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Postby Welshcake » Sun Sep 13, 2020 12:23 pm

A good article here from the Telegraph on the effects of wearing a mask. I'm sure this will be shot down as government propaganda and a dent in our human rights by the less stable on here but sod it :D

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-heal ... gniter-rhr
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Postby skidemin » Sun Sep 13, 2020 1:36 pm

to quote you... please take your information from reliable sources.. :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5:
the article refers to cruise ship examples and has the figures totally back to front.. hard to believe mate... are you deliberately looking for duff stuff to post.. but put cruise ships one side a minute and look for government figures, any government ,anywhere, and you will find your link is wrong about the percentages of people who get this and are asymptomatic.
and...do you really think scaring people with very iffy non facts is stable..?
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Re: Mask Wearing

Postby Igovernor » Sun Sep 13, 2020 1:48 pm

Does it really make a difference if it is the restaurants, bars and the onboard entertainment venues, on a ship to the same places not on a ship. People on here rambling on that masks don't work, after many years in the medical field, I can tell you that they do work and this is from experience not any site for or against masks!
And by the way there are tens of thousands out there that are asymptomatic who have not been tested but can still pass it on!
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Re: Mask Wearing

Postby skidemin » Sun Sep 13, 2020 2:16 pm

Igovernor wrote:Does it really make a difference if it is the restaurants, bars and the onboard entertainment venues, on a ship to the same places not on a ship. People on here rambling on that masks don't work, after many years in the medical field, I can tell you that they do work and this is from experience not any site for or against masks!
And by the way there are tens of thousands out there that are asymptomatic who have not been tested but can still pass it on!




yes asymptomatics can pass it on... and its millions not tens of thousands that have had this and been asymptomatic... and certainly not only 20% on those cruise ships..
as for masks expert reports say its inconclusive.. and if it was conclusive we along with all other countries would have been forced into it much much earlier and the wearing regs would be more wide spread... btw like you and every other human thats ever lived i have had a lifetime.. OF NOT WEARING ONE...
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Re: Mask Wearing

Postby thomasblue » Sun Sep 13, 2020 2:41 pm

Living in England and been wearing these in shops and other areas for weeks

It just becomes the norm and to be fair it does feel safer when people are wearing them even if it doesn't make much of a difference to protecting from the virus it certainly helps with peoples anxiety over this issue.

The worst part is when you go to a shop or other place and forget to take the mask then have to go home and get it .

They make very little difference to peoples every day life imo
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Re: Mask Wearing

Postby Welshcake » Sun Sep 13, 2020 3:09 pm

skidemin wrote:to quote you... please take your information from reliable sources.. :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5:
the article refers to cruise ship examples and has the figures totally back to front.. hard to believe mate... are you deliberately looking for duff stuff to post.. but put cruise ships one side a minute and look for government figures, any government ,anywhere, and you will find your link is wrong about the percentages of people who get this and are asymptomatic.
and...do you really think scaring people with very iffy non facts is stable..?


Critising the Telegraph and Fullfact (a fact checking charitable organisation) as not reliable sources of information is laughable. Sorry it wasn't a meme!
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Re: Mask Wearing

Postby moonboots » Sun Sep 13, 2020 3:32 pm

Welshcake wrote:
skidemin wrote:to quote you... please take your information from reliable sources.. :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5:
the article refers to cruise ship examples and has the figures totally back to front.. hard to believe mate... are you deliberately looking for duff stuff to post.. but put cruise ships one side a minute and look for government figures, any government ,anywhere, and you will find your link is wrong about the percentages of people who get this and are asymptomatic.
and...do you really think scaring people with very iffy non facts is stable..?


Critising the Telegraph and Fullfact (a fact checking charitable organisation) as not reliable sources of information is laughable. Sorry it wasn't a meme!

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Re: Mask Wearing

Postby pembroke allan » Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:03 pm

Will wearing mask everywhere indoors stop or reduce positive corvid tests probably not as unless someone breathes heavily or sneezes coughs directly in your face not going to catch it .....the problem is touching things and not taking precautions by cleaning/sanatising hands after been to shops garage in fact anywhere where people physically touch things before you.... all that's going to happen is people to scared to go out ? But 30 people can mix in a garden that almost certainly not big enough for social distancing! And there lies biggest problem and probable cause of infection.
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Re: Mask Wearing

Postby davids » Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:59 pm

Has any thought been given to the environmental impact of literally billions of these face masks being disposed of throughout the world?

