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NEW SIGNING

Sat Aug 21, 2010 12:07 pm

The player we have agreed terms for on a season long loan is Glenn Loovens.

Gerrard is lined up to go to Sheff Weds.

Great news , now go and get a back up for Jay :ayatollah:

Re: NEW SIGNING

Sat Aug 21, 2010 12:09 pm

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: f*cking BRILLIANT NEWS!

Glen Loovens is a brilliant left back, though I'd prefer to put Gyepes on loan and keep Gerrard.

Re: NEW SIGNING

Sat Aug 21, 2010 12:11 pm

Carl this is great news. I just didn't realise how big DJ's wish list was. If we get tight at the back now I really think we can do it this season.
:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: NEW SIGNING

Sat Aug 21, 2010 12:12 pm

carlccfc wrote:The player we have agreed terms for on a season long loan is Glenn Loovens.

Gerrard is lined up to go to Sheff Weds.

Great news , now go and get a back up for Jay :ayatollah:


Victor Anichebe I hope Carl !

Re: NEW SIGNING

Sat Aug 21, 2010 12:13 pm

So happy to see him back. Welcome back lad!

Re: NEW SIGNING

Sat Aug 21, 2010 12:28 pm

Annis mentioned earlier that it's with a view to a £2.5m move at the end of the season. Loovens is a good player but Im not sure he's worth that much. Hopefully he will prove that he is worth that and more! Welcome back Glenn !!

Re: NEW SIGNING

Sat Aug 21, 2010 12:32 pm

Are we still going to sign Riggott??

What a f*cking side he's putting together

Re: NEW SIGNING

Sat Aug 21, 2010 1:10 pm

i thought you couldnt have more than 4 players on season long loans? so is loovens on loan for 3 months so basically they will keep renewing the loan when it runs out?

Re: NEW SIGNING

Sat Aug 21, 2010 1:15 pm

bluebirdbrana wrote:i thought you couldnt have more than 4 players on season long loans? so is loovens on loan for 3 months so basically they will keep renewing the loan when it runs out?


4 Over 23's, 4 Under 23's. Drinkwater is an Under 23, so I guess thats how we're getting around it.

Re: NEW SIGNING

Sat Aug 21, 2010 1:17 pm

oo yea its the rule now you cant play more than 4 in a match init?

Re: NEW SIGNING

Sat Aug 21, 2010 1:18 pm

No I think its 5 in the match team at one time (Including the bench), but not certain on this rule.

Re: NEW SIGNING

Sat Aug 21, 2010 1:22 pm

they are changing them all the time lol im just a bit worried because leeds included 5 loanee's last season and got de-ducted points and fined are thats all we need! lol :ayatollah:

Re: NEW SIGNING

Sat Aug 21, 2010 4:38 pm

carlccfc wrote:The player we have agreed terms for on a season long loan is Glenn Loovens.

Gerrard is lined up to go to Sheff Weds.

Great news , now go and get a back up for Jay :ayatollah:


great news, very much looking foward to the season ahead :ayatollah:

Re: NEW SIGNING

Sat Aug 21, 2010 5:01 pm

manage to find this out. Looks like its ok for us. loking forward to this one.


47.3 There shall be two categories of temporary loan transfers allowed: Standard Loans and Emergency Loans. The following restrictions shall apply to both types of loan:
47.3.1 A maximum of 5 loan Players (either Standard or Emergency) can be named in the sixteen Players listed on a team sheet for any individual match. This figure shall include any additional loan of a goalkeeper approved by the Executive under the provisions of Regulation 49.
47.3.2 No more than 4 loan Players (either Standard or Emergency) may join one Club from another Club in any Season.
47.4 Clubs shall be permitted to charge or pay fees in respect of any temporary loan transfer (hereafter a 'Loan Fee'). The provisions of Regulation 44 shall apply in respect of the method of payment (and all associated matters relating thereto) of any Loan Fee save as follows:-
47.4.1 Regulation 44.2.2 shall not apply;
47.4.2 any such Loan Fee shall be payable on or before the date agreed between the parties, the latest of which must be 30th June immediately following the conclusion of the Season in which the temporary loan transfer commenced; and
47.4.3 payment of any levy in accordance with the provisions of with Regulations 44.2.8,
44.2.9 and/or 44.2.11 shall only become payable where a temporary loan transfer is subsequently made permanent. In such circumstances the appropriate levy payable shall be 5% of the aggregate amount of any Loan Fee and/or subsequent transfer/compensation fee payable in respect of the same Player.

