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Momentum and corbyn

Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:33 am

please set up your own party and take all the regressives with you,

labour may win again if these far left morons go.

ash im a commie sakar
all the guardian staff and readers of that piece of poison

Re: Momentum and corbyn

Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:56 am

If you remove the lefties and the fluffies, there's not much left. They're going nowhere under Starmer as he's a ditherer unsure of his role. You could argue that all of them supported the disgraced Corbyn, and are now complicit.

Re: Momentum and corbyn

Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:44 am

rumpo kid wrote:If you remove the lefties and the fluffies, there's not much left. They're going nowhere under Starmer as he's a ditherer unsure of his role. You could argue that all of them supported the disgraced Corbyn, and are now complicit.


I am on the left and party member labour , the traditional left have been sidelined by these horrible people,
who love Corbyn who hates Britain and its people.

Re: Momentum and corbyn

Fri Oct 30, 2020 12:06 pm

I said on another post can't believe people got taken in by Corbyn and couldn't see him for what he really is ,it always baffles me how people can live in this country and continually want to mess it up ,and give all our traditions away etc,if the far lefties hate it that much and love Europe like they say they do there quite free to move ,"oh wait"they won't do that it's to easy here for thrm

Re: Momentum and corbyn

Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:12 pm

robjohn wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:If you remove the lefties and the fluffies, there's not much left. They're going nowhere under Starmer as he's a ditherer unsure of his role. You could argue that all of them supported the disgraced Corbyn, and are now complicit.


I am on the left and party member labour , the traditional left have been sidelined by these horrible people,
who love Corbyn who hates Britain and its people.


Very true. Those on the traditional left (which I count myself as) would never want to stay in the European Union. The working class were the ones who suffered most by mass immigration from Europe.

Wages, housing, schools and medical services were all badly affected because so many came here in such a short time. Instead of cherry picking the ones we really needed (Doctors, Nurses etc.) the UK simply opened it's doors to anyone whether they were productive or not.

I actually believe Sir Keir Starmer has made a good start. I left the Labour Party over two issues. Anti-Semitism and BREXIT. It seems that Anti-Semitism is being addressed. What I need now is to see Labour change it's stance on membership of the EU and accept that BREXIT is a reality. If that happens I will come back to the fold and I believe millions will do the same.

Re: Momentum and corbyn

Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:33 pm

ion wrote:I said on another post can't believe people got taken in by Corbyn and couldn't see him for what he really is ,it always baffles me how people can live in this country and continually want to mess it up ,and give all our traditions away etc,if the far lefties hate it that much and love Europe like they say they do there quite free to move ,"oh wait"they won't do that it's to easy here for thrm


I'm sure that most people could see what Corbyn stood for. The problem was Jeremy Corbyn couldn't see what he stood for. He slept walked into becoming an anti-Semite due to his wrapped thinking of a World Capitalist Jewish conspiracy and hatred of Israel over it's treatment of Palestinians.

It is quite legitimate to criticise Israel for it's treatment of Palestinians but it is not right to blame anyone who is Jewish for the policies of that Country. Again you can offer an alternative to Capitalism but it is wrong to blame Jews for a conspiracy to keep it going. There are many working class Jews all over the world for a start.

The man has a blind spot on this issue but that is not his only blind spot. He clearly hates the UK (always sided with Russia Iran etc. against the UK) but wanted the population of the UK to vote him in as Prime Minister :?

Thankfully he was destroyed at the last General Election but the challenge now is to rebuild the Labour Party.

Re: Momentum and corbyn

Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:37 pm

Feel a bit sorry for Starmer as his troubles are only just starting, which is a distraction from Labours role in opposition. Always thought Corbyn and his supporters hated the UK, or that’s the impression. He was never going to be elected, but the left crowd would bare that to the detriment of the Party(and Politics). It’s rather strange..

Re: Momentum and corbyn

Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:00 pm

I have voted labour in the past ,but since Corbyn there is no chance ,he has totally ruined the labour party ,I have posted on here a lot of political posts but mainly out of frustration at how a lot of them have no loyalty to there own country, perhaps it's just me that I think you should want the best for own country

Re: Momentum and corbyn

Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:26 pm

ion wrote:I have voted labour in the past ,but since Corbyn there is no chance ,he has totally ruined the labour party ,I have posted on here a lot of political posts but mainly out of frustration at how a lot of them have no loyalty to there own country, perhaps it's just me that I think you should want the best for own country



the majority want the best mate and are proud... he only got the votes he did out of loyalty to the party and local MPs most labour voters i know voted through gritted teeth last time and wouldnt pi55 on Corbyn and his multiple mental disorder anti everything loons if they were dying of thirst in the desert...

Re: Momentum and corbyn

Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:53 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
robjohn wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:If you remove the lefties and the fluffies, there's not much left. They're going nowhere under Starmer as he's a ditherer unsure of his role. You could argue that all of them supported the disgraced Corbyn, and are now complicit.


I am on the left and party member labour , the traditional left have been sidelined by these horrible people,
who love Corbyn who hates Britain and its people.


Very true. Those on the traditional left (which I count myself as) would never want to stay in the European Union. The working class were the ones who suffered most by mass immigration from Europe.

Wages, housing, schools and medical services were all badly affected because so many came here in such a short time. Instead of cherry picking the ones we really needed (Doctors, Nurses etc.) the UK simply opened it's doors to anyone whether they were productive or not.

