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Postby pembroke allan » Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:09 am

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TopCat CCFC wrote:Covid vaccine: No guarantees on Pfizer roll-out but NHS ready - Hancock

The NHS will be ready from December to roll out the new coronavirus vaccine if it gets approved, Health Secretary Matt Hancock has said.

Mr Hancock told MPs the news about the vaccine was an important step but "there are no guarantees".

He also said "we don't know" how many people will need to be vaccinated in order for life to return to normal.

And he announced that, from Tuesday, NHS staff will begin being tested twice a week.

It comes as a further 20,412 coronavirus cases were reported in the UK on Tuesday, with another 532 deaths within 28 days of a positive test recorded.



Tony the figures WG and Westminster use are so unreliable ! As I posted earlier excess deaths are 30k+ between march/July but covid related deaths are 2600 but that doesn't mean actually dying of covid though...
The majority of deaths in Wales ar moment are from people catching covid while in hospital which is scary to say least! Here in pembs only 3 people are in hospital with covid as far as aware so best move here? :D


Agree with you allan - These figs have been all over the place since late June mate .
Figs added - Figs taken off - " Numbers Thearter " - Was the call at the time :roll:
We should get the result of the " Firebreak " later this week or next from the WG .
Will wait and see before i go on - Right Move to a move to the Pembs ;)



Forgot to say the difference in excess deaths and covid is caused by people dying from delayed treatment for cancer heart ect ect......here in Wales as many people have died from excess cancer deaths as have of covid related deaths so the figures for other illnesses must be staggering :shock:
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Postby alexc » Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:19 pm

All the deniers, go watch someone die from Covid
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Re: UPDATED DAILY : UK CORONAVIRUS - UPDATED 12/11/20

Postby bluesince62 » Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:33 pm

alexc wrote:All the deniers, go watch someone die from Covid



Stupid and insensitive post.we know people are dying,what we are doubting are the figures!!they are misleading at best,twisted deliberately at worst.
Nobody is denying covid exists!
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Re: UPDATED DAILY : UK CORONAVIRUS - UPDATED 12/11/20

Postby alexc » Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:58 pm

bluesince62 wrote:
alexc wrote:All the deniers, go watch someone die from Covid



Stupid and insensitive post.we know people are dying,what we are doubting are the figures!!they are misleading at best,twisted deliberately at worst.
Nobody is denying covid exists!


You are trying to say that the deaths are less than reported and to what end?
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Re: UPDATED DAILY : UK CORONAVIRUS - UPDATED 12/11/20

Postby alexc » Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:03 pm

I live in the US and we are 10th in the world at deaths per million population.
There are 150+ countries in the world doing better than the US at managing the outbreak.
The UK is not in the top 10.
There is no mass world conspiracy to increase the number of deaths.
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Re: UPDATED DAILY : UK CORONAVIRUS - UPDATED 12/11/20

Postby Welshman in CA » Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:11 pm

The wife's parents tested positive yesterday. They were already in quarantine when they returned early from Colorado last week as her sister they were visiting tested positive after having a halloween party the day before they arrived, genius that she is.
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Re: UPDATED DAILY : UK CORONAVIRUS - UPDATED 12/11/20

Postby pembroke allan » Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:28 pm

alexc wrote:
bluesince62 wrote:
alexc wrote:All the deniers, go watch someone die from Covid



Stupid and insensitive post.we know people are dying,what we are doubting are the figures!!they are misleading at best,twisted deliberately at worst.
Nobody is denying covid exists!


You are trying to say that the deaths are less than reported and to what end?




UK government been using excess deaths from 5yr period to measuring deaths from covid! Yesterday reported from March to july was 30k+ excess deaths of which 1600 had covid put on certificate but not as main cause of deaths.. on that basis how do they get 50k deaths from covid ? Dying with covid is not same as dying from covid is it? So point being made is how accurate are the figures if they are counting people with virus as dying of it when in fact they died of cancer ect ect.. or do you trust politicians explicitly? :o
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Postby alexc » Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:17 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
alexc wrote:
bluesince62 wrote:
alexc wrote:All the deniers, go watch someone die from Covid



Stupid and insensitive post.we know people are dying,what we are doubting are the figures!!they are misleading at best,twisted deliberately at worst.
Nobody is denying covid exists!


You are trying to say that the deaths are less than reported and to what end?