48 Standard and Emergency Loans
48.1 Standard Loans. Subject to the provisions of Regulation 47.3, Standard Loan transfers shall only be approved in accordance with following provisions:-
48.1.1 Subject to the proviso that the duration of a Standard Loan must be the time between two Registration Periods, Standard Loans can be for half a Season or a full Season.
Any recall clause requiring the early termination of a Standard Loan can only be included in a full Season Standard Loan and this can only be activated during the second (January) Registration Period .
48.1.2 Notwithstanding the provisions of Regulation 48.1.1, a Standard Loan of a goalkeeper (but not otherwise) may be subject to a recall clause exercisable at any time. Any recall may only be implemented in extenuating circumstances and with the consent of the Executive, such extenuating circumstances to be determined in the Executive's absolute discretion. A goalkeeper shall not be permitted to resume any Standard Loan following the exercise of a recall.
48.1.3 A Club can have a maximum of 4 Players under 23 and a further 4 Players over 23 on a Standard Loan during any Season. The deadline for determining a Player's age in this respect shall be 30 June prior to the Season in which the Standard Loan is intended to take place.48.1.4 No more than 2 Players who are over 23 may join one Club from another Club on a Standard Loan in any Season.
48.1.5 Standard Loans which subsequently become permanent transfers shall not count against a Club's quota of such Standard Loans for that Season.

48.2 Emergency Loans. Subject to the provisions of Regulation 47.3, Emergency Loan transfers shall only be approved in accordance with the following provisions:-
48.2.1 Emergency Loans are permitted both during the Registration Periods and, subject to the provisions of Regulation 48.2.2, also during a Closed Period.
48.2.2 Notwithstanding the provisions of Regulation 48.2.1, a Player cannot be registered on an Emergency Loan:-
a) during the period of seven days after the end of a Registration Period;
b) in the first hall of the Season, after 5pm on the fourth Thursday in November; and
c) in the second half of the Season, after 5pm on the fourth Thursday in March unless in accordance with the provisions of Regulation 49.
48.2.3 Except for the specific circumstances provided for in Regulations 48.2.4, 48.2.5 and
49, the minimum duration of any Emergency Loan shall be 28 days and the maximum duration 93 days. The loan period is inclusive of the starting date and the finishing date. Emergency Loans may contain a break clause but only where that break clause is exercisable after the expiry of the initial 28 day period of the Emergency Loan.
48.2.4 Emergency Loans involving goalkeepers (but not otherwise) may be subject to a recall clause within the first 28 days. Any recall may only be implemented in extenuating circumstances and with the consent of the Executive, such extenuating circumstances to be determined in the Executive's absolute discretion.
48.2.5 The Executive shall have discretion to extend the maximum duration of 93 days in extenuating circumstances, such circumstances to be determined in the Executive's absolute discretion.
48.2.6 Subject to Regulation 48.2.7, where the Emergency Loan of a Player expires (and is not renewed simultaneously) any subsequent Emergency Loan of that Player to the same Club will be subject to a minimum duration of 28 days as set out in Regulation 48.2.3.
48.2.7 The cumulative total number of days of all Emergency Loans of one Player to the same Club may not exceed 93 days (unless extended by the Executive in accordance with the provisions of Regulation 48.2.5).
49 Emergency Loan of Goalkeepers. If all the professional goalkeepers at a Club are either certified by an Independent medical practitioner as being unfit to play or are suspended, a Club may register (either before or after the deadlines laid down in Regulation 48.2.2), a further goalkeeper on a short term Emergency Loan in accordance with the following provisions>
49.1 The Executive shall allow a Club to sign such a goalkeeper for a period of 7 days (notwithstanding the provisions of Regulation 48.2.3), inclusive of the starting date and finishing date.
49.2 Any such short term Emergency Loan shall be subject to The League, in appropriate circumstances, having received (Including by facsimile) the appropriate medical certificate(s)
and the Executive having confirmed that the circumstances conform to the provisions of this Regulation.
The period of any short term Emergency Loan of a goalkeeper may be renewed for 7 days at a time but further medical certification must be provided on each occasion.

