Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:17 am
Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:22 am
Nuclearblue wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Once again the the posters who tried to call people racist for not backing a racist group BLM UK , have done their usual disappearing tricks.
Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:30 am
Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:35 am
skidemin wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Once again the the posters who tried to call people racist for not backing a racist group BLM UK , have done their usual disappearing tricks.
indeed.
Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:43 am
Nuclearblue wrote:skidemin wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Once again the the posters who tried to call people racist for not backing a racist group BLM UK , have done their usual disappearing tricks.
indeed.
Where has my comment gone ? Can’t even remember what I said now
Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:46 am
Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:48 am
Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:52 am
Nuclearblue wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Once again the the posters who tried to call people racist for not backing a racist group BLM UK , have done their usual disappearing tricks.
Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:55 am
Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:I never liked the rioting and especially at a time with Covid however could understand as many peoples long term suffering at the hands of racists would boil over and no change comes without conflict. It still made me fearful about the spread of the virus as we’ve made so many sacrifices over the last few months.I’m personally not into rioting and violence - peaceful protests - fine.
I’m in full support of calling people out on racism and it’s a real shame about BLM being in the hands of the wrong people And more sinister motivations because it could have potentially caused a positive change but now I fear the change will be negative.
For me personally I’d be more suspicious of People who Shout out ‘white lives matter’ in reply to someone trying to draw attention to racism who says black lives matter (black lives matter not a a political statement but in support of cracking down on racism). BLM as a political movement is a different thing to someone trying to put an end to racism. I personally feel I understand this because being close to the LGBT community - it’s similar to when you say - ‘pride’ and people reply with a ridiculous response - why can’t we have a straight pride? This is the thing - people aren’t Historically and presently persecuted for being straight so why would you need a straight pride? I always think - think yourself lucky you don’t need one. Same thing but on a different scale for black people - why would you need to state white lives Matter (obviously they do but that’s not the point) when it is uNfortunatly black people who have experienced many types of discrimination just because of their colour. I really hope things can be moved forward in a positive way and we can continue to have the awareness that racism is still a problem.
Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:55 am
Citysince72 wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Once again the the posters who tried to call people racist for not backing a racist group BLM UK , have done their usual disappearing tricks.
No surprise there, the left don't admit fault.
My mate just apologised for saying I'm racist for being anti BLM
Still leaves a bad taste, he's known me for years
And should know I've never and will never be racist.
Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:58 am
Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:02 pm
skidemin wrote:Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:I never liked the rioting and especially at a time with Covid however could understand as many peoples long term suffering at the hands of racists would boil over and no change comes without conflict. It still made me fearful about the spread of the virus as we’ve made so many sacrifices over the last few months.I’m personally not into rioting and violence - peaceful protests - fine.
I’m in full support of calling people out on racism and it’s a real shame about BLM being in the hands of the wrong people And more sinister motivations because it could have potentially caused a positive change but now I fear the change will be negative.
For me personally I’d be more suspicious of People who Shout out ‘white lives matter’ in reply to someone trying to draw attention to racism who says black lives matter (black lives matter not a a political statement but in support of cracking down on racism). BLM as a political movement is a different thing to someone trying to put an end to racism. I personally feel I understand this because being close to the LGBT community - it’s similar to when you say - ‘pride’ and people reply with a ridiculous response - why can’t we have a straight pride? This is the thing - people aren’t Historically and presently persecuted for being straight so why would you need a straight pride? I always think - think yourself lucky you don’t need one. Same thing but on a different scale for black people - why would you need to state white lives Matter (obviously they do but that’s not the point) when it is uNfortunatly black people who have experienced many types of discrimination just because of their colour. I really hope things can be moved forward in a positive way and we can continue to have the awareness that racism is still a problem.
didn't see much of white lives matter mate... it was an extreme response after 2/3 solid weeks of having mis reporting and BLM being portrayed as something the majority knew they were not.. as for this straight pride you keep going on about...just because you've heard it a few times it really does not mean its something many think... taking isolated incidents and blowing them into more does racism or pride any good what so ever.. a straight pride ..really
Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:13 pm
Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:18 pm
Foghorn65 wrote:Typical knee jerk reaction to a ridiculous regime by the media.
You've got thousands of gullible people kneeling, wearing badges and power saluting a bunch of chancers.
The sickening sight of taking the knee makes my blood boil.
Starmer, Piers Morgan and the other public profile professionals should admit they were blindly following a load of revolutionary workshy layabouts and resign!
Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:19 pm
Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:skidemin wrote:Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:I never liked the rioting and especially at a time with Covid however could understand as many peoples long term suffering at the hands of racists would boil over and no change comes without conflict. It still made me fearful about the spread of the virus as we’ve made so many sacrifices over the last few months.I’m personally not into rioting and violence - peaceful protests - fine.
I’m in full support of calling people out on racism and it’s a real shame about BLM being in the hands of the wrong people And more sinister motivations because it could have potentially caused a positive change but now I fear the change will be negative.
