Poll: Primary schools back june 1st

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Will you send your kids back on june 1st

Poll ended at Sun May 17, 2020 7:24 pm

Yes
13
52%
No
11
44%
Maybe
1
4%
 
Total votes : 25

Re: Primary schools back june 1st

Postby moonboots » Fri May 15, 2020 3:13 pm

castleblue wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:What's happening with schools in Wales?

Bethan Lewis

BBC Wales Family & Education Correspondent

On Thursday, Education Minister Kirsty Williams said schools wouldn’t reopen on 1 June
However the Welsh Government hasn't ruled out anything after the 'beginning of June', including later that month
The Welsh Government has promised at least three weeks' notice before a ‘phased’ return
A document on schools is due this week but there's no mention so far of it including any sort of timescale for reopening


It's looking like English schools only on June 1st which Boris did not mention in the broadcast.
Will Wales really defy Westminster ? Even with the 3 weeks they can still go back first week in June in Wales. Its likely that will happen as well

It's not a case of defying Westminster. Health and education, among other things, are devolved issues so we are perfectly entitled to make our own decisions. :thumbright:


They are doing it to justify there existance. Nothing to do with it being the correct call (which it may well be) it's all to do with forcing a wedge between the union which is why they did it Friday and Scotland are doing the same. It's pathetic and dangerous. If it was to do with making a decision they would have done it today after the announcement not friday.
They should all be working together as a country not sepersting us making it all harder for everybody

Welsh Labour and the DUP are Unionist parties so definitely not trying to force a wedge between the Union.
Johnson is a buffoon. Shallow and out of his depth. A coward who didn't have the balls to face Andrew Neil before the December election and now he's stopped his Ministers from facing Piers Morgan. If they can't answer tough questions from interviewers they shouldn't be in the job.
Personally I feel happy the the rest of the UK is taking a more cautious and sensible approach.

Are you sure that Welsh Labour is a Unionist party mate?
Personally, I think Boris is right re Piers Morgan as he just shouted over the people he was interviewing and constantly interrupted them or twisted what they were actually saying. Very rude and poor interviewing techniques.


Welsh Labour under Drakeford are about as Unionist as the SNP. Drakeford is a lifelong Republican and I can remember him saying on a TV interview that he he felt he could have "A Working Relationship with the Royal Family", not the Queen but the Royal Family and there in lies his true colours.

Ever since Drakeford helped Rhodri Morgan with his "Clear Red Water" vision for Wales he has been waiting for an opportunity to control ALL aspects of Welsh Society but, in my opinion, he has failed to understand that citizens rights are embedded in the UK Constitution and that he cannot introduce Law which takes away basic citizens right to Liberty, Privacy, Freedom of Conscience and Expression and to freedom of Association and Assembly.

Since Boris Johnson imposed the lockdown on the British Public he knows full well that we have consented to the temporary removal of our rights because of this unprecedented crisis, he even thanked us ALL during his TV speech Sunday evening. There has been no such acceptance from Drakeford and his cronies and if his "Vision" gets tested in the Supreme Court in London I believe he will get his arse kicked.

In my opinion this crisis has highlighted everything that is wrong with devolution and Drakeford is becoming the Poster Boy for the advert to reverse the devolution vote.

:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


Drakeford and Welsh Labour are definitely Unionists. He says so on their own government website. Some people like to believe certain things are true and then spread incorrect information.

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Re: Primary schools back june 1st

Postby bluebirdoct1962 » Fri May 15, 2020 3:36 pm

moonboots wrote:
castleblue wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:What's happening with schools in Wales?

Bethan Lewis

BBC Wales Family & Education Correspondent

On Thursday, Education Minister Kirsty Williams said schools wouldn’t reopen on 1 June
However the Welsh Government hasn't ruled out anything after the 'beginning of June', including later that month
The Welsh Government has promised at least three weeks' notice before a ‘phased’ return
A document on schools is due this week but there's no mention so far of it including any sort of timescale for reopening


It's looking like English schools only on June 1st which Boris did not mention in the broadcast.
Will Wales really defy Westminster ? Even with the 3 weeks they can still go back first week in June in Wales. Its likely that will happen as well

It's not a case of defying Westminster. Health and education, among other things, are devolved issues so we are perfectly entitled to make our own decisions. :thumbright:


They are doing it to justify there existance. Nothing to do with it being the correct call (which it may well be) it's all to do with forcing a wedge between the union which is why they did it Friday and Scotland are doing the same. It's pathetic and dangerous. If it was to do with making a decision they would have done it today after the announcement not friday.
They should all be working together as a country not sepersting us making it all harder for everybody

Welsh Labour and the DUP are Unionist parties so definitely not trying to force a wedge between the Union.
Johnson is a buffoon. Shallow and out of his depth. A coward who didn't have the balls to face Andrew Neil before the December election and now he's stopped his Ministers from facing Piers Morgan. If they can't answer tough questions from interviewers they shouldn't be in the job.
Personally I feel happy the the rest of the UK is taking a more cautious and sensible approach.

Are you sure that Welsh Labour is a Unionist party mate?
Personally, I think Boris is right re Piers Morgan as he just shouted over the people he was interviewing and constantly interrupted them or twisted what they were actually saying. Very rude and poor interviewing techniques.


Welsh Labour under Drakeford are about as Unionist as the SNP. Drakeford is a lifelong Republican and I can remember him saying on a TV interview that he he felt he could have "A Working Relationship with the Royal Family", not the Queen but the Royal Family and there in lies his true colours.

Ever since Drakeford helped Rhodri Morgan with his "Clear Red Water" vision for Wales he has been waiting for an opportunity to control ALL aspects of Welsh Society but, in my opinion, he has failed to understand that citizens rights are embedded in the UK Constitution and that he cannot introduce Law which takes away basic citizens right to Liberty, Privacy, Freedom of Conscience and Expression and to freedom of Association and Assembly.

Since Boris Johnson imposed the lockdown on the British Public he knows full well that we have consented to the temporary removal of our rights because of this unprecedented crisis, he even thanked us ALL during his TV speech Sunday evening. There has been no such acceptance from Drakeford and his cronies and if his "Vision" gets tested in the Supreme Court in London I believe he will get his arse kicked.

In my opinion this crisis has highlighted everything that is wrong with devolution and Drakeford is becoming the Poster Boy for the advert to reverse the devolution vote.

:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


Drakeford and Welsh Labour are definitely Unionists. He says so on their own government website. Some people like to believe certain things are true and then spread incorrect information.

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Written Statement: The future of the United Kingdom
Mark Drakeford AM, First Minister

First published:28 August 2019
Last updated:28 August 2019
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I strongly believe that Wales’ future is best served by being a part of the United Kingdom. The Welsh Government has consistently argued for changes to the settlement over the last two decades to both strengthen our parliament and government but also to strengthen the union.

