Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:06 am
Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:49 am
Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:36 am
Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:47 am
Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:30 pm
Citysince72 wrote:This white privilege nonsense baffles me
I grew up in a council estate, abusive father, mother that struggled on the breadline with 3 of us
1 pair of school shoes and clothes per term, other peoples hand me downs
Warming by the oven as the electric run out (50p metres then)
Runny porridge made with water, basic cheap food
Council pop not coke & squash etc
Had to do 3 paper rounds to follow Cardiff
And most of my white friends lived exactly the same.
And the boy who had the best house, trendiest clothes in my estate, his parents who give a dam about him was black, no one thought anything of it as colour didn't mean a thing to us. We are all just human after all.
And they just like the poorer people got on just fine
White privilige certainly wasn't around in South Wales when I was growing up in the 70s & 80s
Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:10 pm
Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:57 pm
Borders Blue wrote:I am a white, working class bloke who grew up in poverty in the South Wales valleys - no one is going to tell me that I have white privilege. I have thought for a long time now that the distinction we have accepted between left and right is there to divide us - as is the whole Woke culture. This poem made me cry because it expresses everything I have been feeling about politics for bloody ages.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4hxf4Yxfx0
Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:17 pm
skidemin wrote:Borders Blue wrote:I am a white, working class bloke who grew up in poverty in the South Wales valleys - no one is going to tell me that I have white privilege. I have thought for a long time now that the distinction we have accepted between left and right is there to divide us - as is the whole Woke culture. This poem made me cry because it expresses everything I have been feeling about politics for bloody ages.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4hxf4Yxfx0
white privilege really grinds my gears.. the people saying it really have no inclination of how ordinary people who didn't particularly see them selves as poor have lived and really not that long ago.... damp in bedrooms, single glazed often broken wooden sash windows, no family car no landline , no colour tv, no fridge no central heating... ice on the inside of windows in the winter.. they come on here telling people who have lived through 10 times worse how deprived some of our community are as if we were all born into todays world / conditions... B E A U T S
Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:56 pm
Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:29 pm
Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:04 pm
Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:08 pm
Citysince72 wrote:This white privilege nonsense baffles me
I grew up in a council estate, abusive father, mother that struggled on the breadline with 3 of us
1 pair of school shoes and clothes per term, other peoples hand me downs
Warming by the oven as the electric run out (50p metres then)
Runny porridge made with water, basic cheap food
Council pop not coke & squash etc
Had to do 3 paper rounds to follow Cardiff
And most of my white friends lived exactly the same.
And the boy who had the best house, trendiest clothes in my estate, his parents who give a dam about him was black, no one thought anything of it as colour didn't mean a thing to us. We are all just human after all.
And they just like the poorer people got on just fine
White privilige certainly wasn't around in South Wales when I was growing up in the 70s & 80s
Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:14 pm
Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:17 pm
Foghorn65 wrote:Luxury...
My Dad would beat me round the head and neck with a broken bottle...
Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:08 pm
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:Citysince72 wrote:This white privilege nonsense baffles me
I grew up in a council estate, abusive father, mother that struggled on the breadline with 3 of us
1 pair of school shoes and clothes per term, other peoples hand me downs
Warming by the oven as the electric run out (50p metres then)
Runny porridge made with water, basic cheap food
Council pop not coke & squash etc
Had to do 3 paper rounds to follow Cardiff
And most of my white friends lived exactly the same.
And the boy who had the best house, trendiest clothes in my estate, his parents who give a dam about him was black, no one thought anything of it as colour didn't mean a thing to us. We are all just human after all.
And they just like the poorer people got on just fine
White privilige certainly wasn't around in South Wales when I was growing up in the 70s & 80s
Jeez you were lucky ....
We lived for three months in a paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six in the morning, clean out the paper bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down t’mill, fourteen hours a day, week in week out, for sixpence a week, and when we got home, our Dad would thrash us to sleep with his belt.
Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:57 am
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:Citysince72 wrote:This white privilege nonsense baffles me
I grew up in a council estate, abusive father, mother that struggled on the breadline with 3 of us
1 pair of school shoes and clothes per term, other peoples hand me downs
Warming by the oven as the electric run out (50p metres then)
Runny porridge made with water, basic cheap food
Council pop not coke & squash etc
Had to do 3 paper rounds to follow Cardiff
And most of my white friends lived exactly the same.
