CEO Ken Choo:”We can’t continue to spend in the Championship

this idea the squad needs "serious investment" always confuses me, because i always assume people mean "spending money" to improve it. at the moment i would say we have one of the highest paid teams in the league. we could and should be getting rid of deadwood like Jazz back last summer and not extending his contract. plenty of teams are built on free transfers and loans, DJ used to do it for us for years, there is always quality out there, its all about finding the talent and paying the right money

Dave Jones brought all the big names in on high wages, but after 6yrs No promotions, so the debt for higher as we had no returns, plus as I say what really mattered to our fans was promotion and he failed.

Mcnaughton, Rae, Purse, Rog, Loovens, Chopra (first time), Burke, Whitts, (brought Rambo through)
thats just a few

he did that, while year after year, he had to sell our best player, he had the most exciting football i can remember.

NW came in, threw big wages and big transfer fees around and we're are a shambles at the moment. if DJ won that play off final, he would of gone down as our best manager amongst a load of fans.

threw big money....that's a joke surely ?
we signed 2 players that had been without a club for months ,loaned a keeper and signed Greg Halford in his 1st season and dragged us up to 12th and 62 points...
I agree with all of what you said about DJ ,he arrived here having not long lost kav, Collins, gabbidon, mcanuff, langly vidmar and more

i don't mean in his first season with regards to transfers, although £6m for Madine is still an absolute joke. although his first season, he spent a few Mil on Tomlin, (although now he is coming good) but he must of spent a fair few bob on wages.

in regards to threw money i mean, the last two years, look at the money he spent and what we got in return, (all the transfer fee's are rumoured and reported, but might not be accurate)

£6m - Flint
£4m - Smithies (when a decent back up would of been fine, he bought a number 1)
£4m - Cunningham
£4m - Pack
£10m - Reid
£10m - Murphy
£6m - Glatzel
£4m - Baccuna
£2m - Vaulks
£3m - Vassel
£1m - Bogle.

now annis argument was, DJ brought big names in on big wages and had no returns. i look at that and ask, what about NW, surely thats alot worse than DJ, i know he won us promotion. but my arguement is, you dont to spend money to find quality, you can do it on the cheap. and i used DJ as proof that it could be done, and has been done at the club

Bobby Reid sold for £11mill do you can wipe him out.
Plus we still have many of these players.


Neil Warnock earned promotion in 2nd season and earned £160mill min end off

6 yrs DJ won nothing.

so i am a bit confused annis, is your arguement then, you have to spend big money, to achieve promotion ?

Edited : he earned £160m Min, but then the CEO has come out and said we cannot afford to keep spending ? so where has the money NW earned gone

Not at all.

It’s about the right managers.

DJ’ spent big on signing on fees and massive wages and we won nothing in 6 yrs.

Malky and Warnock were allowed to buy players, but were the n my opinion and their records show better than Tans other 7 managers as they won promotions/trophies.

The facts are there our club received £160 mill in Oct from Tv/Sky/Prem/ Parachute payment.
Our losses are due to how our club is run in general and that for me is bad management at the Top.


We keep hearing every 2 yrs we need to calm down and run our club properly well then after 10yrs surely we should be not having to say this yet again.

We havnt recieved 160 million yet tho ? 100 million over last season and its 60 million in parachute payments over two years 35m this year in two payments and 35m same next, our wage bill will be more than the parachute payments this year also I very much doubt that the transfer fees have been paid in straight cash yet and probably split over the next couple of years

Tan gave up pushing us on after back to blue
Never the same since

I think Dalman and Choo
Still learning. Tan wants stability and a club that runs itself now. Ready to pull out.

Warnock praising Dalman
For giving him the cash to
Get deals through his son.

Now we're skint with a listless squad

........ Again

Perhaps they will learn this time.

Lee Tomlin has just signed a new deal...he is represented by the agency Neil Warnocks son works for too...
so bit unfair to be implying things and doubt you would enjoy someone going around saying stuff like that about you either...

