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How do we line-up now
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:46 am
by thomasblue
A lot of players have left but most were bench warmers or kids so no first 11 players are really gone in this window whilst we've added possibly 3 quality players.
It will be Interesting to see how Harris lines them up to make us stronger on the pitch as I see no point in signing Wilson if we have to drop Tomlin for him. Harris needs to find a way of getting them both in the side as they will make the difference.
The only way i see us getting our best players on the pitch without them being out of position is with a 4231 formation
Smithies
Bennett
Morrison
Benkovic
Tutu
Ralls
Vaulks
Murphy
Tomlin
Wilson
Moore
Or will he play Wilson up front with Moore to have a big man little man front two in a 352 formation which would make us more solid in midfield but possibly lose our wingers or full backs
Smithies
Morrison
Nelson / Bamba
Benkovic
Ralls
Vaulks
Pack
Bacuna
Tomlin
Harris
Moore
Whichever way you look at the squad now , Harris has a lot more options than he had before and the squad looks very well balanced.
Re: How do we line-up now
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:52 am
by billy ronson
Think you meant Wilson not Harris up top :
Or will he play Tutu and Bennett wide in your formation as genuine wing backs with Bacuna in middle with Ralls instead of Vaulks and Pack ?
Re: How do we line-up now
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:02 am
by Bluebird For Life
I get the feeling that Wilson and Tomlin won't start together. Tomlin is probably not capable of 90 minutes and Wilson frequently gets subbed in games I have seen him play at around the 70 minute mark, so Wilson to start with Tomlin for the last 20? I can't see Benkovic coming to be a bench warmer so expect him to start too.
I was speaking with my son about where these signings will fit in our style of play, and I have to admit, I have no idea what formation we will play now - I guess we have to wait and see, but it does give us some great options and should produce a more fluid system.
Re: How do we line-up now
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:29 am
by kimble
Someone mentioned...Nelson could slot in at rt back allowing tutsu to play further forward or to cover him if injured
if so that would give us the cover at rt back we needed
it would also allow Harris to field a back 3 ..i think Hoillet will be used sparingly now
I think Harris prefers Bacuna to Vaulks and Pack seem to be back in favour and played well at Blackburn...but i think we have strength in depth now.
I see the team for Sunday as
Smithies
tutsu Morrison Nelson Bennett/Cunningham
Pack Bacuna
Wilson
Hoillet Moore Ojo
Subs
Phillips
Benkovic
Glatzel
Ralls if fit
Vaulks
Tomlin
Murphy
Re: How do we line-up now
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:32 am
by fred keenor
I definately can see a back 3 , the guy from leicester would not have been allowed to leave to warm the bench.
Re: How do we line-up now
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:10 am
by Clusterman
kimble wrote:Someone mentioned...Nelson could slot in at rt back allowing tutsu to play further forward or to cover him if injured
if so that would give us the cover at rt back we needed
it would also allow Harris to field a back 3 ..i think Hoillet will be used sparingly now
I think Harris prefers Bacuna to Vaulks and Pack seem to be back in favour and played well at Blackburn...but i think we have strength in depth now.
I see the team for Sunday as
Smithies
tutsu Morrison Nelson Bennett/Cunningham
Pack Bacuna
Wilson
Hoillet Moore Ojo
Subs
Phillips
Benkovic
Glatzel
Ralls if fit
Vaulks
Tomlin
Murphy
Tomlin is suspended Sunday
Re: How do we line-up now
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:14 am
by bluebirdoct1962
Sunday’s team?
Smithes
Tutu. Morrison. Nelson. Cunningham
Pack. Bacuna
Ojo. Wilson. Hoillett
Moore
Re: How do we line-up now
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:41 am
by boyo1927
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:Sunday’s team?
Smithes
Tutu. Morrison. Nelson. Cunningham
Pack. Bacuna
Ojo. Wilson. Hoillett
Moore
Yeah can see thos line up
Re: How do we line-up now
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:26 am
by thomasblue
boyo1927 wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:Sunday’s team?
Smithes
Tutu. Morrison. Nelson. Cunningham
Pack. Bacuna
Ojo. Wilson. Hoillett
Moore
Yeah can see thos line up
I can see that line up aswell which will mean more of the same poor football.
He now has the players to play attractive attacking football so no excuses for poor long ball shite
Re: How do we line-up now
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:32 am
by Kenbird1927
Smithies
Morrinson
Benkovic
Cunningham
Tutu
Ralls
Vaulks
Hoilett
Wilson
Murphy
Moore
Re: How do we line-up now
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 1:02 pm
by Llantwit Blue
I still can’t believe supporters think Murphy should be anywhere near the starting 11 baffles me.
Re: How do we line-up now
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:08 pm
by thomasblue
Llantwit Blue wrote:I still can’t believe supporters think Murphy should be anywhere near the starting 11 baffles me.