49.4 Any short term Emergency Loan in respect of the same goalkeeper may not exceed 93 days during any Season.
49.5 The provisions of Regulation 47.3.2 shall not apply to the Emergency Loan of a goalkeeper
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Re: NEW SIGNING

Sat Aug 21, 2010 5:22 pm

Thought Gerrard did alright today,

Re: NEW SIGNING

Sat Aug 21, 2010 5:33 pm

:shock: He didnt play :lol:

Re: NEW SIGNING

Sat Aug 21, 2010 5:34 pm

bwoodblue wrote:Thought Gerrard did alright today,


Err.....he wasn't playing mate.

Re: NEW SIGNING

Sat Aug 21, 2010 5:36 pm

Yea he was amazing on the bench :)

Re: NEW SIGNING

Sat Aug 21, 2010 5:43 pm

Loovens is from a foreign club. He would not count as a loanee so to speak

Re: NEW SIGNING

Sat Aug 21, 2010 5:44 pm

bwoodblue wrote:Thought Gerrard did alright today,

Quality :lol:

Re: NEW SIGNING

Sat Aug 21, 2010 5:46 pm

Id much rather keep gerrard and send hudson out. loovens can play central with darcy, kevin and lee naylor. iExcitEd

Re: NEW SIGNING

Sat Aug 21, 2010 5:47 pm

This is perfect.

Re: NEW SIGNING

Sat Aug 21, 2010 5:57 pm

petesmeat wrote:Loovens is from a foreign club. He would not count as a loanee so to speak


Yes he will. He will count as a loan player over the age of 23.

Re: NEW SIGNING

Sat Aug 21, 2010 6:04 pm

Lou Vogel wrote:manage to find this out. Looks like its ok for us. loking forward to this one.


47.3 There shall be two categories of temporary loan transfers allowed: Standard Loans and Emergency Loans. The following restrictions shall apply to both types of loan:
47.3.1 A maximum of 5 loan Players (either Standard or Emergency) can be named in the sixteen Players listed on a team sheet for any individual match. This figure shall include any additional loan of a goalkeeper approved by the Executive under the provisions of Regulation 49.
47.3.2 No more than 4 loan Players (either Standard or Emergency) may join one Club from another Club in any Season.
47.4 Clubs shall be permitted to charge or pay fees in respect of any temporary loan transfer (hereafter a 'Loan Fee'). The provisions of Regulation 44 shall apply in respect of the method of payment (and all associated matters relating thereto) of any Loan Fee save as follows:-
47.4.1 Regulation 44.2.2 shall not apply;
47.4.2 any such Loan Fee shall be payable on or before the date agreed between the parties, the latest of which must be 30th June immediately following the conclusion of the Season in which the temporary loan transfer commenced; and
47.4.3 payment of any levy in accordance with the provisions of with Regulations 44.2.8,
44.2.9 and/or 44.2.11 shall only become payable where a temporary loan transfer is subsequently made permanent. In such circumstances the appropriate levy payable shall be 5% of the aggregate amount of any Loan Fee and/or subsequent transfer/compensation fee payable in respect of the same Player.

