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Re: FAO wez : Sala to Cardiff contract clauses

Sun Feb 02, 2020 8:25 pm

Whatever the details of the contract, and if legally he was our player, he still died that night and someone is responsible. Rarely is something like this an accident, blame is apportioned somewhere. SO if he was Cardiff's player the club has lost an asset worth £15m and surely have the right to try and find out if someone is responsible in law for the loss of their asset?

Re: FAO wez : Sala to Cardiff contract clauses

Sun Feb 02, 2020 8:27 pm

valleymodeller wrote:Whatever the details of the contract, and if legally he was our player, he still died that night and someone is responsible. Rarely is something like this an accident, blame is apportioned somewhere. SO if he was Cardiff's player the club has lost an asset worth £15m and surely have the right to try and find out if someone is responsible in law for the loss of their asset?


Indeed they do, but they still have to pay for him.

If they want to then sue whoever they feel is liable for that loss, then they can do so.

FIFA will be imposing the sanctions if its true what Dalman says and the club doesn’t have the money to pay.

Re: FAO wez : Sala to Cardiff contract clauses

Sun Feb 02, 2020 8:40 pm

OrlandoBloo wrote:
valleymodeller wrote:Whatever the details of the contract, and if legally he was our player, he still died that night and someone is responsible. Rarely is something like this an accident, blame is apportioned somewhere. SO if he was Cardiff's player the club has lost an asset worth £15m and surely have the right to try and find out if someone is responsible in law for the loss of their asset?


Indeed they do, but they still have to pay for him.

If they want to then sue whoever they feel is liable for that loss, then they can do so.

FIFA will be imposing the sanctions if its true what Dalman says and the club doesn’t have the money to pay.

Zzzzzz

Re: FAO wez : Sala to Cardiff contract clauses

Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:48 pm

OrlandoBloo wrote:
wez1927 wrote:How many accounts had this weirdo got ffs what a psychopath


How many times can this question be answered?

One active account at a time. :occasion5:

:sleepy2: :sleepy2: :sleepy2: :sleepy2: :sleepy2: :sleepy2: :sleepy2: :sleepy2: :sleepy2: :sleepy2: :sleepy2:

Re: FAO wez : Sala to Cardiff contract clauses

Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:08 pm

Nantes were directly responsible for the rejection by the PL of ES playing contract as they had failed to confirm the name of the agent involved in the transfer of the player when uploading the relevant information in TMS.

Therefore the employment contract concluded with the player on 18 January 2019 and uploaded in TMS on 19 January 2019 was considered invalid by the Premier League and as a result the player could not be registered with the club.

This is important because Nantes insisted on a sale to a 'Premier League' club and were due 'bonuses' if Cardiff City had stayed up.

(i) EUR 1,000,000 if Cardiff “participate and retains its Premier League Status
following the close of the football season 2018/2019”;
(ii) EUR 500,000 if Cardiff “participate and retains its Premier League Status following
the close of the football season 2019/2020” and
(iii) EUR 500,000 if Cardiff “participate and retains the close of the football season 2020/2021”.

The above would constitute an 'expressed' clause under UK contract law. This is why the PL contract is so important as the transfer contract between Cardiff and Nantes could-not be deemed as completed until ES had been accepted as being able to play in the Premier League.

Re: FAO wez : Sala to Cardiff contract clauses

Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:12 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:Nantes were directly responsible for the rejection by the PL of ES playing contract as they had failed to confirm the name of the agent involved in the transfer of the player when uploading the relevant information in TMS.

Therefore the employment contract concluded with the player on 18 January 2019 and uploaded in TMS on 19 January 2019 was considered invalid by the Premier League and as a result the player could not be registered with the club.

This is important because Nantes insisted on a sale to a 'Premier League' club and were due 'bonuses' if Cardiff City had stayed up.

(i) EUR 1,000,000 if Cardiff “participate and retains its Premier League Status
following the close of the football season 2018/2019”;
(ii) EUR 500,000 if Cardiff “participate and retains its Premier League Status following
the close of the football season 2019/2020” and
(iii) EUR 500,000 if Cardiff “participate and retains the close of the football season 2020/2021”.

The above would constitute an 'expressed' clause under UK contract law. This is why the PL contract is so important as the transfer contract between Cardiff and Nantes could-not be deemed as completed until ES had been accepted as being able to play in the Premier League.


That’s not true. TMS was completed fully at 17:30 UK time on the 21st Jan.

Cardiff were a Premier League club and Sala’s registration was sold to that club. The clauses relate to club performance in the Premier League, not the players performance in the Premier League.

