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Plaid Cymru voters beware

Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:54 am

For all those thinking bout voting Plaid....they have confirmed they will vote to get feckwit Corbyn to be PM by bringing down the current Government.
Would the last person leaving Wales please turn the lights out!!!!

Re: Plaid Cymru voters beware

Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:50 am

Shown their true colours, Plaid are not acting in Wales best interests here.

A socialist government under Corbyn will take away power and jobs in wales and they've opted to back him.

Re: Plaid Cymru voters beware

Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:06 am

Didn't they say; only if Corbyn backs remain? Which he wont.

Re: Plaid Cymru voters beware

Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:22 am

PC claim to be the party of Wales, Wales voted to leave the E.U. why are they doing everything they can to prevent the wishes of the Welsh electorate being carried out.

Re: Plaid Cymru voters beware

Tue Aug 27, 2019 7:39 am

Jock wrote:PC claim to be the party of Wales, Wales voted to leave the E.U. why are they doing everything they can to prevent the wishes of the Welsh electorate being carried out.

Sadly, like their Scottish counterparts, they only accept even national referendum decisions that tie in with their own (often personal) agendas

We voted together; we accept the decision together! ;) :ayatollah:

Re: Plaid Cymru voters beware

Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:50 am

Wayne S wrote:Didn't they say; only if Corbyn backs remain? Which he wont.



Corbyn as a choice drop his idea of being temp PM or unequivocally back remain! or he's got no chance of blocking Brexit as not enough MPs will back no confidence vote
As for plaid what planet are they on to think Wales can be independent?

Re: Plaid Cymru voters beware

Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:26 am

pembroke allan wrote:
Wayne S wrote:Didn't they say; only if Corbyn backs remain? Which he wont.



Corbyn as a choice drop his idea of being temp PM or unequivocally back remain! or he's got no chance of blocking Brexit as not enough MPs will back no confidence vote
As for plaid what planet are they on to think Wales can be independent?

Strangely enough the vast majority of countries around the world are independent, no matter what size of population. It seems to be the natural thing to do!! But we like to be one of the odd ones out...so it seems.
It'll be interesting when UK crashes out of Europe to see what happens if the Scots leave and Ireland unites. We might have to pull our finger out and fend for ourselves. Food for thought.

Re: Plaid Cymru voters beware

Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:01 pm

moonboots wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Wayne S wrote:Didn't they say; only if Corbyn backs remain? Which he wont.



Corbyn as a choice drop his idea of being temp PM or unequivocally back remain! or he's got no chance of blocking Brexit as not enough MPs will back no confidence vote
As for plaid what planet are they on to think Wales can be independent?

Strangely enough the vast majority of countries around the world are independent, no matter what size of population. It seems to be the natural thing to do!! But we like to be one of the odd ones out...so it seems.
It'll be interesting when UK crashes out of Europe to see what happens if the Scots leave and Ireland unites. We might have to pull our finger out and fend for ourselves. Food for thought.


We won't be "crashing out" of the E.U. ...
I wish people would stop this linguistic brainwashing. The elites are laughing at how easily they can spread fear and panic using subconscious brain washing.

Re: Plaid Cymru voters beware

Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:00 pm

Aberbeeg Blues wrote:For all those thinking bout voting Plaid....they have confirmed they will vote to get feckwit Corbyn to be PM by bringing down the current Government.
Would the last person leaving Wales please turn the lights out!!!!


Just to update your post. MPs opposing a no deal Brexit in a meeting this morning confirmed Labour's original plan - to hold a no-confidence vote and install Corbyn as interim PM - has been put on the back burner.
They will put forward legislation in the Commons next week in a bid to avoid Britain crashing out of the EU.

It's called putting your country before your party. Before you start screaming Wales voted out, Wales did not vote for a no-deal Brexit. We were told that getting a deal would be the simplest thing ever. Even Brexiteers now agree that a no-deal Brexit would be catastrophic for Wales.

Re: Plaid Cymru voters beware

Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:13 pm

Which prominent brexiteer thinks no deal will be catastrophic
Wales? Sounds like more lies.

During the referendum all the prominent campaigners stated a no deal Brexit could happen. Wales still voted to leave.

