Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:52 pm
Tue Jun 23, 2020 8:04 pm
Tue Jun 23, 2020 8:11 pm
Nuclearblue wrote:I was so disappointed with our players taking the knee and those doing the Black power pump that was particularly stomach churning.
No these are millionaires most of them that have made money from the club the fans and sponsors. They have nothing in common now with those living in poverty and the ghettos. They have privileges we could only dream of.
Security for there kids and Grandkids. Now the slavery thing yes we have had a tainted past but the whole of humanity has had a tainted past no matter what colour they are.
They are there using their mobiles and technology that these tech firms use slavery in Africa and South America. Where do they get the materials for the batteries that run them ? Not Tesco that’s for sure.
They are mined using child slaves that will have vastly shortened lives but these BLM only are interested in the slave trade hundreds of years ago.
In Africa now the slave trade is huge but they are slaved by other Black tribes or criminals. Where is the fight against them ? Or that fight isn’t the in thing because they are not white oppressors.
You have other Black sportsmen like Hamilton who wears his Hugo Boss where that company made the uniforms for the Nazis. His company of which makes him him tens of millions used to make car parts from slave Labour. Does his morals say he dumps his gravy train ? No
Then you have Anthony Joshua who told a rally that they should only buy from black businesses despite most of his training camp being white, his promoters are white and the vast majority of his fan base is white. And where was his morals when fighting in Saudi Arabia ? Millions of pounds Make morals disappear.
Now our pampered stars that put aside there morals for the pound sign I would say if you think you are repressed then look up a sportsman called Jack Johnson he was a remarkable sportsman but he suffered horrific racist abuse. Most of you youngsters would of never heard of him so do your research on him.
One of BLM main financial backers is George Soros a Nazi collaborator who turned in fellow Jews and pillaged their property as a reward and he even admits to this. Where is there outrage.
Now one thing everyone needs to realise this whole episode has been orchestrated to have everyone fighting and now shit is getting real and these footballers need to realise they are putting petrol on the bonfire.
As Cardiff fans they are very tolerant we have worshipped black players like Robert Earnshaw, Nathan Blake, Danny Gabbidon, the Bennett Brothers to now Sol Bamba and who can ever forget the legend I saw Eddie score despite being shit gave us one of the most memorable goals at Ninian Park.
Black lives matter will breed white lives matter and there the hate and divide begins. What the establishment don’t want to here from blacks and whites is All Lives Matter. Why can’t we all agree on this ?
Tue Jun 23, 2020 8:56 pm
Tue Jun 23, 2020 8:57 pm
Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:51 pm
Norris ninian wrote:There's no need to turn on our players. I'm pretty sure that alot of them would prefer not to be dragged into any of this.
Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:22 pm
Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:24 pm
Nuclearblue wrote:Norris ninian wrote:There's no need to turn on our players. I'm pretty sure that alot of them would prefer not to be dragged into any of this.
Look they were the ones doing the knee and the black power fist pump. But we are told it’s the players choice but in all honesty I don’t believe they are given a choice. Any player that does not comply would be labels a racist. But a lot are doing because they want to. But politics is not allowed in football. What they do away from the ground is there business but doing it in the ground. That’s shocking.
And how many would do it if the fans were there ? I don’t believe many because the shit would hit the fan.
Personally no politics should be took to the ground if I agree with them or not.
Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:31 pm
petesmeat wrote:All lives can't matter until black lives do. It isn't difficult. If black people do nothing, nothing will change. When they do something, silently without hurting anyone, you complain. When they riot, you complain. Of course all lives matter but at the moment, black lives are less important and not just in the US, and that isn't OK.
Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:35 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:petesmeat wrote:All lives can't matter until black lives do. It isn't difficult. If black people do nothing, nothing will change. When they do something, silently without hurting anyone, you complain. When they riot, you complain. Of course all lives matter but at the moment, black lives are less important and not just in the US, and that isn't OK.
You are making it out as if Black lives are 2nd class citizens.
A Black man has just as much of a chance to improve himself as a White man does in this country. You don't need to look far to see that.
Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:36 pm
petesmeat wrote:All lives can't matter until black lives do. It isn't difficult. If black people do nothing, nothing will change. When they do something, silently without hurting anyone, you complain. When they riot, you complain. Of course all lives matter but at the moment, black lives are less important and not just in the US, and that isn't OK.
Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:37 pm
Citysince72 wrote:petesmeat wrote:All lives can't matter until black lives do. It isn't difficult. If black people do nothing, nothing will change. When they do something, silently without hurting anyone, you complain. When they riot, you complain. Of course all lives matter but at the moment, black lives are less important and not just in the US, and that isn't OK.
If you live in South Central possibly yes
But in the real world
YOU are talking utter shxt which I really do hope is a pxss take
This isn't Mississippi 1920 you dumb fool
Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:41 pm
petesmeat wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:petesmeat wrote:All lives can't matter until black lives do. It isn't difficult. If black people do nothing, nothing will change. When they do something, silently without hurting anyone, you complain. When they riot, you complain. Of course all lives matter but at the moment, black lives are less important and not just in the US, and that isn't OK.
You are making it out as if Black lives are 2nd class citizens.
A Black man has just as much of a chance to improve himself as a White man does in this country. You don't need to look far to see that.
I am a white man, I have never been racially abused or passed over for a job because of the colour of my skin. Black people have. All of my black friends have been racially abused in this country. I know that many black men and women are passed over for jobs, that is why there is a disproportionate number of black people in senior positions all over the country. Most people are decent however there is a sizeable minority that are not.
Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:44 pm
Citysince72 wrote:petesmeat wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:petesmeat wrote:All lives can't matter until black lives do. It isn't difficult. If black people do nothing, nothing will change. When they do something, silently without hurting anyone, you complain. When they riot, you complain. Of course all lives matter but at the moment, black lives are less important and not just in the US, and that isn't OK.
You are making it out as if Black lives are 2nd class citizens.
A Black man has just as much of a chance to improve himself as a White man does in this country. You don't need to look far to see that.
I am a white man, I have never been racially abused or passed over for a job because of the colour of my skin. Black people have. All of my black friends have been racially abused in this country. I know that many black men and women are passed over for jobs, that is why there is a disproportionate number of black people in senior positions all over the country. Most people are decent however there is a sizeable minority that are not.
Strange as I have many black friends and most have got on well but
Others haven't got the jobs they want, not because there black just didnt have the skills or experience and admit it
Don't use "because I'm black victim mentality nonsense"
Just like my white friends, some get the jobs they want others dont for fxcks sake
YOU are living in a different decade to us
And a reason were having these issues
Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:49 pm
Nuclearblue wrote:I was so disappointed with our players taking the knee and those doing the Black power pump that was particularly stomach churning.
Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:54 pm
petesmeat wrote:Citysince72 wrote:petesmeat wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:petesmeat wrote:All lives can't matter until black lives do. It isn't difficult. If black people do nothing, nothing will change. When they do something, silently without hurting anyone, you complain. When they riot, you complain. Of course all lives matter but at the moment, black lives are less important and not just in the US, and that isn't OK.
You are making it out as if Black lives are 2nd class citizens.
A Black man has just as much of a chance to improve himself as a White man does in this country. You don't need to look far to see that.
I am a white man, I have never been racially abused or passed over for a job because of the colour of my skin. Black people have. All of my black friends have been racially abused in this country. I know that many black men and women are passed over for jobs, that is why there is a disproportionate number of black people in senior positions all over the country. Most people are decent however there is a sizeable minority that are not.
Strange as I have many black friends and most have got on well but
Others haven't got the jobs they want, not because there black just didnt have the skills or experience and admit it
Don't use "because I'm black victim mentality nonsense"
Just like my white friends, some get the jobs they want others dont for fxcks sake
YOU are living in a different decade to us
And a reason were having these issues
No, I am not. You are living in a different decade. Black people and other minorities are underpaid and in positions lower than their skill set compared to white people. It is systemic and it needs to change. It is a fact and is not up for debate.
Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:57 pm
Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:00 pm
Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:02 pm
petesmeat wrote:Black people are paid less than white people, fact. f**k me. It isn't f*cking difficult, all they want is to be treated the same. Just have a read of this message board if you want to see how asian people are thought of, by the way.
Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:04 pm
Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:06 pm
Gareth Baker wrote:petesmeat wrote:Black people are paid less than white people, fact. f**k me. It isn't f*cking difficult, all they want is to be treated the same. Just have a read of this message board if you want to see how asian people are thought of, by the way.
"Black, Asian and ethnic minority employees are losing out on £3.2bn a year in wages compared to white colleagues doing the same work, according to a study that adds to pressure on the government to introduce mandatory reporting of race pay gaps."
Link https://www.theguardian.com/money/2018/dec/27/uk-black-and-ethnic-minorities-lose-32bn-a-year-in-pay-gap
Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:07 pm
Citysince72 wrote:Gareth Baker wrote:petesmeat wrote:Black people are paid less than white people, fact. f**k me. It isn't f*cking difficult, all they want is to be treated the same. Just have a read of this message board if you want to see how asian people are thought of, by the way.
"Black, Asian and ethnic minority employees are losing out on £3.2bn a year in wages compared to white colleagues doing the same work, according to a study that adds to pressure on the government to introduce mandatory reporting of race pay gaps."
Link https://www.theguardian.com/money/2018/dec/27/uk-black-and-ethnic-minorities-lose-32bn-a-year-in-pay-gap
Seriously
A guardian article
Either taking the piss or your a dick
Id say dick
Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:27 pm
Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:33 pm
rumpo kid wrote:That article is high on hyperbole, and low on evidence. I’ve worked with black/Asian guys for 30 years, and they’re paid the same rate as everybody else, different projects, different companies. Post whatever bullshit reinforces your fancy, but pay scales are absolute.
Let’s be honest, if you look to the Guardian for solace, it’s already too late.
Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:42 pm
Gareth Baker wrote:rumpo kid wrote:That article is high on hyperbole, and low on evidence. I’ve worked with black/Asian guys for 30 years, and they’re paid the same rate as everybody else, different projects, different companies. Post whatever bullshit reinforces your fancy, but pay scales are absolute.
Let’s be honest, if you look to the Guardian for solace, it’s already too late.
The analysis is by the revolution foundation, not the Guardian. You can use that as your excuse to deny the truth and keep spinning your bigoted narrative though, if you want?
Wed Jun 24, 2020 12:21 am
Wed Jun 24, 2020 12:28 am
Gareth Baker wrote:petesmeat wrote:Black people are paid less than white people, fact. f**k me. It isn't f*cking difficult, all they want is to be treated the same. Just have a read of this message board if you want to see how asian people are thought of, by the way.
"Black, Asian and ethnic minority employees are losing out on £3.2bn a year in wages compared to white colleagues doing the same work, according to a study that adds to pressure on the government to introduce mandatory reporting of race pay gaps."
Link https://www.theguardian.com/money/2018/dec/27/uk-black-and-ethnic-minorities-lose-32bn-a-year-in-pay-gap
Wed Jun 24, 2020 12:43 am
Bakedalasker wrote:Gareth Baker wrote:rumpo kid wrote:That article is high on hyperbole, and low on evidence. I’ve worked with black/Asian guys for 30 years, and they’re paid the same rate as everybody else, different projects, different companies. Post whatever bullshit reinforces your fancy, but pay scales are absolute.
Let’s be honest, if you look to the Guardian for solace, it’s already too late.
The analysis is by the revolution foundation, not the Guardian. You can use that as your excuse to deny the truth and keep spinning your bigoted narrative though, if you want?
Two sides to the story hey?
https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/13/white-po ... -12392566/
Wed Jun 24, 2020 12:44 am
petesmeat wrote:All lives can't matter until black lives do. It isn't difficult. If black people do nothing, nothing will change. When they do something, silently without hurting anyone, you complain. When they riot, you complain. Of course all lives matter but at the moment, black lives are less important and not just in the US, and that isn't OK.
Wed Jun 24, 2020 1:03 am
skidemin wrote:shame on BLM... because both you and they are pretending to care about black lives when you do not.