He may be off form but he is by far the best winger at this club .
He needs to play and find his form
Re: How do we line-up now
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:25 pm
by bluebirdoct1962
thomasblue wrote:boyo1927 wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:Sunday’s team?
Smithes
Tutu. Morrison. Nelson. Cunningham
Pack. Bacuna
Ojo. Wilson. Hoillett
Moore
Yeah can see thos line up
I can see that line up aswell which will mean more of the same poor football.
He now has the players to play attractive attacking football so no excuses for poor long ball shite
Sorry mate but the way I’m reading this you’re contradicting yourself. Maybe me tho. Are you saying it’s potentially a good attacking line up that we won’t utilise because of long ball tactics?
Re: How do we line-up now
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:31 pm
by thomasblue
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:thomasblue wrote:boyo1927 wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:Sunday’s team?
Smithes
Tutu. Morrison. Nelson. Cunningham
Pack. Bacuna
Ojo. Wilson. Hoillett
Moore
Yeah can see thos line up
I can see that line up aswell which will mean more of the same poor football.
He now has the players to play attractive attacking football so no excuses for poor long ball shite
Sorry mate but the way I’m reading this you’re contradicting yourself. Maybe me tho. Are you saying it’s potentially a good attacking line up that we won’t utilise because of long ball tactics?
No I'm saying that line up is very similar to what we had so far this season so the style and for won't change much . He has the opportunity to really shake it up with fresh players and styles but I doubt he will
Re: How do we line-up now
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:13 pm
by bluebirdoct1962
thomasblue wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:thomasblue wrote:boyo1927 wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:Sunday’s team?
Smithes
Tutu. Morrison. Nelson. Cunningham
Pack. Bacuna
Ojo. Wilson. Hoillett
Moore
Yeah can see thos line up
I can see that line up aswell which will mean more of the same poor football.
He now has the players to play attractive attacking football so no excuses for poor long ball shite
Sorry mate but the way I’m reading this you’re contradicting yourself. Maybe me tho. Are you saying it’s potentially a good attacking line up that we won’t utilise because of long ball tactics?
No I'm saying that line up is very similar to what we had so far this season so the style and for won't change much . He has the opportunity to really shake it up with fresh players and styles but I doubt he will
Ok. Gotcha.
Re: How do we line-up now
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:34 pm
by Grandstand
How is Murphy are best winger? Since he has came here I cannot remember more than a handful of games when you could say he was any better than 6/10. If we want promotion you are not going to play him just to get form.
Re: How do we line-up now
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:45 pm
by Alan_in_China
Kenbird1927 wrote:Smithies
Morrinson
Benkovic
Cunningham
Tutu
Ralls
Vaulks
Hoilett
Wilson
Murphy
Moore
This is the team I would pick too. I don't want to see Benkovic on the bench, he's simply too good a player to not start with. Some in this thread have included Marlon Pack in the starting XI, we have had a good transfer window, starting Pack wouldn't reflect that. Any quick counter breaks started from the likes of Benkovic and Tutu, in particular, will soon be nullified when the ball reaches Pack's feet, he slows everything down.
Re: How do we line-up now
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:00 pm
by bluebirdoct1962
Alan_in_China wrote:Kenbird1927 wrote:Smithies
Morrinson
Benkovic
Cunningham
Tutu
Ralls
Vaulks
Hoilett
Wilson
Murphy
Moore
This is the team I would pick too. I don't want to see Benkovic on the bench, he's simply too good a player to not start with. Some in this thread have included Marlon Pack in the starting XI, we have had a good transfer window, starting Pack wouldn't reflect that. Any quick counter breaks started from the likes of Benkovic and Tutu, in particular, will soon be nullified when the ball reaches Pack's feet, he slows everything down.
He’s been possibly our best player over last 2-3 games mate.
Re: How do we line-up now
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:31 pm
by Robbiebluebird
Providing everyone is fit.
Smithies
Tutu
Morrison
New CB whatever is name is
Bennett
Ralls
Pack
Wilson
Tonkin
Murphy
Moore
Bench
New keeper
Nelson
Bemba
Glatzwl
Ojo
Hoilet
Bacuna
Re: How do we line-up now
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:34 pm
by Llantwit Blue
FAO Grandstand think your being kind saying Murphy has had 4/5 good games I haven’t missed a game since he joined us and I can’t remember seeing one yes couple of good finishes but you don’t get much these days for 11Million
Re: How do we line-up now
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:52 pm
by bluebirdoct1962
Llantwit Blue wrote:FAO Grandstand think your being kind saying Murphy has had 4/5 good games I haven’t missed a game since he joined us and I can’t remember seeing one yes couple of good finishes but you don’t get much these days for 11Million
Good v Newcastle in first home game in prem but can’t think of one other game that he stood out.