So because it's written on the website it makes them Unionist? Come on mate! :roll:
Saying it is one thing, putting it into practice is another entirely.
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Re: Primary schools back june 1st

Postby moonboots » Fri May 15, 2020 4:51 pm

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
moonboots wrote:
castleblue wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:What's happening with schools in Wales?

Bethan Lewis

BBC Wales Family & Education Correspondent

On Thursday, Education Minister Kirsty Williams said schools wouldn’t reopen on 1 June
However the Welsh Government hasn't ruled out anything after the 'beginning of June', including later that month
The Welsh Government has promised at least three weeks' notice before a ‘phased’ return
A document on schools is due this week but there's no mention so far of it including any sort of timescale for reopening


It's looking like English schools only on June 1st which Boris did not mention in the broadcast.
Will Wales really defy Westminster ? Even with the 3 weeks they can still go back first week in June in Wales. Its likely that will happen as well

It's not a case of defying Westminster. Health and education, among other things, are devolved issues so we are perfectly entitled to make our own decisions. :thumbright:


They are doing it to justify there existance. Nothing to do with it being the correct call (which it may well be) it's all to do with forcing a wedge between the union which is why they did it Friday and Scotland are doing the same. It's pathetic and dangerous. If it was to do with making a decision they would have done it today after the announcement not friday.
They should all be working together as a country not sepersting us making it all harder for everybody

Welsh Labour and the DUP are Unionist parties so definitely not trying to force a wedge between the Union.
Johnson is a buffoon. Shallow and out of his depth. A coward who didn't have the balls to face Andrew Neil before the December election and now he's stopped his Ministers from facing Piers Morgan. If they can't answer tough questions from interviewers they shouldn't be in the job.
Personally I feel happy the the rest of the UK is taking a more cautious and sensible approach.

Are you sure that Welsh Labour is a Unionist party mate?
Personally, I think Boris is right re Piers Morgan as he just shouted over the people he was interviewing and constantly interrupted them or twisted what they were actually saying. Very rude and poor interviewing techniques.


Welsh Labour under Drakeford are about as Unionist as the SNP. Drakeford is a lifelong Republican and I can remember him saying on a TV interview that he he felt he could have "A Working Relationship with the Royal Family", not the Queen but the Royal Family and there in lies his true colours.

Ever since Drakeford helped Rhodri Morgan with his "Clear Red Water" vision for Wales he has been waiting for an opportunity to control ALL aspects of Welsh Society but, in my opinion, he has failed to understand that citizens rights are embedded in the UK Constitution and that he cannot introduce Law which takes away basic citizens right to Liberty, Privacy, Freedom of Conscience and Expression and to freedom of Association and Assembly.

Since Boris Johnson imposed the lockdown on the British Public he knows full well that we have consented to the temporary removal of our rights because of this unprecedented crisis, he even thanked us ALL during his TV speech Sunday evening. There has been no such acceptance from Drakeford and his cronies and if his "Vision" gets tested in the Supreme Court in London I believe he will get his arse kicked.

In my opinion this crisis has highlighted everything that is wrong with devolution and Drakeford is becoming the Poster Boy for the advert to reverse the devolution vote.

:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


Drakeford and Welsh Labour are definitely Unionists. He says so on their own government website. Some people like to believe certain things are true and then spread incorrect information.

--------------------------------------------------------------------

Written Statement: The future of the United Kingdom
Mark Drakeford AM, First Minister

First published:28 August 2019
Last updated:28 August 2019
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I strongly believe that Wales’ future is best served by being a part of the United Kingdom. The Welsh Government has consistently argued for changes to the settlement over the last two decades to both strengthen our parliament and government but also to strengthen the union.

So because it's written on the website it makes them Unionist? Come on mate! :roll:
Saying it is one thing, putting it into practice is another entirely.


I've heard him say it loads of times. He commits it in writing on a government website and you still dont believe!!! He's a f*cking Unionist ffs !!!
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Re: Primary schools back june 1st

Postby bluebirdoct1962 » Fri May 15, 2020 4:55 pm

moonboots wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
moonboots wrote:
castleblue wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:What's happening with schools in Wales?

Bethan Lewis

BBC Wales Family & Education Correspondent

On Thursday, Education Minister Kirsty Williams said schools wouldn’t reopen on 1 June
However the Welsh Government hasn't ruled out anything after the 'beginning of June', including later that month
The Welsh Government has promised at least three weeks' notice before a ‘phased’ return
A document on schools is due this week but there's no mention so far of it including any sort of timescale for reopening


It's looking like English schools only on June 1st which Boris did not mention in the broadcast.
Will Wales really defy Westminster ? Even with the 3 weeks they can still go back first week in June in Wales. Its likely that will happen as well

It's not a case of defying Westminster. Health and education, among other things, are devolved issues so we are perfectly entitled to make our own decisions. :thumbright:


They are doing it to justify there existance. Nothing to do with it being the correct call (which it may well be) it's all to do with forcing a wedge between the union which is why they did it Friday and Scotland are doing the same. It's pathetic and dangerous. If it was to do with making a decision they would have done it today after the announcement not friday.
They should all be working together as a country not sepersting us making it all harder for everybody

Welsh Labour and the DUP are Unionist parties so definitely not trying to force a wedge between the Union.
Johnson is a buffoon. Shallow and out of his depth. A coward who didn't have the balls to face Andrew Neil before the December election and now he's stopped his Ministers from facing Piers Morgan. If they can't answer tough questions from interviewers they shouldn't be in the job.
Personally I feel happy the the rest of the UK is taking a more cautious and sensible approach.

Are you sure that Welsh Labour is a Unionist party mate?
Personally, I think Boris is right re Piers Morgan as he just shouted over the people he was interviewing and constantly interrupted them or twisted what they were actually saying. Very rude and poor interviewing techniques.


Welsh Labour under Drakeford are about as Unionist as the SNP. Drakeford is a lifelong Republican and I can remember him saying on a TV interview that he he felt he could have "A Working Relationship with the Royal Family", not the Queen but the Royal Family and there in lies his true colours.

Ever since Drakeford helped Rhodri Morgan with his "Clear Red Water" vision for Wales he has been waiting for an opportunity to control ALL aspects of Welsh Society but, in my opinion, he has failed to understand that citizens rights are embedded in the UK Constitution and that he cannot introduce Law which takes away basic citizens right to Liberty, Privacy, Freedom of Conscience and Expression and to freedom of Association and Assembly.

Since Boris Johnson imposed the lockdown on the British Public he knows full well that we have consented to the temporary removal of our rights because of this unprecedented crisis, he even thanked us ALL during his TV speech Sunday evening. There has been no such acceptance from Drakeford and his cronies and if his "Vision" gets tested in the Supreme Court in London I believe he will get his arse kicked.

In my opinion this crisis has highlighted everything that is wrong with devolution and Drakeford is becoming the Poster Boy for the advert to reverse the devolution vote.

:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


Drakeford and Welsh Labour are definitely Unionists. He says so on their own government website. Some people like to believe certain things are true and then spread incorrect information.

--------------------------------------------------------------------

Written Statement: The future of the United Kingdom
Mark Drakeford AM, First Minister

First published:28 August 2019
Last updated:28 August 2019
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I strongly believe that Wales’ future is best served by being a part of the United Kingdom. The Welsh Government has consistently argued for changes to the settlement over the last two decades to both strengthen our parliament and government but also to strengthen the union.

So because it's written on the website it makes them Unionist? Come on mate! :roll:
Saying it is one thing, putting it into practice is another entirely.


I've heard him say it loads of times. He commits it in writing on a government website and you still dont believe!!! He's a f*cking Unionist ffs !!!

Saying it is one thing, putting it into practice is another entirely.[/quote]
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Re: Poll: Primary schools back june 1st

Postby moonboots » Fri May 15, 2020 5:21 pm

So.....bluebirdoct62, are you saying that he actually wants an independent Wales??

If he did, he and his Welsh Labour mates, would be in Plaid, fighting the case for independence.

He cares for Wales, and will fight Wales's corner, as indeed he should, as our First Minister, but he believes that Wales is better off inside the Union.

Mind you, if Johnson and the rest of his "rule Britannia " brigade keep on the way they are I can see him swallowing his pride and joining the cause. The UK government is clearly showing a total disrespect for the devolved nations, not consulting them on vital matters which are, after all, devolved and as well as that they are deliberately trying to confuse the message for Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish people. Johnson is out of his depth and his bluster, Latin quotes and jokey style will show him for the empty vessel he is. He will soon unravel.
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Re: Poll: Primary schools back june 1st

Postby skidemin » Fri May 15, 2020 10:25 pm

moonboots wrote:So.....bluebirdoct62, are you saying that he actually wants an independent Wales??

If he did, he and his Welsh Labour mates, would be in Plaid, fighting the case for independence.

He cares for Wales, and will fight Wales's corner, as indeed he should, as our First Minister, but he believes that Wales is better off inside the Union.

Mind you, if Johnson and the rest of his "rule Britannia " brigade keep on the way they are I can see him swallowing his pride and joining the cause. The UK government is clearly showing a total disrespect for the devolved nations, not consulting them on vital matters which are, after all, devolved and as well as that they are deliberately trying to confuse the message for Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish people. Johnson is out of his depth and his bluster, Latin quotes and jokey style will show him for the empty vessel he is. He will soon unravel.



the deliberate act was the devolved leaders jumping in early knowing BJ was announcing on Sunday..
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Re: Primary schools back june 1st

Postby castleblue » Sat May 16, 2020 11:01 am

moonboots wrote:
castleblue wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:What's happening with schools in Wales?

Bethan Lewis

BBC Wales Family & Education Correspondent

On Thursday, Education Minister Kirsty Williams said schools wouldn’t reopen on 1 June
However the Welsh Government hasn't ruled out anything after the 'beginning of June', including later that month
The Welsh Government has promised at least three weeks' notice before a ‘phased’ return
A document on schools is due this week but there's no mention so far of it including any sort of timescale for reopening


It's looking like English schools only on June 1st which Boris did not mention in the broadcast.
Will Wales really defy Westminster ? Even with the 3 weeks they can still go back first week in June in Wales. Its likely that will happen as well

It's not a case of defying Westminster. Health and education, among other things, are devolved issues so we are perfectly entitled to make our own decisions. :thumbright:


They are doing it to justify there existance. Nothing to do with it being the correct call (which it may well be) it's all to do with forcing a wedge between the union which is why they did it Friday and Scotland are doing the same. It's pathetic and dangerous. If it was to do with making a decision they would have done it today after the announcement not friday.
They should all be working together as a country not sepersting us making it all harder for everybody

Welsh Labour and the DUP are Unionist parties so definitely not trying to force a wedge between the Union.
Johnson is a buffoon. Shallow and out of his depth. A coward who didn't have the balls to face Andrew Neil before the December election and now he's stopped his Ministers from facing Piers Morgan. If they can't answer tough questions from interviewers they shouldn't be in the job.
Personally I feel happy the the rest of the UK is taking a more cautious and sensible approach.

Are you sure that Welsh Labour is a Unionist party mate?
Personally, I think Boris is right re Piers Morgan as he just shouted over the people he was interviewing and constantly interrupted them or twisted what they were actually saying. Very rude and poor interviewing techniques.


Welsh Labour under Drakeford are about as Unionist as the SNP. Drakeford is a lifelong Republican and I can remember him saying on a TV interview that he he felt he could have "A Working Relationship with the Royal Family", not the Queen but the Royal Family and there in lies his true colours.

Ever since Drakeford helped Rhodri Morgan with his "Clear Red Water" vision for Wales he has been waiting for an opportunity to control ALL aspects of Welsh Society but, in my opinion, he has failed to understand that citizens rights are embedded in the UK Constitution and that he cannot introduce Law which takes away basic citizens right to Liberty, Privacy, Freedom of Conscience and Expression and to freedom of Association and Assembly.

Since Boris Johnson imposed the lockdown on the British Public he knows full well that we have consented to the temporary removal of our rights because of this unprecedented crisis, he even thanked us ALL during his TV speech Sunday evening. There has been no such acceptance from Drakeford and his cronies and if his "Vision" gets tested in the Supreme Court in London I believe he will get his arse kicked.

In my opinion this crisis has highlighted everything that is wrong with devolution and Drakeford is becoming the Poster Boy for the advert to reverse the devolution vote.

:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


Drakeford and Welsh Labour are definitely Unionists. He says so on their own government website. Some people like to believe certain things are true and then spread incorrect information.

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Written Statement: The future of the United Kingdom
Mark Drakeford AM, First Minister

First published:28 August 2019
Last updated:28 August 2019
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I strongly believe that Wales’ future is best served by being a part of the United Kingdom. The Welsh Government has consistently argued for changes to the settlement over the last two decades to both strengthen our parliament and government but also to strengthen the union.


https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2018-11- ... manifesto/

Here is the interview where Drakeford "States" he is a Republican and does NOT support the Royal Family. In the UK any Act Of Parliament requires "Royal Ascent" before becoming law. Drakeford wants to change that so the "Supreme" power is with our elected representatives AKA him. You can be both Pro Union and a republican but Drakeford is most certainly not and you will understand that if you read "Clear Red Water".

Drakeford will only be happy once he is Mr President of Wales, the Supreme Power, our biggest problem is he already believes he is.

:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:
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Re: Poll: Primary schools back june 1st

Postby rumpo kid » Sun May 17, 2020 10:49 am

I still find it odd Drakeford is anywhere near Govt.. I can only assume that Labour picked the thickest and most pliable idiot they had, put him up as a puppet, and somewhere behind the scenes is a brain.