UK government been using excess deaths from 5yr period to measuring deaths from covid! Yesterday reported from March to july was 30k+ excess deaths of which 1600 had covid put on certificate but not as main cause of deaths.. on that basis how do they get 50k deaths from covid ? Dying with covid is not same as dying from covid is it? So point being made is how accurate are the figures if they are counting people with virus as dying of it when in fact they died of cancer ect ect.. or do you trust politicians explicitly? :o


So all the countries of the world are inflating the numbers?
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Re: UPDATED DAILY : UK CORONAVIRUS - UPDATED 12/11/20

Postby A Quiet Monkfish » Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:26 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
alexc wrote:
bluesince62 wrote:
alexc wrote:All the deniers, go watch someone die from Covid



Stupid and insensitive post.we know people are dying,what we are doubting are the figures!!they are misleading at best,twisted deliberately at worst.
Nobody is denying covid exists!


You are trying to say that the deaths are less than reported and to what end?




UK government been using excess deaths from 5yr period to measuring deaths from covid! Yesterday reported from March to july was 30k+ excess deaths of which 1600 had covid put on certificate but not as main cause of deaths.. on that basis how do they get 50k deaths from covid ? Dying with covid is not same as dying from covid is it? So point being made is how accurate are the figures if they are counting people with virus as dying of it when in fact they died of cancer ect ect.. or do you trust politicians explicitly? :o



33,740 new cases today. The more tests that are carried out, the more cases identified. Rocket science it ain't..
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Re: UPDATED DAILY : UK CORONAVIRUS - UPDATED 12/11/20

Postby alexc » Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:33 pm

A Quiet Monkfish wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
alexc wrote:
bluesince62 wrote:
alexc wrote:All the deniers, go watch someone die from Covid



Stupid and insensitive post.we know people are dying,what we are doubting are the figures!!they are misleading at best,twisted deliberately at worst.
Nobody is denying covid exists!


You are trying to say that the deaths are less than reported and to what end?




UK government been using excess deaths from 5yr period to measuring deaths from covid! Yesterday reported from March to july was 30k+ excess deaths of which 1600 had covid put on certificate but not as main cause of deaths.. on that basis how do they get 50k deaths from covid ? Dying with covid is not same as dying from covid is it? So point being made is how accurate are the figures if they are counting people with virus as dying of it when in fact they died of cancer ect ect.. or do you trust politicians explicitly? :o



33,740 new cases today. The more tests that are carried out, the more cases identified. Rocket science it ain't..


More tests happening because more people feel sick.... duh!
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Re: UPDATED DAILY : UK CORONAVIRUS - UPDATED 12/11/20

Postby bluesince62 » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:10 pm

alexc wrote:
A Quiet Monkfish wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
alexc wrote:
bluesince62 wrote:
alexc wrote:All the deniers, go watch someone die from Covid



Stupid and insensitive post.we know people are dying,what we are doubting are the figures!!they are misleading at best,twisted deliberately at worst.
Nobody is denying covid exists!


You are trying to say that the deaths are less than reported and to what end?




UK government been using excess deaths from 5yr period to measuring deaths from covid! Yesterday reported from March to july was 30k+ excess deaths of which 1600 had covid put on certificate but not as main cause of deaths.. on that basis how do they get 50k deaths from covid ? Dying with covid is not same as dying from covid is it? So point being made is how accurate are the figures if they are counting people with virus as dying of it when in fact they died of cancer ect ect.. or do you trust politicians explicitly? :o



33,740 new cases today. The more tests that are carried out, the more cases identified. Rocket science it ain't..


More tests happening because more people feel sick.... duh!



So everyone being tested in liverpool feel sick is it?? Duh indeed.
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Re: UPDATED DAILY : UK CORONAVIRUS - UPDATED 12/11/20

Postby alexc » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:17 pm

bluesince62 wrote:
alexc wrote:
A Quiet Monkfish wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
alexc wrote:
bluesince62 wrote:
alexc wrote:All the deniers, go watch someone die from Covid



Stupid and insensitive post.we know people are dying,what we are doubting are the figures!!they are misleading at best,twisted deliberately at worst.
Nobody is denying covid exists!


You are trying to say that the deaths are less than reported and to what end?




UK government been using excess deaths from 5yr period to measuring deaths from covid! Yesterday reported from March to july was 30k+ excess deaths of which 1600 had covid put on certificate but not as main cause of deaths.. on that basis how do they get 50k deaths from covid ? Dying with covid is not same as dying from covid is it? So point being made is how accurate are the figures if they are counting people with virus as dying of it when in fact they died of cancer ect ect.. or do you trust politicians explicitly? :o



33,740 new cases today. The more tests that are carried out, the more cases identified. Rocket science it ain't..


More tests happening because more people feel sick.... duh!



So everyone being tested in liverpool feel sick is it?? Duh indeed.


Liverpool? Open your mind, the world is a big place.
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Re: UPDATED DAILY : UK CORONAVIRUS - UPDATED 12/11/20

Postby TopCat CCFC » Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:06 pm

Covid: UK reports jump in daily cases in new record -

A record 33,470 cases of coronavirus have been confirmed in the UK in the past day, official data shows.

It is the highest daily figure since mass testing began in the UK, and brings the total number of cases to more than 1.29 million.

The number of virus tests conducted across the UK has steadily increased in recent weeks.

On Wednesday the UK became the first country in Europe to pass 50,000 Covid deaths.
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Re: UPDATED DAILY : UK CORONAVIRUS - UPDATED 12/11/20

Postby skidemin » Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:26 am

alexc wrote:
A Quiet Monkfish wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
alexc wrote:
bluesince62 wrote:
alexc wrote:All the deniers, go watch someone die from Covid



Stupid and insensitive post.we know people are dying,what we are doubting are the figures!!they are misleading at best,twisted deliberately at worst.
Nobody is denying covid exists!


You are trying to say that the deaths are less than reported and to what end?




UK government been using excess deaths from 5yr period to measuring deaths from covid! Yesterday reported from March to july was 30k+ excess deaths of which 1600 had covid put on certificate but not as main cause of deaths.. on that basis how do they get 50k deaths from covid ? Dying with covid is not same as dying from covid is it? So point being made is how accurate are the figures if they are counting people with virus as dying of it when in fact they died of cancer ect ect.. or do you trust politicians explicitly? :o



33,740 new cases today. The more tests that are carried out, the more cases identified. Rocket science it ain't..


More tests happening because more people feel sick.... duh!



duh ? :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5:
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Re: UPDATED DAILY : UK CORONAVIRUS - UPDATED 13/11/20

Postby pembroke allan » Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:04 am

More tests because more are available and quicker diagnosis? DUH....
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Postby skidemin » Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:25 pm

pembroke allan wrote:More tests because more are available and quicker diagnosis? DUH....



indeed mate... the UK has carried out 37 million tests..
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Re: UPDATED DAILY : UK CORONAVIRUS - UPDATED 14/11/20

Postby TopCat CCFC » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:13 am

What's been happening in the UK today?

The R number for the UK has fallen to between 1 and 1.2, the closest it's been to 1 since early September. It comes as the Office for National Statistics suggests the rate at which people are becoming infected with coronavirus in England is stabilising, according to the data up to 6 November

In Wales, rising infection levels are still continuing however and it is too early to say if they were stabilising in Scotland a week ago, when the most recent data is available for. In Northern Ireland, infection rates were levelling off, the ONS says

A scheme to help low income workers pay bills when self-isolating in Wales has been criticised after delays due to "practical challenges". From Monday, people will be able to claim £500 if they have to stay off work due to coronavirus. But workers in England and Scotland have had access to payments since October

And more than 50 partygoers at a Cardiff Metropolitan University student hall of residence have been fined for breaching Covid-19 rules by attending a party last Friday night
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Re: UPDATED DAILY : UK CORONAVIRUS - UPDATED 14/11/20

Postby Forever Blue » Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:16 am

UPDATED: Saturday 14th November 2020

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Re: UPDATED DAILY : UK CORONAVIRUS - UPDATED 15/11/20

Postby TopCat CCFC » Sun Nov 15, 2020 1:05 am

Most of the deaths have been among older people

The average age of people who have died with Covid is above 80 with more than nine in 10 of the deaths among the over 65s, according to Office for National Statistics analyses of the pandemic.

Deaths among the under 45s have been low - only a few hundred have been seen, including six children under the age of 14.
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Re: UPDATED DAILY : UK CORONAVIRUS - UPDATED 15/11/20

Postby pembroke allan » Sun Nov 15, 2020 1:29 am

5k extra deaths from heart disease from march to oct?
The BHF analysed mortality data in England between the start of the first national lockdown on 20 March and 30 October. It found 73,799 cases where heart or circulatory disease was named as the underlying cause of death. That is 4,785 higher than the number projected by Public Health England over the same time period.In around a quarter of the additional or excess cases, Covid-19 was mentioned on the death certificate, suggesting that in the majority of cases other factors were to blame.
Makes you wonder what the true covid deaths figures are with so many extra deaths from illnesses other than covid are mentioned on death certificates ? Strange that deaths are from covid if someone is diagnosed with covid yet deaths are not from another illness if its diagnosed? Must remember excess deaths is way gvmnt measures covid deaths so are they over estimating covid deaths at expense of heart... cancer deaths :shock:
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Postby skidemin » Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:18 pm

TopCat CCFC wrote:Most of the deaths have been among older people

The average age of people who have died with Covid is above 80 with more than nine in 10 of the deaths among the over 65s, according to Office for National Statistics analyses of the pandemic.

Deaths among the under 45s have been low - only a few hundred have been seen, including six children under the age of 14.




these figures regarding ages have been exactly the same percentages in every country including China long before it ever came to Europe....
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Re: UPDATED DAILY : UK CORONAVIRUS - UPDATED 15/11/20

Postby stickywicket » Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:20 pm

Coronavirus may have been present in Italy as early as December, according to the country's National Institute for Health (ISS).

The virus was found in samples of sewage water in Milan and Turin, the institute said in a new report.

ISS researchers analysed 40 samples of wastewater collected from October 2019 to February 2020, and compared them to 24 control samples from September 2018 through June 2019.

The virus that causes COVID-19 was present in samples from Milan and Turin on December 18 and in Bologna on January 29. The samples were analysed in two different laboratories with two separate methods, the institute said.
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Re: UPDATED DAILY : UK CORONAVIRUS - UPDATED 12/11/20

Postby bluesince62 » Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:22 am

alexc wrote:
bluesince62 wrote:
alexc wrote:
A Quiet Monkfish wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
alexc wrote:
bluesince62 wrote:
alexc wrote:All the deniers, go watch someone die from Covid



Stupid and insensitive post.we know people are dying,what we are doubting are the figures!!they are misleading at best,twisted deliberately at worst.
Nobody is denying covid exists!


You are trying to say that the deaths are less than reported and to what end?




UK government been using excess deaths from 5yr period to measuring deaths from covid! Yesterday reported from March to july was 30k+ excess deaths of which 1600 had covid put on certificate but not as main cause of deaths.. on that basis how do they get 50k deaths from covid ? Dying with covid is not same as dying from covid is it? So point being made is how accurate are the figures if they are counting people with virus as dying of it when in fact they died of cancer ect ect.. or do you trust politicians explicitly? :o



33,740 new cases today. The more tests that are carried out, the more cases identified. Rocket science it ain't..


More tests happening because more people feel sick.... duh!



So everyone being tested in liverpool feel sick is it?? Duh indeed.


Liverpool? Open your mind, the world is a big place.



You don't say :roll: but we are talking new cases in the uk,not the world,so considering close to a million people live in Liverpool, they are likely to record more positive cases,as they wouldn't have necessarily needed or wanted a test,due to NOT feeling unwell? And if the tests were accurate at all,many of us wouldn't be questioning these figures,but they are not accurate enough,too many false positives,someone took four tests in one 24hr period,guess what? 2 positive results,and 2 negative!! :old: :bluebird:
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Re: UPDATED DAILY : UK CORONAVIRUS - UPDATED 12/11/20

Postby bluesince62 » Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:23 am

bluesince62 wrote:
alexc wrote:
bluesince62 wrote:
alexc wrote:
A Quiet Monkfish wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
alexc wrote:
bluesince62 wrote:
alexc wrote:All the deniers, go watch someone die from Covid



Stupid and insensitive post.we know people are dying,what we are doubting are the figures!!they are misleading at best,twisted deliberately at worst.
Nobody is denying covid exists!


You are trying to say that the deaths are less than reported and to what end?




UK government been using excess deaths from 5yr period to measuring deaths from covid! Yesterday reported from March to july was 30k+ excess deaths of which 1600 had covid put on certificate but not as main cause of deaths.. on that basis how do they get 50k deaths from covid ? Dying with covid is not same as dying from covid is it? So point being made is how accurate are the figures if they are counting people with virus as dying of it when in fact they died of cancer ect ect.. or do you trust politicians explicitly? :o



33,740 new cases today. The more tests that are carried out, the more cases identified. Rocket science it ain't..


More tests happening because more people feel sick.... duh!



So everyone being tested in liverpool feel sick is it?? Duh indeed.


Liverpool? Open your mind, the world is a big place.



You don't say :roll: but we are talking new cases in the uk,not the world,so considering close to a million people live in Liverpool, they are likely to record more positive cases,as they wouldn't have necessarily needed or wanted a test,due to NOT feeling unwell? And if the tests were accurate at all,many of us wouldn't be questioning these figures,but they are not accurate enough,too many false positives,someone took four tests in one 24hr period,guess what? 2 positive results,and 2 negative!! :old: :bluebird:



And that person was Elon musk (in case you wanted to know)
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Postby skidemin » Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:53 am

bluesince62 wrote:
alexc wrote:
bluesince62 wrote:
alexc wrote:
A Quiet Monkfish wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
alexc wrote:
bluesince62 wrote:
alexc wrote:All the deniers, go watch someone die from Covid



Stupid and insensitive post.we know people are dying,what we are doubting are the figures!!they are misleading at best,twisted deliberately at worst.
Nobody is denying covid exists!


You are trying to say that the deaths are less than reported and to what end?




UK government been using excess deaths from 5yr period to measuring deaths from covid! Yesterday reported from March to july was 30k+ excess deaths of which 1600 had covid put on certificate but not as main cause of deaths.. on that basis how do they get 50k deaths from covid ? Dying with covid is not same as dying from covid is it? So point being made is how accurate are the figures if they are counting people with virus as dying of it when in fact they died of cancer ect ect.. or do you trust politicians explicitly? :o



33,740 new cases today. The more tests that are carried out, the more cases identified. Rocket science it ain't..


More tests happening because more people feel sick.... duh!



So everyone being tested in liverpool feel sick is it?? Duh indeed.


Liverpool? Open your mind, the world is a big place.



You don't say :roll: but we are talking new cases in the uk,not the world,so considering close to a million people live in Liverpool, they are likely to record more positive cases,as they wouldn't have necessarily needed or wanted a test,due to NOT feeling unwell? And if the tests were accurate at all,many of us wouldn't be questioning these figures,but they are not accurate enough,too many false positives,someone took four tests in one 24hr period,guess what? 2 positive results,and 2 negative!! :old: :bluebird:



surprising how many people are not grasping the vast majority of these positive tests are asymptomatic...its not something thats top secret ..
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Re: UPDATED DAILY : UK CORONAVIRUS - UPDATED 16/11/20

Postby TopCat CCFC » Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:40 pm

Moderna: Covid vaccine shows nearly 95% protection -

A new vaccine that protects against Covid-19 is nearly 95% effective, early data from US company Moderna shows.

The results come hot on the heels of similar results from Pfizer, and add to growing confidence that vaccines can help end the pandemic.

Both companies used a highly innovative and experimental approach to designing their vaccines.

Moderna says it is a "great day" and they plan to apply for approval to use the vaccine in the next few weeks.

However, this is still early data and key questions remain unanswered.
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Re: UPDATED DAILY : UK CORONAVIRUS - UPDATED 16/11/20

Postby stickywicket » Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:18 pm

TopCat CCFC wrote:Moderna: Covid vaccine shows nearly 95% protection -

A new vaccine that protects against Covid-19 is nearly 95% effective, early data from US company Moderna shows.

The results come hot on the heels of similar results from Pfizer, and add to growing confidence that vaccines can help end the pandemic.

Both companies used a highly innovative and experimental approach to designing their vaccines.

Moderna says it is a "great day" and they plan to apply for approval to use the vaccine in the next few weeks.

However, this is still early data and key questions remain unanswered.

I hope this comes a.s.a.p.We have seen my father in law who is in a mental health care home twice since March.
It's a f*cking disaster.He's 82 this year.Time is not our side.
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Re: UPDATED DAILY : UK CORONAVIRUS - UPDATED 16/11/20

Postby Forever Blue » Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:49 pm

UPDATED: Monday 16th November 2020

UK
Coronavirus Cases:
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Deaths:
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Re: UPDATED DAILY : UK CORONAVIRUS - UPDATED 16/11/20

Postby Forever Blue » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:01 pm

2,229 died in the UK last week of the virus :cry:
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Re: UPDATED DAILY : UK CORONAVIRUS - UPDATED 16/11/20

Postby glas » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:38 pm

Any vaccine should be given to care home residents first, then the care home staff. This will allow residents to have visitors asap.
It must be heart-breaking for these older vulnerable and mostly lonely people (many with dementia) not to see their families, and for their families not to see them. Just holding their hands (if they don't recognise the family member) is a massive comfort.
I know this is not a nice comment, but as these residents are nearing their end of life time, then there is much less worry of long term effects (if any ) of the vaccines. So there should be no complaints or arguing about the safety of the vaccines, as long as they are administered correctly by a competent person.
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