nickjonesrox2 wrote:Hopefully Warnock and the club can see we need more quality in our midfield now.
Vaulks is a solid start but we need more quality after losing the craft of Camarasa, the steel of Gunnar & the energy of Arter.
If they think we can stroll into the season with Ralls, Bacuna & Vaulks we will get destroyed. Ralls is a squad player at best & Bacuna has limitations.
Good to get Vaulks in but much more work to be done on the squad.
2blue2handle wrote:nickjonesrox2 wrote:Hopefully Warnock and the club can see we need more quality in our midfield now.
Vaulks is a solid start but we need more quality after losing the craft of Camarasa, the steel of Gunnar & the energy of Arter.
If they think we can stroll into the season with Ralls, Bacuna & Vaulks we will get destroyed. Ralls is a squad player at best & Bacuna has limitations.
Good to get Vaulks in but much more work to be done on the squad.
Arter and Camarasa are a big loss but are premier league players.
Vaulks and Ralls have the potential to be starters week in week out. Bacuna it seems will be the back up.
I think we need one piece of real quality in the middle to add to it.
2blue2handle wrote:nickjonesrox2 wrote:Hopefully Warnock and the club can see we need more quality in our midfield now.
Vaulks is a solid start but we need more quality after losing the craft of Camarasa, the steel of Gunnar & the energy of Arter.
If they think we can stroll into the season with Ralls, Bacuna & Vaulks we will get destroyed. Ralls is a squad player at best & Bacuna has limitations.
Good to get Vaulks in but much more work to be done on the squad.
Arter and Camarasa are a big loss but are premier league players.
Vaulks and Ralls have the potential to be starters week in week out. Bacuna it seems will be the back up.
I think we need one piece of real quality in the middle to add to it.
nickjonesrox2 wrote:Hopefully Warnock and the club can see we need more quality in our midfield now.
Vaulks is a solid start but we need more quality after losing the craft of Camarasa, the steel of Gunnar & the energy of Arter.
If they think we can stroll into the season with Ralls, Bacuna & Vaulks we will get destroyed. Ralls is a squad player at best & Bacuna has limitations.
Good to get Vaulks in but much more work to be done on the squad.
dogfound wrote:2blue2handle wrote:nickjonesrox2 wrote:Hopefully Warnock and the club can see we need more quality in our midfield now.
Vaulks is a solid start but we need more quality after losing the craft of Camarasa, the steel of Gunnar & the energy of Arter.
If they think we can stroll into the season with Ralls, Bacuna & Vaulks we will get destroyed. Ralls is a squad player at best & Bacuna has limitations.
Good to get Vaulks in but much more work to be done on the squad.
Arter and Camarasa are a big loss but are premier league players.
Vaulks and Ralls have the potential to be starters week in week out. Bacuna it seems will be the back up.
I think we need one piece of real quality in the middle to add to it.
I think Bacuna will be a starter and was bought with Gunner leaving in mind { Gunner signed the pre contract in January }..
Tomshort1927 wrote:What’s everyone’s issue with ralls and bacuna? Bacuna hasn’t even put a foot wrong for us in the prem ffs. I agree we need more squad depth but to suggest they’re nothing more than squad players is ridiculous.
2blue2handle wrote:dogfound wrote:2blue2handle wrote:nickjonesrox2 wrote:Hopefully Warnock and the club can see we need more quality in our midfield now.
Vaulks is a solid start but we need more quality after losing the craft of Camarasa, the steel of Gunnar & the energy of Arter.
If they think we can stroll into the season with Ralls, Bacuna & Vaulks we will get destroyed. Ralls is a squad player at best & Bacuna has limitations.
Good to get Vaulks in but much more work to be done on the squad.
Arter and Camarasa are a big loss but are premier league players.
Vaulks and Ralls have the potential to be starters week in week out. Bacuna it seems will be the back up.
I think we need one piece of real quality in the middle to add to it.