I hope thats true, because if its not...well, it doesnt bare contemplation..
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Re: Primary schools back june 1st

Postby moonboots » Sun May 17, 2020 8:00 pm

castleblue wrote:
moonboots wrote:
castleblue wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:What's happening with schools in Wales?

Bethan Lewis

BBC Wales Family & Education Correspondent

On Thursday, Education Minister Kirsty Williams said schools wouldn’t reopen on 1 June
However the Welsh Government hasn't ruled out anything after the 'beginning of June', including later that month
The Welsh Government has promised at least three weeks' notice before a ‘phased’ return
A document on schools is due this week but there's no mention so far of it including any sort of timescale for reopening


It's looking like English schools only on June 1st which Boris did not mention in the broadcast.
Will Wales really defy Westminster ? Even with the 3 weeks they can still go back first week in June in Wales. Its likely that will happen as well

It's not a case of defying Westminster. Health and education, among other things, are devolved issues so we are perfectly entitled to make our own decisions. :thumbright:


They are doing it to justify there existance. Nothing to do with it being the correct call (which it may well be) it's all to do with forcing a wedge between the union which is why they did it Friday and Scotland are doing the same. It's pathetic and dangerous. If it was to do with making a decision they would have done it today after the announcement not friday.
They should all be working together as a country not sepersting us making it all harder for everybody

Welsh Labour and the DUP are Unionist parties so definitely not trying to force a wedge between the Union.
Johnson is a buffoon. Shallow and out of his depth. A coward who didn't have the balls to face Andrew Neil before the December election and now he's stopped his Ministers from facing Piers Morgan. If they can't answer tough questions from interviewers they shouldn't be in the job.
Personally I feel happy the the rest of the UK is taking a more cautious and sensible approach.

Are you sure that Welsh Labour is a Unionist party mate?
Personally, I think Boris is right re Piers Morgan as he just shouted over the people he was interviewing and constantly interrupted them or twisted what they were actually saying. Very rude and poor interviewing techniques.


Welsh Labour under Drakeford are about as Unionist as the SNP. Drakeford is a lifelong Republican and I can remember him saying on a TV interview that he he felt he could have "A Working Relationship with the Royal Family", not the Queen but the Royal Family and there in lies his true colours.

Ever since Drakeford helped Rhodri Morgan with his "Clear Red Water" vision for Wales he has been waiting for an opportunity to control ALL aspects of Welsh Society but, in my opinion, he has failed to understand that citizens rights are embedded in the UK Constitution and that he cannot introduce Law which takes away basic citizens right to Liberty, Privacy, Freedom of Conscience and Expression and to freedom of Association and Assembly.

Since Boris Johnson imposed the lockdown on the British Public he knows full well that we have consented to the temporary removal of our rights because of this unprecedented crisis, he even thanked us ALL during his TV speech Sunday evening. There has been no such acceptance from Drakeford and his cronies and if his "Vision" gets tested in the Supreme Court in London I believe he will get his arse kicked.

In my opinion this crisis has highlighted everything that is wrong with devolution and Drakeford is becoming the Poster Boy for the advert to reverse the devolution vote.

:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


Drakeford and Welsh Labour are definitely Unionists. He says so on their own government website. Some people like to believe certain things are true and then spread incorrect information.

--------------------------------------------------------------------

Written Statement: The future of the United Kingdom
Mark Drakeford AM, First Minister

First published:28 August 2019
Last updated:28 August 2019
Share this page
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I strongly believe that Wales’ future is best served by being a part of the United Kingdom. The Welsh Government has consistently argued for changes to the settlement over the last two decades to both strengthen our parliament and government but also to strengthen the union.


https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2018-11- ... manifesto/

Here is the interview where Drakeford "States" he is a Republican and does NOT support the Royal Family. In the UK any Act Of Parliament requires "Royal Ascent" before becoming law. Drakeford wants to change that so the "Supreme" power is with our elected representatives AKA him. You can be both Pro Union and a republican but Drakeford is most certainly not and you will understand that if you read "Clear Red Water".

Drakeford will only be happy once he is Mr President of Wales, the Supreme Power, our biggest problem is he already believes he is.

:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p08d900h


This is from about 2 days ago. Listen from 14 to 16 minutes. He clearly rejects nationalism in favour of being a part of the Union. His own very recent words on a national radio interview. He's a Unionist. NDAT.
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Re: Poll: Primary schools back june 1st

Postby BlueGog » Mon May 18, 2020 3:45 pm

Schools in Wales won't open until September, just like public schools in England...
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Re: Primary schools back june 1st

Postby Bluebina » Mon May 18, 2020 4:28 pm

bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
castleblue wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:What's happening with schools in Wales?

Bethan Lewis

BBC Wales Family & Education Correspondent

On Thursday, Education Minister Kirsty Williams said schools wouldn’t reopen on 1 June
However the Welsh Government hasn't ruled out anything after the 'beginning of June', including later that month
The Welsh Government has promised at least three weeks' notice before a ‘phased’ return
A document on schools is due this week but there's no mention so far of it including any sort of timescale for reopening


It's looking like English schools only on June 1st which Boris did not mention in the broadcast.
Will Wales really defy Westminster ? Even with the 3 weeks they can still go back first week in June in Wales. Its likely that will happen as well

It's not a case of defying Westminster. Health and education, among other things, are devolved issues so we are perfectly entitled to make our own decisions. :thumbright:


They are doing it to justify there existance. Nothing to do with it being the correct call (which it may well be) it's all to do with forcing a wedge between the union which is why they did it Friday and Scotland are doing the same. It's pathetic and dangerous. If it was to do with making a decision they would have done it today after the announcement not friday.
They should all be working together as a country not sepersting us making it all harder for everybody

Welsh Labour and the DUP are Unionist parties so definitely not trying to force a wedge between the Union.
Johnson is a buffoon. Shallow and out of his depth. A coward who didn't have the balls to face Andrew Neil before the December election and now he's stopped his Ministers from facing Piers Morgan. If they can't answer tough questions from interviewers they shouldn't be in the job.
Personally I feel happy the the rest of the UK is taking a more cautious and sensible approach.

Are you sure that Welsh Labour is a Unionist party mate?
Personally, I think Boris is right re Piers Morgan as he just shouted over the people he was interviewing and constantly interrupted them or twisted what they were actually saying. Very rude and poor interviewing techniques.


Welsh Labour under Drakeford are about as Unionist as the SNP. Drakeford is a lifelong Republican and I can remember him saying on a TV interview that he he felt he could have "A Working Relationship with the Royal Family", not the Queen but the Royal Family and there in lies his true colours.