So much bullshit on this thread.

this idea the squad needs "serious investment" always confuses me, because i always assume people mean "spending money" to improve it. at the moment i would say we have one of the highest paid teams in the league. we could and should be getting rid of deadwood like Jazz back last summer and not extending his contract. plenty of teams are built on free transfers and loans, DJ used to do it for us for years, there is always quality out there, its all about finding the talent and paying the right money

Dave Jones brought all the big names in on high wages, but after 6yrs No promotions, so the debt for higher as we had no returns, plus as I say what really mattered to our fans was promotion and he failed.

Mcnaughton, Rae, Purse, Rog, Loovens, Chopra (first time), Burke, Whitts, (brought Rambo through)
thats just a few

he did that, while year after year, he had to sell our best player, he had the most exciting football i can remember.

NW came in, threw big wages and big transfer fees around and we're are a shambles at the moment. if DJ won that play off final, he would of gone down as our best manager amongst a load of fans.

threw big money....that's a joke surely ?
we signed 2 players that had been without a club for months ,loaned a keeper and signed Greg Halford in his 1st season and dragged us up to 12th and 62 points...
I agree with all of what you said about DJ ,he arrived here having not long lost kav, Collins, gabbidon, mcanuff, langly vidmar and more

i don't mean in his first season with regards to transfers, although £6m for Madine is still an absolute joke. although his first season, he spent a few Mil on Tomlin, (although now he is coming good) but he must of spent a fair few bob on wages.

in regards to threw money i mean, the last two years, look at the money he spent and what we got in return, (all the transfer fee's are rumoured and reported, but might not be accurate)

£6m - Flint
£4m - Smithies (when a decent back up would of been fine, he bought a number 1)
£4m - Cunningham
£4m - Pack
£10m - Reid
£10m - Murphy
£6m - Glatzel
£4m - Baccuna
£2m - Vaulks
£3m - Vassel
£1m - Bogle.

now annis argument was, DJ brought big names in on big wages and had no returns. i look at that and ask, what about NW, surely thats alot worse than DJ, i know he won us promotion. but my arguement is, you dont to spend money to find quality, you can do it on the cheap. and i used DJ as proof that it could be done, and has been done at the club

Bobby Reid sold for £11mill do you can wipe him out.
Plus we still have many of these players.


Neil Warnock earned promotion in 2nd season and earned £160mill min end off

6 yrs DJ won nothing.

so i am a bit confused annis, is your arguement then, you have to spend big money, to achieve promotion ?

Edited : he earned £160m Min, but then the CEO has come out and said we cannot afford to keep spending ? so where has the money NW earned gone

Not at all.

It’s about the right managers.

DJ’ spent big on signing on fees and massive wages and we won nothing in 6 yrs.

Malky and Warnock were allowed to buy players, but were the n my opinion and their records show better than Tans other 7 managers as they won promotions/trophies.

The facts are there our club received £160 mill in Oct from Tv/Sky/Prem/ Parachute payment.
Our losses are due to how our club is run in general and that for me is bad management at the Top.


We keep hearing every 2 yrs we need to calm down and run our club properly well then after 10yrs surely we should be not having to say this yet again.

We havnt recieved 160 million yet tho ? 100 million over last season and its 60 million in parachute payments over two years 35m this year in two payments and 35m same next, our wage bill will be more than the parachute payments this year also I very much doubt that the transfer fees have been paid in straight cash yet and probably split over the next couple of years

I know for a fact we had just under £160mill last Oct.

Plus more money to come in parachute payments.

The funny story is this topic derailed from what it’s really about Ken Choo and Dalmans comments.

:happy1:

this idea the squad needs "serious investment" always confuses me, because i always assume people mean "spending money" to improve it. at the moment i would say we have one of the highest paid teams in the league. we could and should be getting rid of deadwood like Jazz back last summer and not extending his contract. plenty of teams are built on free transfers and loans, DJ used to do it for us for years, there is always quality out there, its all about finding the talent and paying the right money

Dave Jones brought all the big names in on high wages, but after 6yrs No promotions, so the debt for higher as we had no returns, plus as I say what really mattered to our fans was promotion and he failed.

Mcnaughton, Rae, Purse, Rog, Loovens, Chopra (first time), Burke, Whitts, (brought Rambo through)
thats just a few

he did that, while year after year, he had to sell our best player, he had the most exciting football i can remember.

