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Postby TopCat CCFC » Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:23 am

UK orders 35 million more Pfizer vaccine doses -

The UK has ordered 35 million more doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, which will be delivered in the second half of 2022.

The government said it was preparing for a programme of Covid boosters to protect the most vulnerable this year.

Health and Social Care Secretary Sajid Javid said the move was intended "to future-proof our vaccine programme".

The UK has now ordered more than 540 million doses of eight different Covid vaccines.

Four have so far been approved for use in the UK.

The deal with Pfizer means the UK has ordered more doses of that Covid vaccine - 135 million - than any other.

The NHS was given the green light to start planning third booster doses for the over-50s, after interim advice from the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) in early July, and Mr Javid recently said the programme would start in September.

However, the UK's vaccine committee is still to give its final advice on whether a booster programme ahead of this winter should proceed and who should be included.
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Postby Bluebina » Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:06 am

I'm surprised they haven't tried tweaking the vaccines to make them less likely to become infected and less likley to transmit to other when you are infected?

I suppose they must be working on it but no break throughs yet?
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Postby Scoularite » Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:35 am

I think they are trying to follow the same methods they already use for the annual flu jab where the aim is to try to provide a good level of protection for those who are inoculated. As a virus keeps mutating I believe the manufacturers need to keep tweaking the vaccines to basically provide a "front-line" defence for the most vulnerable to try to minimise the number of seriously ill patients. You can still get flu after having a jab, so you could still even pass flu on.
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Postby BLUE54 » Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:48 am

Yes I believe you are correct with this. The interesting thing with that though is, we believe that covid will be around, maybe indefinitely, and the vaccine definitely seems to limit the effect, BUT if it's still going to be transmissible, and there appears to be a limit on how long the efficacy lasts, when will the rest of the world i.e. USA, AUS, NZ, etc feel it's ready to open up to visitors. Also, the phrase "no one is safe until we are all safe" (vaccinated), the rest of the world will never be safe as it will be impossible to keep up with the vaccination rate if the effect wears off in 9 months or so. It's a sobering thought.
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Postby Bluebina » Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:56 am

BLUE54 wrote:Yes I believe you are correct with this. The interesting thing with that though is, we believe that covid will be around, maybe indefinitely, and the vaccine definitely seems to limit the effect, BUT if it's still going to be transmissible, and there appears to be a limit on how long the efficacy lasts, when will the rest of the world i.e. USA, AUS, NZ, etc feel it's ready to open up to visitors. Also, the phrase "no one is safe until we are all safe" (vaccinated), the rest of the world will never be safe as it will be impossible to keep up with the vaccination rate if the effect wears off in 9 months or so. It's a sobering thought.



I've heard top scientists and commentators say that as the immunity increases, through catching the virus multiple times and multiple vaccines and boosters from different providers, the effects will diminish to more like the common cold. You can see that that process has already started for the double vaccinated and people catching it for the second time.

It's only so powerful now because their is no immunity as it's a brand new adapted animal virus, but it looks like that may take many years!
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Postby katymcbride280 » Tue Aug 24, 2021 2:04 pm

TopCat CCFC wrote:Covid: Antibody tests offered to public for first time -

Antibody tests are to be widely offered to the UK public for the first time in a new programme that aims to find out more about how much natural protection people have after getting coronavirus.

The government scheme will offer tests to thousands of adults each day.

Anyone over 18 will be able to opt in when having a PCR test from Tuesday - of those who test positive, up to 8,000 will be sent two home antibody tests.

Health Secretary Sajid Javid said it would be quick and easy to take part.

The first of the finger-prick tests would have to be done as soon as possible after the positive result, so the body would not have time to generate a detectable antibody response to the infection.

The second would be taken 28 days later and measure antibodies generated in response to the infection.

The UK Health Security Agency is to run the programme and will work alongside NHS test and trace services in England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland to use results to monitor levels of antibodies in positive cases.


I am so glad to know that anyone in public can have an atibody tests! More people will be tested, the better. Thank you for the update! Have a nice day.
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Postby Welshman in CA » Tue Aug 24, 2021 3:10 pm

Pfizer vaccine has now got full FDA approval over here in the USA. What will be the excuse now?
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Postby TopCat CCFC » Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:21 pm

Covid infection protection waning in double jabbed -

Researchers say they are seeing some waning of protection against Covid infections in double-jabbed people.

The real-world study includes data on positive Covid PCR test results between May and July 2021 among more than a million people who had received two doses of Pfizer or AstraZeneca vaccine.

