Fri Sep 03, 2021 11:06 pm
Sun Sep 05, 2021 11:21 pm
TheHangedMan wrote:I'm getting confused and would be grateful if a sharp mind with facts could enlighten me.
As I understand it:
1. A double jab does not stop me getting Covid.....but it does lessen the grief (but if I'm vulnerable I may still pass this mortal coil!).
2. A double jab does not stop me transmitting Covid (but we don't like to talk about that).
3. A double jab may not be sufficient to stop the 2 above (even though they stop nothing) so I may need a 3rd/4th/5th...to complete the non stopping!
4. If all of the above fail I'm likely to catch the latest variant (at present Covid 22 but that is still up for debate!)
Maybe it's better that we get on with life as normal and ignore the fearmongerers.
Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:55 pm
TheHangedMan wrote:I'm getting confused and would be grateful if a sharp mind with facts could enlighten me.
As I understand it:
1. A double jab does not stop me getting Covid.....but it does lessen the grief (but if I'm vulnerable I may still pass this mortal coil!).
2. A double jab does not stop me transmitting Covid (but we don't like to talk about that).
3. A double jab may not be sufficient to stop the 2 above (even though they stop nothing) so I may need a 3rd/4th/5th...to complete the non stopping!
4. If all of the above fail I'm likely to catch the latest variant (at present Covid 22 but that is still up for debate!)
Maybe it's better that we get on with life as normal and ignore the fearmongerers.
Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:30 pm
maccydee wrote:TheHangedMan wrote:I'm getting confused and would be grateful if a sharp mind with facts could enlighten me.
As I understand it:
1. A double jab does not stop me getting Covid.....but it does lessen the grief (but if I'm vulnerable I may still pass this mortal coil!).
2. A double jab does not stop me transmitting Covid (but we don't like to talk about that).
3. A double jab may not be sufficient to stop the 2 above (even though they stop nothing) so I may need a 3rd/4th/5th...to complete the non stopping!
4. If all of the above fail I'm likely to catch the latest variant (at present Covid 22 but that is still up for debate!)
Maybe it's better that we get on with life as normal and ignore the fearmongerers.
Reduces severity of illness, reduces chances of catching, reduces chances of transmitting.
That’s all vaccines do. Can’t remove it fully.
The Delta is so virulent it’s needed.
Mon Sep 06, 2021 3:49 pm
TheHangedMan wrote:maccydee wrote:TheHangedMan wrote:I'm getting confused and would be grateful if a sharp mind with facts could enlighten me.
As I understand it:
1. A double jab does not stop me getting Covid.....but it does lessen the grief (but if I'm vulnerable I may still pass this mortal coil!).
2. A double jab does not stop me transmitting Covid (but we don't like to talk about that).
3. A double jab may not be sufficient to stop the 2 above (even though they stop nothing) so I may need a 3rd/4th/5th...to complete the non stopping!
4. If all of the above fail I'm likely to catch the latest variant (at present Covid 22 but that is still up for debate!)
Maybe it's better that we get on with life as normal and ignore the fearmongerers.
Reduces severity of illness, reduces chances of catching, reduces chances of transmitting.
That’s all vaccines do. Can’t remove it fully.
The Delta is so virulent it’s needed.
I did actually state "a sharp mind", which makes me surprised that you, of all people, have responded.
On a side note, do you work for the Government, civil service or NHS?
Mon Sep 06, 2021 4:35 pm
maccydee wrote:TheHangedMan wrote:maccydee wrote:TheHangedMan wrote:I'm getting confused and would be grateful if a sharp mind with facts could enlighten me.
As I understand it:
1. A double jab does not stop me getting Covid.....but it does lessen the grief (but if I'm vulnerable I may still pass this mortal coil!).
2. A double jab does not stop me transmitting Covid (but we don't like to talk about that).
3. A double jab may not be sufficient to stop the 2 above (even though they stop nothing) so I may need a 3rd/4th/5th...to complete the non stopping!
4. If all of the above fail I'm likely to catch the latest variant (at present Covid 22 but that is still up for debate!)
Maybe it's better that we get on with life as normal and ignore the fearmongerers.
Reduces severity of illness, reduces chances of catching, reduces chances of transmitting.
That’s all vaccines do. Can’t remove it fully.
The Delta is so virulent it’s needed.
I did actually state "a sharp mind", which makes me surprised that you, of all people, have responded.
On a side note, do you work for the Government, civil service or NHS?
I mean you can’t face the fact that what I have stated is scientifically proven facts.
As for the sharp mind bollocks. A lion does not concern themselves with the opinion of sheep.
I agree with you regarding getting back to normal. Those that can have the jab who do not have the jab, I will regretfully read your stories of how you wish you had the vaccine after you end up in hospital with Covid. Those that can’t have the jab I really feel sorry for.