Ever since Drakeford helped Rhodri Morgan with his "Clear Red Water" vision for Wales he has been waiting for an opportunity to control ALL aspects of Welsh Society but, in my opinion, he has failed to understand that citizens rights are embedded in the UK Constitution and that he cannot introduce Law which takes away basic citizens right to Liberty, Privacy, Freedom of Conscience and Expression and to freedom of Association and Assembly.

Since Boris Johnson imposed the lockdown on the British Public he knows full well that we have consented to the temporary removal of our rights because of this unprecedented crisis, he even thanked us ALL during his TV speech Sunday evening. There has been no such acceptance from Drakeford and his cronies and if his "Vision" gets tested in the Supreme Court in London I believe he will get his arse kicked.

In my opinion this crisis has highlighted everything that is wrong with devolution and Drakeford is becoming the Poster Boy for the advert to reverse the devolution vote.

:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

That's what I thought mate :bluescarf:


Agreed he is a tool, the quicker we abolish devolution in Wales the better!
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Re: Poll: Primary schools back june 1st

Postby skidemin » Mon May 18, 2020 4:55 pm

BlueGog wrote:Schools in Wales won't open until September, just like public schools in England...



so 1 in 1266 Belgians dying is a lower rate than 1 in 1973 in the UK... its not ...honest..
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Postby snoopystorm » Mon May 18, 2020 7:02 pm

My kids won’t be going back, my youngest has asthma and every cold she gets goes to her chest and my 13yo also has asthma but has it in cycles (same as me) and as such she won’t be going back either until I’m confident they will be safe, can’t risk them getting this evil disease.
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Postby goats » Mon May 18, 2020 9:30 pm

BlueGog wrote:Schools in Wales won't open until September, just like public schools in England...


Can you imagine the support kids in public schools will be getting? Video lessons and personal zoom calls everyday probably.....none of that here as welsh kids fall further behind. Quite enjoying teaching mine at home.
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Postby pembroke allan » Mon May 18, 2020 10:21 pm

After the incident in france be lucky to open next summer... :old:
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Postby castleblue » Tue May 19, 2020 9:14 am

moonboots wrote:
castleblue wrote:
moonboots wrote:
castleblue wrote:
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:
moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
moonboots wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:What's happening with schools in Wales?

Bethan Lewis

BBC Wales Family & Education Correspondent

On Thursday, Education Minister Kirsty Williams said schools wouldn’t reopen on 1 June
However the Welsh Government hasn't ruled out anything after the 'beginning of June', including later that month
The Welsh Government has promised at least three weeks' notice before a ‘phased’ return
A document on schools is due this week but there's no mention so far of it including any sort of timescale for reopening


It's looking like English schools only on June 1st which Boris did not mention in the broadcast.
Will Wales really defy Westminster ? Even with the 3 weeks they can still go back first week in June in Wales. Its likely that will happen as well

It's not a case of defying Westminster. Health and education, among other things, are devolved issues so we are perfectly entitled to make our own decisions. :thumbright:


They are doing it to justify there existance. Nothing to do with it being the correct call (which it may well be) it's all to do with forcing a wedge between the union which is why they did it Friday and Scotland are doing the same. It's pathetic and dangerous. If it was to do with making a decision they would have done it today after the announcement not friday.
They should all be working together as a country not sepersting us making it all harder for everybody

Welsh Labour and the DUP are Unionist parties so definitely not trying to force a wedge between the Union.
Johnson is a buffoon. Shallow and out of his depth. A coward who didn't have the balls to face Andrew Neil before the December election and now he's stopped his Ministers from facing Piers Morgan. If they can't answer tough questions from interviewers they shouldn't be in the job.
Personally I feel happy the the rest of the UK is taking a more cautious and sensible approach.

Are you sure that Welsh Labour is a Unionist party mate?
Personally, I think Boris is right re Piers Morgan as he just shouted over the people he was interviewing and constantly interrupted them or twisted what they were actually saying. Very rude and poor interviewing techniques.


Welsh Labour under Drakeford are about as Unionist as the SNP. Drakeford is a lifelong Republican and I can remember him saying on a TV interview that he he felt he could have "A Working Relationship with the Royal Family", not the Queen but the Royal Family and there in lies his true colours.

Ever since Drakeford helped Rhodri Morgan with his "Clear Red Water" vision for Wales he has been waiting for an opportunity to control ALL aspects of Welsh Society but, in my opinion, he has failed to understand that citizens rights are embedded in the UK Constitution and that he cannot introduce Law which takes away basic citizens right to Liberty, Privacy, Freedom of Conscience and Expression and to freedom of Association and Assembly.

Since Boris Johnson imposed the lockdown on the British Public he knows full well that we have consented to the temporary removal of our rights because of this unprecedented crisis, he even thanked us ALL during his TV speech Sunday evening. There has been no such acceptance from Drakeford and his cronies and if his "Vision" gets tested in the Supreme Court in London I believe he will get his arse kicked.

In my opinion this crisis has highlighted everything that is wrong with devolution and Drakeford is becoming the Poster Boy for the advert to reverse the devolution vote.

:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


Drakeford and Welsh Labour are definitely Unionists. He says so on their own government website. Some people like to believe certain things are true and then spread incorrect information.

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I strongly believe that Wales’ future is best served by being a part of the United Kingdom. The Welsh Government has consistently argued for changes to the settlement over the last two decades to both strengthen our parliament and government but also to strengthen the union.


https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2018-11- ... manifesto/

Here is the interview where Drakeford "States" he is a Republican and does NOT support the Royal Family. In the UK any Act Of Parliament requires "Royal Ascent" before becoming law. Drakeford wants to change that so the "Supreme" power is with our elected representatives AKA him. You can be both Pro Union and a republican but Drakeford is most certainly not and you will understand that if you read "Clear Red Water".

Drakeford will only be happy once he is Mr President of Wales, the Supreme Power, our biggest problem is he already believes he is.

:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p08d900h


This is from about 2 days ago. Listen from 14 to 16 minutes. He clearly rejects nationalism in favour of being a part of the Union. His own very recent words on a national radio interview. He's a Unionist. NDAT.


Well in my experience politicians don't always tell the truth but their actions define their political bias absolutely. If you read "Clear Red Water" a book setting out how Labour in Wales could take a different path to Labour in Westminster it even promotes the UK Labour party splitting into Labour England, Labour Scotland and Labour Wales, 3 parties within 1 in a "Federal" arrangement. Imagine what the Welsh Labour Government feel after 10 years of Conservative Government in Westminster?

Drakeford claims in that interview that the UK is stronger acting together and yet during this crisis his government has decided to plough a lone path when it comes to coronavirus testing in Wales. This Welsh Labour Government has set testing targets and failed to meet them day after day, he then decided to abandon targets at a time when the UK Government was increasing their testing capacity massively Why? You could say the same about the UK government Test, Track & Trace APP not good enough for our Welsh Government. They have spent over £40k trying to develop an App for use in Wales to Test, Track & Protect. What's that all about difference for difference sake if you ask me and it's purely based on the vision of " Clear Red Water" and Drakeford is a disciple to it.