NW came in, threw big wages and big transfer fees around and we're are a shambles at the moment. if DJ won that play off final, he would of gone down as our best manager amongst a load of fans.

threw big money....that's a joke surely ?
we signed 2 players that had been without a club for months ,loaned a keeper and signed Greg Halford in his 1st season and dragged us up to 12th and 62 points...
I agree with all of what you said about DJ ,he arrived here having not long lost kav, Collins, gabbidon, mcanuff, langly vidmar and more

i don't mean in his first season with regards to transfers, although £6m for Madine is still an absolute joke. although his first season, he spent a few Mil on Tomlin, (although now he is coming good) but he must of spent a fair few bob on wages.

in regards to threw money i mean, the last two years, look at the money he spent and what we got in return, (all the transfer fee's are rumoured and reported, but might not be accurate)

£6m - Flint
£4m - Smithies (when a decent back up would of been fine, he bought a number 1)
£4m - Cunningham
£4m - Pack
£10m - Reid
£10m - Murphy
£6m - Glatzel
£4m - Baccuna
£2m - Vaulks
£3m - Vassel
£1m - Bogle.

now annis argument was, DJ brought big names in on big wages and had no returns. i look at that and ask, what about NW, surely thats alot worse than DJ, i know he won us promotion. but my arguement is, you dont to spend money to find quality, you can do it on the cheap. and i used DJ as proof that it could be done, and has been done at the club

Bobby Reid sold for £11mill do you can wipe him out.
Plus we still have many of these players.


Neil Warnock earned promotion in 2nd season and earned £160mill min end off

6 yrs DJ won nothing.

so i am a bit confused annis, is your arguement then, you have to spend big money, to achieve promotion ?

Edited : he earned £160m Min, but then the CEO has come out and said we cannot afford to keep spending ? so where has the money NW earned gone

Not at all.

It’s about the right managers.

DJ’ spent big on signing on fees and massive wages and we won nothing in 6 yrs.

Malky and Warnock were allowed to buy players, but were the n my opinion and their records show better than Tans other 7 managers as they won promotions/trophies.

The facts are there our club received £160 mill in Oct from Tv/Sky/Prem/ Parachute payment.
Our losses are due to how our club is run in general and that for me is bad management at the Top.


We keep hearing every 2 yrs we need to calm down and run our club properly well then after 10yrs surely we should be not having to say this yet again.

We havnt recieved 160 million yet tho ? 100 million over last season and its 60 million in parachute payments over two years 35m this year in two payments and 35m same next, our wage bill will be more than the parachute payments this year also I very much doubt that the transfer fees have been paid in straight cash yet and probably split over the next couple of years

I know for a fact we had just under £160mill last Oct.

Plus more money to come in parachute payments.

Seen the accounts did you

The funny story is this topic derailed from what it’s really about Ken Choo and Dalmans comments.

Not really as you mention why havnt we got any money ,thread seems bang on

The funny story is this topic derailed from what it’s really about Ken Choo and Dalmans comments.

Not really as you mention why havnt we got any money ,thread seems bang on

Your right bang on, that Tans committee have blown all the money .

The funny story is this topic derailed from what it’s really about Ken Choo and Dalmans comments.

Not really as you mention why havnt we got any money ,thread seems bang on

Your right bang on, that Tans committee have blown all the money .

so have the managers then ?

The funny story is this topic derailed from what it’s really about Ken Choo and Dalmans comments.

Not really as you mention why havnt we got any money ,thread seems bang on

Your right bang on, that Tans committee have blown all the money .

so have the managers then ?

Round we go again

The funny story is this topic derailed from what it’s really about Ken Choo and Dalmans comments.

Not really as you mention why havnt we got any money ,thread seems bang on

Your right bang on, that Tans committee have blown all the money .

so have the managers then ?

I thought that’s what the committee was about in total control of finances / signings etc etc

In fact this was stated by our Chairman Dalman & CEO Ken Choo 4 yrs ago

Tan gave up pushing us on after back to blue
Never the same since

I think Dalman and Choo
Still learning. Tan wants stability and a club that runs itself now. Ready to pull out.

