ealing_ayatollah wrote:I was wondering how much the hysteria and upset would be reduced if the numbers were shown differently (and I was a bit bored tbh) so put the same data from the FT graph from Jimmy's post into a less sensationalist chart.
OK so my version has less scary jaggedly lines and admittedly I'm never going to win prizes for graphic design but a more realistic representation of the magnitude of the problem.
C. Rombie-Coat wrote:The latest UK Health Security Agency report was released today.
A link to an analysis is below:
'It is clear from above that the vaccinated is being infected at far greater levels than the unvaccinated. Except < 18 years old.'
https://palexander.substack.com/p/uk-he ... irst-covid
Good analysis of figures for Wales.
Difficult to hide the truth. More to come I think.
ealing_ayatollah wrote:I was wondering how much the hysteria and upset would be reduced if the numbers were shown differently (and I was a bit bored tbh) so put the same data from the FT graph from Jimmy's post into a less sensationalist chart.
OK so my version has less scary jaggedly lines and admittedly I'm never going to win prizes for graphic design but a more realistic representation of the magnitude of the problem.
rumpo kid wrote:ealing_ayatollah wrote:I was wondering how much the hysteria and upset would be reduced if the numbers were shown differently (and I was a bit bored tbh) so put the same data from the FT graph from Jimmy's post into a less sensationalist chart.
OK so my version has less scary jaggedly lines and admittedly I'm never going to win prizes for graphic design but a more realistic representation of the magnitude of the problem.
I agree re: prizes for graphic design ealing.. the green clashing with the red line totally ruined the experience for me.
C. Rombie-Coat wrote:The latest UK Health Security Agency report was released today.
A link to an analysis is below:
'It is clear from above that the vaccinated is being infected at far greater levels than the unvaccinated. Except < 18 years old.'
https://palexander.substack.com/p/uk-he ... irst-covid
Good analysis of figures for Wales.
Difficult to hide the truth. More to come I think.
CF11 Rondo wrote:C. Rombie-Coat wrote:The latest UK Health Security Agency report was released today.
A link to an analysis is below:
'It is clear from above that the vaccinated is being infected at far greater levels than the unvaccinated. Except < 18 years old.'
https://palexander.substack.com/p/uk-he ... irst-covid
Good analysis of figures for Wales.
Difficult to hide the truth. More to come I think.
You’ve made the same mistake you made previously. Over 90% of adults have had a vaccination. It’s not a secret or a surprise that there’s more vaccinated people getting infected. Most soldiers that get shot are wearing helmets and most people in car crashes are wearing seat belts. That doesn’t mean helmets and seatbelts increase the risk of injuries.
Despite <10% of adults being unvaccinated, the unvaccinated make up 32% of cases in Wales. That’s using the numbers you’ve provided.
CF11 Rondo wrote:C. Rombie-Coat wrote:The latest UK Health Security Agency report was released today.
A link to an analysis is below:
'It is clear from above that the vaccinated is being infected at far greater levels than the unvaccinated. Except < 18 years old.'
https://palexander.substack.com/p/uk-he ... irst-covid
Good analysis of figures for Wales.
Difficult to hide the truth. More to come I think.
You’ve made the same mistake you made previously. Over 90% of adults have had a vaccination. It’s not a secret or a surprise that there’s more vaccinated people getting infected. Most soldiers that get shot are wearing helmets and most people in car crashes are wearing seat belts. That doesn’t mean helmets and seatbelts increase the risk of injuries.
Despite <10% of adults being unvaccinated, the unvaccinated make up 32% of cases in Wales. That’s using the numbers you’ve provided.
C. Rombie-Coat wrote:CF11 Rondo wrote:C. Rombie-Coat wrote:The latest UK Health Security Agency report was released today.
A link to an analysis is below:
'It is clear from above that the vaccinated is being infected at far greater levels than the unvaccinated. Except < 18 years old.'
https://palexander.substack.com/p/uk-he ... irst-covid
Good analysis of figures for Wales.
Difficult to hide the truth. More to come I think.
You’ve made the same mistake you made previously. Over 90% of adults have had a vaccination. It’s not a secret or a surprise that there’s more vaccinated people getting infected. Most soldiers that get shot are wearing helmets and most people in car crashes are wearing seat belts. That doesn’t mean helmets and seatbelts increase the risk of injuries.
Despite <10% of adults being unvaccinated, the unvaccinated make up 32% of cases in Wales. That’s using the numbers you’ve provided.
No. It’s you that is wrong-again. As Ealing explains above, the comparison is between groups.
Here is a summary of the report’s UK figures- is linked in the comments under the link I posted.
https://i.imgur.com/gYsbYey.jpg
Could it be possible, as expert scientists and clinicians (the ones that you won’t see on the TV or in the press) have been saying since the outset that the impact of jabs on the immune system is not a good one? That one of the effects is to actually promote the formation/mutation of viruses and spread thereof?