Protection after two shots of Pfizer decreased from 88% at one month to 74% at five to six months.

For AstraZeneca, the fall was from 77% to 67% at four to five months.

Waning protection is to be expected, say experts.

Although some breakthrough infections may be happening, vaccines are still doing a very good job at protecting people against severe Covid illness and deaths.
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Re: UPDATED DAILY : UK CORONAVIRUS - UPDATED 27/08/21

Postby TopCat CCFC » Fri Aug 27, 2021 12:08 am

Covid in Wales: No significant changes to rules in latest review -

There will be no significant changes to the Covid rules in Wales in the latest review of the regulations, the first minister has confirmed.

It comes as Covid case rates in Wales are among the highest since January.

Mark Drakeford has urged people to protect themselves and others and get vaccinated to stop the virus spreading.

The Tories said they had expected no changes this time. Plaid Cymru wanted confirmation plans were ready for third vaccination doses if they were needed.

The next review will take place on 16 September, and between now and then the Welsh government will continue to consider the case for requiring people to show proof of vaccination in order to enter certain higher risk settings.
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Postby katymcbride280 » Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:13 pm

Welshman in CA wrote:Pfizer vaccine has now got full FDA approval over here in the USA. What will be the excuse now?

I know right! Still waiting for any rebuttals from anti-vaxx lmao! Is Pfizer the first vax to be approved by FDA?
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Postby Welshman in CA » Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:16 pm

katymcbride280 wrote:
Welshman in CA wrote:Pfizer vaccine has now got full FDA approval over here in the USA. What will be the excuse now?

I know right! Still waiting for any rebuttals from anti-vaxx lmao! Is Pfizer the first vax to be approved by FDA?


Yes it is, Moderna expected to be approved in a few weeks and then J&J.
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Postby pembroke allan » Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:39 pm

TopCat CCFC wrote:Covid in Wales: No significant changes to rules in latest review -

There will be no significant changes to the Covid rules in Wales in the latest review of the regulations, the first minister has confirmed.

It comes as Covid case rates in Wales are among the highest since January.

Mark Drakeford has urged people to protect themselves and others and get vaccinated to stop the virus spreading.

The Tories said they had expected no changes this time. Plaid Cymru wanted confirmation plans were ready for third vaccination doses if they were needed.

The next review will take place on 16 September, and between now and then the Welsh government will continue to consider the case for requiring people to show proof of vaccination in order to enter certain higher risk settings.




Things will change soon as already making noises to stop unvaccinated people travelling abroad and restricting their ability to go inside certain areas ... further down line can see spot lockdowns in high infection areas
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Postby MR BIRCHGROVE » Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:47 pm

With Covid infection rates currently constantly increasing gradually, wait until the kids are back in school in Wales.
That's when it will all kick off again with the Welsh government placing restrictions.
You only have to check out Scotland's increasing infections this week as their kids had already returned.
Will it be regional lockdowns, certain entertainment or hospitality closures or will they introduce vaccine passports for entry to certain places along with all foreign travel?
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Postby Sven » Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:59 pm

MR BIRCHGROVE wrote:With Covid infection rates currently constantly increasing gradually, wait until the kids are back in school in Wales.
That's when it will all kick off again with the Welsh government placing restrictions.
You only have to check out Scotland's increasing infections this week as their kids had already returned.
Will it be regional lockdowns, certain entertainment or hospitality closures or will they introduce vaccine passports for entry to certain places along with all foreign travel?

Scotland have said (quote Jimmy Cranky) 'there are no plans' to reintroduce restrictions that are not already in place and WAG have made no comment whatsoever, so your OP is guesswork only...

But if we want to make sure restrictions are not put in place at any point, what about the novel idea of those (and there are many) who have abandoned any recognition of Covid-19 still being a threat, as witnessed by the numbers of people walking around our stadium, supermarkets and other enclosed spaces without the requested facemasks

The irony is that they will be amongst the most vocal in event restrictions were put in place...

Sadly, as my late father used to say, you can't educate pork...! :oops:
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Postby MR BIRCHGROVE » Fri Aug 27, 2021 6:13 pm

Sven wrote:
MR BIRCHGROVE wrote:With Covid infection rates currently constantly increasing gradually, wait until the kids are back in school in Wales.
That's when it will all kick off again with the Welsh government placing restrictions.
You only have to check out Scotland's increasing infections this week as their kids had already returned.
Will it be regional lockdowns, certain entertainment or hospitality closures or will they introduce vaccine passports for entry to certain places along with all foreign travel?