Re: Plaid Cymru voters beware

Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:22 pm

BlueGog wrote:
Aberbeeg Blues wrote:For all those thinking bout voting Plaid....they have confirmed they will vote to get feckwit Corbyn to be PM by bringing down the current Government.
Would the last person leaving Wales please turn the lights out!!!!


Just to update your post. MPs opposing a no deal Brexit in a meeting this morning confirmed Labour's original plan - to hold a no-confidence vote and install Corbyn as interim PM - has been put on the back burner.
They will put forward legislation in the Commons next week in a bid to avoid Britain crashing out of the EU.

It's called putting your country before your party. Before you start screaming Wales voted out, Wales did not vote for a no-deal Brexit. We were told that getting a deal would be the simplest thing ever. Even Brexiteers now agree that a no-deal Brexit would be catastrophic for Wales.



the option was LEAVE THE EUROPEAN UNION.
there was no leave with a deal option or no remain but we will give tan the 39 billion a year to buy players option either.

Re: Plaid Cymru voters beware

Tue Aug 27, 2019 2:21 pm

BlueGog wrote:
Aberbeeg Blues wrote:For all those thinking bout voting Plaid....they have confirmed they will vote to get feckwit Corbyn to be PM by bringing down the current Government.
Would the last person leaving Wales please turn the lights out!!!!


Just to update your post. MPs opposing a no deal Brexit in a meeting this morning confirmed Labour's original plan - to hold a no-confidence vote and install Corbyn as interim PM - has been put on the back burner.
They will put forward legislation in the Commons next week in a bid to avoid Britain crashing out of the EU.

It's called putting your country before your party. Before you start screaming Wales voted out, Wales did not vote for a no-deal Brexit. We were told that getting a deal would be the simplest thing ever. Even Brexiteers now agree that a no-deal Brexit would be catastrophic for Wales.



Yes and they are bleating its un democratic to leave without a deal? Excuse me but the people voted leave! no deal or any other deal was not part of the equation ..... hypocrites the lot of them they are stopping the democratic vote of uk citizens for their own agenda plaid/Scots independence Corbyn PM? Why can't they be honest and say we MPs no whats best for the people so let us do what we want to do it's in our interests not yours? :mrgreen:

Re: Plaid Cymru voters beware

Tue Aug 27, 2019 2:40 pm

For those interested this is the 2 questions on ballot paper Where is deal or no deal in the question? :laughing6:

Remain a member of the European Union

Leave the European Union

Nothing more nothing less so those politicians bleating about people didn't vote for no deal well they couldn't do so because wasnt on ballot paper in 1st place nor was leave with a deal either :thumbup:
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Re: Plaid Cymru voters beware

Tue Aug 27, 2019 2:41 pm

BlueGog wrote:
Aberbeeg Blues wrote:For all those thinking bout voting Plaid....they have confirmed they will vote to get feckwit Corbyn to be PM by bringing down the current Government.
Would the last person leaving Wales please turn the lights out!!!!


Just to update your post. MPs opposing a no deal Brexit in a meeting this morning confirmed Labour's original plan - to hold a no-confidence vote and install Corbyn as interim PM - has been put on the back burner.
They will put forward legislation in the Commons next week in a bid to avoid Britain crashing out of the EU.

It's called putting your country before your party. Before you start screaming Wales voted out, Wales did not vote for a no-deal Brexit. We were told that getting a deal would be the simplest thing ever. Even Brexiteers now agree that a no-deal Brexit would be catastrophic for Wales.

Nah it said stay or leave mate.

EU sucks donkey dick so we all wanted to leave

Re: Plaid Cymru voters beware

Tue Aug 27, 2019 2:44 pm

Llan_Blue wrote:
BlueGog wrote:
Aberbeeg Blues wrote:For all those thinking bout voting Plaid....they have confirmed they will vote to get feckwit Corbyn to be PM by bringing down the current Government.
Would the last person leaving Wales please turn the lights out!!!!


Just to update your post. MPs opposing a no deal Brexit in a meeting this morning confirmed Labour's original plan - to hold a no-confidence vote and install Corbyn as interim PM - has been put on the back burner.
They will put forward legislation in the Commons next week in a bid to avoid Britain crashing out of the EU.

