Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:30 am
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Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:56 am
fred keenor wrote:So we have the only 2 people arrested and charged were the mortuary assistants.
What must the Sala family be thinking, shocking.
Wed Mar 11, 2020 1:47 pm
Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:29 pm
Paul Keevil wrote:This is an important decision which adversely effects our case against Nantes, in my opinion.
In previous posts I have referred to the Civil Evidence Act, 1968 and suggested that when a Person is found guilty in Criminal Proceedings they are also negligent in Civil Proceedings
and if they are negligent in Civil Proceedings, Nantes (in this instance), would be Vicariously Liable for his/her actions and then become responsible for the losses we as a club sustained.
My interpretation of this is that, as said person is not guilty of a criminal offence, it follows that it will be harder to prove negligence against him/her - although not impossible - and therefore harder to place any liability on Nantes.
Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:17 pm
Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:22 pm
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Wed Mar 11, 2020 5:44 pm
Wed Mar 11, 2020 5:56 pm
Paul Keevil wrote:It certainly is. A criminal court = “beyond reasonable doubt”
Civil proceedings = “on the balance of probabilities”
The civil evidence act essentially says if you are guilty in criminal proceedings then you are guilty in civil proceedings - which if that had g happened would have automatically made Nantes vicariously liable
Now CCFC will have to prove that said person was negligent in civil proceedings and that is not going to be a short process
Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:17 pm
Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:08 pm
Paul Keevil wrote:In the last couple of years, apart from personal injury claims, I have been handling historic football abuse cases. I have been representing some of the former Southampton players against Bob Higgins and also some of the Crewe players against Barry Bennell.
The rules in respect to vicariously liable are very loose. You don’t have to be employed and have a specific job title by a club. All you need is to “represent the club in some capacity” - and organising a flight might be enough
Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:43 pm
Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:16 am
Paul Keevil wrote:This is an important decision which adversely effects our case against Nantes, in my opinion.
In previous posts I have referred to the Civil Evidence Act, 1968 and suggested that when a Person is found guilty in Criminal Proceedings they are also negligent in Civil Proceedings
and if they are negligent in Civil Proceedings, Nantes (in this instance), would be Vicariously Liable for his/her actions and then become responsible for the losses we as a club sustained.
My interpretation of this is that, as said person is not guilty of a criminal offence, it follows that it will be harder to prove negligence against him/her - although not impossible - and therefore harder to place any liability on Nantes.
Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:56 am
Steve Zodiak wrote:Paul Keevil wrote:This is an important decision which adversely effects our case against Nantes, in my opinion.
In previous posts I have referred to the Civil Evidence Act, 1968 and suggested that when a Person is found guilty in Criminal Proceedings they are also negligent in Civil Proceedings
and if they are negligent in Civil Proceedings, Nantes (in this instance), would be Vicariously Liable for his/her actions and then become responsible for the losses we as a club sustained.
My interpretation of this is that, as said person is not guilty of a criminal offence, it follows that it will be harder to prove negligence against him/her - although not impossible - and therefore harder to place any liability on Nantes.
I thought the club's case revolved around contract issues and whether or not he was a City player rather than irregularities with the actual flight.
Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:24 pm
Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:08 am
JulesK wrote:Folk who think this bloke is off the hook are being a bit premature imho. Personally, if he has done as suggested and gave a flight to another pilot with or without knowing that said pilot should not have taken the flight, I hope it dwells on his conscious daily.
RIP both.