Are the local authorities going to give us new toxic waste receptacles to add to the black, green, brown, blue etc bins and bags that we have at the moment?

Where are we meant to dispose of our Covid riddled masks? How many millions will end up in the oceans or landfill?

Greta Iceberg must be tearing her hair out.

Not a question to be bothered with at the moment I suppose in the rush to get everybody in the world muzzled as much as possible - also what happened to all the GDP regulations which were so forcibly brought in a short while ago?

All gone out of the window in the rush to get as many contact details as possible from individuals to keep us all "safe".
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Re: Mask Wearing

Postby ealing_ayatollah » Tue Sep 15, 2020 1:28 pm

thomasblue wrote:Living in England and been wearing these in shops and other areas for weeks

It just becomes the norm and to be fair it does feel safer when people are wearing them even if it doesn't make much of a difference to protecting from the virus it certainly helps with peoples anxiety over this issue.

The worst part is when you go to a shop or other place and forget to take the mask then have to go home and get it .

They make very little difference to peoples every day life imo


Also living in the wrong side of the river I'm in a situation where it has been around for a while now but in terms of feeling safer and getting used to it I've had the exact opposite reaction. I'm far more on edge than I used to be in shops with everyone wearing a mask bordering on getting anxious - I used to have some anxiety issues but I've overcome them a long time ago so it is not a nice feeling seeing those irrational emotions creeping back into dark corners of my mind.

I've tried to put some thought as to why it unsettles me so much. I think there are a few things about it, firstly they strip and an awful lot of emotion out of people's faces, which I find makes it harder to judge what someone may be thinking/feeling and just puts a barrier between people that wasn't there before.

Secondly, I occasionally suffer from poor hearing, it is a condition that comes and goes, but during the lockdown I had an issue with it for a few days and I couldn't understand anything that people were saying to me. I had never realised before, but I am a lot more reliant on lip-reading during these times than I ever thought and the loss of ability to communicate is terrifying. I feel so much for those with more serious hearing impediments, I really do.

But at the heart of it, I think it is just willing compliance of the majority despite any real scientific evidence to support it. As another poster said if the science was clear, we and all other countries would have far stricter regulations not just on the wearing of masks but also the types of masks that can be worn, but we don't as with all the regulations, they seem to be made up on the fly on the roll of a dice, with little thought or attention to actual data put in.

There is just an undertone of manipulation that I can't escape from in this whole sorry saga and it's the simple acceptance without questioning that I think unsettles me the most.

I don't direct that at you personally Thomas by the way or anyone in particular that feels more comfortable with a mask. It is just a very visible sign of a lot of people accepting things as they are when every which way I turn there are things about this whole saga that are not quite right, and I just find that quite unsettling.
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Re: Mask Wearing

Postby davids » Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:59 pm

ealing_ayatollah wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Living in England and been wearing these in shops and other areas for weeks

It just becomes the norm and to be fair it does feel safer when people are wearing them even if it doesn't make much of a difference to protecting from the virus it certainly helps with peoples anxiety over this issue.

The worst part is when you go to a shop or other place and forget to take the mask then have to go home and get it .

They make very little difference to peoples every day life imo


Also living in the wrong side of the river I'm in a situation where it has been around for a while now but in terms of feeling safer and getting used to it I've had the exact opposite reaction. I'm far more on edge than I used to be in shops with everyone wearing a mask bordering on getting anxious - I used to have some anxiety issues but I've overcome them a long time ago so it is not a nice feeling seeing those irrational emotions creeping back into dark corners of my mind.

I've tried to put some thought as to why it unsettles me so much. I think there are a few things about it, firstly they strip and an awful lot of emotion out of people's faces, which I find makes it harder to judge what someone may be thinking/feeling and just puts a barrier between people that wasn't there before.

