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THE NEW LOCKDOWN RULES / I THINK THEY'VE GOT IT RIGHT

Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:46 pm

It’s been tough and Well Done & FairPlay to Sánchez the President of Spain , he had a tough job, zero tolerance and a strict lockdown and it’s paying off :thumbright:




Spain’s prime minister announces coronavirus deescalation measures
The transition to a “new normality” will last six to eight weeks, explains Pedro Sánchez, with continuing restrictions on travel to other provinces and Spanish islands



On Tuesday evening, Prime Minister Sánchez set out the Spanish government's plan for de-escalation of coronavirus restrictions.

He said that the transition will be gradual, asymmetric (therefore different according to region) and coordinated. There will be a "gradual recovery by phases for which the unit will be the province or the island"; there will be no movement between provinces or islands.
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Re: NOW COUNTING THE DAYS / AS LOCKDOWN IS LIFTED

Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:52 pm

LIFTING THE LOCKDOWN OVER YHE NEXT 8 WEEKS / STARTING FROM MONDAY 4TH MAY :thumbright:



Phase 0, he said, will begin on May 4, and will involve the reopening of small businesses such as restaurants that can offer food to take away, and places that can take bookings. This will include establishments such as hardware stores, government sources cited as an example. Customers would have to call and make an appointment to be able to buy a particular product. Only one customer would be permitted in the premises at a time and would be served by a sales clerk behind a screen or a counter.

This phase will also include the reopening of hairdressers, albeit with employees using the "maximum level of individual protection,” the same sources said, such as masks and gloves.

Individual classes will also be allowed in gyms, as well as individual training for federated sports players and professional leagues.

Re: NOW COUNTING THE DAYS / AS LOCKDOWN IS LIFTED

Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:54 pm

Phase 1, the prime minister continued, would “allow in each defined territory the partial reopening of small businesses under strict safety measures, but not large shopping malls, where big crowds could form.”

He added that this also included the opening of hotels and tourist apartments, not including common areas. Cafés and restaurants will also be able to open their outdoor sidewalk sections under this phase, at 30% of capacity, but entry inside will not be permitted.

Mobility within a province will also be permitted under Phase 1. This means that if the first phase lasts the time expected, people could begin to visit friends and family within the same province from May 11 at the earliest.

There will be a “timetable for the over-65s” to shop in retail establishments, he added, given that they are an at-risk group from the Covid-19 disease, while the use of masks on public transport “will be highly recommended.”

Religious sites such as churches will be able to open in phase 1, with a limit of 30% of their capacity, the prime minister said.
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Re: NOW COUNTING THE DAYS / AS LOCKDOWN IS LIFTED

Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:57 pm

By the end of June, as a country we will be in the new normality if the evolution of the epidemic is under control in all territories






PRIME MINISTER PEDRO SÁNCHEZ






Phase 2, meanwhile, will see hostelry establishments able to open their dining areas, at a third of their capacity. As for schools, they will not fully reopen until September, but Sánchez explained that they would offer a guarantee that children aged under six can attend classes if their parents have to go to work, and so that students can complete their university application processes and exams.




Sports players will also have fewer restrictions under Phase 2.

“Cultural events will be possible with fewer than 50 people in interior spaces, and for open-air events, there will have to be 400 people or fewer, and they will have to be seated,” Sánchez explained.

Cinemas and theaters will also reopen under Phase 2, with a third of their capacity allowed to enter and assigned seating.
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Re: NOW COUNTING THE DAYS / AS LOCKDOWN IS LIFTED

Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:59 pm

Under Phase 3, the capacity of stores and other public-facing businesses will be limited to 50%, with an inter-personal distance of two meters. Restrictions will be further relaxed for bars and restaurants.

Each phase will last at least two weeks, he said, which is the incubation period of the coronavirus, and in the best-case scenario, the process will last eight weeks in all of Spain.




“By the end of June, as a country we will be in the new normality if the evolution of the epidemic is under control in all territories,” he said. “This weekend individual physical activity [for adults] will be allowed, as will walks. On May 4, all territories will enter Phase 0, and given the low number of infections and if the progress allows for it, Formentera, the Balearics, Gomera, El Hierro and Graciosa in the Canary Islands will enter Phase 1 shortly after.

“On May 11, all of the provinces that meet the requisites will enter Phase 1, and the Health Ministry will evaluate the markers on a two-weekly basis.

“There is no closed and uniform calendar, and we will advance in each place as quickly as the epidemic permits,” he said. “When we conclude the deescalation we can say that each province has reached a situation of new normality until a vaccine arrives.”

Home-working will be preferable until at least reaching Phase 3, he added.

