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Fair play taken him a month to break cover.

Hmmmmmm

Fair play taken him a month to break cover.

Hmmmmmm

They will all come out of the woodwork now mate

Sheep will follow

Fair play taken him a month to break cover.

Hmmmmmm

in fairness he has been quite vocal on social media..
but ignored by main stream media...

Fair play taken him a month to break cover.

Hmmmmmm

in fairness he has been quite vocal on social media..
but ignored by main stream media...

If you don’t follow the narrative then it will be ignored. The News is only the news if they say it’s what they want you to know or hear. A corrupt world where they tell you what to be outraged about tell you what only what they want you to believe.

I knew David when we were both a lot younger and he had a lot of integrity then and I don't think that's changed. He has strong, well thought out views that are disliked by the liberal and left wing establishment. If he was a Liberal or Labour MP he would be one of the 'media darlings' given his 'ethnicity'. As it is he's often shunned, ridiculed or ignored by mainstream. However, he's getting better at getting his views across. Here he is vs Sadick Khan... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpcpGZ9B9j8

I hope certain comments aren't a strong desire to keep the status quo?
The Black Lives Matter movement is an idea in the hearts of people and while some political types may have adopted the name to further their cause let's not distract from the movement which is to ensure justice for all. A movement that has been adopted by millions of people across the US and the world.

I hope certain comments aren't a strong desire to keep the status quo?
The Black Lives Matter movement is an idea in the hearts of people and while some political types may have adopted the name to further their cause let's not distract from the movement which is to ensure justice for all. A movement that has been adopted by millions of people across the US and the world.

black lives matter ?

how about this one who your mates murdered...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQPHVpfBwr4

David Dorn.. respectable hard working family man..

black lives matter ?

how about this one who your mates murdered...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQPHVpfBwr4

David Dorn.. respectable hard working family man..

Why are you questioning whether black lives matter?
Are you saying they don't?
In any group of people there are good, kind, creative, generous, loving, bad, violent and murderous people, so by the laws of probability there will be the proportionate amount among BLM supporters.
But let's not fall into the trap and generalise and say they are all like that.
btw anyone involved in violent crime is not my mate.

black lives matter ?

how about this one who your mates murdered...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQPHVpfBwr4

David Dorn.. respectable hard working family man..

Why are you questioning whether black lives matter?
Are you saying they don't?
In any group of people there are good, kind, creative, generous, loving, bad, violent and murderous people, so by the laws of probability there will be the proportionate amount among BLM supporters.
But let's not fall into the trap and generalise and say they are all like that.
btw anyone involved in violent crime is not my mate.

yep in any group...including police of all colours....watch the video its f*cking didgusting...but eh oh go and protest

He needs to pull himself together(KURTEN)!!

black lives matter ?

how about this one who your mates murdered...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQPHVpfBwr4

David Dorn.. respectable hard working family man..

Why are you questioning whether black lives matter?
Are you saying they don't?
In any group of people there are good, kind, creative, generous, loving, bad, violent and murderous people, so by the laws of probability there will be the proportionate amount among BLM supporters.
But let's not fall into the trap and generalise and say they are all like that.
btw anyone involved in violent crime is not my mate.

Of coarse they matter and they are covered by All Lives matter. Black Lives matter is racist and that’s the truth

I hope certain comments aren't a strong desire to keep the status quo?
The Black Lives Matter movement is an idea in the hearts of people and while some political types may have adopted the name to further their cause let's not distract from the movement which is to ensure justice for all. A movement that has been adopted by millions of people across the US and the world.

TLDR (short version): TImeline here is the wrong way round and it is actually quite important that we acknowledge this.



For those who want the long-winded version

Long Post Warning! Sorry couldn't get this across in less words. Is an important point though so wanted to put it across quite clearly as a lot of people have made this misconception about BLM being hijacked and while it is good that BLM have been exposed (at last) for their political ideologies, the actual final outcome of this could differ massively if people only realised the true timeline of everything.

