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Forever Blue wrote:My View:
If your an avid football fan everyone knows nowadays you can’t go in the Home ends with an Away shirt on and you know you will Be ejected and even could be verbally abused or attacked.
Lucky it all pasted peaceful and WBA were right in what they did.
Cardiff City fan 'disgusted' after he was ejected from West Brom stadium for wearing a Bluebirds shirt
The Bluebirds supporter had the ticket from his wife as an anniversary present
Tuesday 8th October 2019
By Glen Williams
Michelle and Martin Monnes-Thomas at The Hawthorns
The Bluebirds supporter had the ticket from his wife as an anniversary present
A 'disgusted' Cardiff City supporter had his seven-year anniversary present ruined when he was ejected from West Bromwich Albion's ground for wearing a Bluebirds shirt.
Martin Monnes-Thomas said he felt like he was 'treated like a criminal' when three police officers and four stewards escorted him and his wife Michelle out of The Hawthorns within five minutes of the game between Cardiff and West Brom starting.
The Bluebirds fan lives in Bridgend with his wife, who was born and raised in West Brom and is a Baggies supporter, and the pair thought last Saturday's fixture represented a perfect opportunity to celebrate their seven years of marriage.
It started off a normal, in fact a rather enjoyable, day. The couple parked their car a few train stations away from The Hawthorns and soaked up the atmosphere ahead of the match.
Mr Monnes-Thomas, an IT manager, and his wife, a solicitor, both 36, enjoyed some good-natured ribbing with a section of home fans, with one dad even asking if he was the next 'Gareth Bale in the making'.
And it was that sort of afternoon they had looked forward to, but Martin quickly realised something was untoward once the referee's whistle had blown.
One steward wandered over to their seats, then another and then a third.
Mr Monnes-Thomas recalls the conversation he had with the last marshal to sit next to him: "'Is that a Cardiff City shirt,' he said. So I said, 'Yes, I'm born down that way, it's nice to be able to wear it with my wife here too.'
"So he checked it again and said, 'Right then, we are ejecting you from the stadium.'
"I said, 'Sorry, say that again?'
"He said, 'Your Cardiff City shirt, we're kicking you out of the ground, you're banned.'"
Mr Monnes-Thomas said he offered to change his shirt, wear his coat over the top and was even willing to be relocated to a different section of the ground - they were in the family stand - but club officials said his face would still be recognised.
The couple were celebrating their seventh wedding anniversary
"I looked up and there were three police at the end of the aisle and four marshals huddled round me when I stood up to escort me," he adds.
"And it wasn't just escorting me to the edge of the stand, but right out of the ground, out of the gate.
"They surrounded me with my wife following behind wondering what I had done. We weren't raising our voices, we were just in shock."
The Bluebirds supporter was quick to insist he isn't the usual type to kick up a fuss at these events. "I'm not a hooligan by any means," he says, "I'm tepid at best!"
But it's easy to see the pair were certainly shook up by the whole ordeal and, moreover, Mr Monnes-Thomas feels disappointed by the way the whole situation was handled.
In fact, he says he was appalled by the treatment.
"It was a really good day up until that point, until a guy twice the size of me turned up in an orange jacket told me to leave," he adds.
"I was thinking I'd seen this on Crimewatch or something, like I'd done something really nasty. I thought it was absolutely unbelievable.
"To be treated like a criminal was absolutely disgusting."
Mr Monnes-Thomas has voiced his complaints to West Brom, who say that his choice to wear a Cardiff City shirt while sitting in the home areas was 'not ideal' and had 'the potential to be inflammatory'.
It adds that the actions of the stewards were 'completely appropriate in the circumstances' and states Mr Monnes-Thomas will not be remunerated for his match ticket or travel costs.
He is pushing ahead in hope of obtaining a refund, having seen less than five minutes of the Bluebirds' 4-2 defeat by West Brom in a six-goal thriller.
But the humiliation, as Mr Monnes-Thomas puts it, lingered long into the night and ultimately ruined the weekend.
"My wife felt sick in her stomach," he adds. "She couldn't sit down. We went to eat a Chinese takeaway and she couldn't eat it.
"It spoilt the weekend at the in-laws.
"We sat there feeling the anger of it all, conned out of £40, and to be treated like criminals and pushed away, I felt used."
In a statement West Brom said: "We are aware of a number of ejections from home areas of Cardiff City supporters who were wearing Cardiff football kits.
"Ground regulations say the ticket purchases are for home fans only in home areas.
"Saturday was a fixture which posed its own particular challenges, it was a full house and visibility of away supporters in home areas of the ground is something we had to take action about."
