Our Leader Drakeford

So it’s pretty unanimous then, according to virtually everyone on this board the man is a buffoon

Drakeford out

But virtually everyone on here appears out of step with the latest opinions. Apparently the buffoon Drakeford is on the up, passing Bojo who's dropping like a brick. Most in Wales approve of the cautious approach by the Welsh government, led by buffoon Drakeford. Apparently the Welsh government led by buffoon Drakeford wins in the trust department too with Boris and his bedraggled crew being found out as a bunch of world beating liars. But as most on here seem to be Boris fans and Drakeford haters feel free to carry on the delusion....while in the real world....

Most people asked are to scared to go outside door and don't want to go to work or school in this nice weather, ask the holiday centres and the like you probably get different answer because there wont be much left by time he decides to do anything? Ask yourself this Wales is 3/4 wks behind rest uk for opening up anything! when he does decide its already been done elsewhere without any ill effects so why can scots England N.irish do it and drakeford can't? Why leave it weeks and later he does same thing boris did using same type experts used by boris?

English playing Russian roulette. Wales has a much lower rate of excess deaths despite having an older, poorer and sicker population than England. Tories have no right to gamble with people's lives. Wales pretty much doing it right...vast majority of Welsh citizens behind him.

In my admittedly limited social circle I do not know of any Welsh citizens who are behind him.

So when do you think it would be right for the lockdown to be eased? When there are no infections at all? When there have been no deaths for six months? When a vaccine is found? When a cure is found?

How would you like to see the next few months pan out? How many lives do you think the Tories (and I am no supporter of them by any stretch) are "gambling" with? Three dead in Wales yesterday - tragic for them and their families absolutely no doubt.

Does that justify the continued lockdown which is currently crippling our economy, depriving our children of their education and causing untold social and mental anguish to many millions of people?

It's wrong to make this political in my opinion. Drakeford and Boris equally is inept as each other in their own way. If anything it's Drakeford and Krankie in Scotland who seem to be making things political by simply taking the opposite line to whatever is happening in England just to flex their political muscles and prove their "independence"

FFs boris makes masks mandatory on public transport simple rule that some will ignore but most will abide to it! No questions of policing it....WG mr skates response not viable or sensible ! Also who will police it blah blah blah.... it's not about policing it its about lessing the risk of close contact that will happen...... all he can do is rubbish the idea with negativity just like his boss

Wales to continue 'cautious' lifting of lockdown measures

Wales will continue with its cautious approach to easing the lockdown and will not be pressured into following England's speedier approach, the First Minister has said.

Mark Drakeford said that "however loud the demands", the Welsh Government would not "throw it all away" by easing the restrictions too quickly and risking a second peak of coronavirus.

In Wales people are restricted to journeys of five miles for leisure and non-essential shops remain closed. But in England, there is no travel limit and shops are reopening from Monday. Any changes to the lockdown in Wales are likely to be announced in a week's time when a further three-week review takes place.

Mr Drakeford told the daily Welsh Government briefing that the R number - the average number of people infected by each person who gets the virus - was now down from 0.8 to 0.7. Public Health Wales said a further 10 people had died after testing positive for Covid-19, taking the total number of deaths in Wales to 1,435, while the total cases increased by 77 to 14,658.

The First Minister said that because of the "sober and cautious way" in which the restrictions were being lifted and the efforts of the public in sticking to the rules, incidents of coronavirus were declining.

"We can choose a path in which we retain our freedoms gradually, carefully and safely, using the headroom we have made together, but never taking steps which would knowingly undermine everything we have achieved.

"Or we can throw it all away, lift the restrictions in a rush and run the real risk of this deadly virus being on the rise again in Wales."

So it’s pretty unanimous then, according to virtually everyone on this board the man is a buffoon

Drakeford out

But virtually everyone on here appears out of step with the latest opinions. Apparently the buffoon Drakeford is on the up, passing Bojo who's dropping like a brick. Most in Wales approve of the cautious approach by the Welsh government, led by buffoon Drakeford. Apparently the Welsh government led by buffoon Drakeford wins in the trust department too with Boris and his bedraggled crew being found out as a bunch of world beating liars. But as most on here seem to be Boris fans and Drakeford haters feel free to carry on the delusion....while in the real world....