Scotland have said (quote Jimmy Cranky) 'there are no plans' to reintroduce restrictions that are not already in place and WAG have made no comment whatsoever, so your OP is guesswork only...

But if we want to make sure restrictions are not put in place at any point, what about the novel idea of those (and there are many) who have abandoned any recognition of Covid-19 still being a threat, as witnessed by the numbers of people walking around our stadium, supermarkets and other enclosed spaces without the requested facemasks

The irony is that they will be amongst the most vocal in event restrictions were put in place...

Sadly, as my late father used to say, you can't educate pork...! :oops:

Your late father sounded a very wise man. Love that quote and could have been used numerous times following some of the comments I previously read on this subject! :old:
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Postby TheHangedMan » Sat Aug 28, 2021 12:51 am

I'm getting confused and would be grateful if a sharp mind with facts could enlighten me.

As I understand it:

1. A double jab does not stop me getting Covid.....but it does lessen the grief (but if I'm vulnerable I may still pass this mortal coil!).

2. A double jab does not stop me transmitting Covid (but we don't like to talk about that).

3. A double jab may not be sufficient to stop the 2 above (even though they stop nothing) so I may need a 3rd/4th/5th...to complete the non stopping!

4. If all of the above fail I'm likely to catch the latest variant (at present Covid 22 but that is still up for debate!)

Maybe it's better that we get on with life as normal and ignore the fearmongerers. :bluebird:
Not a shred of evidence exists in favour of the idea that life is serious........
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Postby skidemin » Sat Aug 28, 2021 1:47 am

katymcbride280 wrote:
Welshman in CA wrote:Pfizer vaccine has now got full FDA approval over here in the USA. What will be the excuse now?

I know right! Still waiting for any rebuttals from anti-vaxx lmao! Is Pfizer the first vax to be approved by FDA?



oh so they had not been approved but people had it anyway..... good thinking that...
into any other experimental stuff that might and might not be approved one day ?
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Postby davids » Sat Aug 28, 2021 6:04 am

MR BIRCHGROVE wrote:With Covid infection rates currently constantly increasing gradually, wait until the kids are back in school in Wales.
That's when it will all kick off again with the Welsh government placing restrictions.
You only have to check out Scotland's increasing infections this week as their kids had already returned.
Will it be regional lockdowns, certain entertainment or hospitality closures or will they introduce vaccine passports for entry to certain places along with all foreign travel?


The all consuming media driven obsession with "infections" continues unabated. Now that the vast majority of the population have been vaccinated the only statistics that matter should be hospitalisations and deaths which thankfully remain low.

In years gone by when flu could cause many thousands of deaths in vulnerable people there were never daily figures published for the amount of people who had a cold every day.

Knowing that the vaccine does not stop a person from catching the virus surely the only way of judging it's success is the effect it has on limiting deaths and the number of people needing to go into hospital.

Why is there still the obsession with infection rates?
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Postby MR BIRCHGROVE » Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:03 am

TheHangedMan wrote:I'm getting confused and would be grateful if a sharp mind with facts could enlighten me.

As I understand it:

1. A double jab does not stop me getting Covid.....but it does lessen the grief (but if I'm vulnerable I may still pass this mortal coil!).

2. A double jab does not stop me transmitting Covid (but we don't like to talk about that).

3. A double jab may not be sufficient to stop the 2 above (even though they stop nothing) so I may need a 3rd/4th/5th...to complete the non stopping!

4. If all of the above fail I'm likely to catch the latest variant (at present Covid 22 but that is still up for debate!)

Maybe it's better that we get on with life as normal and ignore the fearmongerers. :bluebird:

Shouldn't think too many people could argue against your four points above.

However, do you not think the vaccines are helping to reduce hospital admissions with the virus and subsequent deaths?

It's my guess that without the vaccines the British government leaders would already be considering further restrictions or even lockdowns.
So maybe you should just be grateful that the 90% or so of us that have accepted the vaccine are helping to keep you currently enjoying your 'life as normal'
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Re: UPDATED DAILY : UK CORONAVIRUS - UPDATED 27/08/21

Postby davids » Sat Aug 28, 2021 5:52 pm

MR BIRCHGROVE wrote:
TheHangedMan wrote:I'm getting confused and would be grateful if a sharp mind with facts could enlighten me.