I actually believe Sir Keir Starmer has made a good start. I left the Labour Party over two issues. Anti-Semitism and BREXIT. It seems that Anti-Semitism is being addressed. What I need now is to see Labour change it's stance on membership of the EU and accept that BREXIT is a reality. If that happens I will come back to the fold and I believe millions will do the same.



tbh mate its not just you that needs it, the country does... a one party state is not healthy .

Re: Momentum and corbyn

Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:20 pm

Corbyn made a for his own back by bring old members back to the Labour party. He then couldn't get rid of them without losing control of the party. The socialist wing if the party is already up in arms over their dear leader.

The issue is I still don't think we'll see a sensible Labour return. They will still advocate for policy that sound good but have never been shown to work. Been reading a few books by Thomas Sowell recently. Amazing how long these policy have been pushed, failed, and doubled down on.

Re: Momentum and corbyn

Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:40 am

Robbiebluebird wrote:Corbyn made a for his own back by bring old members back to the Labour party. He then couldn't get rid of them without losing control of the party. The socialist wing if the party is already up in arms over their dear leader.

The issue is I still don't think we'll see a sensible Labour return. They will still advocate for policy that sound good but have never been shown to work. Been reading a few books by Thomas Sowell recently. Amazing how long these policy have been pushed, failed, and doubled down on.


thomas sowell is a briiliant man , also check out james Lindsay and helen pluckrose on whats happened at university education to see why we are in the mess we are in , theres a great video on youtube called the trojan horse,
its amazing how education has been corrupted by the mental far left

Re: Momentum and corbyn

Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:53 am

I voted for an campaigned for The Labour Party in December, as I have done in the elections before that.

I did so because I believed in the party, not the leader.

The biggest thing I heard on the doorstep was usual Labour voters wouldn't vote for the party because of one thing - Corbyn. Others also mentioned Brexit, but the main factor was the leader.

His supporters will paint him out to be a saint, as they always do, but the correct thing to do was to suspend him.

Keir Starmer is the best leader the party have had since we were in Government - admittedly that's not saying much.

Hard to say how the next election will go as it is so far off, and I'll be amazed if the Tories let Boris Johnson be PM for that long - I expect they'll have another leader by then.

Re: Momentum and corbyn

Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:48 am

Momentum and Corbyn were the ruin of Labour in last election as unelectable If the issue of Corbyn splits the labour party then good the party will only be better for it moving forward

Re: Momentum and corbyn

Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:04 am

I have voted Labour in the past but have grown to despise them. They no longer care about working class people, in fact as Thornburry and Gordon Brown showed they actively hate them. All they do now is push division, young v old, north v south, black v white. Aided and abetted by a complient broadcast media and an absurdly Marxist academia.

Re: Momentum and corbyn

Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:46 am

Well, everyone knows it Jock, and thats why they wont grace Downing St for a very long time. I used to vote Labour, but they've gone completely down the wrong road(s).

Re: Momentum and corbyn

Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:49 am

On the day after the appaling beheading of a woman and attempted beheading of a man in a church in France the Guardian newspaper went with this cartoon :-

There is something very disturbing of the mindset of the hard left , socialist purest types that they have to come out with this

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Any Govt needs an opposition but in Corbyns case that was filled by the SNP in Scotland and an assortment of idiots like Dianne Abbott, Dawn Butler, Apsana Begum, Barry Gardiner, Fiona Onasanya , Emily Thornberry, Clive Lewis (very strange character) , Richard Burgon (even stranger character)the list is an endless array of talentless of ineptness.

Less we forget Corbyn made Shami Chakrabarti a Dame then asked her to investigate Anti Semitism - her report was ignored - not that she did much scrutiny into the man who just made her a Dame.

The one person labour have to blame in all this mess is Margaret Beckett - it was she who gifted Corbyn her vote to allow him to stand for Leadership as she wanted to see a true Socialist on the list of candidates.
Well you got your wish there love and we can all see how it worked out.

If ever you realised maybe there is need for a change in Welsh politics and having Labour in power for the last 22 years - then maybye the Corbyn experiment should be a salutary lesson for everyone.

Re: Momentum and corbyn

Sat Oct 31, 2020 10:55 am

robjohn wrote:
Robbiebluebird wrote:Corbyn made a for his own back by bring old members back to the Labour party. He then couldn't get rid of them without losing control of the party. The socialist wing if the party is already up in arms over their dear leader.

The issue is I still don't think we'll see a sensible Labour return. They will still advocate for policy that sound good but have never been shown to work. Been reading a few books by Thomas Sowell recently. Amazing how long these policy have been pushed, failed, and doubled down on.


thomas sowell is a briiliant man , also check out james Lindsay and helen pluckrose on whats happened at university education to see why we are in the mess we are in , theres a great video on youtube called the trojan horse,
its amazing how education has been corrupted by the mental far left



Thanks for the recommendation. Will certainly check them out :thumbright:

Re: Momentum and corbyn

Sat Oct 31, 2020 2:39 pm

In the last four years I have been called a racist by four people I barely know. Reason - I voted to leave the EU. they were all paid up members, canvassers you name it. When I challenged them they trotted out the usual puerile tripe anti immigrant blah blah blah so I posed them a question what is a "racist". Apparently is is anyone who challenges their world view. I classify these individuals as Nazi's. Quite ironic really