If it was player clauses there *may* have more of a case. As it stands FIFA correctly state that being unable to register to play in the Premier League has no impact on the validity of the deal or the employment contract.

This is why they lost and this is why they simply cannot win any appeal.

Re: FAO wez : Sala to Cardiff contract clauses

Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:18 pm

Hello sad infant, how are the meds going?

Re: FAO wez : Sala to Cardiff contract clauses

Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:19 pm

To give context, this is covered in the document where FIFA state that failure to be able to register him with the PL (which is irrelevant anyway) was due to an omission by Cardiff, not Nantes.


41. In this respect, the members of the Bureau firstly observed that the clause at stake did not require the player’s employment contract to be registered with the Premier League as a condition precedent. What it is more, the Bureau held that it was clear that it was always the intention of Cardiff to register the player with the Premier League and that the only reason why the contract was not approved was an omission of Cardiff itself.

Re: FAO wez : Sala to Cardiff contract clauses

Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:51 pm

luca wrote:To give context, this is covered in the document where FIFA state that failure to be able to register him with the PL (which is irrelevant anyway) was due to an omission by Cardiff, not Nantes.


41. In this respect, the members of the Bureau firstly observed that the clause at stake did not require the player’s employment contract to be registered with the Premier League as a condition precedent. What it is more, the Bureau held that it was clear that it was always the intention of Cardiff to register the player with the Premier League and that the only reason why the contract was not approved was an omission of Cardiff itself.


Bore off

Re: FAO wez : Sala to Cardiff contract clauses

Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:00 pm

Zzzzzzzz zzzzzzzz yawn yawm yawn

Re: FAO wez : Sala to Cardiff contract clauses

Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:53 pm

goats wrote:
luca wrote:To give context, this is covered in the document where FIFA state that failure to be able to register him with the PL (which is irrelevant anyway) was due to an omission by Cardiff, not Nantes.


41. In this respect, the members of the Bureau firstly observed that the clause at stake did not require the player’s employment contract to be registered with the Premier League as a condition precedent. What it is more, the Bureau held that it was clear that it was always the intention of Cardiff to register the player with the Premier League and that the only reason why the contract was not approved was an omission of Cardiff itself.


Bore off


Get back to the fantasy lab, you are overdue another tale aren’t you? :laughing6:

Re: FAO wez : Sala to Cardiff contract clauses

Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:06 pm

luca wrote:
goats wrote:
luca wrote:To give context, this is covered in the document where FIFA state that failure to be able to register him with the PL (which is irrelevant anyway) was due to an omission by Cardiff, not Nantes.


41. In this respect, the members of the Bureau firstly observed that the clause at stake did not require the player’s employment contract to be registered with the Premier League as a condition precedent. What it is more, the Bureau held that it was clear that it was always the intention of Cardiff to register the player with the Premier League and that the only reason why the contract was not approved was an omission of Cardiff itself.


Bore off


Get back to the fantasy lab, you are overdue another tale aren’t you? :laughing6:

Another name what a psychopath

Re: FAO wez : Sala to Cardiff contract clauses

Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:13 pm

wez1927 wrote:
luca wrote:
goats wrote:
luca wrote:To give context, this is covered in the document where FIFA state that failure to be able to register him with the PL (which is irrelevant anyway) was due to an omission by Cardiff, not Nantes.


41. In this respect, the members of the Bureau firstly observed that the clause at stake did not require the player’s employment contract to be registered with the Premier League as a condition precedent. What it is more, the Bureau held that it was clear that it was always the intention of Cardiff to register the player with the Premier League and that the only reason why the contract was not approved was an omission of Cardiff itself.


Bore off


Get back to the fantasy lab, you are overdue another tale aren’t you? :laughing6:

Another name what a psychopath


Yes, I can see it now. Hitchcock with his new Psycho movie:-

“The Man Who Creates a New Username on a Football Forum When His Old One Doesn’t Work”.

Coming to cinemas near you, 18 rated due to its shocking nature.

Has all the hallmarks of an excellent thriller :laughing6:

Re: FAO wez : Sala to Cardiff contract clauses

Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:21 pm

luca wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
luca wrote:
goats wrote:
luca wrote:To give context, this is covered in the document where FIFA state that failure to be able to register him with the PL (which is irrelevant anyway) was due to an omission by Cardiff, not Nantes.


41. In this respect, the members of the Bureau firstly observed that the clause at stake did not require the player’s employment contract to be registered with the Premier League as a condition precedent. What it is more, the Bureau held that it was clear that it was always the intention of Cardiff to register the player with the Premier League and that the only reason why the contract was not approved was an omission of Cardiff itself.