For me personally I’d be more suspicious of People who Shout out ‘white lives matter’ in reply to someone trying to draw attention to racism who says black lives matter (black lives matter not a a political statement but in support of cracking down on racism). BLM as a political movement is a different thing to someone trying to put an end to racism. I personally feel I understand this because being close to the LGBT community - it’s similar to when you say - ‘pride’ and people reply with a ridiculous response - why can’t we have a straight pride? This is the thing - people aren’t Historically and presently persecuted for being straight so why would you need a straight pride? I always think - think yourself lucky you don’t need one. Same thing but on a different scale for black people - why would you need to state white lives Matter (obviously they do but that’s not the point) when it is uNfortunatly black people who have experienced many types of discrimination just because of their colour. I really hope things can be moved forward in a positive way and we can continue to have the awareness that racism is still a problem.
didn't see much of white lives matter mate... it was an extreme response after 2/3 solid weeks of having mis reporting and BLM being portrayed as something the majority knew they were not.. as for this straight pride you keep going on about...just because you've heard it a few times it really does not mean its something many think... taking isolated incidents and blowing them into more does racism or pride any good what so ever.. a straight pride ..really
There was a lot mentioned about white lives matter and all lives matter. The pride thing- I was trying to use it as a example because many don’t seem to understand the difference between the statements white lives matter or all lives matter and black lives matter. It’s not that someone has suddenly thought to themselves one day - oh I know I’m going to start saying such and such matter for the sake of it, it’s to highlight there is still a problem. I mean obviously it can take years and years for thing to become equal and I guess it’s what this is about. As I said though I just hope that things can move forward in a positive way and things can be done to bring equality in many areas where there’s clearly not.
Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:22 pm
Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:30 pm
Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:31 pm
skidemin wrote:Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:skidemin wrote:Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:I never liked the rioting and especially at a time with Covid however could understand as many peoples long term suffering at the hands of racists would boil over and no change comes without conflict. It still made me fearful about the spread of the virus as we’ve made so many sacrifices over the last few months.I’m personally not into rioting and violence - peaceful protests - fine.
I’m in full support of calling people out on racism and it’s a real shame about BLM being in the hands of the wrong people And more sinister motivations because it could have potentially caused a positive change but now I fear the change will be negative.
For me personally I’d be more suspicious of People who Shout out ‘white lives matter’ in reply to someone trying to draw attention to racism who says black lives matter (black lives matter not a a political statement but in support of cracking down on racism). BLM as a political movement is a different thing to someone trying to put an end to racism. I personally feel I understand this because being close to the LGBT community - it’s similar to when you say - ‘pride’ and people reply with a ridiculous response - why can’t we have a straight pride? This is the thing - people aren’t Historically and presently persecuted for being straight so why would you need a straight pride? I always think - think yourself lucky you don’t need one. Same thing but on a different scale for black people - why would you need to state white lives Matter (obviously they do but that’s not the point) when it is uNfortunatly black people who have experienced many types of discrimination just because of their colour. I really hope things can be moved forward in a positive way and we can continue to have the awareness that racism is still a problem.
didn't see much of white lives matter mate... it was an extreme response after 2/3 solid weeks of having mis reporting and BLM being portrayed as something the majority knew they were not.. as for this straight pride you keep going on about...just because you've heard it a few times it really does not mean its something many think... taking isolated incidents and blowing them into more does racism or pride any good what so ever.. a straight pride ..really
There was a lot mentioned about white lives matter and all lives matter. The pride thing- I was trying to use it as a example because many don’t seem to understand the difference between the statements white lives matter or all lives matter and black lives matter. It’s not that someone has suddenly thought to themselves one day - oh I know I’m going to start saying such and such matter for the sake of it, it’s to highlight there is still a problem. I mean obviously it can take years and years for thing to become equal and I guess it’s what this is about. As I said though I just hope that things can move forward in a positive way and things can be done to bring equality in many areas where there’s clearly not.
All lives matter yes .lots , white lives was far less and was pushback to highlight the bias and mis information.. as for racism. I don't see it mate , this is not a racist country , you can turn anything you like into racism if you spend your time looking for and determined to find it.as you did with pride and homophobia .. and tbh this last month there have been literally thousands of things said by black people and their supporters that if reversed would be a criminal racist offence...
sorry but this do as I say not what I do just doesn't wash...
Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:31 pm
Citysince72 wrote:Foghorn65 wrote:Typical knee jerk reaction to a ridiculous regime by the media.
You've got thousands of gullible people kneeling, wearing badges and power saluting a bunch of chancers.
The sickening sight of taking the knee makes my blood boil.
Starmer, Piers Morgan and the other public profile professionals should admit they were blindly following a load of revolutionary workshy layabouts and resign!
No chance mate
There PR team will come up with some ridicolous excuse
To excuse there pathetic existence and a reason they were taken in by it all.
Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:32 pm
Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:37 pm
Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:39 pm
Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:45 pm
Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:55 pm
Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:58 pm
Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:skidemin wrote:Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:skidemin wrote:Once a blue always a blue44 wrote:I never liked the rioting and especially at a time with Covid however could understand as many peoples long term suffering at the hands of racists would boil over and no change comes without conflict. It still made me fearful about the spread of the virus as we’ve made so many sacrifices over the last few months.I’m personally not into rioting and violence - peaceful protests - fine.