I don’t work for the government I work for The Queen. I volunteer as a vaccinator giving people the Covid jab as like you I want to get back to normal. Unlike you I don’t just flap my gums and prefer to try and do something to help to get there.
Mon Sep 06, 2021 5:09 pm
TheHangedMan wrote:maccydee wrote:TheHangedMan wrote:maccydee wrote:TheHangedMan wrote:I'm getting confused and would be grateful if a sharp mind with facts could enlighten me.
As I understand it:
1. A double jab does not stop me getting Covid.....but it does lessen the grief (but if I'm vulnerable I may still pass this mortal coil!).
2. A double jab does not stop me transmitting Covid (but we don't like to talk about that).
3. A double jab may not be sufficient to stop the 2 above (even though they stop nothing) so I may need a 3rd/4th/5th...to complete the non stopping!
4. If all of the above fail I'm likely to catch the latest variant (at present Covid 22 but that is still up for debate!)
Maybe it's better that we get on with life as normal and ignore the fearmongerers.
Reduces severity of illness, reduces chances of catching, reduces chances of transmitting.
That’s all vaccines do. Can’t remove it fully.
The Delta is so virulent it’s needed.
I did actually state "a sharp mind", which makes me surprised that you, of all people, have responded.
On a side note, do you work for the Government, civil service or NHS?
I mean you can’t face the fact that what I have stated is scientifically proven facts.
As for the sharp mind bollocks. A lion does not concern themselves with the opinion of sheep.
I agree with you regarding getting back to normal. Those that can have the jab who do not have the jab, I will regretfully read your stories of how you wish you had the vaccine after you end up in hospital with Covid. Those that can’t have the jab I really feel sorry for.
I don’t work for the government I work for The Queen. I volunteer as a vaccinator giving people the Covid jab as like you I want to get back to normal. Unlike you I don’t just flap my gums and prefer to try and do something to help to get there.
I will respond to your comments Mac (I hope you don't mind me calling you Mac btw?) on a line by line basis. Subsequently I will add my view on why people like you are causing more trouble than they are fixing.
Points 1, 2 and 3 are stating scientific facts......when I reached point 4 I was trying to make people think for themselves, which is now obviously a crime.
On your Lion point.......I'm glad you feel superior to us thinkers who wilt in the corner, or maybe we won't.
As for the rest of your fluff......we have different opinions. You think you are a needle warrior and all that is good comes out of your thumb pressure. I disagree and believe that you are causing more harm than you think you are fixing.
But hey ho........at least on this board we can differ in our opinions.......on YouTube we would have both been shut down a long time ago.
Mon Sep 06, 2021 6:53 pm
maccydee wrote:
Causing more harm than good by vaccinating people? How in any world is that true?
You sound like an anti vaxxer there which is very dangerous type of sheep.
Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:19 pm
Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:32 pm
Canton Kev wrote:TheHangedMan wrote:I'm getting confused and would be grateful if a sharp mind with facts could enlighten me.
As I understand it:
1. A double jab does not stop me getting Covid.....but it does lessen the grief (but if I'm vulnerable I may still pass this mortal coil!).
2. A double jab does not stop me transmitting Covid (but we don't like to talk about that).
3. A double jab may not be sufficient to stop the 2 above (even though they stop nothing) so I may need a 3rd/4th/5th...to complete the non stopping!
4. If all of the above fail I'm likely to catch the latest variant (at present Covid 22 but that is still up for debate!)
Maybe it's better that we get on with life as normal and ignore the fearmongerers.
Do you wear a seatbelt when you;re driving?
A seatbelt doesn't stop you getting into a crash but severely lessens your chance of dying. And a seatbelt doesn't stop other drivers around you getting into crashes but can help you if they do.
Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:37 pm
TheHangedMan wrote:maccydee wrote:
Causing more harm than good by vaccinating people? How in any world is that true?
You sound like an anti vaxxer there which is very dangerous type of sheep.
If you have taken the time Mac, to read my previous posts, you will understand that I have had many vaccines in my lifetime.
When my parents, or I when I came of age, made those decisions, it was in the full knowledge that the drug had been tested, and worst case scenario we were indemnified. I did not feel like a guinea pig in an experimental stage of medicine.
So let me tell you how "in any world is that true". Just because the pharma companies, and then your Govt., and then scared older people, and then biased media, and then keyboard warriors tell you something is right........it may not be.
I will queue up for the jab, the 1st in line, when the pharma company indemnifies my family if something goes wrong. In the interim I will trust my own immune system.
Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:44 pm
Canton Kev wrote:Canton Kev wrote:TheHangedMan wrote:I'm getting confused and would be grateful if a sharp mind with facts could enlighten me.
As I understand it:
1. A double jab does not stop me getting Covid.....but it does lessen the grief (but if I'm vulnerable I may still pass this mortal coil!).
2. A double jab does not stop me transmitting Covid (but we don't like to talk about that).
3. A double jab may not be sufficient to stop the 2 above (even though they stop nothing) so I may need a 3rd/4th/5th...to complete the non stopping!
4. If all of the above fail I'm likely to catch the latest variant (at present Covid 22 but that is still up for debate!)
Maybe it's better that we get on with life as normal and ignore the fearmongerers.
Do you wear a seatbelt when you;re driving?
A seatbelt doesn't stop you getting into a crash but severely lessens your chance of dying. And a seatbelt doesn't stop other drivers around you getting into crashes but can help you if they do.
Well?
Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:51 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Canton Kev wrote:Canton Kev wrote:TheHangedMan wrote:I'm getting confused and would be grateful if a sharp mind with facts could enlighten me.
As I understand it:
1. A double jab does not stop me getting Covid.....but it does lessen the grief (but if I'm vulnerable I may still pass this mortal coil!).
2. A double jab does not stop me transmitting Covid (but we don't like to talk about that).
3. A double jab may not be sufficient to stop the 2 above (even though they stop nothing) so I may need a 3rd/4th/5th...to complete the non stopping!
4. If all of the above fail I'm likely to catch the latest variant (at present Covid 22 but that is still up for debate!)
Maybe it's better that we get on with life as normal and ignore the fearmongerers.
Do you wear a seatbelt when you;re driving?
A seatbelt doesn't stop you getting into a crash but severely lessens your chance of dying. And a seatbelt doesn't stop other drivers around you getting into crashes but can help you if they do.
Well?
In other words the vaccine is a total waste of billions of ££££££s and is just an excuse to fill the pockets of pharmaceutical companies... and despite what the figures tell people about having the vaccine that is just a load of bollocks and lies to make the government look good to the electorate ... mind you bit like Brexit there are millions of very gullible people in uk who fallen for
the government spin on covid and its dangers and are taken in by the lies and untruths their told
Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:04 pm
by TheHangedMan » Mon Sep 06, 2021 7:53 pm
maccydee wrote:
Causing more harm than good by vaccinating people? How in any world is that true?
You sound like an anti vaxxer there which is very dangerous type of sheep.
If you have taken the time Mac, to read my previous posts, you will understand that I have had many vaccines in my lifetime.
When my parents, or I when I came of age, made those decisions, it was in the full knowledge that the drug had been tested, and worst case scenario we were indemnified. I did not feel like a guinea pig in an experimental stage of medicine.
So let me tell you how "in any world is that true". Just because the pharma companies, and then your Govt., and then scared older people, and then biased media, and then keyboard warriors tell you something is right........it may not be.
I will queue up for the jab, the 1st in line, when the pharma company indemnifies my family if something goes wrong. In the interim I will trust my own immune system.
Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:36 am
Vaccine Damage Payment
Eligibility
You could get a payment if you’re severely disabled and your disability was caused by vaccination against any of the following diseases:
coronavirus (COVID-19)
diphtheria
haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib)
human papillomavirus
influenza, except for influenza caused by a pandemic influenza virus
measles
meningococcal group B (meningitis B)
meningococcal group C (meningitis C)
meningococcal group W (meningitis W)
mumps
pandemic influenza A (H1N1) 2009 (swine flu) - up to 31 August 2010
pertussis (whooping cough)
pneumococcal infection
poliomyelitis
rotavirus
rubella (German measles)
smallpox - up to 1 August 1971
tetanus
tuberculosis (TB)
What counts as ‘severely disabled’
Disablement is worked out as a percentage, and ‘severe disablement’ means at least 60% disabled.
This could be a mental or physical disablement and will be based on medical evidence from the doctors or hospitals involved in your treatment.
Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:31 pm
maccydee wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Canton Kev wrote:Canton Kev wrote:TheHangedMan wrote:I'm getting confused and would be grateful if a sharp mind with facts could enlighten me.
As I understand it:
1. A double jab does not stop me getting Covid.....but it does lessen the grief (but if I'm vulnerable I may still pass this mortal coil!).
2. A double jab does not stop me transmitting Covid (but we don't like to talk about that).
3. A double jab may not be sufficient to stop the 2 above (even though they stop nothing) so I may need a 3rd/4th/5th...to complete the non stopping!
4. If all of the above fail I'm likely to catch the latest variant (at present Covid 22 but that is still up for debate!)
Maybe it's better that we get on with life as normal and ignore the fearmongerers.
Do you wear a seatbelt when you;re driving?
A seatbelt doesn't stop you getting into a crash but severely lessens your chance of dying. And a seatbelt doesn't stop other drivers around you getting into crashes but can help you if they do.
Well?
In other words the vaccine is a total waste of billions of ££££££s and is just an excuse to fill the pockets of pharmaceutical companies... and despite what the figures tell people about having the vaccine that is just a load of bollocks and lies to make the government look good to the electorate ... mind you bit like Brexit there are millions of very gullible people in uk who fallen for
the government spin on covid and its dangers and are taken in by the lies and untruths their told
Do you really believe that?
Wed Sep 08, 2021 8:02 am
Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:58 am
Sven wrote:The Government is reported to be considering a firebreak lockdown in October, falling over the half-term, in a bid to bring coronavirus infections under control.
While the vaccine has resulted in many fewer deaths, and a lower rate of hospitalisations, the number of infections is much higher than at this time last year - when the UK went into another lockdown.
Deaths and hospitalisations are rising - with the weekly death rate just announced as being at a five-month high.
Wed Sep 08, 2021 10:35 am
Bakedalasker wrote:Sven wrote:The Government is reported to be considering a firebreak lockdown in October, falling over the half-term, in a bid to bring coronavirus infections under control.
While the vaccine has resulted in many fewer deaths, and a lower rate of hospitalisations, the number of infections is much higher than at this time last year - when the UK went into another lockdown.
Deaths and hospitalisations are rising - with the weekly death rate just announced as being at a five-month high.
Yeah just read that and comes as no surprise to me.
We are just not getting it right but then again what is right. I read an article well back in the beginning where it was said we would need to be in lockdown for 2 years before we can manage the virus. I thing most readers of that article lost interest when that was written. The article went on to say even if we get it down to a manageable stage the chances of the Virus getting the upper hand again would be very high. It does not make for comfortable reading.
I can see us living in a world of Lockdown I really can. Well until we have a vaccine that kills the Virus off for good.
Wed Sep 08, 2021 11:02 am
by maccydee » Wed Sep 08, 2021 10:35 am
Bakedalasker wrote:
Sven wrote:
The Government is reported to be considering a firebreak lockdown in October, falling over the half-term, in a bid to bring coronavirus infections under control.
While the vaccine has resulted in many fewer deaths, and a lower rate of hospitalisations, the number of infections is much higher than at this time last year - when the UK went into another lockdown.
Deaths and hospitalisations are rising - with the weekly death rate just announced as being at a five-month high.
Yeah just read that and comes as no surprise to me.
We are just not getting it right but then again what is right. I read an article well back in the beginning where it was said we would need to be in lockdown for 2 years before we can manage the virus. I thing most readers of that article lost interest when that was written. The article went on to say even if we get it down to a manageable stage the chances of the Virus getting the upper hand again would be very high. It does not make for comfortable reading.
I can see us living in a world of Lockdown I really can. Well until we have a vaccine that kills the Virus off for good.
There will never be a vaccine that kills it off for good. Best we can hope for is to manage it with current vaccines and hope they stop the pressure on the NHS which they seem to be doing at present.
Without vaccines they delta variant would have ripped through this country and there would have been a lot more deaths etc.
Wed Sep 08, 2021 11:38 am
Bakedalasker wrote:Sven wrote:The Government is reported to be considering a firebreak lockdown in October, falling over the half-term, in a bid to bring coronavirus infections under control.
While the vaccine has resulted in many fewer deaths, and a lower rate of hospitalisations, the number of infections is much higher than at this time last year - when the UK went into another lockdown.
Deaths and hospitalisations are rising - with the weekly death rate just announced as being at a five-month high.
Yeah just read that and comes as no surprise to me.
We are just not getting it right but then again what is right. I read an article well back in the beginning where it was said we would need to be in lockdown for 2 years before we can manage the virus. I thing most readers of that article lost interest when that was written. The article went on to say even if we get it down to a manageable stage the chances of the Virus getting the upper hand again would be very high. It does not make for comfortable reading.
I can see us living in a world of Lockdown I really can. Well until we have a vaccine that kills the Virus off for good.
Wed Sep 08, 2021 11:09 pm
Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:36 am
Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:12 am
Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:33 pm
Sun Sep 12, 2021 10:27 pm
C. Rombie-Coat wrote:Expanation of how MRNA jabs cause blood claots.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/acTDRAych9LP/
Frightening.
Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:06 pm
Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:47 am
Tue Sep 14, 2021 5:06 pm
Tue Sep 14, 2021 5:24 pm
MR BIRCHGROVE wrote:According to the ONS figures released yesterday, just 59 people who were healthy before contracting coronavirus of the 51,289 that died in 2021 in UK up to July, were double vaccinated. The UK government briefing earlier today showed a similar continuation of this pattern throughout the summer months.
During the early days of the second lockdown, a few anti-covid vax people frequently criticized the government policies on lockdowns etc preventing people from attending hospitals for treatments of other serious medical issues.
Perhaps those same people might consider the fact that the majority of those taking up hospital beds and dying from covid in recent months and taking up valuable NHS resources in our hospitals are the unvaccinated.