As to the Welsh figures all those masks/social distancing/passports do seem to been a waste of time. The situation is far worse than in England. All those jabs and look where we are.
Alternatively of course the testing is a load of bollocks and a massive red herring.
Perhaps it’s not about public health.
epping blue wrote:C. Rombie-Coat wrote:CF11 Rondo wrote:C. Rombie-Coat wrote:The latest UK Health Security Agency report was released today.
A link to an analysis is below:
'It is clear from above that the vaccinated is being infected at far greater levels than the unvaccinated. Except < 18 years old.'
https://palexander.substack.com/p/uk-he ... irst-covid
Good analysis of figures for Wales.
Difficult to hide the truth. More to come I think.
You’ve made the same mistake you made previously. Over 90% of adults have had a vaccination. It’s not a secret or a surprise that there’s more vaccinated people getting infected. Most soldiers that get shot are wearing helmets and most people in car crashes are wearing seat belts. That doesn’t mean helmets and seatbelts increase the risk of injuries.
Despite <10% of adults being unvaccinated, the unvaccinated make up 32% of cases in Wales. That’s using the numbers you’ve provided.
No. It’s you that is wrong-again. As Ealing explains above, the comparison is between groups.
Here is a summary of the report’s UK figures- is linked in the comments under the link I posted.
https://i.imgur.com/gYsbYey.jpg
Could it be possible, as expert scientists and clinicians (the ones that you won’t see on the TV or in the press) have been saying since the outset that the impact of jabs on the immune system is not a good one? That one of the effects is to actually promote the formation/mutation of viruses and spread thereof?
As to the Welsh figures all those masks/social distancing/passports do seem to been a waste of time. The situation is far worse than in England. All those jabs and look where we are.
Alternatively of course the testing is a load of bollocks and a massive red herring.
Perhaps it’s not about public health.
Will you or Ealing like to show the rest of that table ? You know the columns that show the relative Hospitalisation and Death rates.
TopCat CCFC wrote:'100 invited' to Downing Street garden lockdown drinks -
As many as 100 people were invited to a "bring-your-own-booze" drinks event in the Downing Street garden during the first lockdown, it is understood.
Witnesses have told the BBC the PM and his wife attended the gathering on 20 May 2020.
But Boris Johnson has declined to say whether he was among those there.
The Metropolitan Police said it was in contact with the government over "widespread reporting relating to alleged breaches" of Covid rules.
An email, revealed by ITV News, invited people to "socially distanced drinks in the No 10 garden this evening".
It was sent when lockdown restrictions were still in place. It was only 12 days later - on 1 June - that rules in England were relaxed to allow groups of up to six people to meet outside.
piledriver64 wrote:TopCat CCFC wrote:'100 invited' to Downing Street garden lockdown drinks -
As many as 100 people were invited to a "bring-your-own-booze" drinks event in the Downing Street garden during the first lockdown, it is understood.
Witnesses have told the BBC the PM and his wife attended the gathering on 20 May 2020.
But Boris Johnson has declined to say whether he was among those there.
The Metropolitan Police said it was in contact with the government over "widespread reporting relating to alleged breaches" of Covid rules.
An email, revealed by ITV News, invited people to "socially distanced drinks in the No 10 garden this evening".
It was sent when lockdown restrictions were still in place. It was only 12 days later - on 1 June - that rules in England were relaxed to allow groups of up to six people to meet outside.
This is now getting undefendable. Whatever your politics people have to see the contempt that this government is treating the electorate with.
Imagine if this had been that idiot Corbyn, he’d have been hounded out within a couple of weeks.
Johnson’s position is now untenable, he’s lost his party and the majority of the electorate.
The Tories would get back in if there was an election tomorrow because there doesn’t seem to be a strong enough opposition but if this carries on a lot of the party will get increasingly concerned about the polls and even Boris can’t survive without his party.
The inquiry has to be completed before anything really happens but Boris will be in a bad spot if some of the accusations are proven.
ealing_ayatollah wrote:piledriver64 wrote:TopCat CCFC wrote:'100 invited' to Downing Street garden lockdown drinks -
As many as 100 people were invited to a "bring-your-own-booze" drinks event in the Downing Street garden during the first lockdown, it is understood.
Witnesses have told the BBC the PM and his wife attended the gathering on 20 May 2020.
But Boris Johnson has declined to say whether he was among those there.
The Metropolitan Police said it was in contact with the government over "widespread reporting relating to alleged breaches" of Covid rules.
An email, revealed by ITV News, invited people to "socially distanced drinks in the No 10 garden this evening".