The markers the prime minister referred to will be “the capacity of the country’s health systems, the epidemiological situation in each area, protection measures in the workplace, business and public transport, and mobility and socioeconomic data.” These markers would be public, he added, “and transparent.”
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Re: NOW COUNTING THE DAYS / AS LOCKDOWN IS LIFTED

Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:02 pm

The prime minister made clear that it would be the central Health Ministry, and not Spain’s regional governments, who would be deciding on the speed of deescalation in each province, despite the latter calling for such powers. “If we have to choose between prudence and risk, we opt for prudence,” he stated.

The virus, the prime minister said, “has not gone anywhere. It is still there lurking. With our behavior, we can save lives. We can protect our lives and help to rebuild our country. That is, right now, the best kind of patriotism.”



The four rules of the deescalation, Sánchez explained, were “a gradual, asymmetrical, coordinated and adaptable approach.” “The adaptability is because we don’t know what we are facing. Science still doesn’t know a lot of things about this virus. As such, we are facing something that we don’t know, and that is why we have to be cautious.”






Movement between provinces had to be restricted, Sánchez explained, to avoid the spread of the virus from area to area. “Imagine that one province is in Phase 1 and another in Phase 3,” he said. “Mobility cannot be permitted to go and meet with a relative or friend.” Mobility between provinces would return “when we reach the phase of the new normality,” he added – i.e. when the deescalation is over.
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Re: NOW COUNTING THE DAYS / AS LOCKDOWN IS LIFTED

Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:34 pm

It´s happening - the beginning of the "new normal".

The 4 phase plan shows us in phase 0 now with phase 1 starting May 11th depending on progress between now and then and the other phases being implemented every 2 weeks after that.

It means by the end of May shops, bars and restaurants should be open along with some hotels albeit with restrictions on opening hours and capacity etc.

No mention of international travel - I think that´s still a way off yet but things looking better than they have for a long while.

Re: NOW COUNTING THE DAYS / AS LOCKDOWN IS LIFTED

Wed Apr 29, 2020 6:13 am

Forever Blue wrote:LIFTING THE LOCKDOWN OVER YHE NEXT 8 WEEKS / STARTING FROM MONDAY 4TH MAY :thumbright:



Phase 0, he said, will begin on May 4, and will involve the reopening of small businesses such as restaurants that can offer food to take away, and places that can take bookings. This will include establishments such as hardware stores, government sources cited as an example. Customers would have to call and make an appointment to be able to buy a particular product. Only one customer would be permitted in the premises at a time and would be served by a sales clerk behind a screen or a counter.

This phase will also include the reopening of hairdressers, albeit with employees using the "maximum level of individual protection,” the same sources said, such as masks and gloves.

Individual classes will also be allowed in gyms, as well as individual training for federated sports players and professional leagues.


Can you get tested out there Annis? Not even letting kids out for most of that lockdown must have been really tough, particularly as many live In apartments. At least this occurred in early summer, hopefully we can all have a normal ish summer. :thumbup:

Re: NOW COUNTING THE DAYS / AS LOCKDOWN IS LIFTED

Wed Apr 29, 2020 6:15 am

Forever Blue wrote:It´s happening - the beginning of the "new normal".

The 4 phase plan shows us in phase 0 now with phase 1 starting May 11th depending on progress between now and then and the other phases being implemented every 2 weeks after that.

It means by the end of May shops, bars and restaurants should be open along with some hotels albeit with restrictions on opening hours and capacity etc.

No mention of international travel - I think that´s still a way off yet but things looking better than they have for a long while.


Mate of mine who works for BA reckons business travel only will open first, kind of makes sense. I don’t think many people will want to flock abroad just yet.

Re: NOW COUNTING THE DAYS / AS LOCKDOWN IS LIFTED

Wed Apr 29, 2020 7:05 am

goats wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:LIFTING THE LOCKDOWN OVER YHE NEXT 8 WEEKS / STARTING FROM MONDAY 4TH MAY :thumbright:



Phase 0, he said, will begin on May 4, and will involve the reopening of small businesses such as restaurants that can offer food to take away, and places that can take bookings. This will include establishments such as hardware stores, government sources cited as an example. Customers would have to call and make an appointment to be able to buy a particular product. Only one customer would be permitted in the premises at a time and would be served by a sales clerk behind a screen or a counter.

This phase will also include the reopening of hairdressers, albeit with employees using the "maximum level of individual protection,” the same sources said, such as masks and gloves.

Individual classes will also be allowed in gyms, as well as individual training for federated sports players and professional leagues.


Can you get tested out there Annis? Not even letting kids out for most of that lockdown must have been really tough, particularly as many live In apartments. At least this occurred in early summer, hopefully we can all have a normal ish summer. :thumbup:





It really was Goats Thanks, very very hard staying totally in.

