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Postby worcester_ccfc » Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:06 pm

Embarrassing Cardiff City today in my opinion

For over 10 yrs we keep hearing our under 23’s will and is getting better and the quality is coming through, but every year we keep getting rid of most of them.

Where is strength in depth in our squad ?


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Swansea City earned the bragging rights in the first South Wales derby of the season after earning a convincing 5-1 victory over Cardiff City under-23s in the Professional Development League 2



Cardiff City’s. Under manager, Steve Morison has named an experienced starting line-up...


Cardiff City Under 23s playing Swansea City Under 23s today.

Match kicked off at 1pm.


Swansea Under 23’s 5 Cardiff City Under 23’s 1 :cry: :cry:
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Steve Morison has named an experienced starting line-up...


Day, Flint, Cunningham, Harris, plus many very experienced under 23 players.

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Postby Forever Blue » Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:35 pm

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Postby Forever Blue » Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:37 pm

33 - Goal. Dan Williams finishes from the free-kick. City behind. (1-0)



41 - Goal. Kristoffer Petersen finishes from close range to double his side’s advantage. (2-0)


44 - Goal. Garrick scores. (3-0)
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Postby paulh_85 » Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:44 pm

3-0 down at half time
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Postby skidemin » Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:46 pm

Forever Blue wrote:33 - Goal. Dan Williams finishes from the free-kick. City behind. (1-0)



he is on loan from ourserlves
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Postby Forever Blue » Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:52 pm

@SwansOfficial U23 line-up...

: Webb, Rushesa, J. Jones, Thomas, C. Evans (C), Butler, Williams, Cooper, Garrick, Bevan, Peterson.

Subs: Hamadi, T, Evans, H. Jones, Gibbings, Congreve.
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Postby Forever Blue » Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:07 pm

Cardiff change:

46 - Sam Bowen replaces Ryan Kavanagh. (3-0)
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Postby HarriRhys22 » Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:31 pm

Shows we’ve nothing in reserve compared to the Jacks! Flint and Cunningham cost us 7m ffs!

@isaakdavies77 replaces @KieronEvansx.
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Postby paulh_85 » Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:36 pm

5-1 now
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Postby Forever Blue » Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:40 pm

paulh_85 wrote:5-1 now


This my point Paul, No strength in depth, but Harris insists we have .
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Postby Forever Blue » Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:44 pm

HarriRhys22 wrote:Shows we’ve nothing in reserve compared to the Jacks! Flint and Cunningham cost us 7m ffs!

@isaakdavies77 replaces @KieronEvansx.


As a fan
Our squad is not good enough and I’ve said this before we even kicked a ball this season.

But the Committee & Harris say totally different.
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Postby stickywicket » Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:46 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:5-1 now


This my point Paul, No strength in depth, but Harris insists we have .

We need to shift at least 3 players out flint cunningham and if we can get a decent fee for Murphy him as well.
We need an overall of the midfield.
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Postby Forever Blue » Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:49 pm

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paulh_85 wrote:5-1 now


This my point Paul, No strength in depth, but Harris insists we have .

We need to shift at least 3 players out flint cunningham and if we can get a decent fee for Murphy him as well.
We need an overall of the midfield.



I totally agree and I stand by Joe Day not good enough.

But Harris insists he has a big and quality squad and is happy with it.
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Postby Forever Blue » Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:50 pm

Embarrassing Cardiff City today in my opinion

Where is strength in depth in our squad ?
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Postby fred keenor » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:05 pm

This is embarrassing with Flint and Cunningham playing.
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Postby Mr Potato » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:22 pm

There is such a lack of quality at the club. However, I believe Cunningham needs a run of games to get to full match fitness.

If Harris is happy with what we have, we are in for a long season especially if or when tomlin gets injured as we will struggle. He is our only match winner, the only player with quality that can open defences and offer service. Judging by that today, we’ve got not a lot of quality coming through either. That’s embarrassing.
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Postby Bluearmy54 » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:26 pm

Instead of getting rid of players let get rid of the recruitement staff and the board I keep saying we need 4 players in
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Postby Forever Blue » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:30 pm

Even Media Wales Reporter Glen Willians who is usually very positive
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Postby RICK+CCFC » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:32 pm

fred keenor wrote:This is embarrassing with Flint and Cunningham playing.
Not good enough Cardiff city management


As far as I’m concerned the alarm bells are well and truly ringIng. Comparisons have already been made to Paul Trollopes short and disastrous tenure, but the under 23s, youth, development set up, call it what you want, has been miss managed for a long long time, and I’ve lost count of all the different youth and academy coaches that have come and gone over the last ten years.
We’ve only just started a new season and were on the back foot already,,,, and I get the feeling of deeper rooted problems that need sorting, not fudged over as if nothing is wrong.
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Postby stickywicket » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:33 pm

Whats happened to this guy
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Postby Mr Potato » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:34 pm

Nothing to be positive about to be fair, it’s looking grim. It’s not the results that’s a worry, it’s how we’ve played in the first 2 games, and a strong u23 side got absolutely smashed. I am sure the happy clappers will sort it out shortly.
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Postby JasonFowler1991 » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:40 pm