As I understand it:

1. A double jab does not stop me getting Covid.....but it does lessen the grief (but if I'm vulnerable I may still pass this mortal coil!).

2. A double jab does not stop me transmitting Covid (but we don't like to talk about that).

3. A double jab may not be sufficient to stop the 2 above (even though they stop nothing) so I may need a 3rd/4th/5th...to complete the non stopping!

4. If all of the above fail I'm likely to catch the latest variant (at present Covid 22 but that is still up for debate!)

Maybe it's better that we get on with life as normal and ignore the fearmongerers. :bluebird:

Shouldn't think too many people could argue against your four points above.

However, do you not think the vaccines are helping to reduce hospital admissions with the virus and subsequent deaths?

It's my guess that without the vaccines the British government leaders would already be considering further restrictions or even lockdowns.
So maybe you should just be grateful that the 90% or so of us that have accepted the vaccine are helping to keep you currently enjoying your 'life as normal'


I honestly think that certainly the leaders of Scotland and Wales are already giving very serious consideration to further restrictions and even lockdowns despite the apparent success of the vaccines in keeping the deaths and hospital admissions low and it will be the number of infections they use as the reason to justify them.
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Re: UPDATED DAILY : UK CORONAVIRUS - UPDATED 29/08/21

Postby TopCat CCFC » Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:21 am

Slight increase in daily cases -

After falling over recent weeks, the average number of daily confirmed cases has now been rising for several days.

A further 32,406 confirmed cases in the UK were announced on Saturday.

The recent rise in cases has been driven by the Delta variant, which spreads faster than the previously most common Kent variant (now named Alpha).

Prime Minister Boris Johnson lifted all legal restrictions in England in July but urged the public to remain cautious, saying the pandemic was not over.

Number of daily deaths low -

There were 133 deaths within 28 days of a positive test reported on Saturday.

Of those deaths, 119 were in England, six were in Northern Ireland and eight were in Scotland. No deaths were reported in Wales.
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Postby Scoularite » Sun Aug 29, 2021 9:22 am

by MR BIRCHGROVE » Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:03 am

TheHangedMan wrote:
I'm getting confused and would be grateful if a sharp mind with facts could enlighten me.

As I understand it:

1. A double jab does not stop me getting Covid.....but it does lessen the grief (but if I'm vulnerable I may still pass this mortal coil!).

2. A double jab does not stop me transmitting Covid (but we don't like to talk about that).

3. A double jab may not be sufficient to stop the 2 above (even though they stop nothing) so I may need a 3rd/4th/5th...to complete the non stopping!

4. If all of the above fail I'm likely to catch the latest variant (at present Covid 22 but that is still up for debate!)

Maybe it's better that we get on with life as normal and ignore the fearmongerers. :bluebird:

Shouldn't think too many people could argue against your four points above.

However, do you not think the vaccines are helping to reduce hospital admissions with the virus and subsequent deaths?

It's my guess that without the vaccines the British government leaders would already be considering further restrictions or even lockdowns.
So maybe you should just be grateful that the 90% or so of us that have accepted the vaccine are helping to keep you currently enjoying your 'life as normal'


Well, I'm who would argue -

Point 1 - Yes a "double jab" does not stop you from getting covid, but it does reduce the risk of serious illness and needing to go to hospital;

Point 2 - No, a "double jab" does not stop you from transmitting covid and it has been explained repeatedly across all forms of the media:

Point 3 - What is it saying??? Just repeating points 1 and 2;

Point 4 - Again, what is it saying???? Nothing and new variants are a risk to everyone.

But surprisingly no mention of long covid.
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Postby TheHangedMan » Sun Aug 29, 2021 11:20 am

MR BIRCHGROVE wrote:
TheHangedMan wrote:I'm getting confused and would be grateful if a sharp mind with facts could enlighten me.

As I understand it:

1. A double jab does not stop me getting Covid.....but it does lessen the grief (but if I'm vulnerable I may still pass this mortal coil!).

2. A double jab does not stop me transmitting Covid (but we don't like to talk about that).

3. A double jab may not be sufficient to stop the 2 above (even though they stop nothing) so I may need a 3rd/4th/5th...to complete the non stopping!

4. If all of the above fail I'm likely to catch the latest variant (at present Covid 22 but that is still up for debate!)

Maybe it's better that we get on with life as normal and ignore the fearmongerers. :bluebird:

Shouldn't think too many people could argue against your four points above.

However, do you not think the vaccines are helping to reduce hospital admissions with the virus and subsequent deaths?

