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Telling Vincent Tan & Sam Hammam What the BLUE really meant

PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:22 pm
by Forever Blue
Telling Vincent Tan & Sam Hammam What the BLUE really meant to the hardcore of Cardiff City Fans, Thank you to photographer Bartosz Nowicki :bluescarf: :bluebird: 3 hours of chatting, but it still took 4 years, Thankfully now a United fan base & Club :bluescarf: :bluebird: My Daughters in Blue :bluescarf:

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:23 pm
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Re: Telling Vincent Tan & Sam Hammam What the BLUE really me

PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:25 pm
by Sven
Wow! Some water under the proverbial bridge since then! :o

How things have moved on...! :clap: :ayatollah: :bluescarf:

Re: Telling Vincent Tan & Sam Hammam What the BLUE really me

PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:33 pm
by 2blue2handle
I always think people make mistakes but it's how you react to them that's shows what kind of person they are. I think that's where Sam let himself down and Tan showed his worth.

Although both have been huge for the club, Sam started it all and Tan had the money to continue it.

Re: Telling Vincent Tan & Sam Hammam What the BLUE really me

PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:02 pm
by LiamD1991
Brilliant photos - shows how far we have come!

Re: Telling Vincent Tan & Sam Hammam What the BLUE really me

PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:22 pm
by thomasblue
2blue2handle wrote:I always think people make mistakes but it's how you react to them that's shows what kind of person they are. I think that's where Sam let himself down and Tan showed his worth.

Although both have been huge for the club, Sam started it all and Tan had the money to continue it.


Sam started it and tried to finish it for good!
He should get no recognition for his contribution, Vincent Tan is the Person along with his team who have made Cardiff what they are today not Sam Hamman.
If Sam had succeeded this club would be gone now

Re: Telling Vincent Tan & Sam Hammam What the BLUE really me

PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:51 pm
by Sven
thomasblue wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:I always think people make mistakes but it's how you react to them that's shows what kind of person they are. I think that's where Sam let himself down and Tan showed his worth.

Although both have been huge for the club, Sam started it all and Tan had the money to continue it.


Sam started it and tried to finish it for good!
He should get no recognition for his contribution, Vincent Tan is the Person along with his team who have made Cardiff what they are today not Sam Hamman.
If Sam had succeeded this club would be gone now

Sam certainly started it but I'm not sure Sam tried to finish it as well! :roll:

What he did do was rejuvenate a club and its fanbase that was slowly ebbing away. He united the club, the team, the supporters, large parts of the wider community and also many in the political arena

As a long-standing supporter, I can tell you Sam provided some of the best supporter memories at the club (Leeds Utd in the FA Cup amongst them) and he had a charisma that carried him along for some time

That he fell short in the end was not all his doing (there are those who know the real story) but his fall was certainly without grace

Overall, I view Sam's time here with mixed emotions; one one side he was the charismatic and able owner we had yearned for so many years, whilst on the other he didn't know when his time was up (something of a trait of many of his ilk)

One thing is for certain; I honestly believe this club would not be where it is today had he not arrived back in the day and for that reason alone I will view Sam with more fondness than sadness :thumbright:

Re: Telling Vincent Tan & Sam Hammam What the BLUE really me

PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:08 pm
by Forever Blue
Sven wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:I always think people make mistakes but it's how you react to them that's shows what kind of person they are. I think that's where Sam let himself down and Tan showed his worth.

Although both have been huge for the club, Sam started it all and Tan had the money to continue it.


Sam started it and tried to finish it for good!
He should get no recognition for his contribution, Vincent Tan is the Person along with his team who have made Cardiff what they are today not Sam Hamman.
If Sam had succeeded this club would be gone now

Sam certainly started it but I'm not sure Sam tried to finish it as well! :roll:

What he did do was rejuvenate a club and its fanbase that was slowly ebbing away. He united the club, the team, the supporters, large parts of the wider community and also many in the political arena

As a long-standing supporter, I can tell you Sam provided some of the best supporter memories at the club (Leeds Utd in the FA Cup amongst them) and he had a charisma that carried him along for some time

That he fell short in the end was not all his doing (there are those who know the real story) but his fall was certainly without grace

Overall, I view Sam's time here with mixed emotions; one one side he was the charismatic and able owner we had yearned for so many years, whilst on the other he didn't know when his time was up (something of a trait of many of his ilk)

One thing is for certain; I honestly believe this club would not be where it is today had he not arrived back in the day and for that reason alone I will view Sam with more fondness than sadness :thumbright:




Well said Chris :thumbright: :bluescarf:


I can say this I know both very well.

Sam 100% would not of put our club under.

Also Sam, took Cardiff City over when we were Div4, NO one else would touch us.
Our Support was 4,000 at home then and sometimes 50 away.
Many fans now who slate either were not there in them days, so NO I don’t respect their opinions as they really don’t know how bad the old days were and crowds were 1,400 at home and even as low as 11away.

No one wanted us in them days.