Most people asked are to scared to go outside door and don't want to go to work or school in this nice weather, ask the holiday centres and the like you probably get different answer because there wont be much left by time he decides to do anything? Ask yourself this Wales is 3/4 wks behind rest uk for opening up anything! when he does decide its already been done elsewhere without any ill effects so why can scots England N.irish do it and drakeford can't? Why leave it weeks and later he does same thing boris did using same type experts used by boris?

English playing Russian roulette. Wales has a much lower rate of excess deaths despite having an older, poorer and sicker population than England. Tories have no right to gamble with people's lives. Wales pretty much doing it right...vast majority of Welsh citizens behind him.

In my admittedly limited social circle I do not know of any Welsh citizens who are behind him.

So when do you think it would be right for the lockdown to be eased? When there are no infections at all? When there have been no deaths for six months? When a vaccine is found? When a cure is found?

How would you like to see the next few months pan out? How many lives do you think the Tories (and I am no supporter of them by any stretch) are "gambling" with? Three dead in Wales yesterday - tragic for them and their families absolutely no doubt.

Does that justify the continued lockdown which is currently crippling our economy, depriving our children of their education and causing untold social and mental anguish to many millions of people?

It's wrong to make this political in my opinion. Drakeford and Boris equally is inept as each other in their own way. If anything it's Drakeford and Krankie in Scotland who seem to be making things political by simply taking the opposite line to whatever is happening in England just to flex their political muscles and prove their "independence"

Just want everyone to be safe. The "r" in Wales is 0.7 which is lower than the other UK nations. This shows that Drakeford and co. are doing things the right way. If that doesn't suit you and your limited social circle that is of little consequence to me and the majority of Welsh citizens...apparently

So it’s pretty unanimous then, according to virtually everyone on this board the man is a buffoon

Drakeford out

But virtually everyone on here appears out of step with the latest opinions. Apparently the buffoon Drakeford is on the up, passing Bojo who's dropping like a brick. Most in Wales approve of the cautious approach by the Welsh government, led by buffoon Drakeford. Apparently the Welsh government led by buffoon Drakeford wins in the trust department too with Boris and his bedraggled crew being found out as a bunch of world beating liars. But as most on here seem to be Boris fans and Drakeford haters feel free to carry on the delusion....while in the real world....

Most people asked are to scared to go outside door and don't want to go to work or school in this nice weather, ask the holiday centres and the like you probably get different answer because there wont be much left by time he decides to do anything? Ask yourself this Wales is 3/4 wks behind rest uk for opening up anything! when he does decide its already been done elsewhere without any ill effects so why can scots England N.irish do it and drakeford can't? Why leave it weeks and later he does same thing boris did using same type experts used by boris?

English playing Russian roulette. Wales has a much lower rate of excess deaths despite having an older, poorer and sicker population than England. Tories have no right to gamble with people's lives. Wales pretty much doing it right...vast majority of Welsh citizens behind him.

In my admittedly limited social circle I do not know of any Welsh citizens who are behind him.

So when do you think it would be right for the lockdown to be eased? When there are no infections at all? When there have been no deaths for six months? When a vaccine is found? When a cure is found?

How would you like to see the next few months pan out? How many lives do you think the Tories (and I am no supporter of them by any stretch) are "gambling" with? Three dead in Wales yesterday - tragic for them and their families absolutely no doubt.

Does that justify the continued lockdown which is currently crippling our economy, depriving our children of their education and causing untold social and mental anguish to many millions of people?

It's wrong to make this political in my opinion. Drakeford and Boris equally is inept as each other in their own way. If anything it's Drakeford and Krankie in Scotland who seem to be making things political by simply taking the opposite line to whatever is happening in England just to flex their political muscles and prove their "independence"

Just want everyone to be safe. The "r" in Wales is 0.7 which is lower than the other UK nations. This shows that Drakeford and co. are doing things the right way. If that doesn't suit you and your limited social circle that is of little consequence to me and the majority of Welsh citizens...apparently

That majority is changing recent poll says people are changing mind over restrictions! R rate 0.7 as been basically same for fair while now and levels in all of uk going down with exception of 2 areas hence the relaxation of rules....how low do you want it before open the shops ect.. theres caution and caution but when you listened to what he said earlier today he doesn't care what the business leaders say he doesn't care about jobs or tourism he is only interested in seeing himself as the greatest leader in welsh history !