It's my guess that without the vaccines the British government leaders would already be considering further restrictions or even lockdowns.
So maybe you should just be grateful that the 90% or so of us that have accepted the vaccine are helping to keep you currently enjoying your 'life as normal'

I hear you.....and in response to your 1st question I'm undecided. For the record, I am not anti vaccine....I've had many in my lifetime.

But back to the point, in my opinion there is a lot of herd immunity that has taken place over the last 18 months that does not fit with the narrative that we are fed.

We all know the world is not black and white. Equally, most understand that you can't always believe what you read. Every individual tends to pick up on a news story that fits their mindset narrative.

The fact that serious debate on this subject is, quite frankly, crushed, causes me concern. Why "crush" a thought process or alternative narrative that does not fit?

History has shown us that no debate = Totalitariasm. We are not there yet, thank god, let's see what tomorrow brings. :bluebird:
Not a shred of evidence exists in favour of the idea that life is serious........
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Postby skidemin » Sun Aug 29, 2021 11:37 am

Scoularite wrote:
by MR BIRCHGROVE » Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:03 am

TheHangedMan wrote:
I'm getting confused and would be grateful if a sharp mind with facts could enlighten me.

As I understand it:

1. A double jab does not stop me getting Covid.....but it does lessen the grief (but if I'm vulnerable I may still pass this mortal coil!).

2. A double jab does not stop me transmitting Covid (but we don't like to talk about that).

3. A double jab may not be sufficient to stop the 2 above (even though they stop nothing) so I may need a 3rd/4th/5th...to complete the non stopping!

4. If all of the above fail I'm likely to catch the latest variant (at present Covid 22 but that is still up for debate!)

Maybe it's better that we get on with life as normal and ignore the fearmongerers. :bluebird:

Shouldn't think too many people could argue against your four points above.

However, do you not think the vaccines are helping to reduce hospital admissions with the virus and subsequent deaths?

It's my guess that without the vaccines the British government leaders would already be considering further restrictions or even lockdowns.
So maybe you should just be grateful that the 90% or so of us that have accepted the vaccine are helping to keep you currently enjoying your 'life as normal'


Well, I'm who would argue -

Point 1 - Yes a "double jab" does not stop you from getting covid, but it does reduce the risk of serious illness and needing to go to hospital;

Point 2 - No, a "double jab" does not stop you from transmitting covid and it has been explained repeatedly across all forms of the media:

Point 3 - What is it saying??? Just repeating points 1 and 2;

Point 4 - Again, what is it saying???? Nothing and new variants are a risk to everyone.

But surprisingly no mention of long covid.



long covid.... people have long term effects of all illnesses infact the vast majority of covid deaths { died within 28 days of having a positive covid test } were already suffering long term effects of other illnesses.... yes shock people get ill and have long term effects..... live life mate ive seen people unreasonably terrified who have put their lives on hold then died of something nowt to do with covid.
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Postby Scoularite » Sun Aug 29, 2021 3:30 pm

by skidemin » Sun Aug 29, 2021 11:37 am

long covid.... people have long term effects of all illnesses infact the vast majority of covid deaths { died within 28 days of having a positive covid test } were already suffering long term effects of other illnesses.... yes shock people get ill and have long term effects..... live life mate ive seen people unreasonably terrified who have put their lives on hold then died of something nowt to do with covid.


Whilst it is true that people can have long-term effects such as flu, this has been known for years and there are treatments available. This is not the case with long covid and £19.6 million has been announced for new research into the diagnosis and treatment of long COVID.

The National Institute for Health Research (NIHR) is awarding almost £20 million to 15 research studies across Britain to improve the understanding of long COVID, from diagnosis and treatment through to rehabilitation and recovery.

The projects were funded following a UK-wide research call for ambitious and comprehensive research into understanding and addressing the longer-term physical and mental health effects of COVID-19 in non-hospitalised people.

Previous research from the NIHR and UK Research and Innovation show that up to one in three people diagnosed with Covid continue to experience chronic symptoms for months after their initial diagnosis. (Professor Fergus Gleeson, CMO of NCIMI).