48 Standard and Emergency Loans
48.1 Standard Loans. Subject to the provisions of Regulation 47.3, Standard Loan transfers shall only be approved in accordance with following provisions:-
48.1.1 Subject to the proviso that the duration of a Standard Loan must be the time between two Registration Periods, Standard Loans can be for half a Season or a full Season.
Any recall clause requiring the early termination of a Standard Loan can only be included in a full Season Standard Loan and this can only be activated during the second (January) Registration Period .
48.1.2 Notwithstanding the provisions of Regulation 48.1.1, a Standard Loan of a goalkeeper (but not otherwise) may be subject to a recall clause exercisable at any time. Any recall may only be implemented in extenuating circumstances and with the consent of the Executive, such extenuating circumstances to be determined in the Executive's absolute discretion. A goalkeeper shall not be permitted to resume any Standard Loan following the exercise of a recall.
48.1.3 A Club can have a maximum of 4 Players under 23 and a further 4 Players over 23 on a Standard Loan during any Season. The deadline for determining a Player's age in this respect shall be 30 June prior to the Season in which the Standard Loan is intended to take place.48.1.4 No more than 2 Players who are over 23 may join one Club from another Club on a Standard Loan in any Season.
48.1.5 Standard Loans which subsequently become permanent transfers shall not count against a Club's quota of such Standard Loans for that Season.

48.2 Emergency Loans. Subject to the provisions of Regulation 47.3, Emergency Loan transfers shall only be approved in accordance with the following provisions:-
48.2.1 Emergency Loans are permitted both during the Registration Periods and, subject to the provisions of Regulation 48.2.2, also during a Closed Period.
48.2.2 Notwithstanding the provisions of Regulation 48.2.1, a Player cannot be registered on an Emergency Loan:-
a) during the period of seven days after the end of a Registration Period;
b) in the first hall of the Season, after 5pm on the fourth Thursday in November; and
c) in the second half of the Season, after 5pm on the fourth Thursday in March unless in accordance with the provisions of Regulation 49.
48.2.3 Except for the specific circumstances provided for in Regulations 48.2.4, 48.2.5 and
49, the minimum duration of any Emergency Loan shall be 28 days and the maximum duration 93 days. The loan period is inclusive of the starting date and the finishing date. Emergency Loans may contain a break clause but only where that break clause is exercisable after the expiry of the initial 28 day period of the Emergency Loan.
48.2.4 Emergency Loans involving goalkeepers (but not otherwise) may be subject to a recall clause within the first 28 days. Any recall may only be implemented in extenuating circumstances and with the consent of the Executive, such extenuating circumstances to be determined in the Executive's absolute discretion.
48.2.5 The Executive shall have discretion to extend the maximum duration of 93 days in extenuating circumstances, such circumstances to be determined in the Executive's absolute discretion.
48.2.6 Subject to Regulation 48.2.7, where the Emergency Loan of a Player expires (and is not renewed simultaneously) any subsequent Emergency Loan of that Player to the same Club will be subject to a minimum duration of 28 days as set out in Regulation 48.2.3.
48.2.7 The cumulative total number of days of all Emergency Loans of one Player to the same Club may not exceed 93 days (unless extended by the Executive in accordance with the provisions of Regulation 48.2.5).
49 Emergency Loan of Goalkeepers. If all the professional goalkeepers at a Club are either certified by an Independent medical practitioner as being unfit to play or are suspended, a Club may register (either before or after the deadlines laid down in Regulation 48.2.2), a further goalkeeper on a short term Emergency Loan in accordance with the following provisions>
49.1 The Executive shall allow a Club to sign such a goalkeeper for a period of 7 days (notwithstanding the provisions of Regulation 48.2.3), inclusive of the starting date and finishing date.
49.2 Any such short term Emergency Loan shall be subject to The League, in appropriate circumstances, having received (Including by facsimile) the appropriate medical certificate(s)
and the Executive having confirmed that the circumstances conform to the provisions of this Regulation.
The period of any short term Emergency Loan of a goalkeeper may be renewed for 7 days at a time but further medical certification must be provided on each occasion.

49.4 Any short term Emergency Loan in respect of the same goalkeeper may not exceed 93 days during any Season.
49.5 The provisions of Regulation 47.3.2 shall not apply to the Emergency Loan of a goalkeeper
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Why doesn't 47.3.2 count?