And the boy who had the best house, trendiest clothes in my estate, his parents who give a dam about him was black, no one thought anything of it as colour didn't mean a thing to us. We are all just human after all.
And they just like the poorer people got on just fine
White privilige certainly wasn't around in South Wales when I was growing up in the 70s & 80s
Jeez you were lucky ....
We lived for three months in a paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six in the morning, clean out the paper bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down t’mill, fourteen hours a day, week in week out, for sixpence a week, and when we got home, our Dad would thrash us to sleep with his belt.
Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:12 am
Citysince72 wrote:OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:Citysince72 wrote:This white privilege nonsense baffles me
I grew up in a council estate, abusive father, mother that struggled on the breadline with 3 of us
1 pair of school shoes and clothes per term, other peoples hand me downs
Warming by the oven as the electric run out (50p metres then)
Runny porridge made with water, basic cheap food
Council pop not coke & squash etc
Had to do 3 paper rounds to follow Cardiff
And most of my white friends lived exactly the same.
And the boy who had the best house, trendiest clothes in my estate, his parents who give a dam about him was black, no one thought anything of it as colour didn't mean a thing to us. We are all just human after all.
And they just like the poorer people got on just fine
White privilige certainly wasn't around in South Wales when I was growing up in the 70s & 80s
Jeez you were lucky ....
We lived for three months in a paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six in the morning, clean out the paper bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down t’mill, fourteen hours a day, week in week out, for sixpence a week, and when we got home, our Dad would thrash us to sleep with his belt.
Comedy is an art, that
You clearly dont have.
Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:18 am
skidemin wrote:Citysince72 wrote:OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:Citysince72 wrote:This white privilege nonsense baffles me
I grew up in a council estate, abusive father, mother that struggled on the breadline with 3 of us
1 pair of school shoes and clothes per term, other peoples hand me downs
Warming by the oven as the electric run out (50p metres then)
Runny porridge made with water, basic cheap food
Council pop not coke & squash etc
Had to do 3 paper rounds to follow Cardiff
And most of my white friends lived exactly the same.
And the boy who had the best house, trendiest clothes in my estate, his parents who give a dam about him was black, no one thought anything of it as colour didn't mean a thing to us. We are all just human after all.
And they just like the poorer people got on just fine
White privilige certainly wasn't around in South Wales when I was growing up in the 70s & 80s
Jeez you were lucky ....
We lived for three months in a paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six in the morning, clean out the paper bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down t’mill, fourteen hours a day, week in week out, for sixpence a week, and when we got home, our Dad would thrash us to sleep with his belt.
Comedy is an art, that
You clearly dont have.
mate..i never saw myself as poor because most everyone I knew was the same... and I wouldn't go back and change much either.. and that's the point.. the have nots now have a hell of a lot more than we had.. and we had more than our parents ,who in my case grew up during the war and for years had rationing.. didn't seem to have an adverse effect on us or them... we accepted ...
Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:56 am
Citysince72 wrote:OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:Citysince72 wrote:This white privilege nonsense baffles me
I grew up in a council estate, abusive father, mother that struggled on the breadline with 3 of us
1 pair of school shoes and clothes per term, other peoples hand me downs
Warming by the oven as the electric run out (50p metres then)
Runny porridge made with water, basic cheap food
Council pop not coke & squash etc
Had to do 3 paper rounds to follow Cardiff
And most of my white friends lived exactly the same.
And the boy who had the best house, trendiest clothes in my estate, his parents who give a dam about him was black, no one thought anything of it as colour didn't mean a thing to us. We are all just human after all.
And they just like the poorer people got on just fine
White privilige certainly wasn't around in South Wales when I was growing up in the 70s & 80s
Jeez you were lucky ....
We lived for three months in a paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six in the morning, clean out the paper bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down t’mill, fourteen hours a day, week in week out, for sixpence a week, and when we got home, our Dad would thrash us to sleep with his belt.
Comedy is an art, that
You clearly dont have.
Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:10 pm
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:Citysince72 wrote:OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:Citysince72 wrote:This white privilege nonsense baffles me
I grew up in a council estate, abusive father, mother that struggled on the breadline with 3 of us
1 pair of school shoes and clothes per term, other peoples hand me downs
Warming by the oven as the electric run out (50p metres then)
Runny porridge made with water, basic cheap food
Council pop not coke & squash etc
Had to do 3 paper rounds to follow Cardiff
And most of my white friends lived exactly the same.
And the boy who had the best house, trendiest clothes in my estate, his parents who give a dam about him was black, no one thought anything of it as colour didn't mean a thing to us. We are all just human after all.
And they just like the poorer people got on just fine
White privilige certainly wasn't around in South Wales when I was growing up in the 70s & 80s
Jeez you were lucky ....
We lived for three months in a paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six in the morning, clean out the paper bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down t’mill, fourteen hours a day, week in week out, for sixpence a week, and when we got home, our Dad would thrash us to sleep with his belt.
Comedy is an art, that
You clearly dont have.
Shut up ya dick!
That’s a famous Monty Python sketch and you thought I wrote it?!
Try getting a sense of humour instead of wallowing in the past.
Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:59 pm
Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:09 pm
Citysince72 wrote:OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:Citysince72 wrote:OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:Citysince72 wrote:This white privilege nonsense baffles me
I grew up in a council estate, abusive father, mother that struggled on the breadline with 3 of us
1 pair of school shoes and clothes per term, other peoples hand me downs
Warming by the oven as the electric run out (50p metres then)
Runny porridge made with water, basic cheap food
Council pop not coke & squash etc
Had to do 3 paper rounds to follow Cardiff
And most of my white friends lived exactly the same.
And the boy who had the best house, trendiest clothes in my estate, his parents who give a dam about him was black, no one thought anything of it as colour didn't mean a thing to us. We are all just human after all.
And they just like the poorer people got on just fine
White privilige certainly wasn't around in South Wales when I was growing up in the 70s & 80s
Jeez you were lucky ....
We lived for three months in a paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six in the morning, clean out the paper bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down t’mill, fourteen hours a day, week in week out, for sixpence a week, and when we got home, our Dad would thrash us to sleep with his belt.
Comedy is an art, that
You clearly dont have.
Shut up ya dick!
That’s a famous Monty Python sketch and you thought I wrote it?!
Try getting a sense of humour instead of wallowing in the past.
Wallowing, it was 30 odd years ago DICK
WHO is wallowing Dick
It was a dig at white privilege DICK
past is gone DICK
And humour, now I could have come back with many little funny replies.
As I'm a very humorous chap, but couldn't be arsed
I know it is, I've seen the sketch many times
Bit dated now though isn't it DICK
easy to name call isn't it DICK
Although name calling is a tad childish DICK
Wouldn't you agree
Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:12 pm
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:Citysince72 wrote:OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:Citysince72 wrote:This white privilege nonsense baffles me
I grew up in a council estate, abusive father, mother that struggled on the breadline with 3 of us
1 pair of school shoes and clothes per term, other peoples hand me downs
Warming by the oven as the electric run out (50p metres then)
Runny porridge made with water, basic cheap food
Council pop not coke & squash etc
Had to do 3 paper rounds to follow Cardiff
And most of my white friends lived exactly the same.
And the boy who had the best house, trendiest clothes in my estate, his parents who give a dam about him was black, no one thought anything of it as colour didn't mean a thing to us. We are all just human after all.
And they just like the poorer people got on just fine
White privilige certainly wasn't around in South Wales when I was growing up in the 70s & 80s
Jeez you were lucky ....
We lived for three months in a paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six in the morning, clean out the paper bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down t’mill, fourteen hours a day, week in week out, for sixpence a week, and when we got home, our Dad would thrash us to sleep with his belt.
Comedy is an art, that
You clearly dont have.
Shut up ya dick!
That’s a famous Monty Python sketch and you thought I wrote it?!
Try getting a sense of humour instead of wallowing in the past.
Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:21 pm
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:Citysince72 wrote:OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:Citysince72 wrote:OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:Citysince72 wrote:This white privilege nonsense baffles me
I grew up in a council estate, abusive father, mother that struggled on the breadline with 3 of us
1 pair of school shoes and clothes per term, other peoples hand me downs
Warming by the oven as the electric run out (50p metres then)
Runny porridge made with water, basic cheap food
Council pop not coke & squash etc
Had to do 3 paper rounds to follow Cardiff
And most of my white friends lived exactly the same.
And the boy who had the best house, trendiest clothes in my estate, his parents who give a dam about him was black, no one thought anything of it as colour didn't mean a thing to us. We are all just human after all.
And they just like the poorer people got on just fine
White privilige certainly wasn't around in South Wales when I was growing up in the 70s & 80s
Jeez you were lucky ....
We lived for three months in a paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six in the morning, clean out the paper bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down t’mill, fourteen hours a day, week in week out, for sixpence a week, and when we got home, our Dad would thrash us to sleep with his belt.
Comedy is an art, that
You clearly dont have.
Shut up ya dick!
That’s a famous Monty Python sketch and you thought I wrote it?!
Try getting a sense of humour instead of wallowing in the past.
Wallowing, it was 30 odd years ago DICK
WHO is wallowing Dick
It was a dig at white privilege DICK
past is gone DICK
And humour, now I could have come back with many little funny replies.
As I'm a very humorous chap, but couldn't be arsed
I know it is, I've seen the sketch many times
Bit dated now though isn't it DICK
easy to name call isn't it DICK
Although name calling is a tad childish DICK
Wouldn't you agree
Comedy gold mate, you obviously thought I wrote it from your reply!
Try getting a bit of humour like the foghorn poster, he got it right away.
One pair of shoes, hand me downs, cry me a f*cking river.
Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:25 pm
Borders Blue wrote:I remember a joke told by Owen Money, I think - many years ago. This family was so poor that they couldn't afford an 'eiderdown' for their two children but had a coat on the bed instead. The mother told the kids that this coat was their eiderdown and that's what they should call it. She was a little ashamed that they couldn't afford proper bedding. Anyway, one day the kids were playing in the bedroom and the coat was damaged. Meanwhile the mother had people visiting downstairs - when one of the children ran down and shouted Mummy, Mummy, the sleeve's fallen off the eiderdown!!' Yes, I know; it's the way I tell 'em - otherwise they could be funny (or maybe not). Someone said that being poor wasn't so bad - and I agree, when everyone else is in the same boat - but you still can't tell us that we had white privilege. Anyway, what inspired me most about the poem was that it kicked against this left-right barrier that divides the working class. I haven't accepted the distinction for a long time and I wish it wasn't there.
Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:41 pm
Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:47 pm
Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:59 pm
Foghorn65 wrote:Borders Blue wrote:I remember a joke told by Owen Money, I think - many years ago. This family was so poor that they couldn't afford an 'eiderdown' for their two children but had a coat on the bed instead. The mother told the kids that this coat was their eiderdown and that's what they should call it. She was a little ashamed that they couldn't afford proper bedding. Anyway, one day the kids were playing in the bedroom and the coat was damaged. Meanwhile the mother had people visiting downstairs - when one of the children ran down and shouted Mummy, Mummy, the sleeve's fallen off the eiderdown!!' Yes, I know; it's the way I tell 'em - otherwise they could be funny (or maybe not). Someone said that being poor wasn't so bad - and I agree, when everyone else is in the same boat - but you still can't tell us that we had white privilege. Anyway, what inspired me most about the poem was that it kicked against this left-right barrier that divides the working class. I haven't accepted the distinction for a long time and I wish it wasn't there.
It was Billy Connolly mate.
Classic.
Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:11 pm
ThomasC wrote:I was poorer than that boy in Kes. He could afford to feed his falcon whereas i used to take my goldfish for a drive around our living room which was also our kitchen. Beat that!
Rhondda boys needn't try, i believe u can lol
Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:41 pm
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:ThomasC wrote:I was poorer than that boy in Kes. He could afford to feed his falcon whereas i used to take my goldfish for a drive around our living room which was also our kitchen. Beat that!
Rhondda boys needn't try, i believe u can lol
Some drama queens on here aye
Grangetown boy myself mate. Had f**k all when I was young but I kept my sense of humour for sure.