Greatest Welsh leader has to go to Carwyn Jones

He stayed true.

Except when he bought a £300 paper ring binder.

Fact.

So it’s pretty unanimous then, according to virtually everyone on this board the man is a buffoon

Drakeford out

But virtually everyone on here appears out of step with the latest opinions. Apparently the buffoon Drakeford is on the up, passing Bojo who's dropping like a brick. Most in Wales approve of the cautious approach by the Welsh government, led by buffoon Drakeford. Apparently the Welsh government led by buffoon Drakeford wins in the trust department too with Boris and his bedraggled crew being found out as a bunch of world beating liars. But as most on here seem to be Boris fans and Drakeford haters feel free to carry on the delusion....while in the real world....

Most people asked are to scared to go outside door and don't want to go to work or school in this nice weather, ask the holiday centres and the like you probably get different answer because there wont be much left by time he decides to do anything? Ask yourself this Wales is 3/4 wks behind rest uk for opening up anything! when he does decide its already been done elsewhere without any ill effects so why can scots England N.irish do it and drakeford can't? Why leave it weeks and later he does same thing boris did using same type experts used by boris?

English playing Russian roulette. Wales has a much lower rate of excess deaths despite having an older, poorer and sicker population than England. Tories have no right to gamble with people's lives. Wales pretty much doing it right...vast majority of Welsh citizens behind him.

In my admittedly limited social circle I do not know of any Welsh citizens who are behind him.

So when do you think it would be right for the lockdown to be eased? When there are no infections at all? When there have been no deaths for six months? When a vaccine is found? When a cure is found?

How would you like to see the next few months pan out? How many lives do you think the Tories (and I am no supporter of them by any stretch) are "gambling" with? Three dead in Wales yesterday - tragic for them and their families absolutely no doubt.

Does that justify the continued lockdown which is currently crippling our economy, depriving our children of their education and causing untold social and mental anguish to many millions of people?

It's wrong to make this political in my opinion. Drakeford and Boris equally is inept as each other in their own way. If anything it's Drakeford and Krankie in Scotland who seem to be making things political by simply taking the opposite line to whatever is happening in England just to flex their political muscles and prove their "independence"

Just want everyone to be safe. The "r" in Wales is 0.7 which is lower than the other UK nations. This shows that Drakeford and co. are doing things the right way. If that doesn't suit you and your limited social circle that is of little consequence to me and the majority of Welsh citizens...apparently

Of course you speak for the "majority of Welsh citizens" don't you?

Spoken to the majority of them have you?

32 people in Welsh hospitals with coronavirus, infections dropping daily, deaths in single figures most days.

How safe do you want everyone to be? Perhaps you should stay huddled up with Mr Drakeford and the rest of the "we must keep everybody safe and nobody must ever die of anything ever again" brigade.

Please tell me - when exactly would you feel it's safe to poke your nose outside your door again?

Apparently there's a second wave coming so let's all just stay indoors forever shall we? That'll save loads of lives.

So it’s pretty unanimous then, according to virtually everyone on this board the man is a buffoon

Drakeford out

But virtually everyone on here appears out of step with the latest opinions. Apparently the buffoon Drakeford is on the up, passing Bojo who's dropping like a brick. Most in Wales approve of the cautious approach by the Welsh government, led by buffoon Drakeford. Apparently the Welsh government led by buffoon Drakeford wins in the trust department too with Boris and his bedraggled crew being found out as a bunch of world beating liars. But as most on here seem to be Boris fans and Drakeford haters feel free to carry on the delusion....while in the real world....

Most people asked are to scared to go outside door and don't want to go to work or school in this nice weather, ask the holiday centres and the like you probably get different answer because there wont be much left by time he decides to do anything? Ask yourself this Wales is 3/4 wks behind rest uk for opening up anything! when he does decide its already been done elsewhere without any ill effects so why can scots England N.irish do it and drakeford can't? Why leave it weeks and later he does same thing boris did using same type experts used by boris?

English playing Russian roulette. Wales has a much lower rate of excess deaths despite having an older, poorer and sicker population than England. Tories have no right to gamble with people's lives. Wales pretty much doing it right...vast majority of Welsh citizens behind him.

