Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:19 am
Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:42 am
Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:40 pm
glas wrote:If we all had hindsight how easy everything would be. All these experts, many who have no responsibility for anything constantly criticise those who have to make decisions.
Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:38 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:glas wrote:If we all had hindsight how easy everything would be. All these experts, many who have no responsibility for anything constantly criticise those who have to make decisions.
Very true.
I remember about 6 weeks hearing a radio debate where Sweden was held up as an example to the rest of Europe as how to manage the crisis. With hindsight that opinion was wrong also!
Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:19 pm
Bluebina wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:glas wrote:If we all had hindsight how easy everything would be. All these experts, many who have no responsibility for anything constantly criticise those who have to make decisions.
Very true.
I remember about 6 weeks hearing a radio debate where Sweden was held up as an example to the rest of Europe as how to manage the crisis. With hindsight that opinion was wrong also!
We won't really know how this will all play out, it might be that they have slightly more deaths than some countries now, but have far fewer mental health issues and a far better economy, it's really going to depend on your perspective when evaluating these decisions.
Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:42 pm
Bluebina wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:glas wrote:If we all had hindsight how easy everything would be. All these experts, many who have no responsibility for anything constantly criticise those who have to make decisions.
Very true.
I remember about 6 weeks hearing a radio debate where Sweden was held up as an example to the rest of Europe as how to manage the crisis. With hindsight that opinion was wrong also!
We won't really know how this will all play out, it might be that they have slightly more deaths than some countries now, but have far fewer mental health issues and a far better economy, it's really going to depend on your perspective when evaluating these decisions.
Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:51 pm
goats wrote:Bluebina wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:glas wrote:If we all had hindsight how easy everything would be. All these experts, many who have no responsibility for anything constantly criticise those who have to make decisions.
Very true.
I remember about 6 weeks hearing a radio debate where Sweden was held up as an example to the rest of Europe as how to manage the crisis. With hindsight that opinion was wrong also!
We won't really know how this will all play out, it might be that they have slightly more deaths than some countries now, but have far fewer mental health issues and a far better economy, it's really going to depend on your perspective when evaluating these decisions.
They could have more immunity now also for the future, we just don’t know.
The other day Norway wondered.....
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/0 ... =DM1251860
Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:02 pm
goats wrote:Bluebina wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:glas wrote:If we all had hindsight how easy everything would be. All these experts, many who have no responsibility for anything constantly criticise those who have to make decisions.
Very true.
I remember about 6 weeks hearing a radio debate where Sweden was held up as an example to the rest of Europe as how to manage the crisis. With hindsight that opinion was wrong also!
We won't really know how this will all play out, it might be that they have slightly more deaths than some countries now, but have far fewer mental health issues and a far better economy, it's really going to depend on your perspective when evaluating these decisions.
They could have more immunity now also for the future, we just don’t know.
The other day Norway wondered.....
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/0 ... =DM1251860
Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:29 am
epping blue wrote:goats wrote:Bluebina wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:glas wrote:If we all had hindsight how easy everything would be. All these experts, many who have no responsibility for anything constantly criticise those who have to make decisions.
Very true.
I remember about 6 weeks hearing a radio debate where Sweden was held up as an example to the rest of Europe as how to manage the crisis. With hindsight that opinion was wrong also!
We won't really know how this will all play out, it might be that they have slightly more deaths than some countries now, but have far fewer mental health issues and a far better economy, it's really going to depend on your perspective when evaluating these decisions.
They could have more immunity now also for the future, we just don’t know.
The other day Norway wondered.....
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/0 ... =DM1251860
Just shows how difficult it is to get the approach right. Sweden wishing they'd been more like Norway while Norway wishing they'd been a bit more like Sweden. The countries that have weathered this well, have in many cases not weathered it at all. They've been brilliant at keeping it out. Less densely populated areas will always deal with this better and islands have a natural defence and will deal with it better still. There was a Greek official on the radio the other day saying that three quarters of Greek islands have had zero infections. I wasn't sure that was a good thing although its better than listening to our grimly toll every day. As for Sweden, they may have still got someway to go in terms of achieving a protective immunity.
There might not have been an official lockdown but a fair proportion of the population did so anyway.
My wife's getting the antibody test tomorrow as part of being employed by the NHS and I had to send one of my labourers home today with a sore throat. He's booked a test so I'm hoping it comes back ok.
Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:33 am
bluesince62 wrote:epping blue wrote:goats wrote:Bluebina wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:glas wrote:If we all had hindsight how easy everything would be. All these experts, many who have no responsibility for anything constantly criticise those who have to make decisions.
Very true.
I remember about 6 weeks hearing a radio debate where Sweden was held up as an example to the rest of Europe as how to manage the crisis. With hindsight that opinion was wrong also!
We won't really know how this will all play out, it might be that they have slightly more deaths than some countries now, but have far fewer mental health issues and a far better economy, it's really going to depend on your perspective when evaluating these decisions.
They could have more immunity now also for the future, we just don’t know.
The other day Norway wondered.....
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/0 ... =DM1251860
Just shows how difficult it is to get the approach right. Sweden wishing they'd been more like Norway while Norway wishing they'd been a bit more like Sweden. The countries that have weathered this well, have in many cases not weathered it at all. They've been brilliant at keeping it out. Less densely populated areas will always deal with this better and islands have a natural defence and will deal with it better still. There was a Greek official on the radio the other day saying that three quarters of Greek islands have had zero infections. I wasn't sure that was a good thing although its better than listening to our grimly toll every day. As for Sweden, they may have still got someway to go in terms of achieving a protective immunity.
There might not have been an official lockdown but a fair proportion of the population did so anyway.
My wife's getting the antibody test tomorrow as part of being employed by the NHS and I had to send one of my labourers home today with a sore throat. He's booked a test so I'm hoping it comes back ok.
Firstly, good luck to both your wife and labourer I am of the belief that heat plays a factor in either slowing,or dissapating the virus? Turkey has a population of around 84m,although their average age there is around 32,the have about 10% of the population over 70,so roughly 8.4m,yet with a different approach to locking the whole country down,they keep under 16 and over 65yr old in lockdown,but today started to open cafes and restaurants (with social distancing ) but back to the heat thing, they have just had the hottest may for nearly 80 years! And here is why I believe heat (sunshine) plays a big part there,as they have on about 4,500 deaths!! I could be way off the mark,and it could be just coincidence, but Greece has manged quite well too,and they are neighbours? We have a death rate over ten times higher,than a country that has nearly 20m more people?
Thu Jun 04, 2020 1:20 pm
bluesince62 wrote:epping blue wrote:goats wrote:Bluebina wrote:Tony Blue Williams wrote:glas wrote:If we all had hindsight how easy everything would be. All these experts, many who have no responsibility for anything constantly criticise those who have to make decisions.
Very true.
I remember about 6 weeks hearing a radio debate where Sweden was held up as an example to the rest of Europe as how to manage the crisis. With hindsight that opinion was wrong also!
We won't really know how this will all play out, it might be that they have slightly more deaths than some countries now, but have far fewer mental health issues and a far better economy, it's really going to depend on your perspective when evaluating these decisions.
They could have more immunity now also for the future, we just don’t know.
The other day Norway wondered.....
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/0 ... =DM1251860
Just shows how difficult it is to get the approach right. Sweden wishing they'd been more like Norway while Norway wishing they'd been a bit more like Sweden. The countries that have weathered this well, have in many cases not weathered it at all. They've been brilliant at keeping it out. Less densely populated areas will always deal with this better and islands have a natural defence and will deal with it better still. There was a Greek official on the radio the other day saying that three quarters of Greek islands have had zero infections. I wasn't sure that was a good thing although its better than listening to our grimly toll every day. As for Sweden, they may have still got someway to go in terms of achieving a protective immunity.
There might not have been an official lockdown but a fair proportion of the population did so anyway.
My wife's getting the antibody test tomorrow as part of being employed by the NHS and I had to send one of my labourers home today with a sore throat. He's booked a test so I'm hoping it comes back ok.
Firstly, good luck to both your wife and labourer I am of the belief that heat plays a factor in either slowing,or dissapating the virus? Turkey has a population of around 84m,although their average age there is around 32,the have about 10% of the population over 70,so roughly 8.4m,yet with a different approach to locking the whole country down,they keep under 16 and over 65yr old in lockdown,but today started to open cafes and restaurants (with social distancing ) but back to the heat thing, they have just had the hottest may for nearly 80 years! And here is why I believe heat (sunshine) plays a big part there,as they have on about 4,500 deaths!! I could be way off the mark,and it could be just coincidence, but Greece has manged quite well too,and they are neighbours? We have a death rate over ten times higher,than a country that has nearly 20m more people?
Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:24 am