Bore off


Get back to the fantasy lab, you are overdue another tale aren’t you? :laughing6:

Another name what a psychopath


Yes, I can see it now. Hitchcock with his new Psycho movie:-

“The Man Who Creates a New Username on a Football Forum When His Old One Doesn’t Work”.

Coming to cinemas near you, 18 rated due to its shocking nature.

Has all the hallmarks of an excellent thriller :laughing6:

Get a life weirdo

Re: FAO wez : Sala to Cardiff contract clauses

Mon Feb 03, 2020 2:25 pm

:lol: wez

Re: FAO wez : Sala to Cardiff contract clauses

Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:03 pm

luca wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
luca wrote:
goats wrote:
luca wrote:To give context, this is covered in the document where FIFA state that failure to be able to register him with the PL (which is irrelevant anyway) was due to an omission by Cardiff, not Nantes.


41. In this respect, the members of the Bureau firstly observed that the clause at stake did not require the player’s employment contract to be registered with the Premier League as a condition precedent. What it is more, the Bureau held that it was clear that it was always the intention of Cardiff to register the player with the Premier League and that the only reason why the contract was not approved was an omission of Cardiff itself.


Bore off


Get back to the fantasy lab, you are overdue another tale aren’t you? :laughing6:

Another name what a psychopath


Yes, I can see it now. Hitchcock with his new Psycho movie:-

“The Man Who Creates a 1000 New Username on a Football Forum Where no one gives a shit about him and would probably celebrate if he dropped dead tomorrow”

Coming to cinemas near you, 18 rated due to its shocking nature.

Has all the hallmarks of an excellent thriller :laughing6:


A 1000 times you lonely freak show

Re: FAO wez : Sala to Cardiff contract clauses

Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:56 pm

goats wrote:
luca wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
luca wrote:
goats wrote:
luca wrote:To give context, this is covered in the document where FIFA state that failure to be able to register him with the PL (which is irrelevant anyway) was due to an omission by Cardiff, not Nantes.


41. In this respect, the members of the Bureau firstly observed that the clause at stake did not require the player’s employment contract to be registered with the Premier League as a condition precedent. What it is more, the Bureau held that it was clear that it was always the intention of Cardiff to register the player with the Premier League and that the only reason why the contract was not approved was an omission of Cardiff itself.


Bore off


Get back to the fantasy lab, you are overdue another tale aren’t you? :laughing6:

Another name what a psychopath


Yes, I can see it now. Hitchcock with his new Psycho movie:-

“The Man Who Creates a 1000 New Username on a Football Forum Where no one gives a shit about him and would probably celebrate if he dropped dead tomorrow”

Coming to cinemas near you, 18 rated due to its shocking nature.

Has all the hallmarks of an excellent thriller :laughing6:


A 1000 times you lonely freak show


:laughing6: Goats is seething

Re: FAO wez : Sala to Cardiff contract clauses

Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:06 pm

luca wrote:
goats wrote:
luca wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
luca wrote:
goats wrote:
luca wrote:To give context, this is covered in the document where FIFA state that failure to be able to register him with the PL (which is irrelevant anyway) was due to an omission by Cardiff, not Nantes.


41. In this respect, the members of the Bureau firstly observed that the clause at stake did not require the player’s employment contract to be registered with the Premier League as a condition precedent. What it is more, the Bureau held that it was clear that it was always the intention of Cardiff to register the player with the Premier League and that the only reason why the contract was not approved was an omission of Cardiff itself.


Bore off


Get back to the fantasy lab, you are overdue another tale aren’t you? :laughing6:

Another name what a psychopath


Yes, I can see it now. Hitchcock with his new Psycho movie:-

“The Man Who Creates a 1000 New Username on a Football Forum Where no one gives a shit about him and would probably celebrate if he dropped dead tomorrow”

Coming to cinemas near you, 18 rated due to its shocking nature.

Has all the hallmarks of an excellent thriller :laughing6:


A 1000 times you lonely freak show


:laughing6: Goats is seething

You still here ? Zzzzz

Re: FAO wez : Sala to Cardiff contract clauses

Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:46 pm

luca wrote:
goats wrote:
luca wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
luca wrote:
goats wrote:
luca wrote:To give context, this is covered in the document where FIFA state that failure to be able to register him with the PL (which is irrelevant anyway) was due to an omission by Cardiff, not Nantes.


41. In this respect, the members of the Bureau firstly observed that the clause at stake did not require the player’s employment contract to be registered with the Premier League as a condition precedent. What it is more, the Bureau held that it was clear that it was always the intention of Cardiff to register the player with the Premier League and that the only reason why the contract was not approved was an omission of Cardiff itself.