You mean rest of uk is playing roulette as scots NI also lifted rules that drakeford has not...... the R rate as been same 0.7 now for weeks so what is he waiting for Christmas? Because if hes waiting for zero we are in trouble ! You tell me where is the spike in corvid from all the people going to beaches ect 4 weeks ago the level of infection and deaths are going down week by week in rest UK, so guess their roulette is winning? but all drakeford is doing is playing roulette with welsh economy and hes losing big time.

So it’s pretty unanimous then, according to virtually everyone on this board the man is a buffoon

Drakeford out

But virtually everyone on here appears out of step with the latest opinions. Apparently the buffoon Drakeford is on the up, passing Bojo who's dropping like a brick. Most in Wales approve of the cautious approach by the Welsh government, led by buffoon Drakeford. Apparently the Welsh government led by buffoon Drakeford wins in the trust department too with Boris and his bedraggled crew being found out as a bunch of world beating liars. But as most on here seem to be Boris fans and Drakeford haters feel free to carry on the delusion....while in the real world....

Most people asked are to scared to go outside door and don't want to go to work or school in this nice weather, ask the holiday centres and the like you probably get different answer because there wont be much left by time he decides to do anything? Ask yourself this Wales is 3/4 wks behind rest uk for opening up anything! when he does decide its already been done elsewhere without any ill effects so why can scots England N.irish do it and drakeford can't? Why leave it weeks and later he does same thing boris did using same type experts used by boris?

English playing Russian roulette. Wales has a much lower rate of excess deaths despite having an older, poorer and sicker population than England. Tories have no right to gamble with people's lives. Wales pretty much doing it right...vast majority of Welsh citizens behind him.

In my admittedly limited social circle I do not know of any Welsh citizens who are behind him.

So when do you think it would be right for the lockdown to be eased? When there are no infections at all? When there have been no deaths for six months? When a vaccine is found? When a cure is found?

How would you like to see the next few months pan out? How many lives do you think the Tories (and I am no supporter of them by any stretch) are "gambling" with? Three dead in Wales yesterday - tragic for them and their families absolutely no doubt.

Does that justify the continued lockdown which is currently crippling our economy, depriving our children of their education and causing untold social and mental anguish to many millions of people?

It's wrong to make this political in my opinion. Drakeford and Boris equally is inept as each other in their own way. If anything it's Drakeford and Krankie in Scotland who seem to be making things political by simply taking the opposite line to whatever is happening in England just to flex their political muscles and prove their "independence"

Just want everyone to be safe. The "r" in Wales is 0.7 which is lower than the other UK nations. This shows that Drakeford and co. are doing things the right way. If that doesn't suit you and your limited social circle that is of little consequence to me and the majority of Welsh citizens...apparently

You realise that covid is only mainly present in care homes and hospitals now right? The r in the community is much lower, they should give you this data so people know where the virus is active but they don’t, as they want you to remain scared. There comes a point where you have to draw a line and balance it out, if the government weren’t paying the wages of so many people in Wales right now they’d all be kicking off saying open up the economy.
There are an awful lot of people whose livelihoods are in the line in certain sectors in Wales right now, october will be too late to save them.

[i][/watching the news this, evening. There's an Anglesey chicken factory closed 9 tested positive. 120 in isolation.
This virus is not going away.. Drakeford playing it slowly . .
Only problem with that is the Welsh economy needs opening up now. God knows, what the answer is.. Do we sacrifice a few along the, way and hope it's not us who the grim reaper calls next

I have mixed feeling over Drakeford.

He has made some really ridiculous decisions.

For instance the 5 mile rule is just madness, it shouldn't be about where or how far you are going but what you are going to do when you get there ! If you are going to a specific place, observing social distancing what difference does it make as to how long you have spent getting there in terms of infection/transmission rate ?

Why stop people deciding where they want to spend lockdown ? Right at the start he told people to return to their main homes and move out of any second homes. Why ? Surely it doesn't matter where they stay as long as they observe the guidelines. No logic.

He also risks Wales falling behind economically if he is too cautious in comparison to our neighbours. If England open up their tourism for July and August and we don't then a lot of those people might take a while to return and some of our rural economies will collapse without them.