Secondly, I occasionally suffer from poor hearing, it is a condition that comes and goes, but during the lockdown I had an issue with it for a few days and I couldn't understand anything that people were saying to me. I had never realised before, but I am a lot more reliant on lip-reading during these times than I ever thought and the loss of ability to communicate is terrifying. I feel so much for those with more serious hearing impediments, I really do.

But at the heart of it, I think it is just willing compliance of the majority despite any real scientific evidence to support it. As another poster said if the science was clear, we and all other countries would have far stricter regulations not just on the wearing of masks but also the types of masks that can be worn, but we don't as with all the regulations, they seem to be made up on the fly on the roll of a dice, with little thought or attention to actual data put in.

There is just an undertone of manipulation that I can't escape from in this whole sorry saga and it's the simple acceptance without questioning that I think unsettles me the most.

I don't direct that at you personally Thomas by the way or anyone in particular that feels more comfortable with a mask. It is just a very visible sign of a lot of people accepting things as they are when every which way I turn there are things about this whole saga that are not quite right, and I just find that quite unsettling.


Excellent post and pretty much sums up my own feelings and those of many others I suspect.

Strange how the WAG say that when masks were not compulsory in shops that they were "following the science" but now they have arbitrarily changed tack. Has the science changed or is it in fact a knee jerk reaction to the current obsession with new infections?
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Re: Mask Wearing

Postby skidemin » Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:21 pm

davids wrote:
ealing_ayatollah wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Living in England and been wearing these in shops and other areas for weeks

It just becomes the norm and to be fair it does feel safer when people are wearing them even if it doesn't make much of a difference to protecting from the virus it certainly helps with peoples anxiety over this issue.

The worst part is when you go to a shop or other place and forget to take the mask then have to go home and get it .

They make very little difference to peoples every day life imo


Also living in the wrong side of the river I'm in a situation where it has been around for a while now but in terms of feeling safer and getting used to it I've had the exact opposite reaction. I'm far more on edge than I used to be in shops with everyone wearing a mask bordering on getting anxious - I used to have some anxiety issues but I've overcome them a long time ago so it is not a nice feeling seeing those irrational emotions creeping back into dark corners of my mind.

I've tried to put some thought as to why it unsettles me so much. I think there are a few things about it, firstly they strip and an awful lot of emotion out of people's faces, which I find makes it harder to judge what someone may be thinking/feeling and just puts a barrier between people that wasn't there before.

Secondly, I occasionally suffer from poor hearing, it is a condition that comes and goes, but during the lockdown I had an issue with it for a few days and I couldn't understand anything that people were saying to me. I had never realised before, but I am a lot more reliant on lip-reading during these times than I ever thought and the loss of ability to communicate is terrifying. I feel so much for those with more serious hearing impediments, I really do.

But at the heart of it, I think it is just willing compliance of the majority despite any real scientific evidence to support it. As another poster said if the science was clear, we and all other countries would have far stricter regulations not just on the wearing of masks but also the types of masks that can be worn, but we don't as with all the regulations, they seem to be made up on the fly on the roll of a dice, with little thought or attention to actual data put in.

There is just an undertone of manipulation that I can't escape from in this whole sorry saga and it's the simple acceptance without questioning that I think unsettles me the most.

I don't direct that at you personally Thomas by the way or anyone in particular that feels more comfortable with a mask. It is just a very visible sign of a lot of people accepting things as they are when every which way I turn there are things about this whole saga that are not quite right, and I just find that quite unsettling.


Excellent post and pretty much sums up my own feelings and those of many others I suspect.

Strange how the WAG say that when masks were not compulsory in shops that they were "following the science" but now they have arbitrarily changed tack. Has the science changed or is it in fact a knee jerk reaction to the current obsession with new infections?



think its obvious the scientists were wrong...have caused thousands of deaths , have all been sacked and are awaiting trials... probably not..
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Re: Mask Wearing

Postby pembroke allan » Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:26 pm

davids wrote:
ealing_ayatollah wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Living in England and been wearing these in shops and other areas for weeks

It just becomes the norm and to be fair it does feel safer when people are wearing them even if it doesn't make much of a difference to protecting from the virus it certainly helps with peoples anxiety over this issue.