Warnock praising Dalman
For giving him the cash to
Get deals through his son.

Now we're skint with a listless squad

........ Again

Perhaps they will learn this time.

Lee Tomlin has just signed a new deal...he is represented by the agency Neil Warnocks son works for too...
so bit unfair to be implying things and doubt you would enjoy someone going around saying stuff like that about you either...

So much bullshit on this thread.

mate if someone has evidence fair enough...
but its a f*cking jackanory fest on here at the moment.
ive even seen one bloke actually include Tomlins new contract in these anti Warnock implications

The funny story is this topic derailed from what it’s really about Ken Choo and Dalmans comments.

Not really as you mention why havnt we got any money ,thread seems bang on

Your right bang on, that Tans committee have blown all the money .

so have the managers then ?

I thought that’s what the committee was about in total control of finances / signings etc etc

In fact this was stated by our Chairman Dalman & CEO Ken Choo 4 yrs ago

Does the committee include the managers yes or no ? If so everyone is to blame

The funny story is this topic derailed from what it’s really about Ken Choo and Dalmans comments.

Not really as you mention why havnt we got any money ,thread seems bang on

Your right bang on, that Tans committee have blown all the money .

so have the managers then ?

I thought that’s what the committee was about in total control of finances / signings etc etc

In fact this was stated by our Chairman Dalman & CEO Ken Choo 4 yrs ago

Does the committee include the managers yes or no ? If so everyone is to blame

mate, take a good long hard look down the road at the fees and wages they paid . and yes they are struggling but they gave it a go..in their last season up alone they signed messa. ayew, bony and Clucas plus others all for fees that would be club record fees here.. all on enormous money.. they are still there are not bankrupt and even above us.ffs..
we have fans that moan about ,make lists, and call waste 2mill signings ffs.... who slaughter managers that spent less in 4 years than they did in one.. it bugs me we look a small time version of them...it bugs me even more that we have fans that wish we were even smaller..

So is the Money being spent outside the team?

So is the Money being spent outside the team?

Good Question

People say where s the money, cardiff city borrow in a form of a loan 28 million in june 2018 also paid 35 million in transfer fees before we even kicked a ball in the premiership that's without wages and costs of that season last page of the 2018 accounts ,people need to get real how football finances work

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/00109065

Part of the money


In the accounts langstone were paid

Part of the money


In the accounts langstone were paid

Why has my post been edited

Part of the money


In the accounts langstone were paid

Why has my post been edited

I have deleted my comments, I will just say this, part of the money was paid, plenty still not paid.
I will just say this my view Tan will come unstuck again and cost our club dearly once again in interest/lawyers etc etc Plus penalties.
I will leave it there

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foo ... n-10819251 are you saying this didn't happen ?

Part of the money


In the accounts langstone were paid

Why has my post been edited

I have deleted my comments, I will just say this, part of the money was paid, plenty still not paid.
I will just say this my view Tan will come unstuck again and cost our club dearly once again in interest/lawyers etc etc Plus penalties.
I will leave it there

Are you saying that the 5 million and the 2 million wasnt paid?

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foo ... n-10819251

I dont know if you know Wez, City are playing its 2-2


I told you part of the money was paid, No where near all of it.

Thats it for me on this subject.

Just wait for the outcome once again

I dont know if you know Wez, City are playing its 2-2


I told you part of the money was paid, No where near all of it.

Thats it for me on this subject.

Just wait for the outcome once again

Settlement in 2016 was 5 million within 30 days and 2 million if we got promoted, that's all what was left to pay and the 5 million was in the accounts, havnt released the 2018/19 accounts yet

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35444992

So we won’t be spending millions on slow useless crap.

Best news I’ve heard all week.

The Transfer Committee are f*cking useless and cost this club millions of pounds. It doesn’t work not one of them have a clue what there doing.

Nothing will change because Tan won’t trust anybody to do the job properly.

So in theory, we would have a lot more money if we didn't have to pay a certain someone's loan to himself back in the first place

Expensive stuff these long walks and ice creams.

Malaysian flags must have cost a bit too.