Also, as a key worker I can spend all day every day since lockdown in an enclosed office environment with 50 odd people from different households (observing social distancing) yet I can only see my daughters (who all live separately) in my back garden one at a time and even that only since last week

The credit I will give Drakeford is that in terms of deaths, infection rates and hospital bed capacity he's done relatively well. Doubling the hospital bed capacity was a huge achievement and well ahead of the rest of the UK, even if we haven't needed it up to now.

I do worry though that in order for us to "catch up" economically with the rest of the UK he will have to accelerate easing of the lockdown too quickly, and that brings it's own risks, or we will fall behind. That cautious approach up to now might have stored up even more headaches for the recovery phase if he's not careful.

My feelings are mixed too. I can’t work out whether he’s stupid or incompetent or a bit of both.

All ,his two biggest mistakes are the economy and tourism, utter madness not to open non essential shops with social distancing also campsites etc ,they will be moaning in a few months that our economy is fucked

We've got a Labour government, they don't worry about economies they will ask the magic money tree for more, but it's the people that will suffer when it tells us to feck off we've had our money tough!

So it’s pretty unanimous then, according to virtually everyone on this board the man is a buffoon

Drakeford out

Yep a Tool

So it’s pretty unanimous then, according to virtually everyone on this board the man is a buffoon

Drakeford out

But virtually everyone on here appears out of step with the latest opinions. Apparently the buffoon Drakeford is on the up, passing Bojo who's dropping like a brick. Most in Wales approve of the cautious approach by the Welsh government, led by buffoon Drakeford. Apparently the Welsh government led by buffoon Drakeford wins in the trust department too with Boris and his bedraggled crew being found out as a bunch of world beating liars. But as most on here seem to be Boris fans and Drakeford haters feel free to carry on the delusion....while in the real world....

Most people asked are to scared to go outside door and don't want to go to work or school in this nice weather, ask the holiday centres and the like you probably get different answer because there wont be much left by time he decides to do anything? Ask yourself this Wales is 3/4 wks behind rest uk for opening up anything! when he does decide its already been done elsewhere without any ill effects so why can scots England N.irish do it and drakeford can't? Why leave it weeks and later he does same thing boris did using same type experts used by boris?

The furlough isn't coming out of the Welsh budget it comes from Westminster that is the problem, what he has underestimated is the unemployment these further delays will cause!

Wales recommends three-layer face coverings

People in Wales are being asked to wear three-layer face coverings in situations where social distancing is not possible - including on public transport.

The recommendation was announced by Health Minister Vaughan Gething at a news conference on Tuesday.

It follows a similar statement by the World Health Organization last week.

The UK government has announced that from 15 June people must wear face coverings while travelling on public transport in England. From the same date, hospital visitors and outpatients in England will also have to wear face coverings and staff must use surgical masks.

I wonder if the Welsh Government are going to providing the face masks they're expecting us to wear?

Oh sorry - I forgot. They want us to make our own out of an old t-shirt or similar.

Now. where did I put that old pair of y-fronts the wife was going to throw out?

Drakeford will probably try and make one out of a plastic bag

So it’s pretty unanimous then, according to virtually everyone on this board the man is a buffoon

Drakeford out

But virtually everyone on here appears out of step with the latest opinions. Apparently the buffoon Drakeford is on the up, passing Bojo who's dropping like a brick. Most in Wales approve of the cautious approach by the Welsh government, led by buffoon Drakeford. Apparently the Welsh government led by buffoon Drakeford wins in the trust department too with Boris and his bedraggled crew being found out as a bunch of world beating liars. But as most on here seem to be Boris fans and Drakeford haters feel free to carry on the delusion....while in the real world....

Most people asked are to scared to go outside door and don't want to go to work or school in this nice weather, ask the holiday centres and the like you probably get different answer because there wont be much left by time he decides to do anything? Ask yourself this Wales is 3/4 wks behind rest uk for opening up anything! when he does decide its already been done elsewhere without any ill effects so why can scots England N.irish do it and drakeford can't? Why leave it weeks and later he does same thing boris did using same type experts used by boris?

English playing Russian roulette. Wales has a much lower rate of excess deaths despite having an older, poorer and sicker population than England. Tories have no right to gamble with people's lives. Wales pretty much doing it right...vast majority of Welsh citizens behind him.

You mean rest of uk is playing roulette as scots NI also lifted rules that drakeford has not...... the R rate as been same 0.7 now for weeks so what is he waiting for Christmas? Because if hes waiting for zero we are in trouble ! You tell me where is the spike in corvid from all the people going to beaches ect 4 weeks ago the level of infection and deaths are going down week by week in rest UK, so guess their roulette is winning? but all drakeford is doing is playing roulette with welsh economy and hes losing big time.

Another factor is the longer you leave it the greater the number of visitors to Tenby and West Wales beaches, as they will have to cope with a greater pent up demand as very few people are going to fly, and people will be desperate to get away.

So it’s pretty unanimous then, according to virtually everyone on this board the man is a buffoon

Drakeford out

But virtually everyone on here appears out of step with the latest opinions. Apparently the buffoon Drakeford is on the up, passing Bojo who's dropping like a brick. Most in Wales approve of the cautious approach by the Welsh government, led by buffoon Drakeford. Apparently the Welsh government led by buffoon Drakeford wins in the trust department too with Boris and his bedraggled crew being found out as a bunch of world beating liars. But as most on here seem to be Boris fans and Drakeford haters feel free to carry on the delusion....while in the real world....

Most people asked are to scared to go outside door and don't want to go to work or school in this nice weather, ask the holiday centres and the like you probably get different answer because there wont be much left by time he decides to do anything? Ask yourself this Wales is 3/4 wks behind rest uk for opening up anything! when he does decide its already been done elsewhere without any ill effects so why can scots England N.irish do it and drakeford can't? Why leave it weeks and later he does same thing boris did using same type experts used by boris?

English playing Russian roulette. Wales has a much lower rate of excess deaths despite having an older, poorer and sicker population than England. Tories have no right to gamble with people's lives. Wales pretty much doing it right...vast majority of Welsh citizens behind him.

You mean rest of uk is playing roulette as scots NI also lifted rules that drakeford has not...... the R rate as been same 0.7 now for weeks so what is he waiting for Christmas? Because if hes waiting for zero we are in trouble ! You tell me where is the spike in corvid from all the people going to beaches ect 4 weeks ago the level of infection and deaths are going down week by week in rest UK, so guess their roulette is winning? but all drakeford is doing is playing roulette with welsh economy and hes losing big time.

Another factor is the longer you leave it the greater the number of visitors to Tenby and West Wales beaches, as they will have to cope with a greater pent up demand as very few people are going to fly, and people will be desperate to get away.

Wont be able to move and social distancing will be a farce in the narrow streets and shops close together!

So it’s pretty unanimous then, according to virtually everyone on this board the man is a buffoon

Drakeford out

But virtually everyone on here appears out of step with the latest opinions. Apparently the buffoon Drakeford is on the up, passing Bojo who's dropping like a brick. Most in Wales approve of the cautious approach by the Welsh government, led by buffoon Drakeford. Apparently the Welsh government led by buffoon Drakeford wins in the trust department too with Boris and his bedraggled crew being found out as a bunch of world beating liars. But as most on here seem to be Boris fans and Drakeford haters feel free to carry on the delusion....while in the real world....

Most people asked are to scared to go outside door and don't want to go to work or school in this nice weather, ask the holiday centres and the like you probably get different answer because there wont be much left by time he decides to do anything? Ask yourself this Wales is 3/4 wks behind rest uk for opening up anything! when he does decide its already been done elsewhere without any ill effects so why can scots England N.irish do it and drakeford can't? Why leave it weeks and later he does same thing boris did using same type experts used by boris?

English playing Russian roulette. Wales has a much lower rate of excess deaths despite having an older, poorer and sicker population than England. Tories have no right to gamble with people's lives. Wales pretty much doing it right...vast majority of Welsh citizens behind him.

and I quote from the state of the nation report issued October 2019
http://www.olderpeoplewales.com/Librari ... .sflb.ashx
"The report also shows, however, the stark inequalities that exist within the
older population in Wales, and the areas where things are getting worse
for older people. Poverty, having fallen, is now on the rise; healthy life
expectancy between the least and most deprived areas in Wales varies by as
much as 18 years. Significant numbers of older people are not able to access
the local services they need; do not know their rights; and are not able to
age well. We may have thought that the improvements in older people’s
lives secured in the recent past would endure, but this cannot be taken for
granted."

