Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:33 pm
Wed Aug 14, 2019 1:36 pm
Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:02 pm
Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:53 pm
ReesWestonSuperMare wrote:If that was the initial cause of death , then they need to get the plane out of the water and try and establish why that happened. Dont you get carbon monoxide from an engines exhaust ?
Eitherway - there was something wrong with the plane, which means someone hadnt checked something, or it could have been a fault that happened mid flight , which could not have been prevented, that plane needs to come up or this will never be settled.
Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:53 pm
Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:59 pm
pembroke allan wrote:This will exonerate the pilot from it being his fault? But doesnt get away from fact ge should not have been flying the plane at night! Its also thrown up even more questions that need answers and only way now is for plane to be raised which aaib cannot refuse now regardless of cost as there was obviously a fault somewhere within plane.
Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:11 pm
bluesince62 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:This will exonerate the pilot from it being his fault? But doesnt get away from fact ge should not have been flying the plane at night! Its also thrown up even more questions that need answers and only way now is for plane to be raised which aaib cannot refuse now regardless of cost as there was obviously a fault somewhere within plane.
In the interim report,it stated emiliano had levels as high as 48% in his blood I suppose it could well mean he was unconscious at the time of impact,so hopefully knew very little about the actual crash but it does raise serious doubt about the air worthiness of that plane small comfort to either family I know,but it may help them with their grief,knowing they probably were unconscious on impact with the sea that plane should be recovered now for sure,I'm not to sure if they will find out exactly why there were fumes in the plane,what with the damage and all hope they find the answers for the families of both.
Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:13 pm
pembroke allan wrote:This will exonerate the pilot from it being his fault? But doesnt get away from fact ge should not have been flying the plane at night! Its also thrown up even more questions that need answers and only way now is for plane to be raised which aaib cannot refuse now regardless of cost as there was obviously a fault somewhere within plane.
Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:48 pm
pembroke allan wrote:This will exonerate the pilot from it being his fault? But doesnt get away from fact ge should not have been flying the plane at night! Its also thrown up even more questions that need answers and only way now is for plane to be raised which aaib cannot refuse now regardless of cost as there was obviously a fault somewhere within plane.
Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:52 pm
Sven wrote:pembroke allan wrote:This will exonerate the pilot from it being his fault? But doesnt get away from fact ge should not have been flying the plane at night! Its also thrown up even more questions that need answers and only way now is for plane to be raised which aaib cannot refuse now regardless of cost as there was obviously a fault somewhere within plane.
I doubt it, as the pilot reportedly made several attempts to take-off and Sala himself made comment on the airworthiness of the plane
The confirmation of carbon monoxide in Sala's body means it is 'likely' that Ibbotson was experiencing similar and would 'likely' have contributed to reports of confusion and erratic flight patterns in the moments before the loss of contact
Either way, still a massively sad event but still a way to go before the truth fully outs and I certainly wouldn't want to be in Henderson or the plane owners shoes
Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:07 pm
Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:17 pm
RageJon wrote:A disastrous plane with known problems being flown by a pilot not qualified at night organised by a complete tw*t of an agent that we used to get a deal.
A talentented young footballer and a naive pilot desperate for money loses there life over greed and complete lack of passion and morals !!
Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:57 pm
Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:06 am
pembroke allan wrote:Sven wrote:pembroke allan wrote:This will exonerate the pilot from it being his fault? But doesnt get away from fact ge should not have been flying the plane at night! Its also thrown up even more questions that need answers and only way now is for plane to be raised which aaib cannot refuse now regardless of cost as there was obviously a fault somewhere within plane.
I doubt it, as the pilot reportedly made several attempts to take-off and Sala himself made comment on the airworthiness of the plane
The confirmation of carbon monoxide in Sala's body means it is 'likely' that Ibbotson was experiencing similar and would 'likely' have contributed to reports of confusion and erratic flight patterns in the moments before the loss of contact
Either way, still a massively sad event but still a way to go before the truth fully outs and I certainly wouldn't want to be in Henderson or the plane owners shoes
By exonerate I mean fact he wasn't supposed to be flying plane they cannot say he was the cause of crash? Given what AAIB have said there is no doubt carbon monoxide poisoning was cause of crash.... so like said lot more questions to be answered! And yes people have still a lot to answer for.
Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:32 am
Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:49 am
JulesK wrote:Hopefully both unconscious/dead before descent RIP.
AAIB says no to salvage of wreck due to length of time in sea !!! Which begs the question of why not salvage it at time of location? They had plant there, they had divers there, HATE it when some stuffed shirt comes out with the " we must think about tax payers money before these operations " FFS 2 men are dead!!!!!
Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:29 am
Thu Aug 15, 2019 5:51 pm
JulesK wrote:Hopefully both unconscious/dead before descent RIP.
AAIB says no to salvage of wreck due to length of time in sea !!! Which begs the question of why not salvage it at time of location? They had plant there, they had divers there, HATE it when some stuffed shirt comes out with the " we must think about tax payers money before these operations " FFS 2 men are dead!!!!!
Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:38 pm
glas wrote:If the pilot was suffering from CO poisoning, where is he?
Was the front of the plane smashed apart so he could have been thrown out?
If he had a seat belt on then surely he would still be attached to the seat/plane structure.
I find it strange that Sala was still there but not the pilot.
I have not seen pictures of the plane so I do not know what state it was in, but did read that most of the plane is still in one piece, held together by wires.
I agree that the plane should now be lifted from the sea bed to fully study it.