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Re: Boris do as your told

Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:01 pm

New Deal in the next few days ... Here We Go Again !!!

Re: Boris do as your told

Fri Oct 04, 2019 7:57 pm

The UK government has issued a statement to a court hearing claiming that prime minister Boris Johnson will seek an extension to Article 50 if his Brexit plan is rejected by the EU. This comes as European Union sources have reportedly agreed that, if necessary, the EU will bypass Johnson altogether to avoid a no-deal Brexit.


Like the heading says :lol: or is it a bluff :lol:

Re: Boris do as your told

Fri Oct 04, 2019 8:15 pm

Sneggyblubird wrote:
The UK government has issued a statement to a court hearing claiming that prime minister Boris Johnson will seek an extension to Article 50 if his Brexit plan is rejected by the EU. This comes as European Union sources have reportedly agreed that, if necessary, the EU will bypass Johnson altogether to avoid a no-deal Brexit.


Like the heading says :lol: or is it a bluff :lol:



How can EU bypass boris? I thought we were leaving EU and not the EU leaving uk? :laughing6:

Re: Boris do as your told

Sat Oct 05, 2019 6:27 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:
The UK government has issued a statement to a court hearing claiming that prime minister Boris Johnson will seek an extension to Article 50 if his Brexit plan is rejected by the EU. This comes as European Union sources have reportedly agreed that, if necessary, the EU will bypass Johnson altogether to avoid a no-deal Brexit.


Like the heading says :lol: or is it a bluff :lol:



How can EU bypass boris? I thought we were leaving EU and not the EU leaving uk? :laughing6:


I know, How can the E.U. by-pass the British prime minister and keep us in longer? :lol:

Re: Boris do as your told

Sat Oct 05, 2019 7:00 pm

Sneggyblubird wrote:This comes as European Union sources have reportedly agreed that, if necessary, the EU will bypass Johnson altogether to avoid a no-deal Brexit.


In other news a leaked transcript of some EU minor bureaucrats working on dotting some i's and crossing some t's deep in the belly of the EU beast has been leaked...

Bureaucrat #1: Hans....?
Bureaucrat #2: Yes Olaf?
Bureaucrat #1: Do you ever wonder....
Bureaucrat #2: Go on...
Bureaucrat #1: Well, do you not think even sometimes that we might be just a tiny bit like...
Bureaucrat #2: like what Olaf?
Bureaucrat #1: Well. that we might just be the baddies? You know? It's just that things like this whole bypassing of their government's actual leader and then negotiating with a fifth column of pro-EU 'plants'... that could kind of come across as, well, you know, the kind of thing the baddies might actually do?
Bureaucrat #2: Nah, don't be daft Olaf! We're the good guys.
Bureaucrat #1: You sure Hans, I mean really sure?
Bureaucrat #1:100% Nothing to worry about comrade! Anyway, did you like the new uniform?
Bureaucrat #2: Yeah it's well nice. Loving the goat head/satan motif in the new emblem. Could maybe do with some more snakes and skulls though.

Re: Boris do as your told

Sat Oct 05, 2019 7:14 pm

ealing_ayatollah wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:This comes as European Union sources have reportedly agreed that, if necessary, the EU will bypass Johnson altogether to avoid a no-deal Brexit.


In other news a leaked transcript of some EU minor bureaucrats working on dotting some i's and crossing some t's deep in the belly of the EU beast has been leaked...

Bureaucrat #1: Hans....?
Bureaucrat #2: Yes Olaf?
Bureaucrat #1: Do you ever wonder....
Bureaucrat #2: Go on...
Bureaucrat #1: Well, do you not think even sometimes that we might be just a tiny bit like...
Bureaucrat #2: like what Olaf?
Bureaucrat #1: Well. that we might just be the baddies? You know? It's just that things like this whole bypassing of their government's actual leader and then negotiating with a fifth column of pro-EU 'plants'... that could kind of come across as, well, you know, the kind of thing the baddies might actually do?
Bureaucrat #2: Nah, don't be daft Olaf! We're the good guys.
Bureaucrat #1: You sure Hans, I mean really sure?
Bureaucrat #1:100% Nothing to worry about comrade! Anyway, did you like the new uniform?
Bureaucrat #2: Yeah it's well nice. Loving the goat head/satan motif in the new emblem. Could maybe do with some more snakes and skulls though.