When asked specifically about the situation regarding Mr Monnes-Thomas, West Brom declined to comment.
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Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:35 am
thomasblue wrote:This is the one part of football that really let's it down.
They should absolutely be allowed to sit where they want to watch a game. It is the dickheads who attack them who should be kicked out and banned not 2 people quietly using a present.
In football is the only sport in the world with segregation amongst fans and its pathetic. We could learn a lot from the way rugby police events.
The sooner the hooligans and trouble makers are weeded out and banned the better
Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:35 am
Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:37 am
Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:59 am
thomasblue wrote:This is the one part of football that really let's it down.
They should absolutely be allowed to sit where they want to watch a game. It is the dickheads who attack them who should be kicked out and banned not 2 people quietly using a present.
In football is the only sport in the world with segregation amongst fans and its pathetic. We could learn a lot from the way rugby police events.
The sooner the hooligans and trouble makers are weeded out and banned the better
Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:14 pm
Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:28 pm
Tue Oct 08, 2019 12:45 pm
nubbsy wrote:thomasblue wrote:This is the one part of football that really let's it down.
They should absolutely be allowed to sit where they want to watch a game. It is the dickheads who attack them who should be kicked out and banned not 2 people quietly using a present.
In football is the only sport in the world with segregation amongst fans and its pathetic. We could learn a lot from the way rugby police events.
The sooner the hooligans and trouble makers are weeded out and banned the better
You dont half chat some shit mate fair play. As if football atmospheres aren't already dying a slow and painful death you want them to follow suit with rugby?
I agree on the hooligan element but do you really wana be sat next to a swansea or bristol fan shaking a happy clapper? Get a grip.
Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:17 pm
Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:24 pm
thomasblue wrote:nubbsy wrote:thomasblue wrote:This is the one part of football that really let's it down.
They should absolutely be allowed to sit where they want to watch a game. It is the dickheads who attack them who should be kicked out and banned not 2 people quietly using a present.
In football is the only sport in the world with segregation amongst fans and its pathetic. We could learn a lot from the way rugby police events.
The sooner the hooligans and trouble makers are weeded out and banned the better
You dont half chat some shit mate fair play. As if football atmospheres aren't already dying a slow and painful death you want them to follow suit with rugby?
I agree on the hooligan element but do you really wana be sat next to a swansea or bristol fan shaking a happy clapper? Get a grip.
Not really but I wouldnt attack them for supporting another team if they are just sat enjoying it
Its pathetic and anyone who thinks differently need to grow up. Football is not only for loud men who want to sing shout and swear, it's also for children and in this case couples who want to enjoy a day out.
Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:35 pm
ElyBoy1984 wrote:thomasblue wrote:nubbsy wrote:thomasblue wrote:This is the one part of football that really let's it down.
They should absolutely be allowed to sit where they want to watch a game. It is the dickheads who attack them who should be kicked out and banned not 2 people quietly using a present.
In football is the only sport in the world with segregation amongst fans and its pathetic. We could learn a lot from the way rugby police events.
The sooner the hooligans and trouble makers are weeded out and banned the better
You dont half chat some shit mate fair play. As if football atmospheres aren't already dying a slow and painful death you want them to follow suit with rugby?
I agree on the hooligan element but do you really wana be sat next to a swansea or bristol fan shaking a happy clapper? Get a grip.
Not really but I wouldnt attack them for supporting another team if they are just sat enjoying it
Its pathetic and anyone who thinks differently need to grow up. Football is not only for loud men who want to sing shout and swear, it's also for children and in this case couples who want to enjoy a day out.
You been listening to the BBC for too long.
Football is largely about men who want to shout and swear. Long may it continue.
Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:49 pm
thomasblue wrote:nubbsy wrote:thomasblue wrote:This is the one part of football that really let's it down.
They should absolutely be allowed to sit where they want to watch a game. It is the dickheads who attack them who should be kicked out and banned not 2 people quietly using a present.
In football is the only sport in the world with segregation amongst fans and its pathetic. We could learn a lot from the way rugby police events.
The sooner the hooligans and trouble makers are weeded out and banned the better
You dont half chat some shit mate fair play. As if football atmospheres aren't already dying a slow and painful death you want them to follow suit with rugby?
I agree on the hooligan element but do you really wana be sat next to a swansea or bristol fan shaking a happy clapper? Get a grip.
Not really but I wouldnt attack them for supporting another team if they are just sat enjoying it
Its pathetic and anyone who thinks differently need to grow up. Football is not only for loud men who want to sing shout and swear, it's also for children and in this case couples who want to enjoy a day out.
Tue Oct 08, 2019 1:50 pm
thomasblue wrote:nubbsy wrote:thomasblue wrote:This is the one part of football that really let's it down.