It's called putting your country before your party. Before you start screaming Wales voted out, Wales did not vote for a no-deal Brexit. We were told that getting a deal would be the simplest thing ever. Even Brexiteers now agree that a no-deal Brexit would be catastrophic for Wales.

Nah it said stay or leave mate.

EU sucks donkey dick so we all wanted to leave



Why do people insist on saying we didn't vote for leave with no deal when simple look at question gives you the answer? :thumbup:

Re: Plaid Cymru voters beware

Tue Aug 27, 2019 2:57 pm

The problem with the whole 'it didn't say how we should leave only whether we should stay or leave' argument is how far do you take it and what is 'acceptable'. There are many ways to leave which according to that argument you all accept and back:
Change our official name slightly so the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland isn't in the EU but whatever we are called will be
Nuke ourselves so that the UK doesn't exist anymore
Say we'll leave but will wait for the sun to explode in thousands of years time
Declare war on all the other members and then disband the EU.
Leave for 10 seconds and then immediately return.
All perfectly valid methods of leaving I assume?

Re: Plaid Cymru voters beware

Tue Aug 27, 2019 3:08 pm

That tw*t Cameron has such a lot to answer for - no wonder he is keeping such a low profile. Tried to heal a Tory rift and stop members moving to ukip - 3 yrs later the rift is still there, and parliament has been log jammed with Brexit ever since. Shambles!!

Re: Plaid Cymru voters beware

Tue Aug 27, 2019 3:35 pm

ElyBoy1984 wrote:
moonboots wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Wayne S wrote:Didn't they say; only if Corbyn backs remain? Which he wont.



Corbyn as a choice drop his idea of being temp PM or unequivocally back remain! or he's got no chance of blocking Brexit as not enough MPs will back no confidence vote
As for plaid what planet are they on to think Wales can be independent?

Strangely enough the vast majority of countries around the world are independent, no matter what size of population. It seems to be the natural thing to do!! But we like to be one of the odd ones out...so it seems.
It'll be interesting when UK crashes out of Europe to see what happens if the Scots leave and Ireland unites. We might have to pull our finger out and fend for ourselves. Food for thought.


We won't be "crashing out" of the E.U. ...
I wish people would stop this linguistic brainwashing. The elites are laughing at how easily they can spread fear and panic using subconscious brain washing.

George Orwell warned about the weponisation of language in the 1940s yet here we are still falling for it today.

Re: Plaid Cymru voters beware

Tue Aug 27, 2019 3:37 pm

BlueGog wrote:
Aberbeeg Blues wrote:For all those thinking bout voting Plaid....they have confirmed they will vote to get feckwit Corbyn to be PM by bringing down the current Government.
Would the last person leaving Wales please turn the lights out!!!!


Just to update your post. MPs opposing a no deal Brexit in a meeting this morning confirmed Labour's original plan - to hold a no-confidence vote and install Corbyn as interim PM - has been put on the back burner.
They will put forward legislation in the Commons next week in a bid to avoid Britain crashing out of the EU.

It's called putting your country before your party. Before you start screaming Wales voted out, Wales did not vote for a no-deal Brexit. We were told that getting a deal would be the simplest thing ever. Even Brexiteers now agree that a no-deal Brexit would be catastrophic for Wales.

Catastrophic Bwhahahahaha crashing out Bwhahahahaha even brexiteers agree ...no they don’t.

Re: Plaid Cymru voters beware

Tue Aug 27, 2019 3:44 pm

CCFCJosh75 wrote:The problem with the whole 'it didn't say how we should leave only whether we should stay or leave' argument is how far do you take it and what is 'acceptable'. There are many ways to leave which according to that argument you all accept and back:
Change our official name slightly so the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland isn't in the EU but whatever we are called will be
Nuke ourselves so that the UK doesn't exist anymore
Say we'll leave but will wait for the sun to explode in thousands of years time
Declare war on all the other members and then disband the EU.
Leave for 10 seconds and then immediately return.
All perfectly valid methods of leaving I assume?



equally there are ways of remaining but not under the terms that already existed that were not options.
the whole soft/hard Brexit and mention of deals only appeared after the vote and not from people who had aligned themselves with leave....its made up fairy tale stuff .the only debate is are the people believing the leavers did not really mean leave line and then repeating it really that gullible or do they think those that voted leave are gullible enough to believe the twaddle.
after all we were told enough how only stupid people voted leave.

Re: Plaid Cymru voters beware

Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:21 pm

pembroke allan wrote:For those interested this is the 2 questions on ballot paper Where is deal or no deal in the question? :laughing6:

Remain a member of the European Union

Leave the European Union

Nothing more nothing less so those politicians bleating about people didn't vote for no deal well they couldn't do so because wasnt on ballot paper in 1st place nor was leave with a deal either :thumbup:


Allan, we were told by the majority of MP's (the remainer scaremongerers) that if we left the EU we would be at the mercy of WTO rules etc etc. The UK were told these facts numerous times, and repeated during almost every debate held. Anyone can find them on the internet anytime they wish. All this crap about we did not know what we were voting for is an insult to the millions who voted to leave. The politicians who are currently pushing all the current doom and gloom stories did exactly the same in the run up to the referendum, and we still voted to leave. Those remainers who say we did not know what we voted for should have paid more attention, and possibly a bit more research.

Re: Plaid Cymru voters beware

Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:51 pm

CCFCJosh75 wrote:The problem with the whole 'it didn't say how we should leave only whether we should stay or leave' argument is how far do you take it and what is 'acceptable'. There are many ways to leave which according to that argument you all accept and back:
Change our official name slightly so the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland isn't in the EU but whatever we are called will be
Nuke ourselves so that the UK doesn't exist anymore
Say we'll leave but will wait for the sun to explode in thousands of years time
Declare war on all the other members and then disband the EU.
Leave for 10 seconds and then immediately return.
All perfectly valid methods of leaving I assume?



What tosh you talk ! The question was simple and answer was leave? Everything after that was for the MPs to carry out the democratic will of the majority that is what democracy is about isn't it?? If no deal or deal was in the question fine have a point but they wasn't so you cannot say people didn't know what they voted for when even you can see that there was 2 simple questions to be answered and they voted for LEAVE EU what is so difficult for you to understand ? :old:

Re: Plaid Cymru voters beware

Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:55 pm

Steve Zodiak wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:For those interested this is the 2 questions on ballot paper Where is deal or no deal in the question? :laughing6:

Remain a member of the European Union

Leave the European Union

Nothing more nothing less so those politicians bleating about people didn't vote for no deal well they couldn't do so because wasnt on ballot paper in 1st place nor was leave with a deal either :thumbup:


Allan, we were told by the majority of MP's (the remainer scaremongerers) that if we left the EU we would be at the mercy of WTO rules etc etc. The UK were told these facts numerous times, and repeated during almost every debate held. Anyone can find them on the internet anytime they wish. All this crap about we did not know what we were voting for is an insult to the millions who voted to leave. The politicians who are currently pushing all the current doom and gloom stories did exactly the same in the run up to the referendum, and we still voted to leave. Those remainers who say we did not know what we voted for should have paid more attention, and possibly a bit more research.



I know and the stupid thing is people are saying we didn't vote for no deal well what did we vote for? If have general election we put x on the person you vote for it's so simple a process cant believe remain people cannot understand what was on Brexit ballot paper! And they called Brexit voters stupid ect :old:

Re: Plaid Cymru voters beware

Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:08 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:For those interested this is the 2 questions on ballot paper Where is deal or no deal in the question? :laughing6:

Remain a member of the European Union

Leave the European Union

Nothing more nothing less so those politicians bleating about people didn't vote for no deal well they couldn't do so because wasnt on ballot paper in 1st place nor was leave with a deal either :thumbup:


Allan, we were told by the majority of MP's (the remainer scaremongerers) that if we left the EU we would be at the mercy of WTO rules etc etc. The UK were told these facts numerous times, and repeated during almost every debate held. Anyone can find them on the internet anytime they wish. All this crap about we did not know what we were voting for is an insult to the millions who voted to leave. The politicians who are currently pushing all the current doom and gloom stories did exactly the same in the run up to the referendum, and we still voted to leave. Those remainers who say we did not know what we voted for should have paid more attention, and possibly a bit more research.