:lol:

Re: Boris do as your told

Tue Oct 08, 2019 9:34 pm

Going from Bad to Worse this .....

Re: Boris do as your told

Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:31 am

Never going to happen in my opinion. The EU will do all they can to stop it, they need our money. Parliament will do all they can to stop it, too many of them with links to businesses getting EU grants. If we became free of the EU shackles, and after the initial teething problems became a more prosperous country, imagine what that would do to the EU, and how many others would want their own referendum. Like everything, money talks and we will still be arguing about EU membership in 20 years time.

Re: Boris do as your told

Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:53 am

Steve Zodiak wrote:Never going to happen in my opinion. The EU will do all they can to stop it, they need our money. Parliament will do all they can to stop it, too many of them with links to businesses getting EU grants. If we became free of the EU shackles, and after the initial teething problems became a more prosperous country, imagine what that would do to the EU, and how many others would want their own referendum. Like everything, money talks and we will still be arguing about EU membership in 20 years time.



Steve don't forget the Scottish laws another one is going through courts to try and take control of sending letter to EU from boris? Your right to many politicians have snouts in the EU trough so cannot see us leaving unless boris stays on for election and wins a majority fighting on a Brexit mandate! But remainers will probably scream result is undemocratic.... :laughing6:

Re: Boris do as your told

Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:25 am

pembroke allan wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:Never going to happen in my opinion. The EU will do all they can to stop it, they need our money. Parliament will do all they can to stop it, too many of them with links to businesses getting EU grants. If we became free of the EU shackles, and after the initial teething problems became a more prosperous country, imagine what that would do to the EU, and how many others would want their own referendum. Like everything, money talks and we will still be arguing about EU membership in 20 years time.



Steve don't forget the Scottish laws another one is going through courts to try and take control of sending letter to EU from boris? Your right to many politicians have snouts in the EU trough so cannot see us leaving unless boris stays on for election and wins a majority fighting on a Brexit mandate! But remainers will probably scream result is undemocratic.... :laughing6:


Laughable taking someone to court concerning something that he may or may not do at a future date. Almost as bad as someone taking me to court for possible drink driving next Saturday. Looks like every time someone does not agree with something Parliament does, or intends to do, they will go to court to get decisions overturned. Almost makes democracy a pointless exercise.

Re: Boris do as your told

Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:38 pm

The EU want to give a 9 month extension on the 31st Oct.. Can you guess what’s just doable in 9 months ? Can you guess ? What’s been heavily backed by foreign billionaires, run by Amber Rudd’s brother & pushed by certain MPs that u-turned on their positions? P
A PEOPLES VOTE!.......
Post World War 2 Britain and America going around the globe lecturing other countries about democracy when our own democracy seems to have been a joke all along.

Re: Boris do as your told

Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:09 pm

ElyBoy1984 wrote:The EU want to give a 9 month extension on the 31st Oct.. Can you guess what’s just doable in 9 months ? Can you guess ? What’s been heavily backed by foreign billionaires, run by Amber Rudd’s brother & pushed by certain MPs that u-turned on their positions? P
A PEOPLES VOTE!.......
Post World War 2 Britain and America going around the globe lecturing other countries about democracy when our own democracy seems to have been a joke all along.


Whats anti democratic ? A vote that's not legally binding and lawful.And what about BJ's mates profiting from a no deal Brexit.Pot,kettle,black.

Re: Boris do as your told

Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:11 pm

Sneggyblubird wrote:
ElyBoy1984 wrote:The EU want to give a 9 month extension on the 31st Oct.. Can you guess what’s just doable in 9 months ? Can you guess ? What’s been heavily backed by foreign billionaires, run by Amber Rudd’s brother & pushed by certain MPs that u-turned on their positions? P
A PEOPLES VOTE!.......
Post World War 2 Britain and America going around the globe lecturing other countries about democracy when our own democracy seems to have been a joke all along.


Whats anti democratic ? A vote that's not legally binding and lawful.And what about BJ's mates profiting from a no deal Brexit.Pot,kettle,black.


If the 2016 referendum wasn't legally binding. Niether was the 1975 referendum to continue as a member of the then EEC.

Boris Johnson's mates? Who?