The worst part is when you go to a shop or other place and forget to take the mask then have to go home and get it .

They make very little difference to peoples every day life imo


Also living in the wrong side of the river I'm in a situation where it has been around for a while now but in terms of feeling safer and getting used to it I've had the exact opposite reaction. I'm far more on edge than I used to be in shops with everyone wearing a mask bordering on getting anxious - I used to have some anxiety issues but I've overcome them a long time ago so it is not a nice feeling seeing those irrational emotions creeping back into dark corners of my mind.

I've tried to put some thought as to why it unsettles me so much. I think there are a few things about it, firstly they strip and an awful lot of emotion out of people's faces, which I find makes it harder to judge what someone may be thinking/feeling and just puts a barrier between people that wasn't there before.

Secondly, I occasionally suffer from poor hearing, it is a condition that comes and goes, but during the lockdown I had an issue with it for a few days and I couldn't understand anything that people were saying to me. I had never realised before, but I am a lot more reliant on lip-reading during these times than I ever thought and the loss of ability to communicate is terrifying. I feel so much for those with more serious hearing impediments, I really do.

But at the heart of it, I think it is just willing compliance of the majority despite any real scientific evidence to support it. As another poster said if the science was clear, we and all other countries would have far stricter regulations not just on the wearing of masks but also the types of masks that can be worn, but we don't as with all the regulations, they seem to be made up on the fly on the roll of a dice, with little thought or attention to actual data put in.

There is just an undertone of manipulation that I can't escape from in this whole sorry saga and it's the simple acceptance without questioning that I think unsettles me the most.

I don't direct that at you personally Thomas by the way or anyone in particular that feels more comfortable with a mask. It is just a very visible sign of a lot of people accepting things as they are when every which way I turn there are things about this whole saga that are not quite right, and I just find that quite unsettling.


Excellent post and pretty much sums up my own feelings and those of many others I suspect.

Strange how the WAG say that when masks were not compulsory in shops that they were "following the science" but now they have arbitrarily changed tack. Has the science changed or is it in fact a knee jerk reaction to the current obsession with new infections?





Scratching around to be seen to being doing something ! Science only useful when they say it is...... after initial outbreak deaths had all but disappeared for several months without the need for masks so why are they needed now?
It's more than likely being spread by physical contact thru hands....... having said that here in pembs cases have been extremely low since initial outbreak considering the huge amount of tourists flooding in why is that? Perhaps they should be asking the scientists they use whats causing spikes because it's not the non wearing of masks thats causing it ..
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Re: Mask Wearing

Postby Bluebina » Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:31 pm

davids wrote:
ealing_ayatollah wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Living in England and been wearing these in shops and other areas for weeks

It just becomes the norm and to be fair it does feel safer when people are wearing them even if it doesn't make much of a difference to protecting from the virus it certainly helps with peoples anxiety over this issue.

The worst part is when you go to a shop or other place and forget to take the mask then have to go home and get it .

They make very little difference to peoples every day life imo


Also living in the wrong side of the river I'm in a situation where it has been around for a while now but in terms of feeling safer and getting used to it I've had the exact opposite reaction. I'm far more on edge than I used to be in shops with everyone wearing a mask bordering on getting anxious - I used to have some anxiety issues but I've overcome them a long time ago so it is not a nice feeling seeing those irrational emotions creeping back into dark corners of my mind.

I've tried to put some thought as to why it unsettles me so much. I think there are a few things about it, firstly they strip and an awful lot of emotion out of people's faces, which I find makes it harder to judge what someone may be thinking/feeling and just puts a barrier between people that wasn't there before.

Secondly, I occasionally suffer from poor hearing, it is a condition that comes and goes, but during the lockdown I had an issue with it for a few days and I couldn't understand anything that people were saying to me. I had never realised before, but I am a lot more reliant on lip-reading during these times than I ever thought and the loss of ability to communicate is terrifying. I feel so much for those with more serious hearing impediments, I really do.

But at the heart of it, I think it is just willing compliance of the majority despite any real scientific evidence to support it. As another poster said if the science was clear, we and all other countries would have far stricter regulations not just on the wearing of masks but also the types of masks that can be worn, but we don't as with all the regulations, they seem to be made up on the fly on the roll of a dice, with little thought or attention to actual data put in.