We are enquiring about being tested and I will let you know :thumbright: :thumbright:

I hope we all have a good Summer after this :thumbright: :thumbright:

Re: NOW COUNTING THE DAYS / AS LOCKDOWN IS LIFTED

Wed Apr 29, 2020 7:07 am

goats wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:It´s happening - the beginning of the "new normal".

The 4 phase plan shows us in phase 0 now with phase 1 starting May 11th depending on progress between now and then and the other phases being implemented every 2 weeks after that.

It means by the end of May shops, bars and restaurants should be open along with some hotels albeit with restrictions on opening hours and capacity etc.

No mention of international travel - I think that´s still a way off yet but things looking better than they have for a long while.


Mate of mine who works for BA reckons business travel only will open first, kind of makes sense. I don’t think many people will want to flock abroad just yet.




Goat’s, regarding flights I have no real idea yet, hearing maybe middle of June- July.

Re: NOW COUNTING THE DAYS / AS LOCKDOWN IS LIFTED

Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:01 am

Forever Blue wrote:
goats wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:It´s happening - the beginning of the "new normal".

The 4 phase plan shows us in phase 0 now with phase 1 starting May 11th depending on progress between now and then and the other phases being implemented every 2 weeks after that.

It means by the end of May shops, bars and restaurants should be open along with some hotels albeit with restrictions on opening hours and capacity etc.

No mention of international travel - I think that´s still a way off yet but things looking better than they have for a long while.


Mate of mine who works for BA reckons business travel only will open first, kind of makes sense. I don’t think many people will want to flock abroad just yet.


Goat’s, regarding flights I have no real idea yet, hearing maybe middle of June- July.


If you can give evidence that it’s business related and not a holiday it might be ok sooner..... :thumbup:

Re: NOW COUNTING THE DAYS / AS LOCKDOWN IS LIFTED

Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:15 am

goats wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:It´s happening - the beginning of the "new normal".

The 4 phase plan shows us in phase 0 now with phase 1 starting May 11th depending on progress between now and then and the other phases being implemented every 2 weeks after that.

It means by the end of May shops, bars and restaurants should be open along with some hotels albeit with restrictions on opening hours and capacity etc.

No mention of international travel - I think that´s still a way off yet but things looking better than they have for a long while.


Mate of mine who works for BA reckons business travel only will open first, kind of makes sense. I don’t think many people will want to flock abroad just yet.


Simon Calder said this morning extensive polls say 55% of people won't fly until a proven vaccine, but 45% will.

Flights expected to be at least a third more expensive as they are talking about leaving the middle seats empty, probably a lot more than that though due to the lack of demand and extra distancing and cleaning measures needed in airport and flights themselves.

Re: NOW COUNTING THE DAYS / AS LOCKDOWN IS LIFTED

Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:56 am

goats wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
goats wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:It´s happening - the beginning of the "new normal".

The 4 phase plan shows us in phase 0 now with phase 1 starting May 11th depending on progress between now and then and the other phases being implemented every 2 weeks after that.

It means by the end of May shops, bars and restaurants should be open along with some hotels albeit with restrictions on opening hours and capacity etc.

No mention of international travel - I think that´s still a way off yet but things looking better than they have for a long while.


Mate of mine who works for BA reckons business travel only will open first, kind of makes sense. I don’t think many people will want to flock abroad just yet.


Goat’s, regarding flights I have no real idea yet, hearing maybe middle of June- July.


If you can give evidence that it’s business related and not a holiday it might be ok sooner..... :thumbup:


I hope so , thanks for the help Goats.


I can get back to the UK simple, but they 100% won’t let me back in Mallorca they are beyond strict .

Re: NOW COUNTING THE DAYS / AS LOCKDOWN IS LIFTED

Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:57 am

Bluebina wrote:
goats wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:It´s happening - the beginning of the "new normal".

The 4 phase plan shows us in phase 0 now with phase 1 starting May 11th depending on progress between now and then and the other phases being implemented every 2 weeks after that.

It means by the end of May shops, bars and restaurants should be open along with some hotels albeit with restrictions on opening hours and capacity etc.

No mention of international travel - I think that´s still a way off yet but things looking better than they have for a long while.


Mate of mine who works for BA reckons business travel only will open first, kind of makes sense. I don’t think many people will want to flock abroad just yet.


Simon Calder said this morning extensive polls say 55% of people won't fly until a proven vaccine, but 45% will.

Flights expected to be at least a third more expensive as they are talking about leaving the middle seats empty, probably a lot more than that though due to the lack of demand and extra distancing and cleaning measures needed in airport and flights themselves.



Thankful I have flights already booked right up to next April as I book 11 months ahead .

Re: NOW COUNTING THE DAYS / AS LOCKDOWN IS LIFTED

Wed Apr 29, 2020 1:49 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
goats wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:It´s happening - the beginning of the "new normal".

The 4 phase plan shows us in phase 0 now with phase 1 starting May 11th depending on progress between now and then and the other phases being implemented every 2 weeks after that.