Sorry we will have to agree to disagree Drakeford is a Republican to his core and his actions through this pandemic crisis highlight he holds little or no respect for the UK Prime Minister & Government. Whichever Political Party is in power.


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Postby TopCat CCFC » Wed May 20, 2020 3:01 pm

No 'arbitrary date' for school return

Ms Williams says she will not set “an arbitrary date” for when children return to school in Wales.

She said more evidence was needed about the progression of the pandemic.

Ms Williams said the government would also need to see the development of the test, trace and protect regime before letting children to return to the classroom.

She added: "Let me be clear, when a decision is made to have more of our children return to school, you will hear that directly from me.”
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Postby jimmy_rat » Wed May 20, 2020 3:20 pm

TopCat CCFC wrote:No 'arbitrary date' for school return

Ms Williams says she will not set “an arbitrary date” for when children return to school in Wales.

She said more evidence was needed about the progression of the pandemic.

Ms Williams said the government would also need to see the development of the test, trace and protect regime before letting children to return to the classroom.

She added: "Let me be clear, when a decision is made to have more of our children return to school, you will hear that directly from me.”


So basically a few days after England go back then.

Trying to justify their own existence once again.
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Postby moonboots » Wed May 20, 2020 3:38 pm

FAO castleblue as I can't embed another comment.
Proof, if ever it was needed, that proper debate and provision of cast iron evidence (from the horses mouth) is a pointless exercise on here. I've proved by an official statement on Welsh government website and from his own mouth, a very strong rebuttal of nationalism yet you still disagree and believe that Drakeford is not a Unionist.
Let's be honest it couldn't be much clearer but if you want to believe otherwise that is entirely up to you. I find your standpoint unbelievable given the evidence but at the end of the day we both support the City :bluescarf:
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Postby moonboots » Wed May 20, 2020 3:50 pm

jimmy_rat wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:No 'arbitrary date' for school return

Ms Williams says she will not set “an arbitrary date” for when children return to school in Wales.

She said more evidence was needed about the progression of the pandemic.

Ms Williams said the government would also need to see the development of the test, trace and protect regime before letting children to return to the classroom.

She added: "Let me be clear, when a decision is made to have more of our children return to school, you will hear that directly from me.”


So basically a few days after England go back then.

Trying to justify their own existence once again.


It won't be a few days after england, it will be weeks after, when it's safe to do so. England has proved that by setting a target date it can backfire. Lots of people in england unhappy with early return to school, including many councils who are refusing to do so.
Education is devolved and Welsh government is entitled to do things in the best way to keep Welsh citizens safe.
So many Welsh haters on here. Shows lack of confidence in our own abilities. The people of Wales are amazing but after continuously being told we are not good enough it's no wonder we lack confidence in ourselves.
By the way, many thanks for all the live streaming links you've posted on here. Much appreciated :thumbup:
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Re: Poll: Primary schools back june 1st

Postby jimmy_rat » Wed May 20, 2020 4:09 pm

moonboots wrote:
jimmy_rat wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:No 'arbitrary date' for school return

Ms Williams says she will not set “an arbitrary date” for when children return to school in Wales.

She said more evidence was needed about the progression of the pandemic.

Ms Williams said the government would also need to see the development of the test, trace and protect regime before letting children to return to the classroom.

She added: "Let me be clear, when a decision is made to have more of our children return to school, you will hear that directly from me.”


So basically a few days after England go back then.

Trying to justify their own existence once again.


It won't be a few days after england, it will be weeks after, when it's safe to do so. England has proved that by setting a target date it can backfire. Lots of people in england unhappy with early return to school, including many councils who are refusing to do so.
Education is devolved and Welsh government is entitled to do things in the best way to keep Welsh citizens safe.
So many Welsh haters on here. Shows lack of confidence in our own abilities. The people of Wales are amazing but after continuously being told we are not good enough it's no wonder we lack confidence in ourselves.
By the way, many thanks for all the live streaming links you've posted on here. Much appreciated :thumbup:


Haha, No probs mate. Hopefully won't need to when any football restarts.

And Welsh 'Government' haters please. Education is devolved and of the poorest standards in the UK. I don't believe the children in Wales are any different to the rest of the UK but they are being let down somewhere?!
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Postby pembroke allan » Wed May 20, 2020 4:25 pm

jimmy_rat wrote:
moonboots wrote:
jimmy_rat wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:No 'arbitrary date' for school return

Ms Williams says she will not set “an arbitrary date” for when children return to school in Wales.

She said more evidence was needed about the progression of the pandemic.

Ms Williams said the government would also need to see the development of the test, trace and protect regime before letting children to return to the classroom.

She added: "Let me be clear, when a decision is made to have more of our children return to school, you will hear that directly from me.”


So basically a few days after England go back then.

Trying to justify their own existence once again.


It won't be a few days after england, it will be weeks after, when it's safe to do so. England has proved that by setting a target date it can backfire. Lots of people in england unhappy with early return to school, including many councils who are refusing to do so.
Education is devolved and Welsh government is entitled to do things in the best way to keep Welsh citizens safe.
So many Welsh haters on here. Shows lack of confidence in our own abilities. The people of Wales are amazing but after continuously being told we are not good enough it's no wonder we lack confidence in ourselves.
By the way, many thanks for all the live streaming links you've posted on here. Much appreciated :thumbup:


Haha, No probs mate. Hopefully won't need to when any football restarts.

And Welsh 'Government' haters please. Education is devolved and of the poorest standards in the UK. I don't believe the children in Wales are any different to the rest of the UK but they are being let down somewhere?!



Drakeford is boasting boris plan is falling down because unions dont want teachers in school until they say so! And this is why he set no date for return, In other words hes waiting until England eventually go back then he'll announce Wales do same and take credit for waiting..... :roll:
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Re: Poll: Primary schools back june 1st

Postby skidemin » Wed May 20, 2020 4:42 pm

moonboots wrote:
jimmy_rat wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:No 'arbitrary date' for school return

Ms Williams says she will not set “an arbitrary date” for when children return to school in Wales.

She said more evidence was needed about the progression of the pandemic.

Ms Williams said the government would also need to see the development of the test, trace and protect regime before letting children to return to the classroom.

She added: "Let me be clear, when a decision is made to have more of our children return to school, you will hear that directly from me.”


So basically a few days after England go back then.

Trying to justify their own existence once again.