There is just an undertone of manipulation that I can't escape from in this whole sorry saga and it's the simple acceptance without questioning that I think unsettles me the most.

I don't direct that at you personally Thomas by the way or anyone in particular that feels more comfortable with a mask. It is just a very visible sign of a lot of people accepting things as they are when every which way I turn there are things about this whole saga that are not quite right, and I just find that quite unsettling.


Excellent post and pretty much sums up my own feelings and those of many others I suspect.

Strange how the WAG say that when masks were not compulsory in shops that they were "following the science" but now they have arbitrarily changed tack. Has the science changed or is it in fact a knee jerk reaction to the current obsession with new infections?



Yes the science has changed over the last few months, Dr Hilary was against them, now he says they may help a bit in close contact indoors, because if someone who has a virus and they are wearing a mask, the spread of the virus via their breath will travel less far.

It's not a game changer but it might make a difference and now the science community as a whole feel the positives outweigh the negatives, we have to wear them in shops anyway so might aswell get used to the idea, I had to wear one four hours to Kos, in the end I forgot about.
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Re: Mask Wearing

Postby pembroke allan » Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:45 pm

Bluebina wrote:
davids wrote:
ealing_ayatollah wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Living in England and been wearing these in shops and other areas for weeks

It just becomes the norm and to be fair it does feel safer when people are wearing them even if it doesn't make much of a difference to protecting from the virus it certainly helps with peoples anxiety over this issue.

The worst part is when you go to a shop or other place and forget to take the mask then have to go home and get it .

They make very little difference to peoples every day life imo


Also living in the wrong side of the river I'm in a situation where it has been around for a while now but in terms of feeling safer and getting used to it I've had the exact opposite reaction. I'm far more on edge than I used to be in shops with everyone wearing a mask bordering on getting anxious - I used to have some anxiety issues but I've overcome them a long time ago so it is not a nice feeling seeing those irrational emotions creeping back into dark corners of my mind.

I've tried to put some thought as to why it unsettles me so much. I think there are a few things about it, firstly they strip and an awful lot of emotion out of people's faces, which I find makes it harder to judge what someone may be thinking/feeling and just puts a barrier between people that wasn't there before.

Secondly, I occasionally suffer from poor hearing, it is a condition that comes and goes, but during the lockdown I had an issue with it for a few days and I couldn't understand anything that people were saying to me. I had never realised before, but I am a lot more reliant on lip-reading during these times than I ever thought and the loss of ability to communicate is terrifying. I feel so much for those with more serious hearing impediments, I really do.

But at the heart of it, I think it is just willing compliance of the majority despite any real scientific evidence to support it. As another poster said if the science was clear, we and all other countries would have far stricter regulations not just on the wearing of masks but also the types of masks that can be worn, but we don't as with all the regulations, they seem to be made up on the fly on the roll of a dice, with little thought or attention to actual data put in.

There is just an undertone of manipulation that I can't escape from in this whole sorry saga and it's the simple acceptance without questioning that I think unsettles me the most.

I don't direct that at you personally Thomas by the way or anyone in particular that feels more comfortable with a mask. It is just a very visible sign of a lot of people accepting things as they are when every which way I turn there are things about this whole saga that are not quite right, and I just find that quite unsettling.


Excellent post and pretty much sums up my own feelings and those of many others I suspect.

Strange how the WAG say that when masks were not compulsory in shops that they were "following the science" but now they have arbitrarily changed tack. Has the science changed or is it in fact a knee jerk reaction to the current obsession with new infections?



Yes the science has changed over the last few months, Dr Hilary was against them, now he says they may help a bit in close contact indoors, because if someone who has a virus and they are wearing a mask, the spread of the virus via their breath will travel less far.

It's not a game changer but it might make a difference and now the science community as a whole feel the positives outweigh the negatives, we have to wear them in shops anyway so might aswell get used to the idea, I had to wear one four hours to Kos, in the end I forgot about.



