7:04 pm
Fri May 17, 2019 7:25 pm
Fri May 17, 2019 7:39 pm
Jock wrote:Fact: Soros denied he was Jewish to save himself from the camps
Fri May 17, 2019 8:41 pm
Fri May 17, 2019 8:57 pm
BlueGog wrote:This post started out about Wales and independence but somehow like everything else these days it's been hijacked by Brexit.
Farage couldn't answer when was asked by a reporter the other night what the Brexit party can offer Wales. Possibly one of his supporters on here can answer that question?
I know that man in the first video here can offer Wales a bright future, go on, I dare you to listen
https://www.facebook.com/PlaidCymruWale ... 388473522/
Fri May 17, 2019 9:03 pm
paulh_85 wrote:good to see SJS still spouts unrepentant nonsense
Fri May 17, 2019 9:04 pm
SirJimmySchoular wrote:BlueGog wrote:This post started out about Wales and independence but somehow like everything else these days it's been hijacked by Brexit.
Farage couldn't answer when was asked by a reporter the other night what the Brexit party can offer Wales. Possibly one of his supporters on here can answer that question?
I know that man in the first video here can offer Wales a bright future, go on, I dare you to listen
https://www.facebook.com/PlaidCymruWale ... 388473522/
I'm sure he can offer it, but could he deliver it ?
In any case, you start off complaining that the threads been hijacked by Brexit. It was hyjacked by Remoaners in point of fact, but still I agree that it's been hyjacked as I said earlier .
What's strange is that you follow up by talking about Brexit .
Fri May 17, 2019 10:45 pm
SirJimmySchoular wrote: Malum consilium quod mutari non potest
Sat May 18, 2019 12:10 am
CityBlue93 wrote:SirJimmySchoular wrote: Malum consilium quod mutari non potest
How does that relate to the conversation you were having?
Sat May 18, 2019 8:08 am
CityBlue93 wrote:Jock wrote:Fact: Soros denied he was Jewish to save himself from the camps
'child aged between 9 and 14 lies about his religion to avoid being gassed'. What a c**t Soros is.
Sat May 18, 2019 8:11 am
BlueGog wrote:SirJimmySchoular wrote:BlueGog wrote:This post started out about Wales and independence but somehow like everything else these days it's been hijacked by Brexit.
Farage couldn't answer when was asked by a reporter the other night what the Brexit party can offer Wales. Possibly one of his supporters on here can answer that question?
I know that man in the first video here can offer Wales a bright future, go on, I dare you to listen
https://www.facebook.com/PlaidCymruWale ... 388473522/
I'm sure he can offer it, but could he deliver it ?
In any case, you start off complaining that the threads been hijacked by Brexit. It was hyjacked by Remoaners in point of fact, but still I agree that it's been hyjacked as I said earlier .
What's strange is that you follow up by talking about Brexit .
Can you answer my question what can the Brexit Party offer Wales?
Sat May 18, 2019 8:25 am
BlueGog wrote:Jock wrote:BlueGog wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:BlueGog wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:Lengee wrote:Thank you for your comments Andysince76. They seem fair enough. However I certainly have not labelled anyone as a vile Nazi.
By the way, I watched a programme about descendants of the top Nazis on BBC 4 and it was very thought provoking and emotional. Worth watching on iplayer.
A stark reminder of where narrow minded racist nationalism can lead given strong leaders preaching hate in troubled economic times.
Of course we can bank on the BBC to have an unbiased view of things. Funny how they did not report last nights attempts in Merthyr to stop people getting to the Farage meeting by remainers who blocked the road, obviously these were people who do not believe in free speech.
Looks like the Merthyr rally was a bit of a non-event! Compare it with last Saturdays independence march in Cardiff, oh and by the way the BBC didn't report that either!
If you think that photograph in Trago Mills car park shows the total number who turned up, you really are living on a different planet. The actual speeches made are available for anyone to see, as are the people who attended. You can take a photograph of the CCS an hour before kick off and see very few fans in the ground, that does'nt mean it will be empty at kick off time. Lets see how Plaid perform in comparrison to a party that has only been in existence for a couple of months at next weeks elections.
Here's another photo from today's Mirror, the caption under it says: "LOW TURNOUT Event in car park failed to draw huge crowds organisers hoped."
Merthyr got it right, no place for fascist in Wales.
So voting to leave a protectionist block ran by unelected trough guzzelers makes me a Facist
Ummmh? Haven't we got elections next week? Unelected - not.
As for fascists, I wasn't thinking of the audience, if you were there or planning to vote for them, but Farage is a very dangerous, far right individual who holds fascist views. Charismatic, good orator, speaks in soundbites, popular with the ordinary man, just like Hitler. Oh, and he was elected too!
Sat May 18, 2019 8:32 am
BlueGog wrote:SirJimmySchoular wrote:BlueGog wrote:This post started out about Wales and independence but somehow like everything else these days it's been hijacked by Brexit.
Farage couldn't answer when was asked by a reporter the other night what the Brexit party can offer Wales. Possibly one of his supporters on here can answer that question?
I know that man in the first video here can offer Wales a bright future, go on, I dare you to listen
https://www.facebook.com/PlaidCymruWale ... 388473522/
I'm sure he can offer it, but could he deliver it ?
In any case, you start off complaining that the threads been hijacked by Brexit. It was hyjacked by Remoaners in point of fact, but still I agree that it's been hyjacked as I said earlier .
What's strange is that you follow up by talking about Brexit .
Can you answer my question what can the Brexit Party offer Wales?
Sat May 18, 2019 9:09 am
SirJimmySchoular wrote:BlueGog wrote:SirJimmySchoular wrote:BlueGog wrote:This post started out about Wales and independence but somehow like everything else these days it's been hijacked by Brexit.
Farage couldn't answer when was asked by a reporter the other night what the Brexit party can offer Wales. Possibly one of his supporters on here can answer that question?
I know that man in the first video here can offer Wales a bright future, go on, I dare you to listen
https://www.facebook.com/PlaidCymruWale ... 388473522/
I'm sure he can offer it, but could he deliver it ?
In any case, you start off complaining that the threads been hijacked by Brexit. It was hyjacked by Remoaners in point of fact, but still I agree that it's been hyjacked as I said earlier .
What's strange is that you follow up by talking about Brexit .
Can you answer my question what can the Brexit Party offer Wales?
Well I suppose so.
Reluctantly, because it's not the subject of this thread and it's completely irrelevant to it. I'm not standing for election so it's not my job to tell you that any away , but otherwise you'll accuse me of evading the issue .
I should think what they'll do for Wales is to deliver what Wales has voted for - same as they'll do for everyone else in Britain.
Behind that, I'm not getting drawn into various local issues which are even further away from the subject here.
Anyway, someone here said you're still at school. If that's so you're making a brave effort but I'd caution you against concentrating your efforts on politics at your age because that could easily lead to a career in politics, which is a terrible waste of a life.
Sat May 18, 2019 11:10 am
Sat May 18, 2019 1:01 pm
SirJimmySchoular wrote:No, you're absolutely right.
If you read my post addressing this I can assure you that the overwhelming majority of people fighting that war had absolutely no political motivation and by today's standards would be considered very racist and much further right than Nigel Farage.
This revamping of ww2 to suit the agenda of leftists and politically correct theorists is very dishonest and baseless .