It means by the end of May shops, bars and restaurants should be open along with some hotels albeit with restrictions on opening hours and capacity etc.

No mention of international travel - I think that´s still a way off yet but things looking better than they have for a long while.


Mate of mine who works for BA reckons business travel only will open first, kind of makes sense. I don’t think many people will want to flock abroad just yet.


Simon Calder said this morning extensive polls say 55% of people won't fly until a proven vaccine, but 45% will.

Flights expected to be at least a third more expensive as they are talking about leaving the middle seats empty, probably a lot more than that though due to the lack of demand and extra distancing and cleaning measures needed in airport and flights themselves.



Thankful I have flights already booked right up to next April as I book 11 months ahead .


Wise move that will have saved you a load :thumbup:

Re: NOW COUNTING THE DAYS / AS LOCKDOWN IS LIFTED

Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:47 pm

Bluebina wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
goats wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:It´s happening - the beginning of the "new normal".

The 4 phase plan shows us in phase 0 now with phase 1 starting May 11th depending on progress between now and then and the other phases being implemented every 2 weeks after that.

It means by the end of May shops, bars and restaurants should be open along with some hotels albeit with restrictions on opening hours and capacity etc.

No mention of international travel - I think that´s still a way off yet but things looking better than they have for a long while.


Mate of mine who works for BA reckons business travel only will open first, kind of makes sense. I don’t think many people will want to flock abroad just yet.


Simon Calder said this morning extensive polls say 55% of people won't fly until a proven vaccine, but 45% will.

Flights expected to be at least a third more expensive as they are talking about leaving the middle seats empty, probably a lot more than that though due to the lack of demand and extra distancing and cleaning measures needed in airport and flights themselves.



Thankful I have flights already booked right up to next April as I book 11 months ahead .


Wise move that will have saved you a load :thumbup:



:thumbright: :thumbright:

Re: NOW COUNTING THE DAYS / AS LOCKDOWN IS LIFTED

Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:48 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
goats wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:LIFTING THE LOCKDOWN OVER YHE NEXT 8 WEEKS / STARTING FROM MONDAY 4TH MAY :thumbright:



Phase 0, he said, will begin on May 4, and will involve the reopening of small businesses such as restaurants that can offer food to take away, and places that can take bookings. This will include establishments such as hardware stores, government sources cited as an example. Customers would have to call and make an appointment to be able to buy a particular product. Only one customer would be permitted in the premises at a time and would be served by a sales clerk behind a screen or a counter.

This phase will also include the reopening of hairdressers, albeit with employees using the "maximum level of individual protection,” the same sources said, such as masks and gloves.

Individual classes will also be allowed in gyms, as well as individual training for federated sports players and professional leagues.


Can you get tested out there Annis? Not even letting kids out for most of that lockdown must have been really tough, particularly as many live In apartments. At least this occurred in early summer, hopefully we can all have a normal ish summer. :thumbup:





It really was Goats Thanks, very very hard staying totally in.

We are enquiring about being tested and I will let you know :thumbright: :thumbright:

I hope we all have a good Summer after this :thumbright: :thumbright:


From what ive read there is only a test available that works to say if you currently have it.

There isnt one to say if you HAD it yet that works. So id assume they would be testing people with symptoms only until a new type of test is available.

Unless there has been an update since what i read.

Re: NOW COUNTING THE DAYS / AS LOCKDOWN IS LIFTED

Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:02 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
goats wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:LIFTING THE LOCKDOWN OVER YHE NEXT 8 WEEKS / STARTING FROM MONDAY 4TH MAY :thumbright:



Phase 0, he said, will begin on May 4, and will involve the reopening of small businesses such as restaurants that can offer food to take away, and places that can take bookings. This will include establishments such as hardware stores, government sources cited as an example. Customers would have to call and make an appointment to be able to buy a particular product. Only one customer would be permitted in the premises at a time and would be served by a sales clerk behind a screen or a counter.

This phase will also include the reopening of hairdressers, albeit with employees using the "maximum level of individual protection,” the same sources said, such as masks and gloves.

Individual classes will also be allowed in gyms, as well as individual training for federated sports players and professional leagues.


Can you get tested out there Annis? Not even letting kids out for most of that lockdown must have been really tough, particularly as many live In apartments. At least this occurred in early summer, hopefully we can all have a normal ish summer. :thumbup:





It really was Goats Thanks, very very hard staying totally in.

We are enquiring about being tested and I will let you know :thumbright: :thumbright:

I hope we all have a good Summer after this :thumbright: :thumbright:


From what ive read there is only a test available that works to say if you currently have it.

There isnt one to say if you HAD it yet that works. So id assume they would be testing people with symptoms only until a new type of test is available.

Unless there has been an update since what i read.



I think your right Luke