They should absolutely be allowed to sit where they want to watch a game. It is the dickheads who attack them who should be kicked out and banned not 2 people quietly using a present.
In football is the only sport in the world with segregation amongst fans and its pathetic. We could learn a lot from the way rugby police events.
The sooner the hooligans and trouble makers are weeded out and banned the better
You dont half chat some shit mate fair play. As if football atmospheres aren't already dying a slow and painful death you want them to follow suit with rugby?
I agree on the hooligan element but do you really wana be sat next to a swansea or bristol fan shaking a happy clapper? Get a grip.
Not really but I wouldnt attack them for supporting another team if they are just sat enjoying it
Its pathetic and anyone who thinks differently need to grow up. Football is not only for loud men who want to sing shout and swear, it's also for children and in this case couples who want to enjoy a day out.
Tue Oct 08, 2019 2:33 pm
Pulisnewport wrote:A Solicitor and an IT manager!
Sums it all up for me, not in the real world either of them.
Next thing they’ll be off to Iran on a holiday with the kids.
Tue Oct 08, 2019 2:37 pm
nubbsy wrote:thomasblue wrote:nubbsy wrote:thomasblue wrote:This is the one part of football that really let's it down.
They should absolutely be allowed to sit where they want to watch a game. It is the dickheads who attack them who should be kicked out and banned not 2 people quietly using a present.
In football is the only sport in the world with segregation amongst fans and its pathetic. We could learn a lot from the way rugby police events.
The sooner the hooligans and trouble makers are weeded out and banned the better
You dont half chat some shit mate fair play. As if football atmospheres aren't already dying a slow and painful death you want them to follow suit with rugby?
I agree on the hooligan element but do you really wana be sat next to a swansea or bristol fan shaking a happy clapper? Get a grip.
Not really but I wouldnt attack them for supporting another team if they are just sat enjoying it
Its pathetic and anyone who thinks differently need to grow up. Football is not only for loud men who want to sing shout and swear, it's also for children and in this case couples who want to enjoy a day out.
I'm not suggestion people should be 'attacked'. I'm saying your point to get rid of segregation like the rugby would kill football for many.
Tue Oct 08, 2019 3:29 pm
Tue Oct 08, 2019 3:56 pm
nubbsy wrote:thomasblue wrote:nubbsy wrote:thomasblue wrote:This is the one part of football that really let's it down.
They should absolutely be allowed to sit where they want to watch a game. It is the dickheads who attack them who should be kicked out and banned not 2 people quietly using a present.
In football is the only sport in the world with segregation amongst fans and its pathetic. We could learn a lot from the way rugby police events.
The sooner the hooligans and trouble makers are weeded out and banned the better
You dont half chat some shit mate fair play. As if football atmospheres aren't already dying a slow and painful death you want them to follow suit with rugby?
I agree on the hooligan element but do you really wana be sat next to a swansea or bristol fan shaking a happy clapper? Get a grip.
Not really but I wouldnt attack them for supporting another team if they are just sat enjoying it
Its pathetic and anyone who thinks differently need to grow up. Football is not only for loud men who want to sing shout and swear, it's also for children and in this case couples who want to enjoy a day out.
I'm not suggestion people should be 'attacked'. I'm saying your point to get rid of segregation like the rugby would kill football for many.
Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:01 pm
thomasblue wrote:nubbsy wrote:thomasblue wrote:nubbsy wrote:thomasblue wrote:This is the one part of football that really let's it down.
They should absolutely be allowed to sit where they want to watch a game. It is the dickheads who attack them who should be kicked out and banned not 2 people quietly using a present.
In football is the only sport in the world with segregation amongst fans and its pathetic. We could learn a lot from the way rugby police events.
The sooner the hooligans and trouble makers are weeded out and banned the better
You dont half chat some shit mate fair play. As if football atmospheres aren't already dying a slow and painful death you want them to follow suit with rugby?
I agree on the hooligan element but do you really wana be sat next to a swansea or bristol fan shaking a happy clapper? Get a grip.
Not really but I wouldnt attack them for supporting another team if they are just sat enjoying it
Its pathetic and anyone who thinks differently need to grow up. Football is not only for loud men who want to sing shout and swear, it's also for children and in this case couples who want to enjoy a day out.
I'm not suggestion people should be 'attacked'. I'm saying your point to get rid of segregation like the rugby would kill football for many.
I never said get rid of segregation, I said its pathetic that a person with no interest in causing or being in trouble cant gonand watch a football game because some dickhead cant behave or control there beer. Like I said the thugs throwing punches at normal football fans should be banned not the person who wants to watch a game.
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