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Re: UPDATED: " Brexit deal NOT to be agreed tonight "

Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:51 pm

Josh

What evidence have you got for that outlandish claim?

Or is this another ‘I’ll speak my mind whatever comes out’ moment?

Re: " Brexit deal NOT to be agreed tonight "

Fri Oct 18, 2019 2:44 pm

CCFCJosh75 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Very true what this sorry saga as shown is few politicians are trust worthy ! If this doesn't get passed how is another deal going to pass? Every MP and his dog have their own agenda so wont agree to any deal unless it favours themselves? And if give this deal to the people to vote on great idea but what if they say no?
and the remainers will want remain on ballot paper which means it's a new referendum without going through parliament is that democratic considering all the crap gone on about parliament having the right to decide?

Why are you so against the fact that people may have changed their minds? Have you never changed your mind on anything?
How is letting people have the choice to change their mind after all the new info has come out and a solid option given now undemocratic?



Change their mind yes but we had a referendum that was democratically organised with a bill in parliament! What remain MPs are wanting is a confirmation vote on a deal? ( Deal or no deal) No problem with that but same people are wanting remain on ballot paper as well? That is a new referendum by any standards I havent seen a bill go parliament to call for 2nd referendum have you? Besides we have not left so how do we have a referendum on something that as not happened and how can we change mind for same reason? If these MPs had any principles they would come out and say lets have another referendum but they using sly backdoor route of a peoples vote...... :roll:

Re: UPDATED: " Brexit deal NOT to be agreed tonight "

Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:35 pm

The reds run by the Marxist and the wets run by that ridiculous woman and the nationalists should vote for what’s best for the country as a whole. They should be held to account if the magician’s deal is voted down tomorrow.

Whatever the outcome come the impending election only one result is feasible; a decent Tory majority.

The countries voters aren’t all stupid. They’ll see through the said renegades and kick them out of parliament.

Re: UPDATED: " Brexit deal NOT to be agreed tonight "

Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:39 pm

Getting fcking rediculas now mp letwin is now going to ask bercow to table an amendment after the debate? if he succeeds the vote wont happen until after there is separate legislation to implement terms of the deal.... :banghead:

Re: UPDATED: " Brexit deal NOT to be agreed tonight "

Fri Oct 18, 2019 8:46 pm

Still A Mess !!! :roll:

Re: UPDATED: " Brexit deal NOT to be agreed tonight "

Sat Oct 19, 2019 2:06 pm

Letwin should be put in tower of London and left to rot! Hes a joke of an mp and should be deselected..... hes wasted parliament time and delayed Brexit vote for what? to have MPs debate and pass legislation to allow the vote to be officially approved if it was passed.... :banghead:

Re: UPDATED: " Brexit deal NOT to be agreed tonight "

Sat Oct 19, 2019 2:12 pm

pembroke allan wrote:Letwin should be put in tower of London and left to rot! Hes a joke of an mp and should be deselected..... hes wasted parliament time and delayed Brexit vote for what? to have MPs debate and pass legislation to allow the vote to be officially approved if it was passed.... :banghead:




I'm pretty sure he's standing down anyway. We need an election.

Re: UPDATED: " Brexit deal NOT to be agreed tonight "

Sat Oct 19, 2019 2:19 pm

epping blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Letwin should be put in tower of London and left to rot! Hes a joke of an mp and should be deselected..... hes wasted parliament time and delayed Brexit vote for what? to have MPs debate and pass legislation to allow the vote to be officially approved if it was passed.... :banghead:




I'm pretty sure he's standing down anyway. We need an election.



We do but the cowards that are the opposition wont t have one ! The idea of this bill letwin produced is when comes time to put bill before parliament any tom dick and arry can put amendments to it like previously with May's deal... this is same as when Ireland voted out the politicians didn't like it and delayed out so long they had 2 more votes until got right answer ! This looks a similar ploy MPs should be totally ashamed of themselves.. :roll:

Re: UPDATED: " Brexit deal NOT to be agreed tonight "

Sat Oct 19, 2019 2:49 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
epping blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Letwin should be put in tower of London and left to rot! Hes a joke of an mp and should be deselected..... hes wasted parliament time and delayed Brexit vote for what? to have MPs debate and pass legislation to allow the vote to be officially approved if it was passed.... :banghead:




I'm pretty sure he's standing down anyway. We need an election.



We do but the cowards that are the opposition wont t have one ! The idea of this bill letwin produced is when comes time to put bill before parliament any tom dick and arry can put amendments to it like previously with May's deal... this is same as when Ireland voted out the politicians didn't like it and delayed out so long they had 2 more votes until got right answer ! This looks a similar ploy MPs should be totally ashamed of themselves.. :roll:



I think he should of gone through with the vote though. He'd be in a much better position if he'd got a victory in that and it was a fair possibility.

Re: UPDATED: " Brexit deal NOT to be agreed tonight "

Sat Oct 19, 2019 4:26 pm

epping blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
epping blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Letwin should be put in tower of London and left to rot! Hes a joke of an mp and should be deselected..... hes wasted parliament time and delayed Brexit vote for what? to have MPs debate and pass legislation to allow the vote to be officially approved if it was passed.... :banghead:




I'm pretty sure he's standing down anyway. We need an election.



We do but the cowards that are the opposition wont t have one ! The idea of this bill letwin produced is when comes time to put bill before parliament any tom dick and arry can put amendments to it like previously with May's deal... this is same as when Ireland voted out the politicians didn't like it and delayed out so long they had 2 more votes until got right answer ! This looks a similar ploy MPs should be totally ashamed of themselves.. :roll:



I think he should of gone through with the vote though. He'd be in a much better position if he'd got a victory in that and it was a fair possibility.



It was meaningless though and he as got other options he can use? But how can one man stop Brexit if MPs did agree on the deal? Its all wrong and bercow should have stopped it for the good of our parliament but as we know he will do anything to prevent Brexit ? The mps we've got at moment are selfish parasites who only look after themselves and there precious expenses and not their constituents or British democracy.. :old:

Re: UPDATED: " Brexit deal NOT to be agreed tonight "

Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:45 pm

Danny Says wrote:The reds run by the Marxist and the wets run by that ridiculous woman and the nationalists should vote for what’s best for the country as a whole. They should be held to account if the magician’s deal is voted down tomorrow.

Whatever the outcome come the impending election only one result is feasible; a decent Tory majority.

The countries voters aren’t all stupid. They’ll see through the said renegades and kick them out of parliament.



that's what should happen ...but many of the MPs currently voting time and again to derail Brexit were elected with big majorities in leave constituencies AFTER the referendum..
many treat politics like football where a club / party is for life plus there is a real chance that many will just not vote thinking....is there any point ?
so many people are just fed up and disillusioned by the whole thing.