Ok if healthy can forget about it being on but there are lots people who cannot wear a mask for length of time! And as been seen people are not very friendly towards people if not wearing mask in places you should be....
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Re: Mask Wearing

Postby Bluebina » Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:51 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
davids wrote:
ealing_ayatollah wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Living in England and been wearing these in shops and other areas for weeks

It just becomes the norm and to be fair it does feel safer when people are wearing them even if it doesn't make much of a difference to protecting from the virus it certainly helps with peoples anxiety over this issue.

The worst part is when you go to a shop or other place and forget to take the mask then have to go home and get it .

They make very little difference to peoples every day life imo


Also living in the wrong side of the river I'm in a situation where it has been around for a while now but in terms of feeling safer and getting used to it I've had the exact opposite reaction. I'm far more on edge than I used to be in shops with everyone wearing a mask bordering on getting anxious - I used to have some anxiety issues but I've overcome them a long time ago so it is not a nice feeling seeing those irrational emotions creeping back into dark corners of my mind.

I've tried to put some thought as to why it unsettles me so much. I think there are a few things about it, firstly they strip and an awful lot of emotion out of people's faces, which I find makes it harder to judge what someone may be thinking/feeling and just puts a barrier between people that wasn't there before.

Secondly, I occasionally suffer from poor hearing, it is a condition that comes and goes, but during the lockdown I had an issue with it for a few days and I couldn't understand anything that people were saying to me. I had never realised before, but I am a lot more reliant on lip-reading during these times than I ever thought and the loss of ability to communicate is terrifying. I feel so much for those with more serious hearing impediments, I really do.

But at the heart of it, I think it is just willing compliance of the majority despite any real scientific evidence to support it. As another poster said if the science was clear, we and all other countries would have far stricter regulations not just on the wearing of masks but also the types of masks that can be worn, but we don't as with all the regulations, they seem to be made up on the fly on the roll of a dice, with little thought or attention to actual data put in.

There is just an undertone of manipulation that I can't escape from in this whole sorry saga and it's the simple acceptance without questioning that I think unsettles me the most.

I don't direct that at you personally Thomas by the way or anyone in particular that feels more comfortable with a mask. It is just a very visible sign of a lot of people accepting things as they are when every which way I turn there are things about this whole saga that are not quite right, and I just find that quite unsettling.


Excellent post and pretty much sums up my own feelings and those of many others I suspect.

Strange how the WAG say that when masks were not compulsory in shops that they were "following the science" but now they have arbitrarily changed tack. Has the science changed or is it in fact a knee jerk reaction to the current obsession with new infections?



Yes the science has changed over the last few months, Dr Hilary was against them, now he says they may help a bit in close contact indoors, because if someone who has a virus and they are wearing a mask, the spread of the virus via their breath will travel less far.

It's not a game changer but it might make a difference and now the science community as a whole feel the positives outweigh the negatives, we have to wear them in shops anyway so might aswell get used to the idea, I had to wear one four hours to Kos, in the end I forgot about.



Ok if healthy can forget about it being on but there are lots people who cannot wear a mask for length of time! And as been seen people are not very friendly towards people if not wearing mask in places you should be....


Society is split between young and Healthy people and Old and people in poor health, if people are that ill that they can't wear a mask they shouldn't be shopping, we need to start protecting these people while letting the others keep the country going, we can't afford another lockdown.
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Re: Mask Wearing

Postby skidemin » Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:19 pm

Bluebina wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
davids wrote:
ealing_ayatollah wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Living in England and been wearing these in shops and other areas for weeks

It just becomes the norm and to be fair it does feel safer when people are wearing them even if it doesn't make much of a difference to protecting from the virus it certainly helps with peoples anxiety over this issue.

The worst part is when you go to a shop or other place and forget to take the mask then have to go home and get it .

They make very little difference to peoples every day life imo


Also living in the wrong side of the river I'm in a situation where it has been around for a while now but in terms of feeling safer and getting used to it I've had the exact opposite reaction. I'm far more on edge than I used to be in shops with everyone wearing a mask bordering on getting anxious - I used to have some anxiety issues but I've overcome them a long time ago so it is not a nice feeling seeing those irrational emotions creeping back into dark corners of my mind.

I've tried to put some thought as to why it unsettles me so much. I think there are a few things about it, firstly they strip and an awful lot of emotion out of people's faces, which I find makes it harder to judge what someone may be thinking/feeling and just puts a barrier between people that wasn't there before.

Secondly, I occasionally suffer from poor hearing, it is a condition that comes and goes, but during the lockdown I had an issue with it for a few days and I couldn't understand anything that people were saying to me. I had never realised before, but I am a lot more reliant on lip-reading during these times than I ever thought and the loss of ability to communicate is terrifying. I feel so much for those with more serious hearing impediments, I really do.

But at the heart of it, I think it is just willing compliance of the majority despite any real scientific evidence to support it. As another poster said if the science was clear, we and all other countries would have far stricter regulations not just on the wearing of masks but also the types of masks that can be worn, but we don't as with all the regulations, they seem to be made up on the fly on the roll of a dice, with little thought or attention to actual data put in.

There is just an undertone of manipulation that I can't escape from in this whole sorry saga and it's the simple acceptance without questioning that I think unsettles me the most.

I don't direct that at you personally Thomas by the way or anyone in particular that feels more comfortable with a mask. It is just a very visible sign of a lot of people accepting things as they are when every which way I turn there are things about this whole saga that are not quite right, and I just find that quite unsettling.


Excellent post and pretty much sums up my own feelings and those of many others I suspect.

Strange how the WAG say that when masks were not compulsory in shops that they were "following the science" but now they have arbitrarily changed tack. Has the science changed or is it in fact a knee jerk reaction to the current obsession with new infections?



Yes the science has changed over the last few months, Dr Hilary was against them, now he says they may help a bit in close contact indoors, because if someone who has a virus and they are wearing a mask, the spread of the virus via their breath will travel less far.

It's not a game changer but it might make a difference and now the science community as a whole feel the positives outweigh the negatives, we have to wear them in shops anyway so might aswell get used to the idea, I had to wear one four hours to Kos, in the end I forgot about.



Ok if healthy can forget about it being on but there are lots people who cannot wear a mask for length of time! And as been seen people are not very friendly towards people if not wearing mask in places you should be....


Society is split between young and Healthy people and Old and people in poor health, if people are that ill that they can't wear a mask they shouldn't be shopping, we need to start protecting these people while letting the others keep the country going, we can't afford another lockdown.



its not people that cant wear masks that should be staying in...its anyone thats concerned about their health... this is 100% back to front than for every thing else in life.. truth be told the vast majority have their very own sliding scale of what they see as ok... people in taxis on planes in supermarkets in restaurants... but complaining about others and other things... if your a selfish coronaphobe stay at home... i would... this im scared with provisos that i can do the stuff i want to do is B/S....
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Re: Mask Wearing

Postby pembroke allan » Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:06 am

In Cardiff shopping cant wear a mask but was not stopped maybe its because I was with partner? IKEA and B&Q on my list for later today wonder how get on there.. :old:
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Re: Mask Wearing

Postby ealing_ayatollah » Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:28 pm

Bit of light relief

https://www.expressandstar.com/news/uk- ... sk-on-bus/

"Authorities have confirmed a snake is not a valid face-covering after a man was spotted with one wrapped around his head on a bus."
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Re: Mask Wearing

Postby pembroke allan » Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:43 pm

pembroke allan wrote:In Cardiff shopping cant wear a mask but was not stopped maybe its because I was with partner? IKEA and B&Q on my list for later today wonder how get on there.. :old:



Well that was a surprise only B&Q had someone on door who asked about mask said couldn't wear one said ok .... IKEA not challenged by security at door home bargains no challenge by anyone.... and more surprising was didn't see anyone else without mask.... think fact was with partner who wore mask so presume people realised i had reason for not wearing one. Wonder if going to local Tesco be as easy going as Cardiff was... :old:
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Re: Mask Wearing

Postby skidemin » Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:15 am

ealing_ayatollah wrote:Bit of light relief

https://www.expressandstar.com/news/uk- ... sk-on-bus/

"Authorities have confirmed a snake is not a valid face-covering after a man was spotted with one wrapped around his head on a bus."



yes my son showed me earlier.. mental..
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