I’m in full support of calling people out on racism and it’s a real shame about BLM being in the hands of the wrong people And more sinister motivations because it could have potentially caused a positive change but now I fear the change will be negative.
For me personally I’d be more suspicious of People who Shout out ‘white lives matter’ in reply to someone trying to draw attention to racism who says black lives matter (black lives matter not a a political statement but in support of cracking down on racism). BLM as a political movement is a different thing to someone trying to put an end to racism. I personally feel I understand this because being close to the LGBT community - it’s similar to when you say - ‘pride’ and people reply with a ridiculous response - why can’t we have a straight pride? This is the thing - people aren’t Historically and presently persecuted for being straight so why would you need a straight pride? I always think - think yourself lucky you don’t need one. Same thing but on a different scale for black people - why would you need to state white lives Matter (obviously they do but that’s not the point) when it is uNfortunatly black people who have experienced many types of discrimination just because of their colour. I really hope things can be moved forward in a positive way and we can continue to have the awareness that racism is still a problem.
didn't see much of white lives matter mate... it was an extreme response after 2/3 solid weeks of having mis reporting and BLM being portrayed as something the majority knew they were not.. as for this straight pride you keep going on about...just because you've heard it a few times it really does not mean its something many think... taking isolated incidents and blowing them into more does racism or pride any good what so ever.. a straight pride ..really
There was a lot mentioned about white lives matter and all lives matter. The pride thing- I was trying to use it as a example because many don’t seem to understand the difference between the statements white lives matter or all lives matter and black lives matter. It’s not that someone has suddenly thought to themselves one day - oh I know I’m going to start saying such and such matter for the sake of it, it’s to highlight there is still a problem. I mean obviously it can take years and years for thing to become equal and I guess it’s what this is about. As I said though I just hope that things can move forward in a positive way and things can be done to bring equality in many areas where there’s clearly not.
All lives matter yes .lots , white lives was far less and was pushback to highlight the bias and mis information.. as for racism. I don't see it mate , this is not a racist country , you can turn anything you like into racism if you spend your time looking for and determined to find it.as you did with pride and homophobia .. and tbh this last month there have been literally thousands of things said by black people and their supporters that if reversed would be a criminal racist offence...
sorry but this do as I say not what I do just doesn't wash...
You may not be racist mate and many people but it does exist in this country unfortunately and that makes me worry what you just said because it shows you think it’s not a problem - ignorance to a problem will never help. Homophobia transphobia is still a massive problem worldwide and people get Abused And murdered. You may not see it but it unfortunately does exist.
Trans people are currently illegal in 72 countries. You can be stoned to death for being gay in many and people are still assaulted, verbally abused and murdered here for being gay or trans. I’m not saying you or your next door neighbour or even anyone in your street would do such a thing but unfortunately it does exist.
Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:09 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Premier League 'will keep Black Lives Matter badges on players' shirts for the rest of the season' despite Sky Sports pundits choosing to ditch the slogan
The last 48 hours has seen a number of high-profile figures distance themselves from the political activism of the UK branch of the organisation though, but it is understood the Premier League will continue supporting the cause.
The Sun report that Premier League chiefs have no plans to follow Sky Sports pundits and scrap the BLM badge from their shirts, and they will remain until at least the end of the current campaign.
Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:10 pm
ThomasC wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Premier League 'will keep Black Lives Matter badges on players' shirts for the rest of the season' despite Sky Sports pundits choosing to ditch the slogan
The last 48 hours has seen a number of high-profile figures distance themselves from the political activism of the UK branch of the organisation though, but it is understood the Premier League will continue supporting the cause.
The Sun report that Premier League chiefs have no plans to follow Sky Sports pundits and scrap the BLM badge from their shirts, and they will remain until at least the end of the current campaign.
My analysis of this for what it's worth. The media is now claiming impartiality, becoming mindful of the backlash from it's subscribers.
Premier League? The top guys running it (notice i said guys lol) are politically active. Are happy to lose some fans of the product because they are so sure the product will always sell. They are right
Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:18 pm
Forever Blue wrote:ThomasC wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Premier League 'will keep Black Lives Matter badges on players' shirts for the rest of the season' despite Sky Sports pundits choosing to ditch the slogan
The last 48 hours has seen a number of high-profile figures distance themselves from the political activism of the UK branch of the organisation though, but it is understood the Premier League will continue supporting the cause.
The Sun report that Premier League chiefs have no plans to follow Sky Sports pundits and scrap the BLM badge from their shirts, and they will remain until at least the end of the current campaign.
My analysis of this for what it's worth. The media is now claiming impartiality, becoming mindful of the backlash from it's subscribers.
Premier League? The top guys running it (notice i said guys lol) are politically active. Are happy to lose some fans of the product because they are so sure the product will always sell. They are right
Sadly your right Thomas.
Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:25 pm
Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:06 pm