Re: Boris do as your told

Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:44 pm

ElyBoy1984 wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:
ElyBoy1984 wrote:The EU want to give a 9 month extension on the 31st Oct.. Can you guess what’s just doable in 9 months ? Can you guess ? What’s been heavily backed by foreign billionaires, run by Amber Rudd’s brother & pushed by certain MPs that u-turned on their positions? P
A PEOPLES VOTE!.......
Post World War 2 Britain and America going around the globe lecturing other countries about democracy when our own democracy seems to have been a joke all along.


Whats anti democratic ? A vote that's not legally binding and lawful.And what about BJ's mates profiting from a no deal Brexit.Pot,kettle,black.


If the 2016 referendum wasn't legally binding. Niether was the 1975 referendum Yupto continue as a member of the then EEC.

Boris Johnson's mates? WhoForein millionaries who?

Re: Boris do as your told

Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:48 pm

The 1975 vote to remain in the EEC was only advisory but enacted in an apparent act of good faith, it became illegitimate after the Mastrict Treaty in 1992. Yet no out cry for democratic accountability from pro E.U. people then.

American Billionaire George Soros is funding anti Brexit campaigns in Britain. George Soros pays Jo Swinson's(Lib Dem leader) husband. He is also recieving millions from the E.U. apparently.

Who are these imaginary friends of Boris in the city? Names sneggy?

Re: Boris do as your told

Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:05 pm

ElyBoy1984 wrote:The 1975 vote to remain in the EEC was only advisory but enacted in an apparent act of good faith, it became illegitimate after the Mastrict Treaty in 1992. Yet no out cry for democratic accountability from pro E.U. people then.

American Billionaire George Soros is funding anti Brexit campaigns in Britain. George Soros pays Jo Swinson's(Lib Dem leader) husband. He is also recieving millions from the E.U. apparently.

Who are these imaginary friends of Boris in the city? Names sneggy?

Crispin odey made over £200 million from the brexit vote
James hanbury made over £100 mill
Jacob Rees mogg has made about£7 mill from it.
Boris Johnsons sister has also said he's influenced by people in the city who've invested billions in a no deal brexit.
And not to mention the pic of farage smiling and pointing at a graph with the pound plunging.

The only reason for brexit is for the rich to get richer and not pay the new EU tax laws.

Re: Boris do as your told

Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:07 pm

ElyBoy1984 wrote:
ealing_ayatollah wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:This comes as European Union sources have reportedly agreed that, if necessary, the EU will bypass Johnson altogether to avoid a no-deal Brexit.


In other news a leaked transcript of some EU minor bureaucrats working on dotting some i's and crossing some t's deep in the belly of the EU beast has been leaked...

Bureaucrat #1: Hans....?
Bureaucrat #2: Yes Olaf?
Bureaucrat #1: Do you ever wonder....
Bureaucrat #2: Go on...
Bureaucrat #1: Well, do you not think even sometimes that we might be just a tiny bit like...
Bureaucrat #2: like what Olaf?
Bureaucrat #1: Well. that we might just be the baddies? You know? It's just that things like this whole bypassing of their government's actual leader and then negotiating with a fifth column of pro-EU 'plants'... that could kind of come across as, well, you know, the kind of thing the baddies might actually do?
Bureaucrat #2: Nah, don't be daft Olaf! We're the good guys.
Bureaucrat #1: You sure Hans, I mean really sure?
Bureaucrat #1:100% Nothing to worry about comrade! Anyway, did you like the new uniform?
Bureaucrat #2: Yeah it's well nice. Loving the goat head/satan motif in the new emblem. Could maybe do with some more snakes and skulls though.


:lol:


:laughing5: :laughing5:

Re: Boris do as your told

Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:11 pm

CCFCJosh75 wrote:The only reason for brexit is for the rich to get richer and not pay the new EU tax laws.


Other reasons, end homelessness, increase pay, take back control, no EU Army, not ruled by appointed commissioners to mention a few. :roll:

Re: Boris do as your told

Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:13 pm

CCFCJosh75 wrote:
ElyBoy1984 wrote:The 1975 vote to remain in the EEC was only advisory but enacted in an apparent act of good faith, it became illegitimate after the Mastrict Treaty in 1992. Yet no out cry for democratic accountability from pro E.U. people then.

American Billionaire George Soros is funding anti Brexit campaigns in Britain. George Soros pays Jo Swinson's(Lib Dem leader) husband. He is also recieving millions from the E.U. apparently.

Who are these imaginary friends of Boris in the city? Names sneggy?

Crispin odey made over £200 million from the brexit vote
James hanbury made over £100 mill
Jacob Rees mogg has made about£7 mill from it.
Boris Johnsons sister has also said he's influenced by people in the city who've invested billions in a no deal brexit.
And not to mention the pic of farage smiling and pointing at a graph with the pound plunging.

The only reason for brexit is for the rich to get richer and not pay the new EU tax laws.


Hello Josh, billionaires will hedge bets and make money on either brexit outcome.
How can you link these people inextricably to Boris Brexiting? You can't? If not what is the relevance?

George Soros(American billionaire REMAINER) made a stack of money on gold trading on account of Brexit.

Re: Boris do as your told

Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:15 pm

Sneggyblubird wrote:
Whats anti democratic ?


Anti democratic is when a result of a referendum is not enacted upon and the losing side try to derail the result. :roll:

As for the referendum being 'advisory' the Government asked the people for advice on leaving the EU and the majority said YES please leave. Therefore time to go :D

Re: Boris do as your told

Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:19 pm

ElyBoy1984 wrote:
George Soros(American billionaire REMAINER) made a stack of money on gold trading on account of Brexit.


Isn't that the bloke who broke the Bank of England on black Wednesday? I'm sure I read somewhere he made £1billion on betting against the £ during the ERM crisis back in the early 90'.

Re: Boris do as your told

Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:23 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
ElyBoy1984 wrote:
George Soros(American billionaire REMAINER) made a stack of money on gold trading on account of Brexit.


Isn't that the bloke who broke the Bank of England on black Wednesday? I'm sure I read somewhere he made £1billion on betting against the £ during the ERM crisis back in the early 90'.


Correct. Has his finger in all pies. Very influential in forcing an open borders policy across the western world.

Re: Boris do as your told

Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:25 pm

ElyBoy1984 wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
ElyBoy1984 wrote:The 1975 vote to remain in the EEC was only advisory but enacted in an apparent act of good faith, it became illegitimate after the Mastrict Treaty in 1992. Yet no out cry for democratic accountability from pro E.U. people then.

American Billionaire George Soros is funding anti Brexit campaigns in Britain. George Soros pays Jo Swinson's(Lib Dem leader) husband. He is also recieving millions from the E.U. apparently.

Who are these imaginary friends of Boris in the city? Names sneggy?

Crispin odey made over £200 million from the brexit vote
James hanbury made over £100 mill
Jacob Rees mogg has made about£7 mill from it.
Boris Johnsons sister has also said he's influenced by people in the city who've invested billions in a no deal brexit.
And not to mention the pic of farage smiling and pointing at a graph with the pound plunging.

The only reason for brexit is for the rich to get richer and not pay the new EU tax laws.


Hello Josh, billionaires will hedge bets and make money on either brexit outcome.
How can you link these people inextricably to Boris Brexiting? You can't? If not what is the relevance?

George Soros(American billionaire REMAINER) made a stack of money on gold trading on account of Brexit.


If we leave, the EU will be left with a huge hole in their budget. Percentage wise comparing the amount countries pay in to what they get back, we are bottom of the table. With the probability of additional poorer nations joining this club, the amount paid back will get even smaller, or our contributions will get much bigger. Just keep your fingers crossed that the ambitions of Germany's previous Chancellor, Mr. Kohl, never comes to fruition.

Re: Boris do as your told

Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:37 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:The only reason for brexit is for the rich to get richer and not pay the new EU tax laws.


Other reasons, end homelessness, increase pay, take back control, no EU Army, not ruled by appointed commissioners to mention a few. :roll:

Brexit will end homelessness? According to shelter homelessness is going up by an equivalent of 36 a day and last year there was at least 320,000 homeless people but potentially next month that number will be 0?
EU army- We use our veto, the only way there can be an EU army is if we leave therefore it does appear you're in favour of one.
Take back control- except people on here moan about judges, Welsh and national government.
Increase pay- for those who will still have jobs presumably

Re: Boris do as your told

Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:39 pm

I'm still not sure why a Hungarian American billionaire like Goerge Soros is interfering with British democratic affairs. His tecticles spread far and wide. What are his motives? Apart from importing cheap foriegn Labour into Europe and making lots of money. What does the George Soros ideal world look like?

Re: Boris do as your told

Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:45 pm

CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:The only reason for brexit is for the rich to get richer and not pay the new EU tax laws.


Other reasons, end homelessness, increase pay, take back control, no EU Army, not ruled by appointed commissioners to mention a few. :roll:

Brexit will end homelessness? According to shelter homelessness is going up by an equivalent of 36 a day and last year there was at least 320,000 homeless people but potentially next month that number will be 0?
EU army- We use our veto, the only way there can be an EU army is if we leave therefore it does appear you're in favour of one.
Take back control- except people on here moan about judges, Welsh and national government.
Increase pay- for those who will still have jobs presumably


The E.U. are discuss phasing out the veto in favour of majority rule. If it wants to react quickly and compete globally, It has to do this. Ever greater union is the direction of travel inside the E.U.
This means less and less control for individual countries. The national identity is being reduced.
Love your country? reject the E.U.

Re: Boris do as your told

Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:47 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:Never going to happen in my opinion. The EU will do all they can to stop it, they need our money. Parliament will do all they can to stop it, too many of them with links to businesses getting EU grants. If we became free of the EU shackles, and after the initial teething problems became a more prosperous country, imagine what that would do to the EU, and how many others would want their own referendum. Like everything, money talks and we will still be arguing about EU membership in 20 years time.



Steve don't forget the Scottish laws another one is going through courts to try and take control of sending letter to EU from boris? Your right to many politicians have snouts in the EU trough so cannot see us leaving unless boris stays on for election and wins a majority fighting on a Brexit mandate! But remainers will probably scream result is undemocratic.... :laughing6:


Alan I really don't understand, this law saying they would send a letter is unique to Scotland, there is no such law in England that allows the courts to do this, I wonder if they are using Scottish courts because they think that the Government does not realize that it does not count in England. One last point re the law that was passed forcing Johnson to ask for an extension, there is a law which has been passed by parliament, that says October 31st. is the legal date that we leave the uk, and how that is overruled by the benn law that they rushed through parliament I don't know. Methinks Boris , really has something up his sleeve :thumbup:

Re: Boris do as your told

Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:47 pm

CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:The only reason for brexit is for the rich to get richer and not pay the new EU tax laws.


Other reasons, end homelessness, increase pay, take back control, no EU Army, not ruled by appointed commissioners to mention a few. :roll:

Brexit will end homelessness? According to shelter homelessness is going up by an equivalent of 36 a day and last year there was at least 320,000 homeless people but potentially next month that number will be 0?
EU army- We use our veto, the only way there can be an EU army is if we leave therefore it does appear you're in favour of one.
Take back control- except people on here moan about judges, Welsh and national government.
Increase pay- for those who will still have jobs presumably


Before we joined the Common Market, I never saw anyone living in shop doorways. Food banks were unheard of, and I doubt if any of us could ever imagine this country needing them. Getting a job was easy. When I left school, I applied for three, was accepted for two of them and then had to choose which one to take. If I had not liked it, no problem, plenty more to choose from. Knife crime was not a daily occurrence.Is any of this the fault of the EU? Almost certainly no, but don't claim that the EU is all about plus points and no negatives. Homelessness, food banks, high unemployment and plenty more has all come about since we were part of this club. Not claiming everything was perfect by any means prior to this, but things have been far from perfect during our time in the EU.

Re: Boris do as your told

Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:55 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:
Whats anti democratic ?


Anti democratic is when a result of a referendum is not enacted upon and the losing side try to derail the result. :roll:

As for the referendum being 'advisory' the Government asked the people for advice on leaving the EU and the majority said YES please leave. Therefore time to go :D



Must be home and dry then. :lol:

Re: Boris do as your told

Wed Oct 09, 2019 5:05 pm

Sneggyblubird wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:
Whats anti democratic ?


Anti democratic is when a result of a referendum is not enacted upon and the losing side try to derail the result. :roll:

As for the referendum being 'advisory' the Government asked the people for advice on leaving the EU and the majority said YES please leave. Therefore time to go :D



Must be home and dry then. :lol:


I am fairly certain, as I have been for the last couple of years, that we will never leave. The EU will make things as difficult as possible for us simply because they need our money. Parliament will not let us leave because too many of them have their snouts in the trough. Doesn't really matter one way or the other what the people of the UK want, ultimately we will all have to do exactly as we are told. Won't make any difference to me as I am not filthy rich, other than it will save me further visits to the local polling station as this will be proof that my view only counts providing it is acceptable to 650 people who base themselves in London.