It was sent when lockdown restrictions were still in place. It was only 12 days later - on 1 June - that rules in England were relaxed to allow groups of up to six people to meet outside.
This is now getting undefendable. Whatever your politics people have to see the contempt that this government is treating the electorate with.
Imagine if this had been that idiot Corbyn, he’d have been hounded out within a couple of weeks.
Johnson’s position is now untenable, he’s lost his party and the majority of the electorate.
The Tories would get back in if there was an election tomorrow because there doesn’t seem to be a strong enough opposition but if this carries on a lot of the party will get increasingly concerned about the polls and even Boris can’t survive without his party.
The inquiry has to be completed before anything really happens but Boris will be in a bad spot if some of the accusations are proven.
100% agree. One thing this whole damn saga has done is lift the veil on the bare-faced hypocrisy within the political class of all stripes.
They think they are above us and sadly everytime we keep voting them all in because of the colour of the tie they where or the polished lies they spout in front of the TV cameras in campaign season.
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting for what to have for dinner.
ealing_ayatollah wrote:piledriver64 wrote:TopCat CCFC wrote:'100 invited' to Downing Street garden lockdown drinks -
As many as 100 people were invited to a "bring-your-own-booze" drinks event in the Downing Street garden during the first lockdown, it is understood.
Witnesses have told the BBC the PM and his wife attended the gathering on 20 May 2020.
But Boris Johnson has declined to say whether he was among those there.
The Metropolitan Police said it was in contact with the government over "widespread reporting relating to alleged breaches" of Covid rules.
An email, revealed by ITV News, invited people to "socially distanced drinks in the No 10 garden this evening".
It was sent when lockdown restrictions were still in place. It was only 12 days later - on 1 June - that rules in England were relaxed to allow groups of up to six people to meet outside.
This is now getting undefendable. Whatever your politics people have to see the contempt that this government is treating the electorate with.
Imagine if this had been that idiot Corbyn, he’d have been hounded out within a couple of weeks.
Johnson’s position is now untenable, he’s lost his party and the majority of the electorate.
The Tories would get back in if there was an election tomorrow because there doesn’t seem to be a strong enough opposition but if this carries on a lot of the party will get increasingly concerned about the polls and even Boris can’t survive without his party.
The inquiry has to be completed before anything really happens but Boris will be in a bad spot if some of the accusations are proven.
100% agree. One thing this whole damn saga has done is lift the veil on the bare-faced hypocrisy within the political class of all stripes.
They think they are above us and sadly everytime we keep voting them all in because of the colour of the tie they where or the polished lies they spout in front of the TV cameras in campaign season.
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting for what to have for dinner.
Bluebina wrote:ealing_ayatollah wrote:piledriver64 wrote:TopCat CCFC wrote:'100 invited' to Downing Street garden lockdown drinks -
As many as 100 people were invited to a "bring-your-own-booze" drinks event in the Downing Street garden during the first lockdown, it is understood.
Witnesses have told the BBC the PM and his wife attended the gathering on 20 May 2020.
But Boris Johnson has declined to say whether he was among those there.
The Metropolitan Police said it was in contact with the government over "widespread reporting relating to alleged breaches" of Covid rules.
An email, revealed by ITV News, invited people to "socially distanced drinks in the No 10 garden this evening".
It was sent when lockdown restrictions were still in place. It was only 12 days later - on 1 June - that rules in England were relaxed to allow groups of up to six people to meet outside.
This is now getting undefendable. Whatever your politics people have to see the contempt that this government is treating the electorate with.
Imagine if this had been that idiot Corbyn, he’d have been hounded out within a couple of weeks.
Johnson’s position is now untenable, he’s lost his party and the majority of the electorate.
The Tories would get back in if there was an election tomorrow because there doesn’t seem to be a strong enough opposition but if this carries on a lot of the party will get increasingly concerned about the polls and even Boris can’t survive without his party.
The inquiry has to be completed before anything really happens but Boris will be in a bad spot if some of the accusations are proven.
100% agree. One thing this whole damn saga has done is lift the veil on the bare-faced hypocrisy within the political class of all stripes.
They think they are above us and sadly everytime we keep voting them all in because of the colour of the tie they where or the polished lies they spout in front of the TV cameras in campaign season.
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting for what to have for dinner.
Agreed, they do it because they can almost always get away with it, but Boris has underestimated his enemies and the Tories are ruthless, Cummings and others are getting their own back for their sackings and demotions!
I am a bit surprised that people thought they wouldn't be having gatherings and cheating some of the rules, as probably more than half the country broke one rule or another during the pandemic, and the people in charge have always done whatever it is they want?
I think his days are numbered he is in the job as a serial campaign winner, as soon as that's in doubt they will be looking for a new leader quicker than Roman Abramovich, they are probably plotting the replacement ready for the Summer!
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