Re: NEW SIGNING

Sat Aug 21, 2010 6:11 pm

read 48.1.3

Re: NEW SIGNING

Sat Aug 21, 2010 6:36 pm

NIBluebird wrote:Yea he was amazing on the bench :)

He didn;t put a foot wrong :lol:

Re: NEW SIGNING

Sat Aug 21, 2010 6:39 pm

Great for us and Glenn to come back! I would rather put Hudson out on loan and leave Gerrard prove his fitness and fight for his place. :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: NEW SIGNING

Sat Aug 21, 2010 7:12 pm

There are those, of course, that would say Gerrard didn't put a foot wrong....him being on the bench and all. lol

Does anyone know 'why' Gerrard is out of favour? Seems to me he must have p****d Dave off big-time for him to be outed like this? I thought he was better than at least one of the guys that played today....

Loovens back would be another top result.

Not sure about the 'loan number' situation but I am sure the club know what they are doing. Also, isn't there a rule about 'if you subsequently sign the loan player' the loan arangement becomes null and void, meaning the usable 'quota' is raised by one again?

Re: NEW SIGNING

Sat Aug 21, 2010 7:14 pm

NN2Blue2 wrote:
Lou Vogel wrote:manage to find this out. Looks like its ok for us. loking forward to this one.


47.3 There shall be two categories of temporary loan transfers allowed: Standard Loans and Emergency Loans. The following restrictions shall apply to both types of loan:
47.3.1 A maximum of 5 loan Players (either Standard or Emergency) can be named in the sixteen Players listed on a team sheet for any individual match. This figure shall include any additional loan of a goalkeeper approved by the Executive under the provisions of Regulation 49.
47.3.2 No more than 4 loan Players (either Standard or Emergency) may join one Club from another Club in any Season.
47.4 Clubs shall be permitted to charge or pay fees in respect of any temporary loan transfer (hereafter a 'Loan Fee'). The provisions of Regulation 44 shall apply in respect of the method of payment (and all associated matters relating thereto) of any Loan Fee save as follows:-
47.4.1 Regulation 44.2.2 shall not apply;
47.4.2 any such Loan Fee shall be payable on or before the date agreed between the parties, the latest of which must be 30th June immediately following the conclusion of the Season in which the temporary loan transfer commenced; and
47.4.3 payment of any levy in accordance with the provisions of with Regulations 44.2.8,
44.2.9 and/or 44.2.11 shall only become payable where a temporary loan transfer is subsequently made permanent. In such circumstances the appropriate levy payable shall be 5% of the aggregate amount of any Loan Fee and/or subsequent transfer/compensation fee payable in respect of the same Player.

48 Standard and Emergency Loans
48.1 Standard Loans. Subject to the provisions of Regulation 47.3, Standard Loan transfers shall only be approved in accordance with following provisions:-
48.1.1 Subject to the proviso that the duration of a Standard Loan must be the time between two Registration Periods, Standard Loans can be for half a Season or a full Season.
Any recall clause requiring the early termination of a Standard Loan can only be included in a full Season Standard Loan and this can only be activated during the second (January) Registration Period .
48.1.2 Notwithstanding the provisions of Regulation 48.1.1, a Standard Loan of a goalkeeper (but not otherwise) may be subject to a recall clause exercisable at any time. Any recall may only be implemented in extenuating circumstances and with the consent of the Executive, such extenuating circumstances to be determined in the Executive's absolute discretion. A goalkeeper shall not be permitted to resume any Standard Loan following the exercise of a recall.
48.1.3 A Club can have a maximum of 4 Players under 23 and a further 4 Players over 23 on a Standard Loan during any Season. The deadline for determining a Player's age in this respect shall be 30 June prior to the Season in which the Standard Loan is intended to take place.48.1.4 No more than 2 Players who are over 23 may join one Club from another Club on a Standard Loan in any Season.
48.1.5 Standard Loans which subsequently become permanent transfers shall not count against a Club's quota of such Standard Loans for that Season.