In the line in bold in alexc's quote he has fallen into the same trap as the Premier League, BBC and well almost everyone else other than a handful of people. The timeline here is wrong. On the surface it might seem like it doesn't really matter, support for BLM is in decline as people realise the political ideology behind the group. This was my initial thinking to be honest.

However, having given it deeper thought I think it is really important that this doesn't become the accepted timeline of how things ran as it actually leaves the majority of the damage caused by BLM as an open wound. The timeline has in fact been reversed and this is an important point to acknowledge as it completely changes the entire narrative and therefore the final endpoint of all this also varies massively by this simple sleight of hand.

So for anyone thinking that BLM was a grass roots movement 'hijacked' by the far left...

The way that is currently being presented:

• World witnesses George Floyd's death which was a at the hands of a white cop.
• This is the evidence to support what we have all been told since Trump's election, America is a haven of not so secret racists and its core institutions are systemically racist.
• In reaction to this and in support and solidarity for the downtrodden black community a huge multinational grass root movement rises up in the face of this widespread racism.
• The movement is an anti-racism movement and it is correctly supported by all powerful organisations from the world of politics, media, sport, film/TV/music/advertising. Basically, every influential organisation unites in support of Black Lives Matter.
• The message is a clear and simple one. It is a message of anti-racism. Those who stand against such a message are of course racists. Those who are brave enough to put the head above the parapet and question this narrative are denounced as racists/nazis etc etc.
• Unfortunately, the grass roots movement of BLM is taken over by left-wing extremists and politicised so organisations one by one start walking back their support.

The end outcome is that the majority of western nations still remain inherently racist and we must continue to fight the legions of racists lurking in every corner. While the organisation of BLM has been compromised, the core message remains. We as a society remain divided and exposed to further political manipulation en masse.

The actual timeline of events was as follows:

• 2012 - Black Lives Matter movement begins as a grass roots movement in reaction primarily to shooting of Trayvon Martin
• 2014 - BLM shifted their activism to protesting the deaths of Black people at the hands of US police.
• 2015 - In a video interview one of the two founders of BLM openly admits in an interview that BLM is a marxist organisation saying: "We actually do have an ideological frame. Myself and Alyssia [the other co-founder] in particular are trained organisers, we are trained marxists, we are super versed on ideological theories and what we are trying to do is build a movement that could be utilised by many, many black folk."
  Interview is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCghDx5 ... e=youtu.be
• In 2016 America votes in Donald Trump.
  Note: The narrative is often that Trump emboldened racists yet BLM had been pushing the USA is a racist country narrative during most of Obama's second term.
• In 2020 George Floyd's death is leapt upon by BLM as the powder keg for mass civil disruption. The world was primed due to the lockdowns and a lot of pent up frustration.
• The narrative that George Floyd's was killed because of his race was taken up quickly with little questioning.
  Note: The fact that Chauvin (the cop that killed him) knew Floyd and had 'butted heads' with him when they worked together 6 years earlier was grossly overlooked by the majority of the media, as was the fact that Chauvin's wife is BAME. Still everyone leapt to embrace the white cop kills black man because of racism story that BLM were pushing.
• BLM continue to present themselves as the grassroots movement of 2012 despite now being a slick Soros funded operation that is actually directly funding the progressive left of the democratic party in the US.
• Mass hysteria ensues as BLM raise the spectre of racism lurking in every corner.
• Seemingly all powerful, with their every detractor denounced as racist, BLM become emboldened and are more overt in their marxist rhetoric.
• This was their big mistake, as suddenly the Premier League and everyone else had to make massive steps backwards.

The truth is that BLM wasn't hijacked by political extremists. BLM are and always have been political extremists.

The 'framework' they were building as referenced in the 2015 interview was to build a platform that hyper-sensationalised the various cases they protested as being representative of everyday interactions between police and black people. To be clear I personally see each and every death they marched for as a tragic loss and those responsible for the deaths should be held accountable.

However, these individual cases remain the statistical outliers not the norm,

The overwhelming statistical evidence that counters the BLM position is vast, robust and from hugely reliable and authoritative sources.

Yet, for whatever reason (I have my own ideas here but it would take to long to go into in this post which is way too long already) BLM were successful in establishing the idea of institutionalised and systemic racism. Their 'All Cops Are B*stards' (ACAB) message took root.

They convinced the world that not only were American cops racist but that America itself was racist and that good people had to stand in defiance of this. White people needed to acknowledge their privilege and be good allies or they too were racist. Once they had achieved this they then essentially took a cookie cutter approach to the rest of the Western World and they very, very nearly pulled it all off.

If it hadn't been for some overzealous sloganeering from the likes of George McFarlane, who were just too stupid and impatient to hold themselves back, I honestly think they could have.

When we reframe everything in this corrected timeline the end point we get to is that the UK (and actually the US) are actually pretty damn tolerant countries and it turns out that there aren't evil white supremacists lurking in every corner and also that we should probably pay a bit more attention to the causes we support rather than queue up for our virtue signalling points each day and not let a bunch of neo-Marxist wankers pit us all against each other and try and start a damn race war.

When we look at the situation, with the full facts, the essential outcome is that we are able to heal much better as a society and BLM return to the fringe of politics where their extremist position belongs.

Big, Big difference between the two outcomes which is why it is important to not let this mistaken interpretation of the far left hijacking BLM just slip into being common 'knowledge'.

Sorry for the long post lads and ladies. Not smart enough to say it more succinctly.

I hope certain comments aren't a strong desire to keep the status quo?
The Black Lives Matter movement is an idea in the hearts of people and while some political types may have adopted the name to further their cause let's not distract from the movement which is to ensure justice for all. A movement that has been adopted by millions of people across the US and the world.

TLDR (short version): TImeline here is the wrong way round and it is actually quite important that we acknowledge this.



For those who want the long-winded version

Long Post Warning! Sorry couldn't get this across in less words. Is an important point though so wanted to put it across quite clearly as a lot of people have made this misconception about BLM being hijacked and while it is good that BLM have been exposed (at last) for their political ideologies, the actual final outcome of this could differ massively if people only realised the true timeline of everything.

In the line in bold in alexc's quote he has fallen into the same trap as the Premier League, BBC and well almost everyone else other than a handful of people. The timeline here is wrong. On the surface it might seem like it doesn't really matter, support for BLM is in decline as people realise the political ideology behind the group. This was my initial thinking to be honest.

However, having given it deeper thought I think it is really important that this doesn't become the accepted timeline of how things ran as it actually leaves the majority of the damage caused by BLM as an open wound. The timeline has in fact been reversed and this is an important point to acknowledge as it completely changes the entire narrative and therefore the final endpoint of all this also varies massively by this simple sleight of hand.

So for anyone thinking that BLM was a grass roots movement 'hijacked' by the far left...

The way that is currently being presented:

• World witnesses George Floyd's death which was a at the hands of a white cop.
• This is the evidence to support what we have all been told since Trump's election, America is a haven of not so secret racists and its core institutions are systemically racist.
• In reaction to this and in support and solidarity for the downtrodden black community a huge multinational grass root movement rises up in the face of this widespread racism.
• The movement is an anti-racism movement and it is correctly supported by all powerful organisations from the world of politics, media, sport, film/TV/music/advertising. Basically, every influential organisation unites in support of Black Lives Matter.
• The message is a clear and simple one. It is a message of anti-racism. Those who stand against such a message are of course racists. Those who are brave enough to put the head above the parapet and question this narrative are denounced as racists/nazis etc etc.
• Unfortunately, the grass roots movement of BLM is taken over by left-wing extremists and politicised so organisations one by one start walking back their support.

