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Re: Boris do as your told

Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:41 am

exile wrote:
ElyBoy1984 wrote:This morning Nigel Farage has spoken with Barnier and Juncker, he says their language is softening on minor compromises to the WA. Farage has said that he suspects Boris will tweak Theresa May's withdrawal agreement at the October 17th summit.
If this is true we still pay £39 billion a year. We are still under the jurisdiction of the the European Court of Justice(enforced immigration), we are still in the customs union(no trade deals without E.U. consent)

If true Brexit Party here we come.


if that is true,then we all might as well voted to remain.an appeasement for big business to carry on breaking down peoples wages etc .the unions are in for some big fights ahead.



Market forces will do more for wages than the Unions could ever hope to achieve. In the 3 years since we voted to leave and as a consequence of fewer Europeans coming to work, here there is significant wage pressure on employers, particularly in the south east and more so at basic labour levels. That had to happen and will spread to other parts of the country in due course.

Re: Boris do as your told

Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:01 am

epping blue wrote:
exile wrote:
ElyBoy1984 wrote:This morning Nigel Farage has spoken with Barnier and Juncker, he says their language is softening on minor compromises to the WA. Farage has said that he suspects Boris will tweak Theresa May's withdrawal agreement at the October 17th summit.
If this is true we still pay £39 billion a year. We are still under the jurisdiction of the the European Court of Justice(enforced immigration), we are still in the customs union(no trade deals without E.U. consent)

If true Brexit Party here we come.


if that is true,then we all might as well voted to remain.an appeasement for big business to carry on breaking down peoples wages etc .the unions are in for some big fights ahead.



Market forces will do more for wages than the Unions could ever hope to achieve. In the 3 years since we voted to leave and as a consequence of fewer Europeans coming to work, here there is significant wage pressure on employers, particularly in the south east and more so at basic labour levels. That had to happen and will spread to other parts of the country in due course.


i hope you're right but won't that type of deal open the floodgates again .

Re: Boris do as your told

Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:20 am

exile wrote:you can quote money for this and that and yes there are a lot of greedy selfish b'strds about but the main reason people voted to leave was as elyboy1984 said .people fear for there jobs.a lot of people in working class areas are already on the breadline and to remain would mean further exploitation .it has nothing to to with racism before that one comes up again.simples,all the rest is bullshit. ;)

At one time working class people were Labours core vote, now Labours the party of middle class virtue signallers it treats the working class contemptuously.

Re: Boris do as your told

Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:24 am

exile wrote:
epping blue wrote:
exile wrote:
ElyBoy1984 wrote:This morning Nigel Farage has spoken with Barnier and Juncker, he says their language is softening on minor compromises to the WA. Farage has said that he suspects Boris will tweak Theresa May's withdrawal agreement at the October 17th summit.
If this is true we still pay £39 billion a year. We are still under the jurisdiction of the the European Court of Justice(enforced immigration), we are still in the customs union(no trade deals without E.U. consent)

If true Brexit Party here we come.


if that is true,then we all might as well voted to remain.an appeasement for big business to carry on breaking down peoples wages etc .the unions are in for some big fights ahead.



Market forces will do more for wages than the Unions could ever hope to achieve. In the 3 years since we voted to leave and as a consequence of fewer Europeans coming to work, here there is significant wage pressure on employers, particularly in the south east and more so at basic labour levels. That had to happen and will spread to other parts of the country in due course.


i hope you're right but won't that type of deal open the floodgates again .



Hopefully leaving the EU will close the floodgates but we'll still need masses of immigration to be honest. I want London to slow down but it'll still need a lot of immigration. I would suspect that migration from the rest of the country is at an all time low. Housing costs just make it not worthwhile. Plenty of students come straight from college as I did 35 years ago, but I think less are staying any length of time.

Re: Boris do as your told

Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:17 pm

Jock wrote:
exile wrote:you can quote money for this and that and yes there are a lot of greedy selfish b'strds about but the main reason people voted to leave was as elyboy1984 said .people fear for there jobs.a lot of people in working class areas are already on the breadline and to remain would mean further exploitation .it has nothing to to with racism before that one comes up again.simples,all the rest is bullshit. ;)

At one time working class people were Labours core vote, now Labours the party of middle class virtue signallers it treats the working class contemptuously.


yes jock but what choice do we have and whats the point of any of them if they don't carry out the the democratic vote.

Re: Boris do as your told

Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:26 pm

exile wrote:
Jock wrote:
exile wrote:you can quote money for this and that and yes there are a lot of greedy selfish b'strds about but the main reason people voted to leave was as elyboy1984 said .people fear for there jobs.a lot of people in working class areas are already on the breadline and to remain would mean further exploitation .it has nothing to to with racism before that one comes up again.simples,all the rest is bullshit. ;)

At one time working class people were Labours core vote, now Labours the party of middle class virtue signallers it treats the working class contemptuously.


yes jock but what choice do we have and whats the point of any of them if they don't carry out the the democratic vote.

Very true mate, Brexit has proved what a shower of self serving parasites they all are. Swinson pledges not to call for a second vote, Corbyn pledges to smash the E.U., May no deal is better than a bad deal and Boris wrote a pro and anti brexit article the day before the referendum. Then they get a sniff of power and every principle they pretended to have go out the window.

Re: Boris do as your told

Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:38 pm

Jock wrote:
exile wrote:
Jock wrote:
exile wrote:you can quote money for this and that and yes there are a lot of greedy selfish b'strds about but the main reason people voted to leave was as elyboy1984 said .people fear for there jobs.a lot of people in working class areas are already on the breadline and to remain would mean further exploitation .it has nothing to to with racism before that one comes up again.simples,all the rest is bullshit. ;)

At one time working class people were Labours core vote, now Labours the party of middle class virtue signallers it treats the working class contemptuously.


yes jock but what choice do we have and whats the point of any of them if they don't carry out the the democratic vote.

Very true mate, Brexit has proved what a shower of self serving parasites they all are. Swinson pledges not to call for a second vote, Corbyn pledges to smash the E.U., May no deal is better than a bad deal and Boris wrote a pro and anti brexit article the day before the referendum. Then they get a sniff of power and every principle they pretended to have go out the window.


yep the greed ball is rolling out of control.
what happened to doing the best for the people of the country they've been voted in to take care of :lol:

Re: Boris do as your told

Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:45 pm

Jock wrote:
exile wrote:you can quote money for this and that and yes there are a lot of greedy selfish b'strds about but the main reason people voted to leave was as elyboy1984 said .people fear for there jobs.a lot of people in working class areas are already on the breadline and to remain would mean further exploitation .it has nothing to to with racism before that one comes up again.simples,all the rest is bullshit. ;)

At one time working class people were Labours core vote, now Labours the party of middle class virtue signallers it treats the working class contemptuously.




Your right. Tom Watson should start representing the views of the people of West Bromwich and not West Hampstead.

Re: Boris do as your told

Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:49 pm

epping blue wrote:
Jock wrote:
exile wrote:you can quote money for this and that and yes there are a lot of greedy selfish b'strds about but the main reason people voted to leave was as elyboy1984 said .people fear for there jobs.a lot of people in working class areas are already on the breadline and to remain would mean further exploitation .it has nothing to to with racism before that one comes up again.simples,all the rest is bullshit. ;)

At one time working class people were Labours core vote, now Labours the party of middle class virtue signallers it treats the working class contemptuously.




Your right. Tom Watson should start representing the views of the people of West Bromwich and not West Hampstead.


:laughing5: yeh or stick to golf

Re: Boris do as your told

Wed Sep 18, 2019 1:04 pm

exile wrote:
epping blue wrote:
Jock wrote:
exile wrote:you can quote money for this and that and yes there are a lot of greedy selfish b'strds about but the main reason people voted to leave was as elyboy1984 said .people fear for there jobs.a lot of people in working class areas are already on the breadline and to remain would mean further exploitation .it has nothing to to with racism before that one comes up again.simples,all the rest is bullshit. ;)

At one time working class people were Labours core vote, now Labours the party of middle class virtue signallers it treats the working class contemptuously.




Your right. Tom Watson should start representing the views of the people of West Bromwich and not West Hampstead.


:laughing5: yeh or stick to golf

Bwhaha

Re: Boris do as your told

Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:53 pm

Corbyn master plan is have another referendum with remain on ballot and a new leave plan with ties to EU through trade ect negotiated by him? Talk about botched job ..... :banghead:

Re: Boris do as your told

Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:10 pm

pembroke allan wrote:Corbyn master plan is have another referendum with remain on ballot and a new leave plan with ties to EU through trade ect negotiated by him? Talk about botched job ..... :banghead:


Just watched a Lib Dem party political broadcast on the Beeb. They said they were proud to be part of the continent of Europe. Never realised any of us ever suggested that the UK should no longer be part of the European continent. Always thought that was a geographical term, cannot see any way we can ever be anything other than part of the European continent.

Re: Boris do as your told

Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:51 pm

epping blue wrote:
Jock wrote:
exile wrote:you can quote money for this and that and yes there are a lot of greedy selfish b'strds about but the main reason people voted to leave was as elyboy1984 said .people fear for there jobs.a lot of people in working class areas are already on the breadline and to remain would mean further exploitation .it has nothing to to with racism before that one comes up again.simples,all the rest is bullshit. ;)

At one time working class people were Labours core vote, now Labours the party of middle class virtue signallers it treats the working class contemptuously.




Your right. Tom Watson should start representing the views of the people of West Bromwich and not West Hampstead.


Or slimming World :laughing6:

Re: Boris do as your told

Thu Sep 19, 2019 5:26 pm

pembroke allan wrote:Corbyn master plan is have another referendum with remain on ballot and a new leave plan with ties to EU through trade ect negotiated by him? Talk about botched job ..... :banghead:

The same Corbyn who pledged to smash the EU

Re: Boris do as your told

Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:36 pm

Jock wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Corbyn master plan is have another referendum with remain on ballot and a new leave plan with ties to EU through trade ect negotiated by him? Talk about botched job ..... :banghead:

The same Corbyn who pledged to smash the EU



Yep that's the one! He Changes mind more times than a chameleon changes colour? :laughing6:

Re: Boris do as your told

Wed Sep 25, 2019 10:01 pm

Still a mess !!!

Re: Boris do as your told

Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:24 am

Sneggyblubird wrote:Come monday the no-deal option would be breaking the law.He said he'd never do it but he'll have to ask the EU for an extension.Doing as he's told-good enough for him :lol:



He's still not doing it, he has a little trick up his sleeve :thumbup:

Re: Boris do as your told

Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:18 pm

Bluebina wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:Come monday the no-deal option would be breaking the law.He said he'd never do it but he'll have to ask the EU for an extension.Doing as he's told-good enough for him :lol:



He's still not doing it, he has a little trick up his sleeve :thumbup:


I think your right but at least parliament seem to be wising up to him and that Cummings fella and as their not porouged any more have time to do something about it.

Re: Boris do as your told

Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:59 pm

Sneggyblubird wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:Come monday the no-deal option would be breaking the law.He said he'd never do it but he'll have to ask the EU for an extension.Doing as he's told-good enough for him :lol:



He's still not doing it, he has a little trick up his sleeve :thumbup:


I think your right but at least parliament seem to be wising up to him and that Cummings fella and as their not porouged any more have time to do something about it.



Shows how desperate remainers getting they are now considering supporting Corbyn as a temporary PM when previously they said No way josè ! But that is doomed to fail as even anti Brexit cons wont vote for Corbyn nor will libs ? Why cant these frauds admit openly that they dont want Brexit under any circumstances not hide behind the no deal vasage, Then maybe we will get somewhere?

Re: Boris do as your told

Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:03 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:Come monday the no-deal option would be breaking the law.He said he'd never do it but he'll have to ask the EU for an extension.Doing as he's told-good enough for him :lol:



He's still not doing it, he has a little trick up his sleeve :thumbup:


I think your right but at least parliament seem to be wising up to him and that Cummings fella and as their not porouged any more have time to do something about it.



Shows how desperate remainers getting they are now considering supporting Corbyn as a temporary PM when previously they said No way josè ! But that is doomed to fail as even anti Brexit cons wont vote for Corbyn nor will libs ? Why cant these frauds admit openly that they dont want Brexit under any circumstances not hide behind the no deal vasage, Then maybe we will get somewhere?


Its the very same reason that Boris is only pretending to get a deal and lying to the queen.And if it stops a no deal Brexit I'd support Corbin too.At least he's set out what he stands for rather than pretend he after one thing but really wants another.

Re: Boris do as your told

Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:54 pm

Sneggyblubird wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:Come monday the no-deal option would be breaking the law.He said he'd never do it but he'll have to ask the EU for an extension.Doing as he's told-good enough for him :lol:



He's still not doing it, he has a little trick up his sleeve :thumbup:


I think your right but at least parliament seem to be wising up to him and that Cummings fella and as their not porouged any more have time to do something about it.



Shows how desperate remainers getting they are now considering supporting Corbyn as a temporary PM when previously they said No way josè ! But that is doomed to fail as even anti Brexit cons wont vote for Corbyn nor will libs ? Why cant these frauds admit openly that they dont want Brexit under any circumstances not hide behind the no deal vasage, Then maybe we will get somewhere?


Its the very same reason that Boris is only pretending to get a deal and lying to the queen.And if it stops a no deal Brexit I'd support Corbin too.At least he's set out what he stands for rather than pretend he after one thing but really wants another.



Corbyn doesn't know what he stands for? He is firmly sitting on a barbed wire fence over Brexit! :laughing6:
But he will do whatever it takes to be PM that's for sure ... :thumbup:

Re: Boris do as your told

Fri Sep 27, 2019 3:03 pm

Sneggyblubird wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:Come monday the no-deal option would be breaking the law.He said he'd never do it but he'll have to ask the EU for an extension.Doing as he's told-good enough for him :lol:



He's still not doing it, he has a little trick up his sleeve :thumbup:


I think your right but at least parliament seem to be wising up to him and that Cummings fella and as their not porouged any more have time to do something about it.



Shows how desperate remainers getting they are now considering supporting Corbyn as a temporary PM when previously they said No way josè ! But that is doomed to fail as even anti Brexit cons wont vote for Corbyn nor will libs ? Why cant these frauds admit openly that they dont want Brexit under any circumstances not hide behind the no deal vasage, Then maybe we will get somewhere?


Its the very same reason that Boris is only pretending to get a deal and lying to the queen.And if it stops a no deal Brexit I'd support Corbin too.At least he's set out what he stands for rather than pretend he after one thing but really wants another.


Who knows what Corbyn stands for? Check out some of his past speeches to see his views on the EU. There was a time when his views were closer to Farage's views than those of his own party now. He changes his mind to suit other people, and will probably change it again if pressured into doing so. He's no worse than most of the others though, I would'nt trust any of these modern career politicians.

I doubt if whatever the final outcome is will have much affect on me. I am not a millionaire. I wonder how many posters on here have noticed a significant difference in their lifestyle since the referendum. I certainly have not despite the dire warnings from our Chancellor of economic doom, massive unemployment, stock market crashing and rising interest rates just by voting yes. My living standards remain unchanged, and we never even had the emergency budget he said would be needed to stop our economy from falling off the edge of a cliff.

Re: Boris do as your told

Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:29 pm

Bluebina wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:Come monday the no-deal option would be breaking the law.He said he'd never do it but he'll have to ask the EU for an extension.Doing as he's told-good enough for him :lol:



He's still not doing it, he has a little trick up his sleeve :thumbup:



Apparently he's got a plan and by quirk of fate it's by using EU law to do it with! Be interesting to see if he can do it or will the remainers get there 1st.... :old:

Re: Boris do as your told

Fri Sep 27, 2019 8:08 pm

Sneggyblubird wrote:If it stops a no deal Brexit I'd support Corbin too.At least he's set out what he stands for rather than pretend he after one thing but really wants another.


Yep Corbyn the life long anti EU politician who has done a U turn on his decades long opinion of leaving the EU as soon as he got a sniff of power is someone we should all get behind.

C'mon your better than that mate. Support Corbyn by all means but let's not pretend he's had a clear policy on Brexit and has stuck to it.

He's an elite educated opportunist just like Boris, just with half the charisma and a tenth of the intellect.

Re: Boris do as your told

Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:00 pm

ealing_ayatollah wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:If it stops a no deal Brexit I'd support Corbin too.At least he's set out what he stands for rather than pretend he after one thing but really wants another.


Yep Corbyn the life long anti EU politician who has done a U turn on his decades long opinion of leaving the EU as soon as he got a sniff of power is someone we should all get behind.

C'mon your better than that mate. Support Corbyn by all means but let's not pretend he's had a clear policy on Brexit and has stuck to it.

He's an elite educated opportunist just like Boris, just with half the charisma and a tenth of the intellect.


I'm no Jezza fan either but but I really do believe Boris is laughing up his sleeves at those that are supporting him.In 5 years time he'll be earning a fortune as an after dinner speaker whilst the people who supported him will still be paying the price.

Re: Boris do as your told

Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:54 pm

Do what Cummings tells you to do :o :roll:

Re: Boris do as your told

Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:13 am

Sneggyblubird wrote:
I'm no Jezza fan either but but I really do believe Boris is laughing up his sleeves at those that are supporting him.In 5 years time he'll be earning a fortune as an after dinner speaker whilst the people who supported him will still be paying the price.


You could say exactly the same about Major, Blair, Brown and Cameron so that's hardly a ground breaking point :lol:

Re: Boris do as your told

Sat Sep 28, 2019 10:15 am

Steve Zodiak wrote:
Who knows what Corbyn stands for?


Corbyn is a politician so he stands for one thing only, himself.....

Re: Boris do as your told

Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:25 am

I'm no Jezza fan either but but I really do believe Boris is laughing up his sleeves at those that are supporting him.In 5 years time he'll be earning a fortune as an after dinner speaker whilst the people who supported him will still be paying the price.

The price will be higher for Corbyn Sneg..

Re: Boris do as your told

Sun Sep 29, 2019 10:09 am

Sneggyblubird wrote:
ealing_ayatollah wrote:
Sneggyblubird wrote:If it stops a no deal Brexit I'd support Corbin too.At least he's set out what he stands for rather than pretend he after one thing but really wants another.


Yep Corbyn the life long anti EU politician who has done a U turn on his decades long opinion of leaving the EU as soon as he got a sniff of power is someone we should all get behind.

C'mon your better than that mate. Support Corbyn by all means but let's not pretend he's had a clear policy on Brexit and has stuck to it.

He's an elite educated opportunist just like Boris, just with half the charisma and a tenth of the intellect.


I'm no Jezza fan either but but I really do believe Boris is laughing up his sleeves at those that are supporting him.In 5 years time he'll be earning a fortune as an after dinner speaker whilst the people who supported him will still be paying the price.


You're confusing Boris with Labour's Tony Blair.