However, I was totally unaware that "the vast majority of covid deaths were already suffering long term effects of other illnesses" so perhaps you could share your source of information with us.
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Postby MR BIRCHGROVE » Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:14 pm

Some still question the belief I have that the vaccines are helping to reduce hospital admissions and more importantly, resulting death from Covid.
Checking on stats produced by Public Health England; back in January 2021, just as the vaccine rollouts were underway at the height of the second wave, the approximate average of daily people testing positive was 60,000, with average daily deaths peaking around 1,285 per day.
Recent figures suggest that around mid-July 2021 the average daily people testing positive peaked around 46,000, which dipped later in the month, but currently averages around 34,000 per day. However, the daily deaths have only just reached around 112.

Just for one minute, forget the constant 'unbalanced' negative media reporting about the pandemic I am always being quoted by the doubters; or even the possibility that 'herd immunity' is playing its part reducing the deaths somehow. (Despite the fact that large numbers continue to test positive)

Surely, these sorts of stats go a long way to prove the value of the coronavirus vaccines.
I tried to seek a balanced mindset to the effects of the vaccines against hospitalisation and death in the early days of its rollout, but there comes a time to make up your mind!
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Re: UPDATED DAILY : UK CORONAVIRUS - UPDATED 30/08/21

Postby TopCat CCFC » Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:14 am

Covid cases reach highest level in Wales since January -

The highest number of coronavirus cases have been recorded in Wales since 5 January.

Latest figures from Public Health Wales showed there were 2,357 new cases in the 24 hours to Friday and three deaths.

The figure is just short of the 2,383 recorded earlier this year but the number of deaths is down compared to 40.

Since the pandemic began, there have been 274,390 cases and 5,671 deaths.

First Minister Nicola Sturgeon is self-isolating -

Scotland's first minister is self-isolating after being identified as a close contact of someone who has tested positive for Covid-19.

Nicola Sturgeon revealed on Twitter on Sunday evening that she had been notified by NHS Test and Protect.
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Re: UPDATED DAILY : UK CORONAVIRUS - UPDATED 27/08/21

Postby Bluebina » Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:55 am

MR BIRCHGROVE wrote:With Covid infection rates currently constantly increasing gradually, wait until the kids are back in school in Wales.
That's when it will all kick off again with the Welsh government placing restrictions.
You only have to check out Scotland's increasing infections this week as their kids had already returned.
Will it be regional lockdowns, certain entertainment or hospitality closures or will they introduce vaccine passports for entry to certain places along with all foreign travel?



It's going to fly over the next few weeks, no more isolation when you come into contact with people with the virus, all the tourist places Tenby etc more than packed, festivals, night clubs, football away weekends, stag and hen do's and then the kids gong back to school and students transferring it all over the UK a they arrive for one massive piss up.

Still we are going to have to live with it and thankfully deaths are percentage wise extremely low, hopefully Drakeford can hold his nerve!
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Postby TopCat CCFC » Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:06 pm

Covid in Wales: Ministers consider U-turn on private travel tests -

A ban on travellers using private Covid tests when returning from abroad could be scrapped by the Welsh government.

Rules say travellers from Wales should use NHS tests, costing £68 each, when going abroad or face a £1,000 fine.

First Minister Mark Drakeford had said in July he had "no plans" to change Wales' preferred approach of using NHS tests as the Welsh government was advising against foreign travel.

But a Welsh government spokesman has said the policy is now being reviewed.

The statement followed a BBC Wales investigation that found Welsh travellers had been able to use private PCR tests without facing any repercussions.

Wales is now the only UK nation requiring those who have been abroad to use NHS PCR tests on day two of their return - and day eight if unvaccinated - at a cost of £68 each.
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Re: UPDATED DAILY : UK CORONAVIRUS - UPDATED 02/09/21

Postby TopCat CCFC » Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:46 am

Scots to need vaccine passports for large events -

Vaccine passports are to be required for entry to nightclubs and many large events in Scotland from later this month, Nicola Sturgeon has said.

The plans will apply to indoor and outdoor events, and will need to be signed off by MSPs next week.

Ms Sturgeon said the move was needed to help stem the recent surge in the number of cases.

A further 6,107 people have tested positive, with the number of people in hospital doubling in the past 10 days.

And several areas of Scotland are among the regions with the highest rates of the virus in Europe.

The new vaccine certification rules mean people over the age of 18 will need to show they have had both doses of the vaccine before they are allowed entry to:

Nightclubs and adult entertainment venues.

Unseated indoor live events, with more than 500 people in the audience.

Unseated outdoor live events, with more than 4,000 people in the audience.

Any event, of any nature, which has more than 10,000 people in attendance.

The new rules will impact on many sporting events in Scotland - particularly football matches - as well as concerts and music festivals.
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