The end outcome is that the majority of western nations still remain inherently racist and we must continue to fight the legions of racists lurking in every corner. While the organisation of BLM has been compromised, the core message remains. We as a society remain divided and exposed to further political manipulation en masse.

The actual timeline of events was as follows:

• 2012 - Black Lives Matter movement begins as a grass roots movement in reaction primarily to shooting of Trayvon Martin
• 2014 - BLM shifted their activism to protesting the deaths of Black people at the hands of US police.
• 2015 - In a video interview one of the two founders of BLM openly admits in an interview that BLM is a marxist organisation saying: "We actually do have an ideological frame. Myself and Alyssia [the other co-founder] in particular are trained organisers, we are trained marxists, we are super versed on ideological theories and what we are trying to do is build a movement that could be utilised by many, many black folk."
  Interview is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCghDx5 ... e=youtu.be
• In 2016 America votes in Donald Trump.
  Note: The narrative is often that Trump emboldened racists yet BLM had been pushing the USA is a racist country narrative during most of Obama's second term.
• In 2020 George Floyd's death is leapt upon by BLM as the powder keg for mass civil disruption. The world was primed due to the lockdowns and a lot of pent up frustration.
• The narrative that George Floyd's was killed because of his race was taken up quickly with little questioning.
  Note: The fact that Chauvin (the cop that killed him) knew Floyd and had 'butted heads' with him when they worked together 6 years earlier was grossly overlooked by the majority of the media, as was the fact that Chauvin's wife is BAME. Still everyone leapt to embrace the white cop kills black man because of racism story that BLM were pushing.
• BLM continue to present themselves as the grassroots movement of 2012 despite now being a slick Soros funded operation that is actually directly funding the progressive left of the democratic party in the US.
• Mass hysteria ensues as BLM raise the spectre of racism lurking in every corner.
• Seemingly all powerful, with their every detractor denounced as racist, BLM become emboldened and are more overt in their marxist rhetoric.
• This was their big mistake, as suddenly the Premier League and everyone else had to make massive steps backwards.

The truth is that BLM wasn't hijacked by political extremists. BLM are and always have been political extremists.

The 'framework' they were building as referenced in the 2015 interview was to build a platform that hyper-sensationalised the various cases they protested as being representative of everyday interactions between police and black people. To be clear I personally see each and every death they marched for as a tragic loss and those responsible for the deaths should be held accountable.

However, these individual cases remain the statistical outliers not the norm,

The overwhelming statistical evidence that counters the BLM position is vast, robust and from hugely reliable and authoritative sources.

Yet, for whatever reason (I have my own ideas here but it would take to long to go into in this post which is way too long already) BLM were successful in establishing the idea of institutionalised and systemic racism. Their 'All Cops Are B*stards' (ACAB) message took root.

They convinced the world that not only were American cops racist but that America itself was racist and that good people had to stand in defiance of this. White people needed to acknowledge their privilege and be good allies or they too were racist. Once they had achieved this they then essentially took a cookie cutter approach to the rest of the Western World and they very, very nearly pulled it all off.

If it hadn't been for some overzealous sloganeering from the likes of George McFarlane, who were just too stupid and impatient to hold themselves back, I honestly think they could have.

When we reframe everything in this corrected timeline the end point we get to is that the UK (and actually the US) are actually pretty damn tolerant countries and it turns out that there aren't evil white supremacists lurking in every corner and also that we should probably pay a bit more attention to the causes we support rather than queue up for our virtue signalling points each day and not let a bunch of neo-Marxist wankers pit us all against each other and try and start a damn race war.

When we look at the situation, with the full facts, the essential outcome is that we are able to heal much better as a society and BLM return to the fringe of politics where their extremist position belongs.

Big, Big difference between the two outcomes which is why it is important to not let this mistaken interpretation of the far left hijacking BLM just slip into being common 'knowledge'.

Sorry for the long post lads and ladies. Not smart enough to say it more succinctly.

And there you have it. Shut down the BLM supporters in one post