I think Bacuna will be a starter and was bought with Gunner leaving in mind { Gunner signed the pre contract in January }..
Will be interesting, I really didn't think a lot of him from what I seen. Didn't really do much of what Gunner does.
dogfound wrote:2blue2handle wrote:dogfound wrote:2blue2handle wrote:nickjonesrox2 wrote:Hopefully Warnock and the club can see we need more quality in our midfield now.
Vaulks is a solid start but we need more quality after losing the craft of Camarasa, the steel of Gunnar & the energy of Arter.
If they think we can stroll into the season with Ralls, Bacuna & Vaulks we will get destroyed. Ralls is a squad player at best & Bacuna has limitations.
Good to get Vaulks in but much more work to be done on the squad.
Arter and Camarasa are a big loss but are premier league players.
Vaulks and Ralls have the potential to be starters week in week out. Bacuna it seems will be the back up.
I think we need one piece of real quality in the middle to add to it.
I think Bacuna will be a starter and was bought with Gunner leaving in mind { Gunner signed the pre contract in January }..
Will be interesting, I really didn't think a lot of him from what I seen. Didn't really do much of what Gunner does.
but he played mostly with Gunner not instead of. spent his time filling in gaps and replacing who was injured/tired...
Wolfpac wrote:Shambolic post, Ralls is a great Champs player, but I am concerned with Bacuna, does nothing to wet my appetite.
nubbsy wrote:Wolfpac wrote:Shambolic post, Ralls is a great Champs player, but I am concerned with Bacuna, does nothing to wet my appetite.
Are you really anyone to call a post "shambolic"?
Whether you agree or not, the OP puts his opinion across well, which more than can be said about your posts.
The OP is right, we need more quality. Ralls can defo do a job in the championship but I'd rather see us bring in someone better and have him as solid, reliable back up option.
Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:nubbsy wrote:Wolfpac wrote:Shambolic post, Ralls is a great Champs player, but I am concerned with Bacuna, does nothing to wet my appetite.
Are you really anyone to call a post "shambolic"?
Whether you agree or not, the OP puts his opinion across well, which more than can be said about your posts.
The OP is right, we need more quality. Ralls can defo do a job in the championship but I'd rather see us bring in someone better and have him as solid, reliable back up option.
So with your theory we’d need to bring in another 2/3 CM in after Vaulks? Because Ralls is certainly the best CM at the club. I can’t see Warnock spending money on bringing in 3/4 CM’s when it’s probably good enough already. We’ve only lost Gunners from the promotion winning squad, and he was injured for most of that. It seems to me that people are wanting a PL team, when the team that got us promoted is still here and has got improvements.
dogfound wrote:Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:nubbsy wrote:Wolfpac wrote:Shambolic post, Ralls is a great Champs player, but I am concerned with Bacuna, does nothing to wet my appetite.
Are you really anyone to call a post "shambolic"?
Whether you agree or not, the OP puts his opinion across well, which more than can be said about your posts.
The OP is right, we need more quality. Ralls can defo do a job in the championship but I'd rather see us bring in someone better and have him as solid, reliable back up option.
So with your theory we’d need to bring in another 2/3 CM in after Vaulks? Because Ralls is certainly the best CM at the club. I can’t see Warnock spending money on bringing in 3/4 CM’s when it’s probably good enough already. We’ve only lost Gunners from the promotion winning squad, and he was injured for most of that. It seems to me that people are wanting a PL team, when the team that got us promoted is still here and has got improvements.
your correct about most of our promotion team still being here but I hoped that should we bounce back this time we wouldn't be quite so short on quality .not sure Vaulks provides that ...im still living in hope as im sure Warnock said 5 or 6 additions..i don't think people want a premier league team but enough improvement that should we get there again 4 or 5 will then give us a fighting chance of staying there..
Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:dogfound wrote:Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:nubbsy wrote:Wolfpac wrote:Shambolic post, Ralls is a great Champs player, but I am concerned with Bacuna, does nothing to wet my appetite.