Bore off


Get back to the fantasy lab, you are overdue another tale aren’t you? :laughing6:

Another name what a psychopath


Yes, I can see it now. Hitchcock with his new Psycho movie:-

“The Man Who Creates a 1000 New Username on a Football Forum Where no one gives a shit about him and would probably celebrate if he dropped dead tomorrow”

Coming to cinemas near you, 18 rated due to its shocking nature.

Has all the hallmarks of an excellent thriller :laughing6:


A 1000 times you lonely freak show


:laughing6: Goats has a life/quote]
Goats is playing Nintendo with his kids....reckon I’m the polar opposite of seething right now. Excellent work fruitcake

Re: FAO wez : Sala to Cardiff contract clauses

Mon Feb 03, 2020 5:18 pm

Monster Raving Fruitcake....

He's a sad man.

Re: FAO wez : Sala to Cardiff contract clauses

Mon Feb 03, 2020 6:05 pm

Why on earth are you all replying to him, keep- your thread going bye all means but when he posts just ignore his post, dont under any circumstances bite.

Re: FAO wez : Sala to Cardiff contract clauses

Mon Feb 03, 2020 6:32 pm

Igovernor wrote:Why on earth are you all replying to him, keep- your thread going bye all means but when he posts just ignore his post, dont under any circumstances bite.


Mate, they come across as weak as him. Can’t they see they’re just feeding his sad desires?

Re: FAO wez : Sala to Cardiff contract clauses

Mon Feb 03, 2020 6:41 pm

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
Igovernor wrote:Why on earth are you all replying to him, keep- your thread going bye all means but when he posts just ignore his post, dont under any circumstances bite.


Mate, they come across as weak as him. Can’t they see they’re just feeding his sad desires?


No good complaining if people bite every time!

Re: FAO wez : Sala to Cardiff contract clauses

Mon Feb 03, 2020 7:24 pm

Igovernor wrote:
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:
Igovernor wrote:Why on earth are you all replying to him, keep- your thread going bye all means but when he posts just ignore his post, dont under any circumstances bite.


Mate, they come across as weak as him. Can’t they see they’re just feeding his sad desires?


No good complaining if people bite every time!


Never usually bother, don’t even read his drivel it’s always the same format. New user, 20 posts already, it’s fruit loop.
Has he got 3 usernames on this thread alone. Born loser

Re: FAO wez : Sala to Cardiff contract clauses

Mon Feb 03, 2020 7:42 pm

There's little point banning him if admins are going to validate him as a new member 10 minutes later.

It must be as obvious as the day is long that's these 'new profiles' are him.

Re: FAO wez : Sala to Cardiff contract clauses

Mon Feb 03, 2020 7:53 pm

RV Casual wrote:There's little point banning him if admins are going to validate him as a new member 10 minutes later.

It must be as obvious as the day is long that's these 'new profiles' are him.


I think that because he is always getting banned over the years, he has been building up a load of usernames over time, therfore it may mean that he does not have to apply for a new username as he has got loads in the bank ready to use.

Re: FAO wez : Sala to Cardiff contract clauses

Mon Feb 03, 2020 8:18 pm

Igovernor wrote:
RV Casual wrote:There's little point banning him if admins are going to validate him as a new member 10 minutes later.

It must be as obvious as the day is long that's these 'new profiles' are him.


I think that because he is always getting banned over the years, he has been building up a load of usernames over time, therfore it may mean that he does not have to apply for a new username as he has got loads in the bank ready to use.

His user names are dated last weekend when he joined

Re: FAO wez : Sala to Cardiff contract clauses

Mon Feb 03, 2020 8:47 pm

Igovernor wrote:
RV Casual wrote:There's little point banning him if admins are going to validate him as a new member 10 minutes later.

It must be as obvious as the day is long that's these 'new profiles' are him.


I think that because he is always getting banned over the years, he has been building up a load of usernames over time, therfore it may mean that he does not have to apply for a new username as he has got loads in the bank ready to use.


They are from today mate, you can see when he's joined in the profile

Re: FAO wez : Sala to Cardiff contract clauses

Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:09 pm

RV Casual wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
RV Casual wrote:There's little point banning him if admins are going to validate him as a new member 10 minutes later.

It must be as obvious as the day is long that's these 'new profiles' are him.


I think that because he is always getting banned over the years, he has been building up a load of usernames over time, therfore it may mean that he does not have to apply for a new username as he has got loads in the bank ready to use.


They are from today mate, you can see when he's joined in the profile



ive been saying this for months...joe bloggs signs up today and it might not get the go ahead until tomorrow.. yet one night he was rejoining minutes after a mod had banned him time and time again.