I just wonder why Wales has become the dumping ground for the poor , homeless, highest ageing population compared to the rest of the UK , it couldn't possibly have anything to do with WAGs policy's ?

So it’s pretty unanimous then, according to virtually everyone on this board the man is a buffoon

Drakeford out

But virtually everyone on here appears out of step with the latest opinions. Apparently the buffoon Drakeford is on the up, passing Bojo who's dropping like a brick. Most in Wales approve of the cautious approach by the Welsh government, led by buffoon Drakeford. Apparently the Welsh government led by buffoon Drakeford wins in the trust department too with Boris and his bedraggled crew being found out as a bunch of world beating liars. But as most on here seem to be Boris fans and Drakeford haters feel free to carry on the delusion....while in the real world....

Most people asked are to scared to go outside door and don't want to go to work or school in this nice weather, ask the holiday centres and the like you probably get different answer because there wont be much left by time he decides to do anything? Ask yourself this Wales is 3/4 wks behind rest uk for opening up anything! when he does decide its already been done elsewhere without any ill effects so why can scots England N.irish do it and drakeford can't? Why leave it weeks and later he does same thing boris did using same type experts used by boris?

English playing Russian roulette. Wales has a much lower rate of excess deaths despite having an older, poorer and sicker population than England. Tories have no right to gamble with people's lives. Wales pretty much doing it right...vast majority of Welsh citizens behind him.

In my admittedly limited social circle I do not know of any Welsh citizens who are behind him.

So when do you think it would be right for the lockdown to be eased? When there are no infections at all? When there have been no deaths for six months? When a vaccine is found? When a cure is found?

How would you like to see the next few months pan out? How many lives do you think the Tories (and I am no supporter of them by any stretch) are "gambling" with? Three dead in Wales yesterday - tragic for them and their families absolutely no doubt.

Does that justify the continued lockdown which is currently crippling our economy, depriving our children of their education and causing untold social and mental anguish to many millions of people?

It's wrong to make this political in my opinion. Drakeford and Boris equally is inept as each other in their own way. If anything it's Drakeford and Krankie in Scotland who seem to be making things political by simply taking the opposite line to whatever is happening in England just to flex their political muscles and prove their "independence"

Just want everyone to be safe. The "r" in Wales is 0.7 which is lower than the other UK nations. This shows that Drakeford and co. are doing things the right way. If that doesn't suit you and your limited social circle that is of little consequence to me and the majority of Welsh citizens...apparently

Take away those on furlough who will soon be made unemployed anyway, and you are firmly in the minority. I don’t know anyone bar a few stone heads who don’t want to open up everything again......

So it’s pretty unanimous then, according to virtually everyone on this board the man is a buffoon

Drakeford out

But virtually everyone on here appears out of step with the latest opinions. Apparently the buffoon Drakeford is on the up, passing Bojo who's dropping like a brick. Most in Wales approve of the cautious approach by the Welsh government, led by buffoon Drakeford. Apparently the Welsh government led by buffoon Drakeford wins in the trust department too with Boris and his bedraggled crew being found out as a bunch of world beating liars. But as most on here seem to be Boris fans and Drakeford haters feel free to carry on the delusion....while in the real world....

Most people asked are to scared to go outside door and don't want to go to work or school in this nice weather, ask the holiday centres and the like you probably get different answer because there wont be much left by time he decides to do anything? Ask yourself this Wales is 3/4 wks behind rest uk for opening up anything! when he does decide its already been done elsewhere without any ill effects so why can scots England N.irish do it and drakeford can't? Why leave it weeks and later he does same thing boris did using same type experts used by boris?

English playing Russian roulette. Wales has a much lower rate of excess deaths despite having an older, poorer and sicker population than England. Tories have no right to gamble with people's lives. Wales pretty much doing it right...vast majority of Welsh citizens behind him.

You mean rest of uk is playing roulette as scots NI also lifted rules that drakeford has not...... the R rate as been same 0.7 now for weeks so what is he waiting for Christmas? Because if hes waiting for zero we are in trouble ! You tell me where is the spike in corvid from all the people going to beaches ect 4 weeks ago the level of infection and deaths are going down week by week in rest UK, so guess their roulette is winning? but all drakeford is doing is playing roulette with welsh economy and hes losing big time.