Are you really anyone to call a post "shambolic"?
Whether you agree or not, the OP puts his opinion across well, which more than can be said about your posts.
The OP is right, we need more quality. Ralls can defo do a job in the championship but I'd rather see us bring in someone better and have him as solid, reliable back up option.
So with your theory we’d need to bring in another 2/3 CM in after Vaulks? Because Ralls is certainly the best CM at the club. I can’t see Warnock spending money on bringing in 3/4 CM’s when it’s probably good enough already. We’ve only lost Gunners from the promotion winning squad, and he was injured for most of that. It seems to me that people are wanting a PL team, when the team that got us promoted is still here and has got improvements.
your correct about most of our promotion team still being here but I hoped that should we bounce back this time we wouldn't be quite so short on quality .not sure Vaulks provides that ...im still living in hope as im sure Warnock said 5 or 6 additions..i don't think people want a premier league team but enough improvement that should we get there again 4 or 5 will then give us a fighting chance of staying there..
I understand what you mean, but we’re not really going to be able to attract PL standard players unless they are loaned or if we’re near the top in January. But we do need to improve the squad as that’s always the aim every window.
aberdare-blue wrote:Cardiff will play with 2 holding midfielders next season is my bet ralls and vaulks or bacuna, why r people asking bout quality.
The quality will be Bobby Reid who will play 10 to replace camarasa so I don't know why we keep asking for more quality in midfield.
Gunners can only pass 10yrds so can ralls so we've never had s deep CM who gets on the ball since whitts and mcphail.
Bacuna best technically out of em all. Got Paterson who can also play in 10 role if needed or do a job CM with his physicallity and energy
Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:nubbsy wrote:Wolfpac wrote:Shambolic post, Ralls is a great Champs player, but I am concerned with Bacuna, does nothing to wet my appetite.
Are you really anyone to call a post "shambolic"?
Whether you agree or not, the OP puts his opinion across well, which more than can be said about your posts.
The OP is right, we need more quality. Ralls can defo do a job in the championship but I'd rather see us bring in someone better and have him as solid, reliable back up option.
So with your theory we’d need to bring in another 2/3 CM in after Vaulks? Because Ralls is certainly the best CM at the club. I can’t see Warnock spending money on bringing in 3/4 CM’s when it’s probably good enough already. We’ve only lost Gunners from the promotion winning squad, and he was injured for most of that. It seems to me that people are wanting a PL team, when the team that got us promoted is still here and has got improvements.
2blue2handle wrote:aberdare-blue wrote:Cardiff will play with 2 holding midfielders next season is my bet ralls and vaulks or bacuna, why r people asking bout quality.
The quality will be Bobby Reid who will play 10 to replace camarasa so I don't know why we keep asking for more quality in midfield.
Gunners can only pass 10yrds so can ralls so we've never had s deep CM who gets on the ball since whitts and mcphail.
Bacuna best technically out of em all. Got Paterson who can also play in 10 role if needed or do a job CM with his physicallity and energy
Totally agree, you have to wonder if some people have seen us play under Warnock with some of the suggestions. Your post is exactly how I see it.
nubbsy wrote:Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:nubbsy wrote:Wolfpac wrote:Shambolic post, Ralls is a great Champs player, but I am concerned with Bacuna, does nothing to wet my appetite.
Are you really anyone to call a post "shambolic"?
Whether you agree or not, the OP puts his opinion across well, which more than can be said about your posts.
The OP is right, we need more quality. Ralls can defo do a job in the championship but I'd rather see us bring in someone better and have him as solid, reliable back up option.
So with your theory we’d need to bring in another 2/3 CM in after Vaulks? Because Ralls is certainly the best CM at the club. I can’t see Warnock spending money on bringing in 3/4 CM’s when it’s probably good enough already. We’ve only lost Gunners from the promotion winning squad, and he was injured for most of that. It seems to me that people are wanting a PL team, when the team that got us promoted is still here and has got improvements.
What on earth are you talking about?
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