I know and the stupid thing is people are saying we didn't vote for no deal well what did we vote for? If have general election we put x on the person you vote for it's so simple a process cant believe remain people cannot understand what was on Brexit ballot paper! And they called Brexit voters stupid ect :old:

Leave the E.U., that’s exactly what I and 17.4m others voted for. No hard soft or Norway plus. What we are living through is the subversion of British Democracy.

Re: Plaid Cymru voters beware

Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:28 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:The problem with the whole 'it didn't say how we should leave only whether we should stay or leave' argument is how far do you take it and what is 'acceptable'. There are many ways to leave which according to that argument you all accept and back:
Change our official name slightly so the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland isn't in the EU but whatever we are called will be
Nuke ourselves so that the UK doesn't exist anymore
Say we'll leave but will wait for the sun to explode in thousands of years time
Declare war on all the other members and then disband the EU.
Leave for 10 seconds and then immediately return.
All perfectly valid methods of leaving I assume?



What tosh you talk ! The question was simple and answer was leave? Everything after that was for the MPs to carry out the democratic will of the majority that is what democracy is about isn't it?? If no deal or deal was in the question fine have a point but they wasn't so you cannot say people didn't know what they voted for when even you can see that there was 2 simple questions to be answered and they voted for LEAVE EU what is so difficult for you to understand ? :old:

So how did you and everyone else (bearing in mind no one googled about no deal brexit until a year after the vote) specifically know you were voting for a no deal when even 'Mr Brexit' as trump said admitted he didn't know what will happen when Britain leaves

Re: Plaid Cymru voters beware

Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:38 pm

Plaid should be honest and just admit, that after all these years they haven’t got anywhere, have no decent ideas, nor are ever likely to.

They should all resign and apply for proper jobs. What a failure.

Re: Plaid Cymru voters beware

Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:43 pm

ElyBoy1984 wrote:
moonboots wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Wayne S wrote:Didn't they say; only if Corbyn backs remain? Which he wont.



Corbyn as a choice drop his idea of being temp PM or unequivocally back remain! or he's got no chance of blocking Brexit as not enough MPs will back no confidence vote
As for plaid what planet are they on to think Wales can be independent?

Strangely enough the vast majority of countries around the world are independent, no matter what size of population. It seems to be the natural thing to do!! But we like to be one of the odd ones out...so it seems.
It'll be interesting when UK crashes out of Europe to see what happens if the Scots leave and Ireland unites. We might have to pull our finger out and fend for ourselves. Food for thought.


We won't be "crashing out" of the E.U. ...
I wish people would stop this linguistic brainwashing. The elites are laughing at how easily they can spread fear and panic using subconscious brain washing.


And Johnson and Rees Mogg are not the elites? Do me a favour. You are the one who has been brainwashed. Subconciously of course.

Re: Plaid Cymru voters beware

Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:46 pm

ElyBoy1984 wrote:Which prominent brexiteer thinks no deal will be catastrophic
Wales? Sounds like more lies.

During the referendum all the prominent campaigners stated a no deal Brexit could happen. Wales still voted to leave.


Bollox, Show me any evidence of that. Go on show me.

Re: Plaid Cymru voters beware

Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:46 pm

ElyBoy1984 wrote:Which prominent brexiteer thinks no deal will be catastrophic
Wales? Sounds like more lies.

During the referendum all the prominent campaigners stated a no deal Brexit could happen. Wales still voted to leave.


Bollox, Show me any evidence of that. Go on show me.

Re: Plaid Cymru voters beware

Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:48 pm

pembroke allan wrote:For those interested this is the 2 questions on ballot paper Where is deal or no deal in the question? :laughing6:

Remain a member of the European Union

Leave the European Union

Nothing more nothing less so those politicians bleating about people didn't vote for no deal well they couldn't do so because wasnt on ballot paper in 1st place nor was leave with a deal either :thumbup:


Decisons were taken on the basis of the evidence (lies) and arguments (lies) at the time. At no point was no deal part of those arguments. Show me evidence that it was.