Another factor is the longer you leave it the greater the number of visitors to Tenby and West Wales beaches, as they will have to cope with a greater pent up demand as very few people are going to fly, and people will be desperate to get away.

Wont be able to move and social distancing will be a farce in the narrow streets and shops close together!

By not giving us a timeline of what he’s planning, it will no doubt result in chaos in Pembs as people just flock there hoping to find somewhere to stay rather than planning it in plenty of time.

Roll On Friday

So it’s pretty unanimous then, according to virtually everyone on this board the man is a buffoon

Drakeford out

But virtually everyone on here appears out of step with the latest opinions. Apparently the buffoon Drakeford is on the up, passing Bojo who's dropping like a brick. Most in Wales approve of the cautious approach by the Welsh government, led by buffoon Drakeford. Apparently the Welsh government led by buffoon Drakeford wins in the trust department too with Boris and his bedraggled crew being found out as a bunch of world beating liars. But as most on here seem to be Boris fans and Drakeford haters feel free to carry on the delusion....while in the real world....

Most people asked are to scared to go outside door and don't want to go to work or school in this nice weather, ask the holiday centres and the like you probably get different answer because there wont be much left by time he decides to do anything? Ask yourself this Wales is 3/4 wks behind rest uk for opening up anything! when he does decide its already been done elsewhere without any ill effects so why can scots England N.irish do it and drakeford can't? Why leave it weeks and later he does same thing boris did using same type experts used by boris?

English playing Russian roulette. Wales has a much lower rate of excess deaths despite having an older, poorer and sicker population than England. Tories have no right to gamble with people's lives. Wales pretty much doing it right...vast majority of Welsh citizens behind him.

You mean rest of uk is playing roulette as scots NI also lifted rules that drakeford has not...... the R rate as been same 0.7 now for weeks so what is he waiting for Christmas? Because if hes waiting for zero we are in trouble ! You tell me where is the spike in corvid from all the people going to beaches ect 4 weeks ago the level of infection and deaths are going down week by week in rest UK, so guess their roulette is winning? but all drakeford is doing is playing roulette with welsh economy and hes losing big time.

Another factor is the longer you leave it the greater the number of visitors to Tenby and West Wales beaches, as they will have to cope with a greater pent up demand as very few people are going to fly, and people will be desperate to get away.

Wont be able to move and social distancing will be a farce in the narrow streets and shops close together!

By not giving us a timeline of what he’s planning, it will no doubt result in chaos in Pembs as people just flock there hoping to find somewhere to stay rather than planning it in plenty of time.

Trouble is hotels and bb may not open until Aug? that is not a long season until usually oct school holidays! think I will stay at home and watch the fun from house..

Roll On Friday

2 food factories in North Wales have closed..
Staff tested positive 100s in isolation
This has not gone away

Roll On Friday

2 food factories in North Wales have closed..
Staff tested positive 100s in isolation
This has not gone away

You suspect that precautions were not fully met inside factories? But your right ve awhile before go away and things no doubt be up and down? But guess it will be a golden bullet for drakeford and his quick draw decisions..

Wales' coronavirus travel restrictions could be lifted from 6 July so people can "travel as far as they like for all purposes," First Minister Mark Drakeford has said.

Travel into and around Wales will be possible from that date, as long as coronavirus is still under control.

But rules that require people to stay in their local area, within five miles as a guide, will stay for now.

It comes as the first minister made several major changes to lockdown laws.

From Monday, visits beyond people's local area on compassionate grounds, such as to family, care homes or young offender institutions, will be allowed.

On the same day:

Retailers can open, with social distancing measures in place
Private prayer can take place in places of worship
Restrictions on outdoor sports courts will be lifted for non-contact sports
Non-professional elite athletes can resume training
House viewings in vacant properties and home moves will also be allowed, restarting the housing market.

But rules stating you can only meet one other household outdoors remain in place.

The Welsh Government has also signalled when the country's tourism sector can reopen - with trips to outdoor tourist attractions from 6 July - and bookings for self-contained accommodation can start to be made from 13 July.

Schools in Wales are also due to reopen on 29 June.

Despite the changes, clothes retailer Primark said it would not reopen on Monday.

Meanwhile the Welsh Conservatives called for the five-mile advice to be withdrawn "now".