CCFCJosh75 wrote:skidemin wrote:most people rightly associate Marx closely to Communism.. but if Nukes had used the word communism or infact any other word to describe BLMs lesser known objectives .. youd be attempting to nit pick that via google too.. but the important bit is they do have extreme objectives / agendas that are not so clear to Joe Public
the owner of BLM ?
and Cardiff City Football Club is a Football Club not a political group.. and no the fact that the founder was English does not mean we are all English.. like most people i have no idea who he voted for.. but had he also started up a political party with extreme views and you jumped on board you would likely then be called a bartleyist... while others who only followed the football club would not... you wont find that sentence in wiki as its a level of common sense i doubt anyone would think needs explaining..
Honestly, before this topic did you even know there are multiple types of Marxism? Or what the differences between each type are? I'll guess no but you'll still use it as a boogeyman term.
I'm also still yet to be shown blm actually doing these Marxist things you berate them for.
FFS...
Variants of Marxist-based communism: 1 Leninism.
2 Marxism–Leninism,
3 Stalinism,
4 Trotskyism,
5 Maoism,
6 De Leonism
7 Marxism–Leninism–Maoism,
8 Prachanda Path,
9 Hoxhaism,
10 Titoism,
11 Eurocommunism,
12 Council communism,
13 Dengism,
14 Luxermburgism
Variants of Non-Marxist communism: 1 Anarcho-communism (which I referenced in the first post as the only true example of Communism that can work but only on a small scale of sub 100 people before the complexity of societal structure means the natural emergence of a social hierarchy whereby it ceases to be communism )
2 Religious communism (which is essentially a historical reflection rather than a theory to implement so doesn't really count - I just put it in there to try and boost your numbers - I'm good like that.)
link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... ideologies - yes its Wikipedia but its actually a well written page and I don't have time/couldn't be arsed sourcing anything more academic at the minute and I was sure I had forgotten one so I googled it to double check (I had missed both Dengism and Luxemburgism as it goes.) So yes Josh well done!
There are indeed many different interpretations of Marxist theory and not
all forms of 'communism' are based on Marxist theory - just the ones that have actually been put into practice on a scale larger than 100 people. (Incidentally, these are also the ones that pretty much always end up in genocide of some form of another - but lets not let that take away from your moment of glory)
To your second point, if the founder of BLM herself explaining how her organisation is a Marxist organisation.(note she says
WE are trained Marxists not
I am a trained Marxist), then how the hell is anyone else going to?
Congratulations Josh, you are the semantic champion of the world. Your prize is to smugly look down on all of us ill-educated fools.
Everybody else wins the game of 'Not being Josh'.
Our prize is well, not being Josh.