48.2 Emergency Loans. Subject to the provisions of Regulation 47.3, Emergency Loan transfers shall only be approved in accordance with the following provisions:-
48.2.1 Emergency Loans are permitted both during the Registration Periods and, subject to the provisions of Regulation 48.2.2, also during a Closed Period.
48.2.2 Notwithstanding the provisions of Regulation 48.2.1, a Player cannot be registered on an Emergency Loan:-
a) during the period of seven days after the end of a Registration Period;
b) in the first hall of the Season, after 5pm on the fourth Thursday in November; and
c) in the second half of the Season, after 5pm on the fourth Thursday in March unless in accordance with the provisions of Regulation 49.
48.2.3 Except for the specific circumstances provided for in Regulations 48.2.4, 48.2.5 and
49, the minimum duration of any Emergency Loan shall be 28 days and the maximum duration 93 days. The loan period is inclusive of the starting date and the finishing date. Emergency Loans may contain a break clause but only where that break clause is exercisable after the expiry of the initial 28 day period of the Emergency Loan.
48.2.4 Emergency Loans involving goalkeepers (but not otherwise) may be subject to a recall clause within the first 28 days. Any recall may only be implemented in extenuating circumstances and with the consent of the Executive, such extenuating circumstances to be determined in the Executive's absolute discretion.
48.2.5 The Executive shall have discretion to extend the maximum duration of 93 days in extenuating circumstances, such circumstances to be determined in the Executive's absolute discretion.
48.2.6 Subject to Regulation 48.2.7, where the Emergency Loan of a Player expires (and is not renewed simultaneously) any subsequent Emergency Loan of that Player to the same Club will be subject to a minimum duration of 28 days as set out in Regulation 48.2.3.
48.2.7 The cumulative total number of days of all Emergency Loans of one Player to the same Club may not exceed 93 days (unless extended by the Executive in accordance with the provisions of Regulation 48.2.5).
49 Emergency Loan of Goalkeepers. If all the professional goalkeepers at a Club are either certified by an Independent medical practitioner as being unfit to play or are suspended, a Club may register (either before or after the deadlines laid down in Regulation 48.2.2), a further goalkeeper on a short term Emergency Loan in accordance with the following provisions>
49.1 The Executive shall allow a Club to sign such a goalkeeper for a period of 7 days (notwithstanding the provisions of Regulation 48.2.3), inclusive of the starting date and finishing date.
49.2 Any such short term Emergency Loan shall be subject to The League, in appropriate circumstances, having received (Including by facsimile) the appropriate medical certificate(s)
and the Executive having confirmed that the circumstances conform to the provisions of this Regulation.
The period of any short term Emergency Loan of a goalkeeper may be renewed for 7 days at a time but further medical certification must be provided on each occasion.

49.4 Any short term Emergency Loan in respect of the same goalkeeper may not exceed 93 days during any Season.
49.5 The provisions of Regulation 47.3.2 shall not apply to the Emergency Loan of a goalkeeper
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Why doesn't 47.3.2 count?


Because we won't be loaning 4 players from the same club e.g. Loovens will be only 1 Celtic Player

Re: NEW SIGNING

Sat Aug 21, 2010 7:25 pm

Sven Ghali wrote:There are those, of course, that would say Gerrard didn't put a foot wrong....him being on the bench and all. lol

Does anyone know 'why' Gerrard is out of favour? Seems to me he must have p****d Dave off big-time for him to be outed like this? I thought he was better than at least one of the guys that played today....

Loovens back would be another top result.

Not sure about the 'loan number' situation but I am sure the club know what they are doing. Also, isn't there a rule about 'if you subsequently sign the loan player' the loan arangement becomes null and void, meaning the usable 'quota' is raised by one again?



Almost caused a fight with the keeper at the end of the season......

Outspoken when not picked last few games and final......

Looks like he's put on too much weight over the summer.....

Not really that good anyway............