It won't be a few days after england, it will be weeks after, when it's safe to do so. England has proved that by setting a target date it can backfire. Lots of people in england unhappy with early return to school, including many councils who are refusing to do so.
Education is devolved and Welsh government is entitled to do things in the best way to keep Welsh citizens safe.
So many Welsh haters on here. Shows lack of confidence in our own abilities. The people of Wales are amazing but after continuously being told we are not good enough it's no wonder we lack confidence in ourselves.
By the way, many thanks for all the live streaming links you've posted on here. Much appreciated :thumbup:



Welsh haters..? I haven't been constantly told im not good enough, im sure most haven't..
are you sure its because your welsh
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Re: Poll: Primary schools back june 1st

Postby moonboots » Wed May 20, 2020 6:59 pm

skidemin wrote:
moonboots wrote:
jimmy_rat wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:No 'arbitrary date' for school return

Ms Williams says she will not set “an arbitrary date” for when children return to school in Wales.

She said more evidence was needed about the progression of the pandemic.

Ms Williams said the government would also need to see the development of the test, trace and protect regime before letting children to return to the classroom.

She added: "Let me be clear, when a decision is made to have more of our children return to school, you will hear that directly from me.”


So basically a few days after England go back then.

Trying to justify their own existence once again.


It won't be a few days after england, it will be weeks after, when it's safe to do so. England has proved that by setting a target date it can backfire. Lots of people in england unhappy with early return to school, including many councils who are refusing to do so.
Education is devolved and Welsh government is entitled to do things in the best way to keep Welsh citizens safe.
So many Welsh haters on here. Shows lack of confidence in our own abilities. The people of Wales are amazing but after continuously being told we are not good enough it's no wonder we lack confidence in ourselves.
By the way, many thanks for all the live streaming links you've posted on here. Much appreciated :thumbup:



Welsh haters..? I haven't been constantly told im not good enough, im sure most haven't..
are you sure its because your welsh


Nah mate, I wasn't talking personally. I find it's best to try and avoid that. Things can get a bit nasty and then reasonable debate goes out of the window. I was talking generally that I've heard it said a thousand times in conversations and on websites. You must have heard it too......Wales will never be independent...it's too small, it's too poor, we haven't got the talent etc etc. It's rife on here and just confirms the sort of discourse I've heard throughout my lifetime. With many people they just repeat the thoughts of others without giving it much thought themselves, and before you know it it's "official".....Wales can never be independent.
It must simply stem from a lack of confidence, a lack of self worth. I struggle to think of another country with such a level of self loathing, that it prefers to be run by a neighbouring country instead of running it's own affairs. I always find that very weird.
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Postby TopCat CCFC » Thu May 21, 2020 6:36 pm

Two pupils with coronavirus force school to close

Hamford Primary Academy in Walton-on-the-Naze, Essex, has closed after two children tested positive for coronavirus.

The two pupils had not shown any symptoms and had been at the school last week.

A spokeswoman for the school said "the safety of our children, families, and community" was behind the decision.
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Re: Poll: Primary schools back june 1st

Postby BlueGog » Thu May 21, 2020 8:28 pm

moonboots wrote:
skidemin wrote:
moonboots wrote:
jimmy_rat wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:No 'arbitrary date' for school return

Ms Williams says she will not set “an arbitrary date” for when children return to school in Wales.

She said more evidence was needed about the progression of the pandemic.

Ms Williams said the government would also need to see the development of the test, trace and protect regime before letting children to return to the classroom.

She added: "Let me be clear, when a decision is made to have more of our children return to school, you will hear that directly from me.”


So basically a few days after England go back then.

Trying to justify their own existence once again.


It won't be a few days after england, it will be weeks after, when it's safe to do so. England has proved that by setting a target date it can backfire. Lots of people in england unhappy with early return to school, including many councils who are refusing to do so.
Education is devolved and Welsh government is entitled to do things in the best way to keep Welsh citizens safe.
So many Welsh haters on here. Shows lack of confidence in our own abilities. The people of Wales are amazing but after continuously being told we are not good enough it's no wonder we lack confidence in ourselves.
By the way, many thanks for all the live streaming links you've posted on here. Much appreciated :thumbup:



Welsh haters..? I haven't been constantly told im not good enough, im sure most haven't..
are you sure its because your welsh


Nah mate, I wasn't talking personally. I find it's best to try and avoid that. Things can get a bit nasty and then reasonable debate goes out of the window. I was talking generally that I've heard it said a thousand times in conversations and on websites. You must have heard it too......Wales will never be independent...it's too small, it's too poor, we haven't got the talent etc etc. It's rife on here and just confirms the sort of discourse I've heard throughout my lifetime. With many people they just repeat the thoughts of others without giving it much thought themselves, and before you know it it's "official".....Wales can never be independent.
It must simply stem from a lack of confidence, a lack of self worth. I struggle to think of another country with such a level of self loathing, that it prefers to be run by a neighbouring country instead of running it's own affairs. I always find that very weird.


Well said Moonboots. Many here in Wales and especially on this forum suffer from Stockholm Syndrome.
If this present crisis has taught us anything - Wales is big enough, clever enough and that's with a Labour Government, just think what we could achieve with a government who would put Wales and its people first every time.

Cue the Stockholms... :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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Postby bluebirdoct1962 » Fri May 22, 2020 11:17 am

moonboots wrote:
skidemin wrote:
moonboots wrote:
jimmy_rat wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:No 'arbitrary date' for school return

Ms Williams says she will not set “an arbitrary date” for when children return to school in Wales.

She said more evidence was needed about the progression of the pandemic.

Ms Williams said the government would also need to see the development of the test, trace and protect regime before letting children to return to the classroom.

She added: "Let me be clear, when a decision is made to have more of our children return to school, you will hear that directly from me.”


So basically a few days after England go back then.

Trying to justify their own existence once again.


It won't be a few days after england, it will be weeks after, when it's safe to do so. England has proved that by setting a target date it can backfire. Lots of people in england unhappy with early return to school, including many councils who are refusing to do so.
Education is devolved and Welsh government is entitled to do things in the best way to keep Welsh citizens safe.
So many Welsh haters on here. Shows lack of confidence in our own abilities. The people of Wales are amazing but after continuously being told we are not good enough it's no wonder we lack confidence in ourselves.
By the way, many thanks for all the live streaming links you've posted on here. Much appreciated :thumbup:



Welsh haters..? I haven't been constantly told im not good enough, im sure most haven't..
are you sure its because your welsh


Nah mate, I wasn't talking personally. I find it's best to try and avoid that. Things can get a bit nasty and then reasonable debate goes out of the window. I was talking generally that I've heard it said a thousand times in conversations and on websites. You must have heard it too......Wales will never be independent...it's too small, it's too poor, we haven't got the talent etc etc. It's rife on here and just confirms the sort of discourse I've heard throughout my lifetime. With many people they just repeat the thoughts of others without giving it much thought themselves, and before you know it it's "official".....Wales can never be independent.
It must simply stem from a lack of confidence, a lack of self worth. I struggle to think of another country with such a level of self loathing, that it prefers to be run by a neighbouring country instead of running it's own affairs. I always find that very weird.