Not many positives to discuss in these opening weeks. Lack of transfer activity, Mendez Laing debacle and the opening 2 results.
I will remain calm though, and hold my judgement to 5 games in. I am sure we need a right back, a striker and a creative player still though.
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Postby Forever Blue » Mon Sep 14, 2020 3:43 pm

RICK+CCFC wrote:
fred keenor wrote:This is embarrassing with Flint and Cunningham playing.
Not good enough Cardiff city management


As far as I’m concerned the alarm bells are well and truly ringIng. Comparisons have already been made to Paul Trollopes short and disastrous tenure, but the under 23s, youth, development set up, call it what you want, has been miss managed for a long long time, and I’ve lost count of all the different youth and academy coaches that have come and gone.
We’ve only just started a new season and were on the back foot already,,,, and I get the feeling of deeper rooted problems that need sorting, not fudged over as if nothing is wrong.



Rick,

And every year or 2yrs another clear out and keep
Blaming the coaches , but who employs these coaches ?

11yrs of disastrous results from the Under 23’s.
And every year most cleared out and they bring the next lot through same old story and yes I’ve been slated on here accused of been negative, but I was told time and time from with in our club no investment in our future.

They should in my opinion kept Craig Bellamy old school and never charged us a penny.



As to the first team Northampton away and Sheff Wed home no go in the team, passion, aggression and a weaker team than last season.

I really really want to be positive, and hold my judgement for 12 games, but I am not hearing good things.

Min £33 mill this season from parachute payments, some of it needs to be invested or we won’t be going up .


Harris to be fair proved me wrong last season big time and I want it to happen again :bluebird: :bluebird:
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Postby HarriRhys22 » Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:11 pm

Just spending money is not the answer Murphy11m,Madine6m,Cunningham 4m,Flint 4m,Pack 2m,Bacuna4m,Bogle1m,Ward 2m, that’s £34m basically wasted! We need a Director of Football and a new Recruitment team like Brentford and dare I say the Jacks!
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Postby Pulisnewport » Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:26 pm

I’ve said it a few times, get Osian Roberts into the club in charge of everything down from the under 23’s to the academy.

Stuck in a dead end job in Morocco what a total waste of talent. He’d have his pulse on all the upcoming Welsh lads as well.

Choo and Dalman sort it out.
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Postby skidemin » Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:35 pm

stickywicket wrote:Whats happened to this guy
Aaron Bolger from ireland



back in Ireland on loan....
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Postby worcester_ccfc » Mon Sep 14, 2020 4:43 pm

Embarrassing is the right wording.

So poor.

We are miles behind Swansea.
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Postby bluebird04 » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:41 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
HarriRhys22 wrote:Shows we’ve nothing in reserve compared to the Jacks! Flint and Cunningham cost us 7m ffs!

@isaakdavies77 replaces @KieronEvansx.


As a fan
Our squad is not good enough and I’ve said this before we even kicked a ball this season.

But the Committee & Harris say totally different.


Annis, during the ACE Podcast with Mehmet Dalman, it was me who asked, who is in charge of the transfer committee because its been awful....he asked me to name 1 example, so i told him a few, bobby reid, doesnt fit into a NW style of play, Flint, to similar to Morrison so it wouldn't work, Madine, his reply was, Madine helped us get promotion so the £6m was well spent, other than that he thinks the committee has done okay.

it seems we don't actually target what we need, we just try and get whats available and hope it works
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Postby moonboots » Mon Sep 14, 2020 5:54 pm

Pulisnewport wrote:I’ve said it a few times, get Osian Roberts into the club in charge of everything down from the under 23’s to the academy.

Stuck in a dead end job in Morocco what a total waste of talent. He’d have his pulse on all the upcoming Welsh lads as well.

Choo and Dalman sort it out.


Agree with you 100% mate. Not going to happen though as Harris has got one of his mates running the U23s :thumbup:
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Postby Forever Blue » Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:13 pm

bluebird04 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
HarriRhys22 wrote:Shows we’ve nothing in reserve compared to the Jacks! Flint and Cunningham cost us 7m ffs!

@isaakdavies77 replaces @KieronEvansx.


As a fan
Our squad is not good enough and I’ve said this before we even kicked a ball this season.

But the Committee & Harris say totally different.


Annis, during the ACE Podcast with Mehmet Dalman, it was me who asked, who is in charge of the transfer committee because its been awful....he asked me to name 1 example, so i told him a few, bobby reid, doesnt fit into a NW style of play, Flint, to similar to Morrison so it wouldn't work, Madine, his reply was, Madine helped us get promotion so the £6m was well spent, other than that he thinks the committee has done okay.

it seems we don't actually target what we need, we just try and get whats available and hope it works




Rhys,

The Committee has now been totally in charge fir the last 4 plus years and I stand by most of them are waste of time in finding new talent and are still making as many mistakes as they blamed previous managers on.

But at least Dalman admits publicly that they are responsible for all transfers .



The Committee are totally as well responsible for new coaches etc for the under 23’s.
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