Re: How do we line-up now
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:53 pm
by thomasblue
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:Llantwit Blue wrote:FAO Grandstand think your being kind saying Murphy has had 4/5 good games I haven’t missed a game since he joined us and I can’t remember seeing one yes couple of good finishes but you don’t get much these days for 11Million
Good v Newcastle in first home game in prem but can’t think of one other game that he stood out.
So is it the fact hes just not very good or is it that the style of this team has not suited him ?
I would say the latter because he has shown glimpses of the quality he has but its just not consistent enough
Maybe now we are playing a bit more football on the ground he will improve.
Long ball chasing and defensive duties are obvious not ideal for him .
Re: How do we line-up now
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:17 pm
by HarriRhys22
thomasblue wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:Llantwit Blue wrote:FAO Grandstand think your being kind saying Murphy has had 4/5 good games I haven’t missed a game since he joined us and I can’t remember seeing one yes couple of good finishes but you don’t get much these days for 11Million
Good v Newcastle in first home game in prem but can’t think of one other game that he stood out.
So is it the fact hes just not very good or is it that the style of this team has not suited him ?
I would say the latter because he has shown glimpses of the quality he has but its just not consistent enough
Maybe now we are playing a bit more football on the ground he will improve.
Long ball chasing and defensive duties are obvious not ideal for him .
11goals in 58 games for us shows he’s a much better player than many of his critics believe. He is a confidence player and desperately needs a run of games in the team!
Will the new signings play tomorrow ?
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:55 pm
by Moff.
Do you think Wilson and benkovic will start tomorrow ?
What’s your line up ?
Smithies
Tutu
Morrison
Nelson (I feel it may take a week or two for benkovic to settle in training)
Bennett
Bacuna
Pack
Wilson
Hoilett
Moore
Murphy
Re: How do we line-up now
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:52 pm
by phildavies
Smithies
Tutu
Mozza
Benkovic
Bennett
Hoilett
Ralls
Bacuna/Vaulks
Wilson
Tomlin
Moore
(Why everyone has Murphy to start I have no idea our 4th choice winger)
Team Tomorrow
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:15 pm
by Einstein
If they're all cleared
Smithies
Tutu Morrison Benkovic Cunningham
Ojo Pack Bacuna Hoillet
Wilson
Moore
Re: How do we line-up now
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:24 am
by worcester_ccfc
First, I think you have to look at those who will always start when they are fully fit.
I think those that fall into that category are Smithies, Morrison, Bennett, Ralls, Wilson, Tomlin and Moore.
So with the four remaining places I would go with the below.
I strongly believe that Curtis Nelson will be used as a right back going forward.
When everyone is fully fit:
Smithies
Nelson
Morrison
Benkovic
Bennett
Ralls
Pack
Tomlin
Murphy
Wilson
Moore
Re: How do we line-up now
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:28 am
by Sven
worcester_ccfc wrote:First, I think you have to look at those who will always start when they are fully fit.
I think those that fall into that category are Smithies, Morrison, Bennett, Ralls, Wilson, Tomlin and Moore.
So with the four remaining places I would go with the below.
I strongly believe that Curtis Nelson will be used as a right back going forward.
When everyone is fully fit:
Smithies
Nelson
Morrison
Benkovic
Bennett
Ralls
Pack
Tomlin
Murphy
Wilson
Moore
This would be my choice too! I'd like to see Nelson tried at full back
Re: How do we line-up now
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:14 am
by Igovernor
Sven wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:First, I think you have to look at those who will always start when they are fully fit.
I think those that fall into that category are Smithies, Morrison, Bennett, Ralls, Wilson, Tomlin and Moore.
So with the four remaining places I would go with the below.
I strongly believe that Curtis Nelson will be used as a right back going forward.
When everyone is fully fit:
Smithies
Nelson
Morrison
Benkovic
Bennett
Ralls
Pack
Tomlin
Murphy
Wilson
Moore
This would be my choice too! I'd like to see Nelson tried at full back
Chris, I cannot see Tomlin and Wilson starting together, but as a first game today for the new players , my team would be
Smithies
Bennett Nelson morrison Tutu
Baccuna vaulks or Pack or ralls
Wilson
Ojo Murphy or Hoilett
Moore
Re: How do we line-up now
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:38 am
by bluebirdoct1962
Sven wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:First, I think you have to look at those who will always start when they are fully fit.
I think those that fall into that category are Smithies, Morrison, Bennett, Ralls, Wilson, Tomlin and Moore.
So with the four remaining places I would go with the below.
I strongly believe that Curtis Nelson will be used as a right back going forward.
When everyone is fully fit:
Smithies
Nelson
Morrison
Benkovic
Bennett
Ralls
Pack
Tomlin
Murphy
Wilson
Moore
This would be my choice too! I'd like to see Nelson tried at full back
Surely you wouldn’t drop the Arsenal lad Chris?