On the field from the day Sam took over, Fans have never had it so good, a Fact :thumbright: :bluebird:

SAM HAMMAM STARTED THE DREAM/ADVENTURE & EVEN THOUGH I CANT FORGIVE TAN FOR THE REBRAND/ I ACKNOWLEDGE TAN HAS NOW CONTINUED THE DREAM :thumbright: :bluebird:

Re: Telling Vincent Tan & Sam Hammam What the BLUE really me

PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:37 pm
by Chris Holmes
Great pictures and great posts...19 years on the rollercoaster with those two owners, mostly fun and mostly success.
Made up for Dungeon Days. Gone, but never forgotten.

Re: Telling Vincent Tan & Sam Hammam What the BLUE really me

PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:47 pm
by bluebird04
Sven wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:I always think people make mistakes but it's how you react to them that's shows what kind of person they are. I think that's where Sam let himself down and Tan showed his worth.

Although both have been huge for the club, Sam started it all and Tan had the money to continue it.


Sam started it and tried to finish it for good!
He should get no recognition for his contribution, Vincent Tan is the Person along with his team who have made Cardiff what they are today not Sam Hamman.
If Sam had succeeded this club would be gone now

Sam certainly started it but I'm not sure Sam tried to finish it as well! :roll:

What he did do was rejuvenate a club and its fanbase that was slowly ebbing away. He united the club, the team, the supporters, large parts of the wider community and also many in the political arena

As a long-standing supporter, I can tell you Sam provided some of the best supporter memories at the club (Leeds Utd in the FA Cup amongst them) and he had a charisma that carried him along for some time

That he fell short in the end was not all his doing (there are those who know the real story) but his fall was certainly without grace

Overall, I view Sam's time here with mixed emotions; one one side he was the charismatic and able owner we had yearned for so many years, whilst on the other he didn't know when his time was up (something of a trait of many of his ilk)

One thing is for certain; I honestly believe this club would not be where it is today had he not arrived back in the day and for that reason alone I will view Sam with more fondness than sadness :thumbright:


Honest question, you say it wasn't all his fault, but some know the real story, care to share?.

Re: Telling Vincent Tan & Sam Hammam What the BLUE really me

PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:49 pm
by Forever Blue
Chris Holmes wrote:Great pictures and great posts...19 years on the rollercoaster with those two owners, mostly fun and mostly success.
Made up for Dungeon Days. Gone, but never forgotten.




:thumbright: :bluebird: :bluescarf:

Re: Telling Vincent Tan & Sam Hammam What the BLUE really me

PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:34 pm
by valleyrambill
I don't know what happened but I felt Sam was angry not at the club but the crook Ridsdale who Sam brought in to help him then stabbed Sam in the back.

Lets not forget Ridsdale stabbed every supporter who bought a season ticket early so City could buy players this didn't happen actually bills was not even paid and we nearly went out of business because of a tax bill was not paid.

Strange Ridsdale got a new Audi that was the only thing I seen bought at the time

I remember the bad times and when Sam took us over we started buying players and going places my son who was 7 started coming to the games and Sam was always great with the youngsters and I remember the excitement of Kav and Thorne being bought and the play off final against QPR feeling emotional as I never thought I would see so many people supporting Cardiff City.

So I have fond memories of Sam and so does my son who is 24 and still has a hand written letter from Sam it was sad how it all ended for him and I think he was heart broken too unlike Ridadale who just caused chaos at every club he been too and made lots of money so I believe there is a lot more that happened we don't know about

Re: Telling Vincent Tan & Sam Hammam What the BLUE really me

PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:34 pm
by thomasblue
Everything this club is today and over the past 10 years is solely down to Vincent Tan. Nobody else especially Sam Hamman.

Vincent Tan and his team deserve all the credit even after the rebrand. If it was not for Sam and his "Langstone loan notes" the club would be even better off now and probably debt free already.

Re: Telling Vincent Tan & Sam Hammam What the BLUE really me

PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:43 pm
by goats
valleyrambill wrote:I don't know what happened but I felt Sam was angry not at the club but the crook Ridsdale who Sam brought in to help him then stabbed Sam in the back.

Lets not forget Ridsdale stabbed every supporter who bought a season ticket early so City could buy players this didn't happen actually bills was not even paid and we nearly went out of business because of a tax bill was not paid.

Strange Ridsdale got a new Audi that was the only thing I seen bought at the time

I remember the bad times and when Sam took us over we started buying players and going places my son who was 7 started coming to the games and Sam was always great with the youngsters and I remember the excitement of Kav and Thorne being bought and the play off final against QPR feeling emotional as I never thought I would see so many people supporting Cardiff City.

So I have fond memories of Sam and so does my son who is 24 and still has a hand written letter from Sam it was sad how it all ended for him and I think he was heart broken too unlike Ridadale who just caused chaos at every club he been too and made lots of money so I believe there is a lot more that happened we don't know about


I can’t recall the exact murky details but Sam did have grand plans that a certain leader of Cardiff council was backing, then he lost his seat and it all caved in a bit on Sam and the new council he had to deal with. Some strange dealings, which resulted in him losing control, not just of all the retail around the stadium which was pivotal but the club itself. Who made all the money from the retail deals? Hhhmmmm mm :roll: