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' BAD NEWS FOR CARDIFF CITY STRIKER '

Thu Sep 26, 2019 12:13 pm

Injury Update: Isaac Vassell will miss 6-8 weeks with a torn quadricep muscle.

Neil Warnock: “Really disappointed for Isaac, who’d been training ever so well with us these past few weeks."

"It’s naturally a setback for him, but up to him to put the work into his rehabilitation now and come back to the group stronger.”

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Thu Sep 26, 2019 12:33 pm

The amount of injuries we have suffered recently is incredible.

Is it just bad luck or is there a problem with training methods at the club that is leaving our players prone to injury?

Shame for Vassell but he looks like he could be another player who looks like he'll spend most of the time injured.

And most of the injuries are reasonably long term as well which makes it even more frustrating.

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Thu Sep 26, 2019 12:51 pm

davids wrote:The amount of injuries we have suffered recently is incredible.

Is it just bad luck or is there a problem with training methods at the club that is leaving our players prone to injury?

Shame for Vassell but he looks like he could be another player who looks like he'll spend most of the time injured.

And most of the injuries are reasonably long term as well which makes it even more frustrating.


I don’t believe there’s a problem with the clubs training methods at all.

We’ve signed a sick note who has a history (as far I know) of injuries.

Re: BAD NEWS FOR CARDIFF CITY STRIKER

Thu Sep 26, 2019 12:53 pm

The injury prone striker we signed and did not need anyway is injured. About as predictable as it comes really. real waste of money

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Thu Sep 26, 2019 12:56 pm

2blue2handle wrote:The injury prone striker we signed and did not need anyway is injured. About as predictable as it comes really. real waste of money


Spot on. We spent 3m on him.

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Thu Sep 26, 2019 12:59 pm

Bluebird Warrior wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:The injury prone striker we signed and did not need anyway is injured. About as predictable as it comes really. real waste of money


Spot on. We spent 3m on him.


Wow didn't realise that, I thought it would have been a minimal fee considering his record. I was more concerned about the wages but that makes it even worse.

Re: BAD NEWS FOR CARDIFF CITY STRIKER

Thu Sep 26, 2019 1:05 pm

I have to say our injuries during training is abysmal.

Plus the amount of players we have paid £millions for that never play is beyond.

Re: BAD NEWS FOR CARDIFF CITY STRIKER

Thu Sep 26, 2019 1:40 pm

Another dreadful signing by Warncok and the board. Firstly we did not need him Warnock only plays with one up front and he likes it to be a big bloke who can put himself about a bit and Vassell appears to be third if not fourth choice in that pecking order so he was only likely to play as an emergency subsistute and not often as Warnock has a phobia about playing two strikers at the same time. Secondly his time at Birmingham was only notable for him being almost permanently injured and hardly ever scoring a goal.

Frankly it was possibly the worst signing since we took Liam Feeney who could not get into league one Blackburn's side on loan. I just wish our transfer committee,if we have one, stood up to the manager and stopped him making these stupid self indulgent signings.

On the plus side no one will much notice if he is out for the next eight weeks as he would probably never have played for us in that time anyway.

Re: BAD NEWS FOR CARDIFF CITY STRIKER

Thu Sep 26, 2019 1:44 pm

Seems a bit of a pointless signing to me. Unfortunately, he is not the only one, and I think we have wasted a fair bit of money during recent years.

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Thu Sep 26, 2019 1:56 pm

When Vessell played for his previous club Birmingham City.
Vassell was eased back into action midway through last season after a 14 month lay off with a severe knee injury, but was never the same player.

Cardiff City pay £mills and give Vassell a 3yr contract after playing just 23 games in two years for Birmingham City and scoring 1 goal.







Birmingham City forward Isaac Vassell will miss rest of season

By Darren Plant


Birmingham City have revealed that striker Isaac Vassell has undergone surgery on a serious knee injury.

Last month, Vassell was substituted during the first half of the derby clash with Aston Villa, and there were immediate fears that the summer signing could face a prolonged period on the sidelines.

The Championship side soon confirmed that the 24-year-old would require an operation on a ruptured anterior cruciate ligament, which was carried out earlier this week.

Birmingham have said that the surgery went as planned, but Vassell will still likely miss the remainder of the campaign and work towards returning for pre-season in July.

Since joining from Luton Town in August, Vassell has netted once in 10 appearances for Birmingham in all competitions.



Vassal went on to miss 14months of football for Birmingham City.
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Re: ' BAD NEWS FOR CARDIFF CITY STRIKER '

Thu Sep 26, 2019 2:05 pm

I've questioned this signing on other threads about him and strikers.
Whether he is injured or not frankly is almost irrelevant as he was never going to play anyway.
The issue is if he will be fit in January so we can save half his wages by loaning him out to a League 1 side as is the way with our back up strikers.
The transfer committee is a farce allowing our squad to become so imbalanced with strikers when we only play one and the favoured back up signed as a full back.

Re: BAD NEWS FOR CARDIFF CITY STRIKER

Thu Sep 26, 2019 2:35 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
Bluebird Warrior wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:The injury prone striker we signed and did not need anyway is injured. About as predictable as it comes really. real waste of money


Spot on. We spent 3m on him.


Wow didn't realise that, I thought it would have been a minimal fee considering his record. I was more concerned about the wages but that makes it even worse.


My thoughts exactly. Unnecessary signing given how many strikers we have and it was always going to be a risk given his recent injury problems. Didnt realise we spent £3mill on him though! That makes it even worse. That money could have been used towards bringing in players in positions we actual need. More transfer money and wages wasted on a player that we will probably see little contribution from. At least Jazz will have some company.

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Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:21 pm

Escott1927 wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
Bluebird Warrior wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:The injury prone striker we signed and did not need anyway is injured. About as predictable as it comes really. real waste of money


Spot on. We spent 3m on him.


Wow didn't realise that, I thought it would have been a minimal fee considering his record. I was more concerned about the wages but that makes it even worse.


My thoughts exactly. Unnecessary signing given how many strikers we have and it was always going to be a risk given his recent injury problems. Didnt realise we spent £3mill on him though! That makes it even worse. That money could have been used towards bringing in players in positions we actual need. More transfer money and wages wasted on a player that we will probably see little contribution from. At least Jazz will have some company.


Vassell has scored more than Madine. :old:

Disappointing for him and the club but it does raise questions about signing players with injuries.

The position with Jazz Richards is another one.

Re: ' BAD NEWS FOR CARDIFF CITY STRIKER '

Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:24 pm

It wasn’t three million for sure it was undisclosed.

Plus nobody was moaning when he scored the winner v Luton and looked a player.

Previous to that we were all moaning about lack of striker options. Can never win on here.

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Thu Sep 26, 2019 4:15 pm

maccydee wrote:It wasn’t three million for sure it was undisclosed.

Plus nobody was moaning when he scored the winner v Luton and looked a player.

Previous to that we were all moaning about lack of striker options. Can never win on here.


I dont think people were complaining about the number of strikers, let's be honest we have 5 strikers on good money for 1 position while threadbare elsewhere.

I would say people were concerned with the quality upfront and Vassell adds nothing we didn't have other than a wage on the injury table.

I certainly haven't seen him "look a player" yes he did well to get on the end of a cross in his cameo but surely no one judges a player on a few minutes.

From memory I think his longest time on the pitch was reading where he looked completely lost along with the rest.

Re: ' BAD NEWS FOR CARDIFF CITY STRIKER '

Thu Sep 26, 2019 4:39 pm

When it was rumoured that we were in for him just before deadline day I thought it was a joke. He had no scoring record at anything about league 2 and that was hardly earth shattering 12 goals in 40 games I seem to recall and had just come back from a serious injury. Certainly not the type of player I had expected us to be signing if we were serious about going straight back up.

Don't think we will miss him, but what another waste of money. Unless of course that winner against Luton is the difference at the end of the season!

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Thu Sep 26, 2019 4:53 pm

Complete waste of money, pointless signing, Bogle is way better than him.

Re: ' BAD NEWS FOR CARDIFF CITY STRIKER '

Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:14 pm

Why sign a player that is known to have repeated problems ,don't make sense .

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Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:56 pm

ion wrote:Why sign a player that is known to have repeated problems ,don't make sense .

Is this the same player who was praised to the hilt when he won City a very late 3 points on his debut? ;) :lol:

Short memories indeed; but I forget any given player is only as good as his last shot/pass/save for many! :roll:

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Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:07 pm

Sven wrote:
ion wrote:Why sign a player that is known to have repeated problems ,don't make sense .

Is this the same player who was praised to the hilt when he won City a very late 3 points on his debut? ;) :lol:

Short memories indeed; but I forget any given player is only as good as his last shot/pass/save for many! :roll:


He was praised to the hilt.

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Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:12 pm

maccydee wrote:
Sven wrote:
ion wrote:Why sign a player that is known to have repeated problems ,don't make sense .

Is this the same player who was praised to the hilt when he won City a very late 3 points on his debut? ;) :lol:

Short memories indeed; but I forget any given player is only as good as his last shot/pass/save for many! :roll:


He was praised to the hilt.



Not by me.

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Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:27 pm

Forever Blue wrote:I have to say our injuries during training is abysmal.

Plus the amount of players we have paid £millions for that never play is beyond.



And we are the only team to do this? There are no guarantees no matter who you sign. You post as if it only happens at our club. Its a gamble signing any player. Pack hadn't missed a game injured for 5 seasons yet went off after less than one and a half games for us. For £20k a week you'd expect players to be indestructible (never mind the stupid Premier League wages of 20 times that) but they aren't. I bet there isn't a single top half Championship club who hasn't got a players that they have paid millions for and is permanently injured (according to the fans).

Re: ' BAD NEWS FOR CARDIFF CITY STRIKER '

Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:51 pm

The fact he is injured isn't the issue; he wasn't going to feature anyway.

We can forgive the transfer committee for not noting his injury record. He would no doubt be £10 million plus if he was both fit and able to put the ball in the net. At £3 million he is a comparative bargain as a back up striker for us. Financially blessed as we are

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Thu Sep 26, 2019 10:51 pm

maccydee wrote:
Sven wrote:
ion wrote:Why sign a player that is known to have repeated problems ,don't make sense .

Is this the same player who was praised to the hilt when he won City a very late 3 points on his debut? ;) :lol:

Short memories indeed; but I forget any given player is only as good as his last shot/pass/save for many! :roll:


He was praised to the hilt.

Neil, indeed he was; but (as you know) the Goldfish have since swum around the bowl! :lol: :ayatollah:

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Fri Sep 27, 2019 6:18 am

My friend is a season ticket holder at Birmingham who laughed when we signed him as he reckoned we would be lucky to get 10 games out of him due to injuries !

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Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:20 am

maccydee wrote:
Sven wrote:
ion wrote:Why sign a player that is known to have repeated problems ,don't make sense .

Is this the same player who was praised to the hilt when he won City a very late 3 points on his debut? ;) :lol:

Short memories indeed; but I forget any given player is only as good as his last shot/pass/save for many! :roll:


He was praised to the hilt.


Yes he got a goal, I think anyone, especially a striker who gets a goal will get a reasonable amont of praise especially after a last minute winner.

But I'm not sure how anyone can judge a player or even praise someone to the hilt after coming on at 91 minutes of a game. Yes he made an impact but I don't think any reasonable person would judge him 'as a player' on a cameo of 8 minutes.

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Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:19 pm

bluebird58 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:I have to say our injuries during training is abysmal.

Plus the amount of players we have paid £millions for that never play is beyond.



And we are the only team to do this? There are no guarantees no matter who you sign. You post as if it only happens at our club. Its a gamble signing any player. Pack hadn't missed a game injured for 5 seasons yet went off after less than one and a half games for us. For £20k a week you'd expect players to be indestructible (never mind the stupid Premier League wages of 20 times that) but they aren't. I bet there isn't a single top half Championship club who hasn't got a players that they have paid millions for and is permanently injured (according to the fans).


If we signed Long John Silver and it turned out he was no good someone would come on here and say loads of clubs sign one legged players who don't turn out to be any good and look at Madine he has two legs and hasn't scored yet.

Re: BAD NEWS FOR CARDIFF CITY STRIKER

Fri Sep 27, 2019 1:24 pm

bluebird58 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:I have to say our injuries during training is abysmal.

Plus the amount of players we have paid £millions for that never play is beyond.



And we are the only team to do this? There are no guarantees no matter who you sign. You post as if it only happens at our club. Its a gamble signing any player. Pack hadn't missed a game injured for 5 seasons yet went off after less than one and a half games for us. For £20k a week you'd expect players to be indestructible (never mind the stupid Premier League wages of 20 times that) but they aren't. I bet there isn't a single top half Championship club who hasn't got a players that they have paid millions for and is permanently injured (according to the fans).


If we signed Long John Silver and it turned out he was no good someone would come on here and say loads of clubs sign one legged players who don't turn out to be any good and look at Madine he has two legs and hasn't scored yet.

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Fri Sep 27, 2019 2:40 pm

Vassel, Madine, Tomlin is culmulatively an awful lot of striker, transfer fee and wages to be second, third or fourth choice behind the big German and the ever largening Scot. In a system playing playing one striker and as many wide men Sir Neil can get on pitch and bench. And thats without Bogle and Ward though Wards games are as injury effected as Jazz and Vassells in recent seasons.

Re: ' BAD NEWS FOR CARDIFF CITY STRIKER '

Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:18 pm

Isawgarystevensscoreagoal wrote:Vassel, Madine, Tomlin is culmulatively an awful lot of striker, transfer fee and wages to be second, third or fourth choice behind the big German and the ever largening Scot. In a system playing playing one striker and as many wide men Sir Neil can get on pitch and bench. And thats without Bogle and Ward though Wards games are as injury effected as Jazz and Vassells in recent seasons.


As Neil has aluded to (another topic) he was injured playing for the u 23's,not in traning,and it was 2.5m for Vassell, hardly big money ffs,maybe 10 yrs ago,but in the championship of today,it's a pittance really. :old: :bluebird: