Something more to Covid-19?

im more puzzled by what happened in China regarding the virus mate,...one minute it looked out of control the next { well within a fortnight } the figures fell off a cliff.. they did lock down Wuhan but only after 5million people { the figure given by the mayor of Wuhan } had deserted the city..

You have to wonder what the Chinese mean by 5 million people deserting the City of Wuhan, as I can't see that many peasant workers having second homes by the seaside.

they were not peasants mate. its a modern city , it obviously has poor areas but its not your stereo typical idea of china. the 5 million having left is a pretty big admission ? that at the same time undermines the idea that the lockdown had this wonderous effect on the cases/deaths...

If not peasant workers they are certainly very low paid workers. The average Chinese factory worker earns around £200/300pm that is not stereotypical it is fact.

So where have 5 million people gone?

Video titled :-

I found the source of the outbreak
https://www.youtu.be/bpQFCcS10pU

The previous link is no longer working'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpQFCcSI0pU

Interesting!

The Ostrich head in the sand approach to the Coronavirus?

Turkmenistan Has Banned Use Of The Word 'Coronavirus'

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronaviru ... oronavirus

The week 13 European Mortality Monitoring figures are out and only show a slight increase, but some countries are showing a decline from the normal figures including Austria, Germany and Northern Ireland. The peaks are still much higher for the 2017, 2018 and 2019 winter periods, which may mean that a lot of those who have died will have done so anyway. Also, others who would have died through RTA's etc are not dying due to restrictions in travel etc. In the three countries with lower figures, the lower contact levels may have reduced levels of those with underlying conditions who would normally have died from flu and cold type viruses.

https://www.euromomo.eu/index.html

im more puzzled by what happened in China regarding the virus mate,...one minute it looked out of control the next { well within a fortnight } the figures fell off a cliff.. they did lock down Wuhan but only after 5million people { the figure given by the mayor of Wuhan } had deserted the city..

You have to wonder what the Chinese mean by 5 million people deserting the City of Wuhan, as I can't see that many peasant workers having second homes by the seaside.

they were not peasants mate. its a modern city , it obviously has poor areas but its not your stereo typical idea of china. the 5 million having left is a pretty big admission ? that at the same time undermines the idea that the lockdown had this wonderous effect on the cases/deaths...

If not peasant workers they are certainly very low paid workers. The average Chinese factory worker earns around £200/300pm that is not stereotypical it is fact.

So where have 5 million people gone?

I don't know where they went was just saying what has been reported with reputable sources..….. as for amounts per month that's relative to cost of living I have earned less as a factory worker when the cost of living was a fraction of what it is now...... but whatever the cost of living there is I doubt very much it makes factory workers peasants any more than an average factory worker here is a peasant...

UK police investigate telecommunications fires

Marianna Spring


Specialist disinformation and social media reporter

We reported earlier about two mobile phone masts torched in England, amid online rumours linking 5G technology to coronavirus. The conspiracies have been debunked by technology and health experts.

Now Merseyside Police has told the BBC that it is launching an investigation after a telecommunications box was set on fire in Aigburth, South Liverpool, on Friday evening. But it's unclear whether the box has anything to do with 5G technology.

A video of what appears to be the incident has been shared on social media, linking it to a conspiracy theory that 5G causes coronavirus. Verification from the BBC's disinformation team suggests that the video is authentic.

This fire is different to the one involving a 5G mast tower in the village of Melling, North Liverpool, which also occurred on Friday. Merseyside Fire Service has confirmed to BBC News that this incident is also now under investigation.

Videos of the fires have been shared on Facebook, YouTube and Instagram. Some of the user accounts are verified and have hundreds of thousands of followers.
Many of those sharing the post are pushing a conspiracy theory which falsely claims 5G technology is somehow responsible for coronavirus. Some are also encouraging further arson attacks on phone masts.

5G spreading virus 'a physical and biological impossibility'

Rachel Schraer

Health Reporter

There were plenty of concerns and conspiracies around 5G circulating before the coronavirus outbreak. But these seem to have escalated – with much-shared posts online suggesting a link between the illness and the new mobile phone technology.

Sars-CoV-2 is a virus that causes the illness Covid-19. Viruses are bits of genetic material coated in protein which infiltrate the cells of living things in order to reproduce. They often originate in animals.

The genome of this coronavirus has been sequenced so we can see that it looks a lot like viruses that circulate in the bat and pangolin population, suggesting that, like many other viruses, it jumped from animals to humans – and then began to pass from human to human.

There is no biological mechanism by which 5G - which uses radio waves - could have any bearing on this illness. They are just completely different things.

Dr Brendan Wren at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine described it as "both a physical and biological impossibility".

5G spreading virus 'a physical and biological impossibility'

Rachel Schraer

Health Reporter

There were plenty of concerns and conspiracies around 5G circulating before the coronavirus outbreak. But these seem to have escalated – with much-shared posts online suggesting a link between the illness and the new mobile phone technology.

Sars-CoV-2 is a virus that causes the illness Covid-19. Viruses are bits of genetic material coated in protein which infiltrate the cells of living things in order to reproduce. They often originate in animals.

The genome of this coronavirus has been sequenced so we can see that it looks a lot like viruses that circulate in the bat and pangolin population, suggesting that, like many other viruses, it jumped from animals to humans – and then began to pass from human to human.

There is no biological mechanism by which 5G - which uses radio waves - could have any bearing on this illness. They are just completely different things.

Dr Brendan Wren at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine described it as "both a physical and biological impossibility".

5G hasn't been rolled out to Gwent yet, but it is a hot spot in Wales for the virus and Iran hasn't had any 5G installation, another hot spot. Therefore, if there was any link with 5G and the virus, why would these hot spots occur. IMHO you're right, it will be bats and Pangolins from where the virus originated.

Look at the graphs for the Outcome of Total Closed Cases (recovery rate v death rate).

Countries that haven't yet got the virus under control or are nearly under control (Italy).
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... try/spain/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... try/italy/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... ry/france/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/iran/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... y/belgium/

Countries that got the virus under control quite quickly.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... y/germany/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... ry/israel/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... australia/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... try/japan/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... /thailand/


Now look at China, IMHO the graph looks way too neat.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... try/china/

Look at the graphs for the Outcome of Total Closed Cases (recovery rate v death rate).

Countries that haven't yet got the virus under control or are nearly under control (Italy).
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... try/spain/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... try/italy/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... ry/france/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/iran/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... y/belgium/

Countries that got the virus under control quite quickly.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... y/germany/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... ry/israel/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... australia/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... try/japan/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... /thailand/


Now look at China, IMHO the graph looks way too neat.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... try/china/

Sorry it should be Spain in the brackets as the country nearly under control.

Below is my post copied from last Thursday. The Gravitas link now brings up a completely different video. A new link for that video is :-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQRvDBgwb20

The video 'I found the source' now has the link :-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpQFCcSI0pU



Is this the source of the Coronavirus
Video titled :-
I found the source of the outbreak
https://www.youtu.be/bpQFCcS10pU

Pictures that China doesn't want you to see
Gravitas: Wuhan CoronaVirus | Pictures that China doesn't want you to see | World News|Corona Update
Has China defeated the coronavirus? Is Beijing reporting the right numbers? China says it has the coronavirus outbreak under control. But several reports tell a different tale. In Wuhan, clashes broke out after the restrictions were lifted.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_gUM8 ... O3adPW9K1g

That's two videos with information China doesn't want aired that have either had the links broken or videos changed.However, more information is leaking all the time, with the latest copied below :-

Evidence mounts COVID-19 came from a lab in Wuhan.

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6147525847001

I had this sent to me and I think it's an interesting theory. It's well presented by the doctor and makes more sense to me than a Chinese person eating a bat anyway: https://youtu.be/zFN5LUaqxOA

so its not contagious then ?

I won't go as far as saying it's not contagious, but I certainly think there is enough evidence to suggest frequency waves being pumped into our atmosphere by satellites and cell towers weaken our immune systems to make us more vulnerable to these viruses.

The 1918 Spanish flu coincided with the radio era beginning and the 1968 Hong Kong flu coincided with the satellite era beginning - both pandemics coinciding with large changes being made to the Earth's electric field.

Then came the HAARP research facility in Alaska which contained antennas shooting beams up to the ionosphere - a sensitive layer of around 20 miles between the sky and space which bounced these beams back into our Earth at different angles.

With the introduction of 3G, 4G and now 5G, more frequency waves than ever are being pumped into our atmosphere. I think an argument can be made the introduction of 5G has contributed to Covid-19.

5G was turned on in Wuhan on October 31st: http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-1 ... 517734.htm

I think an argument can be made the high number of cases in Italy coincides with Milan being turned into a 5G testbed: https://www.telecomtv.com/content/5g/ho ... bed-35721/

The Atalanta v Valencia game took place at the San Siro in Milan, 4 days before Covid-19 was announced. It was described as a 'biological bomb' infecting over 40,000 fans who attended. The Valencia fans then returned home to Spain which could contribute towards Spain's high case numbers. https://talksport.com/football/687311/a ... amo-mayor/

The case numbers in America has rapidly risen the past couple of weeks. On 13th March, regional fibre company Unity sold 486 cell towers to a mystery buyer for $190m. https://www.lightreading.com/4g-3g-wifi ... -id/758210

West Midlands has emerged as a hotspot for covid-19 deaths: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... rus-deaths

In September 2018, it was announced West Midlands became the UK's first large-scale 5G testbed: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/west ... 5g-testbed

I will be watching Japan with interest. Japan only currently has 1,866 cases, but 5G was only launched in Japan on March 27th. It will be interesting to see if Japan's cases rapidly rise: https://www.lightreading.com/5g/softbank-ignites-japan-5g-market-with-march-27-launch/d/d-id/758011

I won't go as far as saying 5G is the sole reason for Covid-19, but I definitely think it's been a contributory factor.

So Japan has declared a state of emergency with cases rapidly rising. Interesting.

I think Hong Kong could be the next country to get badly hit.

Does Iran have 5G?

Does Iran have 5G?

No and neither does the Gwent valleys.See ny previous post on the 4th in this thread.

funnily enough, i have been rewatching "The West Wing" and in an episode one of the main characters, Josh Lyman, Deputy Chief of Staff, says the following

It's going to be this! It's going to be something like this. Smallpox has been gone for fifty years. No one has an acquired immunity. Flies through the air. You get it, you carry a ten foot cloud around with you. One in three people die. If 100 people in New York City got it, you'd have to encircle them with 100 million vaccinated people to contain it. Do you know how many doses of smallpox vaccines exist in the country? Seven! If 100 people in New York City get it, there's gonna be a global medical emergency that's gonna make HIV look like cold and flu season. That's how it's gonna be, a little test tube with a... a rubber cap that's deteriorating... a guy steps out of Times Square station, [imitates a smashing noise]. smashes it on the sidewalk... there is a world war right there.


i personally thought it was made, to be used on the protesters in Singapore, so the Chinese could move in.

funnily enough, i have been rewatching "The West Wing" and in an episode one of the main characters, Josh Lyman, Deputy Chief of Staff, says the following

It's going to be this! It's going to be something like this. Smallpox has been gone for fifty years. No one has an acquired immunity. Flies through the air. You get it, you carry a ten foot cloud around with you. One in three people die. If 100 people in New York City got it, you'd have to encircle them with 100 million vaccinated people to contain it. Do you know how many doses of smallpox vaccines exist in the country? Seven! If 100 people in New York City get it, there's gonna be a global medical emergency that's gonna make HIV look like cold and flu season. That's how it's gonna be, a little test tube with a... a rubber cap that's deteriorating... a guy steps out of Times Square station, [imitates a smashing noise]. smashes it on the sidewalk... there is a world war right there.


i personally thought it was made, to be used on the protesters in Singapore, so the Chinese could move in.

its not a biological weapon...

Has there been an acknowledgement from the Chinese that they are responsible for releasing this menace onto the world.

The PRC bought up most of the masks and protective clothing available around the world, despite the fact that they make over half the worlds supply of masks, while telling the WHO that there was no virus spreading human to human.

Steve Bannon: Blood is on the hands of the Chinese Communist Party
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjlj7KkzyqU

We will probably never know if the Coronavirus was a biological weapon or a tragic leak (most likely), but the way the PRC has handled the crisis has been appalling. To lie about the virus being transmissible human to human, while at the same time buying all available masks and PPE available. No wonder countries in Europe have had difficulty sourcing equipment.

EXCLUSIVE: Dr. Rashid Buttar BLASTS Gates, Fauci, EXPOSES Fake Pandemic Numbers As Economy Collapses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhLc3l5ROQk

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=214270

The World Health Organization (WHO) has said evidence indicates the coronavirus is of animal origin, dismissing reports it was produced in a Chinese laboratory.

Last week US President Donald Trump said his administration was looking into unsubstantiated claims that coronavirus originated from a lab in Wuhan.

Wuhan, a city in China’s Hubei province, saw the first cases of Covid-19 late last year.

On Tuesday, WHO spokeswoman Fadela Chaib said all evidence suggested the virus was “not manipulated or constructed in a lab or somewhere else”.

“It is probable, likely, that the virus is of animal origin,” she told a WHO media briefing in Geneva.

How the virus was transmitted from animals to humans is not yet clear, she added.

“It most likely has its ecological reservoir in bats - but how the virus came from bats to humans is still to be seen and discovered,” she said.

The World Health Organization (WHO) has said evidence indicates the coronavirus is of animal origin, dismissing reports it was produced in a Chinese laboratory.

Last week US President Donald Trump said his administration was looking into unsubstantiated claims that coronavirus originated from a lab in Wuhan.

Wuhan, a city in China’s Hubei province, saw the first cases of Covid-19 late last year.

On Tuesday, WHO spokeswoman Fadela Chaib said all evidence suggested the virus was “not manipulated or constructed in a lab or somewhere else”.

“It is probable, likely, that the virus is of animal origin,” she told a WHO media briefing in Geneva.

How the virus was transmitted from animals to humans is not yet clear, she added.

“It most likely has its ecological reservoir in bats - but how the virus came from bats to humans is still to be seen and discovered,” she said.

French virologist & Nobel laureate Luc Montagnier has claimed that Coronavirus originated in a lab. Montagnier's research was based on the fact that COVID-19's genome has elements of HIV & Malaria germ.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usyQgPU-VrI
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=214280

Not a fan of Trump but SOME of his comments on WHO are right !!, Very poor leadership there and changes are needed, perhaps they have become complacent and just another Quango .

Reading this morning that EU commission has blamed UK government for not joining their PPE group in time ( which hasn't distributed anything as yet )as the UK hadn't replied to an email, Bet they still took their monthly contribution without waiting for an email though