My opinion is that unfortunately there are some that are blinded by the fact that the Welsh flag is being waved vociferously, regardless of the intentions of those in the WAG who are waving it.
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Re: Poll: Primary schools back june 1st

Postby skidemin » Fri May 22, 2020 4:33 pm

BlueGog wrote:
moonboots wrote:
skidemin wrote:
moonboots wrote:
jimmy_rat wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:No 'arbitrary date' for school return

Ms Williams says she will not set “an arbitrary date” for when children return to school in Wales.

She said more evidence was needed about the progression of the pandemic.

Ms Williams said the government would also need to see the development of the test, trace and protect regime before letting children to return to the classroom.

She added: "Let me be clear, when a decision is made to have more of our children return to school, you will hear that directly from me.”


So basically a few days after England go back then.

Trying to justify their own existence once again.


It won't be a few days after england, it will be weeks after, when it's safe to do so. England has proved that by setting a target date it can backfire. Lots of people in england unhappy with early return to school, including many councils who are refusing to do so.
Education is devolved and Welsh government is entitled to do things in the best way to keep Welsh citizens safe.
So many Welsh haters on here. Shows lack of confidence in our own abilities. The people of Wales are amazing but after continuously being told we are not good enough it's no wonder we lack confidence in ourselves.
By the way, many thanks for all the live streaming links you've posted on here. Much appreciated :thumbup:



Welsh haters..? I haven't been constantly told im not good enough, im sure most haven't..
are you sure its because your welsh


Nah mate, I wasn't talking personally. I find it's best to try and avoid that. Things can get a bit nasty and then reasonable debate goes out of the window. I was talking generally that I've heard it said a thousand times in conversations and on websites. You must have heard it too......Wales will never be independent...it's too small, it's too poor, we haven't got the talent etc etc. It's rife on here and just confirms the sort of discourse I've heard throughout my lifetime. With many people they just repeat the thoughts of others without giving it much thought themselves, and before you know it it's "official".....Wales can never be independent.
It must simply stem from a lack of confidence, a lack of self worth. I struggle to think of another country with such a level of self loathing, that it prefers to be run by a neighbouring country instead of running it's own affairs. I always find that very weird.


Well said Moonboots. Many here in Wales and especially on this forum suffer from Stockholm Syndrome.
If this present crisis has taught us anything - Wales is big enough, clever enough and that's with a Labour Government, just think what we could achieve with a government who would put Wales and its people first every time.

Cue the Stockholms... :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:



I wonder if the boot was on the other foot and it was Boris oppressing us how different your reactions would be...?
anyway I am awaiting the official announcement on how one of the field hospitals { god knows how many wasted millions } has fckd up ventilation has been identified as a fire risk and is being dismantled...
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Re: Poll: Primary schools back june 1st

Postby skidemin » Fri May 22, 2020 4:40 pm

BlueGog wrote:
moonboots wrote:
skidemin wrote:
moonboots wrote:
jimmy_rat wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:No 'arbitrary date' for school return

Ms Williams says she will not set “an arbitrary date” for when children return to school in Wales.

She said more evidence was needed about the progression of the pandemic.

Ms Williams said the government would also need to see the development of the test, trace and protect regime before letting children to return to the classroom.

She added: "Let me be clear, when a decision is made to have more of our children return to school, you will hear that directly from me.”


So basically a few days after England go back then.

Trying to justify their own existence once again.


It won't be a few days after england, it will be weeks after, when it's safe to do so. England has proved that by setting a target date it can backfire. Lots of people in england unhappy with early return to school, including many councils who are refusing to do so.
Education is devolved and Welsh government is entitled to do things in the best way to keep Welsh citizens safe.
So many Welsh haters on here. Shows lack of confidence in our own abilities. The people of Wales are amazing but after continuously being told we are not good enough it's no wonder we lack confidence in ourselves.
By the way, many thanks for all the live streaming links you've posted on here. Much appreciated :thumbup:



Welsh haters..? I haven't been constantly told im not good enough, im sure most haven't..
are you sure its because your welsh


Nah mate, I wasn't talking personally. I find it's best to try and avoid that. Things can get a bit nasty and then reasonable debate goes out of the window. I was talking generally that I've heard it said a thousand times in conversations and on websites. You must have heard it too......Wales will never be independent...it's too small, it's too poor, we haven't got the talent etc etc. It's rife on here and just confirms the sort of discourse I've heard throughout my lifetime. With many people they just repeat the thoughts of others without giving it much thought themselves, and before you know it it's "official".....Wales can never be independent.
It must simply stem from a lack of confidence, a lack of self worth. I struggle to think of another country with such a level of self loathing, that it prefers to be run by a neighbouring country instead of running it's own affairs. I always find that very weird.


Well said Moonboots. Many here in Wales and especially on this forum suffer from Stockholm Syndrome.
If this present crisis has taught us anything - Wales is big enough, clever enough and that's with a Labour Government, just think what we could achieve with a government who would put Wales and its people first every time.

Cue the Stockholms... :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:



I feel Welsh enough without making myself feel 2nd rate / not good enough { not things ive been told by English people }because a bunch of nutters think that's what being Welsh means ..
its so ironic that the most oppressed this nation has ever been is under a Welsh government.. and you exzcuse it. :lol: :lol:
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Re: Poll: Primary schools back june 1st

Postby moonboots » Fri May 22, 2020 9:21 pm

jimmy_rat wrote:
moonboots wrote:
jimmy_rat wrote:
TopCat CCFC wrote:No 'arbitrary date' for school return

Ms Williams says she will not set “an arbitrary date” for when children return to school in Wales.

She said more evidence was needed about the progression of the pandemic.

Ms Williams said the government would also need to see the development of the test, trace and protect regime before letting children to return to the classroom.

She added: "Let me be clear, when a decision is made to have more of our children return to school, you will hear that directly from me.”


So basically a few days after England go back then.

Trying to justify their own existence once again.


It won't be a few days after england, it will be weeks after, when it's safe to do so. England has proved that by setting a target date it can backfire. Lots of people in england unhappy with early return to school, including many councils who are refusing to do so.
Education is devolved and Welsh government is entitled to do things in the best way to keep Welsh citizens safe.
So many Welsh haters on here. Shows lack of confidence in our own abilities. The people of Wales are amazing but after continuously being told we are not good enough it's no wonder we lack confidence in ourselves.
By the way, many thanks for all the live streaming links you've posted on here. Much appreciated :thumbup:


Haha, No probs mate. Hopefully won't need to when any football restarts.

And Welsh 'Government' haters please. Education is devolved and of the poorest standards in the UK. I don't believe the children in Wales are any different to the rest of the UK but they are being let down somewhere?!


Yes hopefully wall to wall football free to air :bluescarf:
Welsh education system is being completely overhauled. These things take time to show by the way of improved results but confident of the future for Welsh kids. :thumbup:
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